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psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug
Good news! New guy at work is a keen photographer, shoots with a 5D Mk II and wants to go out on shoots with me.

Bad news! He showed me his flickr stream and it's full of garish HDR and selective colour bullshit.

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some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

psylent posted:

Good news! New guy at work is a keen photographer, shoots with a 5D Mk II and wants to go out on shoots with me.

Bad news! He showed me his flickr stream and it's full of garish HDR and selective colour bullshit.

Your project is to convert this man into a reasonable human being. Consider it a challenge.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

We'll pay Ken Rockwell 20 bux to post how the 7D is a better HDR camera than the 5DmkII so you can get a nice trade from him

onezero
Nov 20, 2003

veritas vos liberabit

Martytoof posted:

Your project is to convert this man into a reasonable human being. Consider it a challenge.

If he's successful, I'm fairly sure he can write off some taxes under "charitable donations to the eyes of society at large".

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?
Can you tell how far down the HDR path he's gone? Is he an old school guy who used to shoot good stuff, then started tone mapping to see what the hubbub is? I've run into a couple of people like that. All it takes is time and they go back to making good stuff.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
I bought a roll of HP5+ from my local photo store and right after he checked it out, I realized that I'd forgotten to say I wanted 120. He took a look at the reciept and gave me two rolls of 120 instead :woop:

just another victory on my path to godhood

psylent
Nov 29, 2000

Pillbug

AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

Can you tell how far down the HDR path he's gone? Is he an old school guy who used to shoot good stuff, then started tone mapping to see what the hubbub is? I've run into a couple of people like that. All it takes is time and they go back to making good stuff.
Nah, he talks about HDR with a mad glint in his eye. He thinks it looks "awesome" and "loves how much the colours pop".

To be totally fair, he does have some nice stuff, but his love for HDR scared me a little.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
A steady regimen of light ridicule and passive aggressive comments should take care of that in no time.

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007

jeisai posted:

It's cool being a direct descendant of an unmarried celibate man. I mean, that's pretty awesome, right?

Celibacy is really misunderstood and underrated. It doesn't mean no sex, it means no heirs. You can still gently caress like Charlie Sheen just out of sex-rehab and loaded on ice, you just can't acknowledge any progeny.

Priests took a vow of celibacy in the middle ages to prevent bishoprics and arch-diocese being passed father-to-son and church property becoming family estates (instead they were passed uncle-to-nephiew and became family estates), not to have no sex. That's why so many fat rich bishops died of syphilis related symptoms.

But most people don't realise the distinction, so you can still try it out as a non-threatening type of pick-up line.

And yet despite all that, K-Rock is still full of poo poo.

I HATE CARS
May 10, 2009

by Ozmaugh

atomicthumbs posted:

I bought a roll of HP5+ from my local photo store and right after he checked it out, I realized that I'd forgotten to say I wanted 120. He took a look at the reciept and gave me two rolls of 120 instead :woop:

just another victory on my path to godhood

Every time I get colour negatives developed at the local photo store they throw in a few rolls of film. They are literally just giving it away.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

I HATE CARS posted:

Every time I get colour negatives developed at the local photo store they throw in a few rolls of film. They are literally just giving it away.

I'll never be a god at this rate :smith:

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

psylent posted:

Nah, he talks about HDR with a mad glint in his eye. He thinks it looks "awesome" and "loves how much the colours pop".

To be totally fair, he does have some nice stuff, but his love for HDR scared me a little.

You're going shooting with him, not processing. He may have a great eye for subjects and composition, THEN gently caress it up with HDR, so as far as you're concerned, it's a no brainer. Go enjoy having someone to shoot with.

William T. Hornaday
Nov 26, 2007

Don't tap on the fucking glass!
I swear to god I'll cut off your fucking fingers and feed them to the otters for enrichment.

Captain Postal posted:

Celibacy is really misunderstood and underrated. It doesn't mean no sex, it means no heirs. You can still gently caress like Charlie Sheen just out of sex-rehab and loaded on ice, you just can't acknowledge any progeny.

Priests took a vow of celibacy in the middle ages to prevent bishoprics and arch-diocese being passed father-to-son and church property becoming family estates (instead they were passed uncle-to-nephiew and became family estates), not to have no sex. That's why so many fat rich bishops died of syphilis related symptoms.

