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SamuraiFoochs posted:Has any wrestler ever said a bad word about Undertaker? I know he's basically universally loved, but has ANYBODY ever spoken ill of him? London, Kendrick, Steiner, Sheik, anybody? Brock lesnar hasn't anything good to say about Taker, and vice versa.
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savinhill posted:Plus it isn't like DDP was some guy who didn't get over once he was pushed and kept getting pushed at the expense of other guys. Exactly - they were just having him beat jobbers every week and he was getting insane reactions from the crowd, so his buddies in the nWo lobbied for him to feud with them. As for whether or not he's respected, I think a lot of the boys find him really annoying because he's so positive and most wrestlers are cynical jock rednecks. That he planned his matches out beforehand doesn't really matter; Randy Savage did the same thing.
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CombineThresher posted:Exactly - they were just having him beat jobbers every week and he was getting insane reactions from the crowd, so his buddies in the nWo lobbied for him to feud with them. Isn't there a story were Randy had a ring set up in his backyard for a match against Ricky Steamboat and practiced the match for 3 months prior to Wrestlemania 3?
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oldpainless posted:Brock lesnar hasn't anything good to say about Taker, and vice versa. yeah, this is wrong.
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Nystral posted:Isn't there a story were Randy had a ring set up in his backyard for a match against Ricky Steamboat and practiced the match for 3 months prior to Wrestlemania 3? I want to say this is true but Steamboat wasn't even with Savage at any point. Savage is just fooling around and elbow dropping some stuffed clothes with a football for a head. MisterGBH fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 3, 2011 |
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Burrito posted:Two dead people and a Texan?! A murderer, a zombie and a Fox Business analyst walk into a bar. Which one do you immediately hate and mistust the most?
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Feb 3, 2011 18:37
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Lone Rogue posted:A murderer, a zombie and a Fox Business analyst walk into a bar. Kid Kash
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MisterGBH posted:Savage is just fooling around and elbow dropping some stuffed clothes with a football for a head. I like to think this is what Savage is doing now, since he's stupid rich and doesn't have to work.
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Lone Rogue posted:A murderer, a zombie and a Fox Business analyst walk into a bar. Aw, jeez, just more of your biophiliac bias against the living dead.
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Feb 3, 2011 18:51
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CombineThresher posted:I like to think this is what Savage is doing now, since he's stupid rich and doesn't have to work. I take it Macho was one of the few big stars to actually hold onto their money from that era? That new deal for the action figures and stuff probably doesn't hurt either. It's just surprising that Randy Savage of all people was good with money.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I take it Macho was one of the few big stars to actually hold onto their money from that era? That new deal for the action figures and stuff probably doesn't hurt either. It's just surprising that Randy Savage of all people was good with money. Macho Man wanted to buy WCW and was willing to do it at a price bigger than what Vince McMahon purchased it for, but he never got a chance.
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yeah but he's still crazy. I loving LOVE the pumping iron "oh, didn't see ya there!!!" turnarounds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzFC0RcefS8 "HHH, I'm gonna abduct your wife, rape her and potentially keep her locked in my basement!" I know this is super old. It just never stops being really loving funny is all. Sugar Blaster fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Feb 3, 2011 |
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I take it Macho was one of the few big stars to actually hold onto their money from that era? That new deal for the action figures and stuff probably doesn't hurt either. It's just surprising that Randy Savage of all people was good with money. SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM!
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The best thing about the Slim Jim ads is how Vince was loving LIVID with Macho Man for scoring an independent endorsement contract.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I take it Macho was one of the few big stars to actually hold onto their money from that era? That new deal for the action figures and stuff probably doesn't hurt either. It's just surprising that Randy Savage of all people was good with money. Macho made a fortune in WWF, and even more of one in WCW (enough to potentially buy it, as Lone Rogue said) and invested his money wisely enough that he can just live off that, plus his Slim Jim money and voice acting work. edit: Tito Santana was also very smart with his money, putting away towards his retirement and making sure his family was taken care of while he was on the road. He still wrestles indies, but only when he wants to, and was so respected in the locker room for not being an idiot with his money that doing so became known as "the Tito thing." CombineThresher fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Feb 3, 2011 |
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CombineThresher posted:edit: Tito Santana was also very smart with his money, putting away towards his retirement and making sure his family was taken care of while he was on the road. He still wrestles indies, but only when he wants to, and was so respected in the locker room for not being an idiot with his money that doing so became known as "the Tito thing." And he was such a professional and reliable worker, Vince had said he "wished he had a whole locker room of Tito Santanas".
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Lone Rogue posted:Macho Man wanted to buy WCW and was willing to do it at a price bigger than what Vince McMahon purchased it for, but he never got a chance. A promotion run by Macho Man would have been batshit crazy but I would have watched every week.
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Freddy Blassie wrote in his book about how Volkoff sent just about every dime he made back to his family, to the point where he'd usually have a meal on a little hotplate he brought with him. And Freddy bought him a new sweatshirt for Christmas, because his other one was getting so worn and ratty; Volkoff was so touched he nearly cried.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:A promotion run by Macho Man would have been batshit crazy but I would have watched every week. I bet it would actually be very normal and we'd see matches where two lugs (Like, oh, Wall and Sid) would have a great match because Macho forced them to plan it move for move. I think Macho would have done a great job. Writer Cath posted:Freddy Blassie wrote in his book about how Volkoff sent just about every dime he made back to his family, to the point where he'd usually have a meal on a little hotplate he brought with him. And Freddy bought him a new sweatshirt for Christmas, because his other one was getting so worn and ratty; Volkoff was so touched he nearly cried. I hate stories where Freddie is a nice guy. Tell me he bit him with fangs after Volkoff put it on.
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Saw this news bit about ratings in Mexico:quote:- Here are the latest wrestling ratings from Mexico… Do they use the same ratings system that usually gives WWE a 3.something average every week in America? If so, drat.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Saw this news bit about ratings in Mexico: Del Rio is a ratings machine 
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Saw this news bit about ratings in Mexico: cmll and aaa are in a major downswing while wwe's production values & cool stars are kind of taking over in mexico right now. wrestling has always been hugely popular there so it's no surprise that the new kid in town that looks mega cool is getting those ratings.
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The Shaman of Cum posted:cmll and aaa are in a major downswing while wwe's production values & cool stars are kind of taking over in mexico right now. wrestling has always been hugely popular there so it's no surprise that the new kid in town that looks mega cool is getting those ratings. Fair enough - I just didn't know if they used the same per household ratings system or if the 'exchange rate' on the number of viewers were different. Kinda like how a platinum record is 1 million in some countries and 500k in others or whatever. If it is the same and they are doubling their ratings in other countries that's pretty impressive. But like you said Mexico is a special case due to wrestling always being popular there.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Fair enough - I just didn't know if they used the same per household ratings system or if the 'exchange rate' on the number of viewers were different. Kinda like how a platinum record is 1 million in some countries and 500k in others or whatever. i'd imagine they'd have a smaller sample size because of the difference in population.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Fair enough - I just didn't know if they used the same per household ratings system or if the 'exchange rate' on the number of viewers were different. Kinda like how a platinum record is 1 million in some countries and 500k in others or whatever. i'm not sure either to be honest. but i'd assume it goes by population so an 8.2 in mexico is a shitload less viewers than an 8.2 in usa
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Davros1 posted:And he was such a professional and reliable worker, Vince had said he "wished he had a whole locker room of Tito Santanas". I've actually become quite a fan of Tito after digging into my stack of old 80's WWF tapes a while ago - he had tremendous fire and could always rally the crowd, and was consistently good in the ring. He had a 20-minute draw with Paul Orndorff in 1984 that still holds up as an awesome match today.
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I loved the angle where Fake Undertaker battled Real Undertaker back in the cartoon era - and I know there have been a few examples of wrestlers either coming in contact with fake versions of themselves (Sting) or fake versions of others (Dean Malenko under a Cyclope mask) but those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. I don't know why but it's always hilarious and entertaining to me. Anyone else remember examples of this happening in the major promotions? I vaguely remember there being a fake Kane at some point in WWE but my WWE history knowledge during the attitude/early to mid 2000's era is not good. Was there an actual Fake Kane vs Real Kane match or was that just for the Katie Vick nonsense? Oh, and Fake Diesel and Razor Ramon, of course.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I loved the angle where Fake Undertaker battled Real Undertaker back in the cartoon era - and I know there have been a few examples of wrestlers either coming in contact with fake versions of themselves (Sting) or fake versions of others (Dean Malenko under a Cyclope mask) but those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. I don't know why but it's always hilarious and entertaining to me. Anyone else remember examples of this happening in the major promotions? fake kane was actually kinda recent, back in 2007 i believe, and was played by luke gallows/festus. the angle never really went anywhere, one day they had a match and kane kicked fake kane out the back of the building, and we never heard from him again.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I loved the angle where Fake Undertaker battled Real Undertaker back in the cartoon era - and I know there have been a few examples of wrestlers either coming in contact with fake versions of themselves (Sting) or fake versions of others (Dean Malenko under a Cyclope mask) but those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. I don't know why but it's always hilarious and entertaining to me. Anyone else remember examples of this happening in the major promotions? In 2006 they brought in Luke Gallows/Festus as Impostor Kane. This would have been all right if they remembered to wet down Fake Kane's hair. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqAOKUEHQjM Kane eventually took his mask back and literally kicked Fake Kane out of the back door of the arena without revealing his identity. This was never further explained or elaborated on.