The overwhelming definition is 'no sex,' especially in Tesla's case. And Christianity didn't invent celibacy, it's been a part of other religions long before the middle ages.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
It's certainly been a big part of my life, well before my middle ages. :smith:

Captain Postal
Sep 16, 2007

William T. Hornaday posted:

The overwhelming definition is 'no sex,' especially in Tesla's case. And Christianity didn't invent celibacy, it's been a part of other religions long before the middle ages.

Vow of celibacy = not having an heir. It's just a fun fact. Tesla still didn't get any and k-rock is still a lying tool.

Spectracide
May 27, 2004
IT'S ARGH, BABY!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/01/flickr-deletes-photos_n_817218.html
Well, that sucks.

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01

I think this is more common than people think. It seems people have accounts deleted for no real reason (or warning).

anabatica
Feb 17, 2006

by angerbutt
What should/could flickr do about it, though? I'm sure there's something in their TOS about them not being responsible for loss of data.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

I wish flickr would devote a fraction of the resources that they spend of randomly deleting legitimate users for "questionable content" to actually removing creepy fetish groups and stuff that is just actually pornography.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Paragon8 posted:

I wish flickr would devote a fraction of the resources that they spend of randomly deleting legitimate users for "questionable content" to actually removing creepy fetish groups and stuff that is just actually pornography.

They couldn't employ enough people to do this.

Studebaker Hawk
May 22, 2004


I use http://www.backupify.com/ as I got in free during their beta

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Anyone else hooked on old lenses? I don't have much money to spend on glass, so the bang/buck ratio of vintage lenses suits me just fine.

Got this in the post today, 135mm f2.8 Super Albinar for Minolta MD.



Looks almost new, can't find any marks of use at all. (taken with another old lens, Minolta Rokkor-X 50mm f2.0)



The weather outside was too poor for trying it out on the stuff I actually want to use it for, so I aimed it at a dog. Useless lighting (and rollercoaster Lightroom curves) aside, I think it seems like a great lens. Kudos to dog for sitting still for 1/3 second. It goes slightly soft at 2.8 (this is at 5.6) but not by much.

Best part? It cost $20.


edit: when trying at properly fast shutter speeds, f2.8 actually looks tack sharp. Yay!

Ola fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Feb 2, 2011

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01

anabatica posted:

What should/could flickr do about it, though? I'm sure there's something in their TOS about them not being responsible for loss of data.

They could simply disable an account, not let the photos be viewable and send the owner a notice with what the issue is. The owner could then decide if they want to remedy the issue or have their account removed. I can't think of any other big sites that simply delete an account with no way of restoring it.

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?
Yahoo's so messed up they probably can't spare the extra server space. Who uses Flickr for backup? Seems like a bad idea to begin with.

subx
Jan 12, 2003

If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

Yahoo's so messed up they probably can't spare the extra server space. Who uses Flickr for backup? Seems like a bad idea to begin with.

Yea, I'm sorry, but if you use Flickr as your only backup solution you deserve to lose all your photos.

It sucks that he lost his stuff, but is it really that hard to reupload? Honestly this just gave him about 9234928342 times more publicity than his actual photos ever did.

King Hotpants
Apr 11, 2005

Clint.
Fucking.
Eastwood.

AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

Yahoo's so messed up they probably can't spare the extra server space. Who uses Flickr for backup? Seems like a bad idea to begin with.

That's not the point.

He's not sad that he lost his photos; he had backups. He's sad that he lost his links, contacts, comments, and all the other metadata that he had no way to backup and no way to restore now that it's gone. It's not about the actual files.

subx
Jan 12, 2003

If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

King Hotpants posted:

That's not the point.

He's not sad that he lost his photos; he had backups. He's sad that he lost his links, contacts, comments, and all the other metadata that he had no way to backup and no way to restore now that it's gone. It's not about the actual files.

I actually find it pretty odd that Flickr doesn't have backups of all this stuff anyways. Seriously, only one instance of peoples profile?

Whitezombi
Apr 26, 2006

With these Zombie Eyes he rendered her powerless - With this Zombie Grip he made her perform his every desire!

subx posted:

Yea, I'm sorry, but if you use Flickr as your only backup solution you deserve to lose all your photos.

It sucks that he lost his stuff, but is it really that hard to reupload? Honestly this just gave him about 9234928342 times more publicity than his actual photos ever did.

Re-upload 5 years worth of stuff? I'd tell Flickr to gently caress off and demand a refund. If anyone uses Flickr as backup they are pretty stupid.

King Hotpants
Apr 11, 2005

Clint.
Fucking.
Eastwood.

subx posted:

I actually find it pretty odd that Flickr doesn't have backups of all this stuff anyways. Seriously, only one instance of peoples profile?

I'm not defending flickr; not having an emergency oh-poo poo copy of this stuff is insanity. Not having a step between "everything's fine" and "nuked" is insanity. I keep multiple backups of all my awful photography and so did the guy in question; he's just mad about his comments/links/contacts/etc. It seems like no one reads that part of the story.

The account in question belonged to an IT guy, so that's part of why he's so critical of flickr's practices about this stuff--because seriously, in a business, who the gently caress would do that? Furthermore, why?

AIIAZNSK8ER
Dec 8, 2008


Where is your 24-70?
Maybe it's because I don't use flickr like that. I'm not particularly attached to the comments and stats. They're cool and all, but I would not miss them. It's $30 a year for unlimited uploads. Flickr is definitely messed up for doing that to him. Now if smugmug did something like that with my client galleries, I would be knocking down their doors.

Update: they've offered him 25 years of Flickr pro and are trying to restore everything. I can't even fathom what the web will look like in 10 years, let alone 25.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

fundamentally flickr is a free service so you can't expect the world from them - if it was smugmug then yes be apocalyptic.

Flickr is really hosed up in the way that it deals with legitimate photographers. Fine art photographers get hosed over so much with nudity stuff - yet there are huge groups of cum swilling gangbang wives and foot fetish stuff all over the site.

I'd imagine that it's more to do with their report first moderation style - easier for a fussy 40 y/o to report a figure study by a good photographer than for someone to stumble on a "sexy wife" photoset and report it.

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.
The last time I got reported I don't even KNOW what I did. They told me to mark all the shots that needed to be moderate, but as far as I could tell I already had. So they told me to do it again, and I did. And then they unlocked it. Thanks...?

Dread Head
Aug 1, 2005

0-#01

McMadCow posted:

The last time I got reported I don't even KNOW what I did. They told me to mark all the shots that needed to be moderate, but as far as I could tell I already had. So they told me to do it again, and I did. And then they unlocked it. Thanks...?

This is the problem. You don't get told why or what is wrong they just do something (such as delete an account) then you go to log in and nothing. You would think it would go into a review status or something where you could be given an option of changing settings or removing photos instead of deleting everything without your knowledge.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

Maybe it's because I don't use flickr like that. I'm not particularly attached to the comments and stats. They're cool and all, but I would not miss them. It's $30 a year for unlimited uploads. Flickr is definitely messed up for doing that to him. Now if smugmug did something like that with my client galleries, I would be knocking down their doors.

Update: they've offered him 25 years of Flickr pro and are trying to restore everything. I can't even fathom what the web will look like in 10 years, let alone 25.

All those glitter comments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain :smith:

beeker
Dec 17, 2006

meep meep!
Hilarious / pathetic: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/med/2182490000.html

burzum karaoke
May 30, 2003

beeker posted:

Hilarious / pathetic: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/med/2182490000.html

One slave, please.

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

beeker posted:

Hilarious / pathetic: http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/med/2182490000.html


Wow, that listing just gets worse and worse! They haven't the first clue how anything works at ALL.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

McMadCow posted:

Wow, that listing just gets worse and worse! They haven't the first clue how anything works at ALL.

I hate the job market so much. It's like this everywhere right now. Everyone is all "dude the economy is totally better, there's lots of jobs!"

Yeah loving right. Every single posting demands a certified genius who is willing to work for peanuts.

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


http://www.eic.net/ is the firm in that listing.

Got this (all I wanted was a response to find out who put up the listing)

quote:

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Dread Head posted:

They could simply disable an account, not let the photos be viewable and send the owner a notice with what the issue is.
Basically like every other service provider ever? Surely you jest?

subx posted:

Yea, I'm sorry, but if you use Flickr as your only backup solution you deserve to lose all your photos.
Sure.

subx posted:

It sucks that he lost his stuff, but is it really that hard to reupload?
I'm guessing it's more about the social stuff than the material.

Whitezombi posted:

Re-upload 5 years worth of stuff? I'd tell Flickr to gently caress off and demand a refund.
What's funny if that if this happened to me I'd have everything back online as fast as my home link can handle it.

AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

Now if smugmug did something like that with my client galleries, I would be knocking down their doors.
They don't do that. Amazon payments screwed up when I changed CC's and smug just put all my stuff back online when they got their money.

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