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I think the Malenko as Ciclope is definitely the best, especially because it has the Jericho cruiserweight introductions. Also it's really nuts how over some of the small undercard guys in WCW were. The crowd went loving apeshit for Malenko revealing himself. It just seems so alien in today's world: Not just an undercard guy, but a loving cruiserweight with a gimmick of "ice cold asskicker" being mega over with the crowd.
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Captain Charisma posted:I think the Malenko as Ciclope is definitely the best, especially because it has the Jericho cruiserweight introductions. It also helps how well they'd built the feud of Jericho constantly ducking/insulting Malenko and his entire family, never giving him a chance to retaliate while also giving title shots to lesser contenders. In hindsight it's one of the best booked undercard title belt feuds of the MNW era. That reveal wasn't just a pop for "Oh hey Dean Malenko!" but also for "Oh hey Dean Malenko finally gets to kick that whiny Chris Jericho's rear end!" All of this done with Malenko pretty much never having to speak, and Jericho carrying most of the mic time; which is exactly how it should have been.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I loved the angle where Fake Undertaker battled Real Undertaker back in the cartoon era - and I know there have been a few examples of wrestlers either coming in contact with fake versions of themselves (Sting) or fake versions of others (Dean Malenko under a Cyclope mask) but those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. I don't know why but it's always hilarious and entertaining to me. Anyone else remember examples of this happening in the major promotions? There was a match where Triple H defended his European Title against Owen, but Triple H was actually Goldust in a Triple H costume - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kO2v8UMhJU And then there was a match between Goldust and Kane, but Goldust was actually Triple H in a Goldust costume - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS4ZkiV3eQ8 Rusty Shackelford fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Feb 3, 2011 |
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There was also the Goldust vs. Bluedust feud. OneThousandMonkeys posted:Kane eventually took his mask back and literally kicked Fake Kane out of the back door of the arena without revealing his identity. This was never further explained or elaborated on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHkTuDlP7l4 The whole thing was part of the promotion for See No Evil. Kane was tormented by "May 19th" which was the movie's release date and also the kayfabe date when his mom and dad were killed in a fire. Beyond the Fake Kane angle it also brought us the spectacular Big Show/Kane match, Shawn Michaels having to referee a Kane match wearing a shirt with May 19th plastered all over it and segments where Kane would hear voices that were audible to the audience, but not to other wrestlers. It's like the apex of ridiculous Kane angles. And yeah, there was a match. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26lJ14mJfec Also, like a year later, Kane started walking around with the big hook his character used in the movie which was hilarious since there was no way he was ever gonna actually gore anybody with it. Sugar Blaster fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Feb 3, 2011 |
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Holy poo poo - I've never seen Hunter Dust and that is amazing. I knew that Goldust had a habit of dressing up like other people but never that one. It's kinda sad to see how unhappy Owen looks during his entrance and while they're making fun of him on the tron though. You posted the same link twice but I think I found the Triple H as goldust: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS4ZkiV3eQ8 That one completely blew my mind. Other than the giant nose he did a really great Goldust entrance.
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Holy poo poo - I've never seen Hunter Dust and that is amazing. I knew that Goldust had a habit of dressing up like other people but never that one. It's kinda sad to see how unhappy Owen looks during his entrance and while they're making fun of him on the tron though. Sorry about that. Yeah, that's the right link - I've fixed my post.
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Undertaker disguised as Kane: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMsEF7d4PkE&t=1m45s Kane disguised as Undertaker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpVnQi2lLSY
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Man, I don't even remember that. That was awesome. Nothing they do nowadays even comes close to that kind of thing.
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Wojtek posted:Man, I don't even remember that. That was awesome. Nothing they do nowadays even comes close to that kind of thing. No doubt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HznErMk97B4
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Another one for the "people dressed as Undertaker" theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKjDwgDhOeg
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Shadalator posted:No doubt. We are not going to insult your intelligence! *Names a guy Puke, has someone pretend to gently caress a corpse, has wrestlers kiss his bare rear end, etc* The attitude era was a very important time for wrestling but they did some incredibly embarrassing poo poo on the air, haha. Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Feb 3, 2011 |
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