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peanut- posted:He's not reading "trick" to mean a flick from the foot to the head or chest then. 'Trick' to me means 'method of fashioning an intentional back pass where normally the opportunity to legally do so would not exist', not in the sense of 'flick it up to head it' (though it covers both)
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In regards to #3, if the player was literally on the ground like in the picture, I would give an indirect kick and a caution. In reality, to me, it is a judgement call and would be different in every situation it happened in. Same with #1. It depends on the body language and intent of the player and the circumstance it occurred in.
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1) Well the whole of the ball hasn't crossed the whole of the line so I guess technically it's a free-kick, but I'd just give a penalty so I don't get called 'diabolical' on motd 2) Give the goal. It would have gone in if it was a real goalpost. Also fine the league for using goalposts that are a fire hazard. Seriously who still uses wooden goalposts 3) Go home. You don't get paid enough for this kind of hassle. On the way out march up to the press gantry and punch Gary Neville in the face one last time
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SteadfastMeat posted:A Very Special YATR this week: 1. Red card the defender for denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity. Free kick on the edge of the box. 2. Might be asking for trouble allowing the goalposts to be manipulated this way, but I don't think you can give a goal here. 3. I don't think you can red-card substitutes, and yellows would be too soft for punches being thrown. Tell the managers that the offending substitutes will not be allowed on the pitch, and put their names in your match report to have them suspended. edit- misread no. 2 atomic gog fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Feb 4, 2011 |
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Feb 4, 2011 11:42
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You can red card substitutes.
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In that case, send them all off for violent conduct.
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Feb 4, 2011 11:47
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Nikolai Fuckharin posted:Want the linesman as an av here you go m8 
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cat scratch achiever posted:here you go m8 I lol'd irl but that's actually the ref's assistant (fourth official? I think)
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a beggar whose also a chooser, you say;
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cat scratch achiever posted:A greek god amongst men
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cat scratch achiever posted:needs a cock dangling in front of her face (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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1) I would say penalty. A keeper can handle the ball when it's on the line, so a foul there would be a penalty. 2) I'm stumped with this one. Don't think you can give the goal, but not sure what to do. 3) Send them off. vvvvv 
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Feb 4, 2011 12:32
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Is the first one not a penalty? If the ball is on the touchline not over it then it's in play, so surely if it's on the line of the penalty box it's in the penalty box?
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The ball isn't considered to have passed from one area of the field to another until the whole of the ball is over the line, so it's still outside the box.
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sassassin posted:The ball isn't considered to have passed from one area of the field to another until the whole of the ball is over the line, so it's still outside the box. But by that if the keeper were to pick the ball up when it was on the line it would be outside of the box
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I think he's getting at it being dependent on the direction of the ball. I've never heard of that as a rule, but it might make sense. I would say it'd be given as a penalty, though.
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JingleBells posted:But by that if the keeper were to pick the ball up when it was on the line it would be outside of the box  not if it were rolling out from inside the box
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sassassin posted:The ball isn't considered to have passed from one area of the field to another until the whole of the ball is over the line, so it's still outside the box. What makes you say this? It's my understanding that the line is part of the penalty area, in much the same way the touch/goal lines are part of the playing field.
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Jerkhammer posted:What makes you say this? It's my understanding that the line is part of the penalty area, in much the same way the touch/goal lines are part of the playing field. It's pretty much how the rule works on any part of the pitch. A ball rolling out of play isn't out of play until the ball is all the way over. Same for a goal. Most borderline decisions work on the same basis, with the ref/linesman giving the benefit of the doubt that way. A player getting hacked on the edge of the box is usually a freekick unless he's clearly all the way over. No clue how it's written in the rulebook.
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I see what you're getting at, but if an attacker is closing in on goal and the keeper dives at his feet, touching the ball with his hands when it's on the line, I think it would be legal?
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Mickolution posted:I see what you're getting at, but if an attacker is closing in on goal and the keeper dives at his feet, touching the ball with his hands when it's on the line, I think it would be legal? Legal to the extent that the ref probably wouldn't punish him for it, sure. If the keeper took the man instead of the ball he'd probably give a free kick, though (after sending the keeper off) Refs will usually go for the safer option. Lines are thin and the game moves fast. Who the gently caress knows really (please respond people who actually know not you Hackett you spaz) edit: In your example the Ref could argue that the Keeper wasn't all the way over the line when he touched the ball in my fantasy nonsense rulebook.
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A player can be totally off the pitch but touch the ball to keep it in play, it's nothing like American sports.
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The Keeper's hands, then? Who cares?
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sassassin posted:The Keeper's hands, then? I think you're somewhat missing the point of YATR
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sassassin posted:The Keeper's hands, then? It's all to do with where the ball is, rather than the player.
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If somebody commits a foul on the line, it is a penalty. It came up in a game some time in 2010. 1) Penalty and red card 2) My instinct is to play on but I'm really not sure why. I mean, play doesn't stop if the referee gets in the way of the ball because he's just part of the equipment, same goes for the post. Mention in your report that the home club needs to get better poo poo. 3) Send off the subs. Sheffield Wednesday had a player sent off after he'd been substituted a couple of years ago in the Steel City Derby. edit: changed answer to number 2 to 'play on' because I misread the question and thought the ball had gone in off the post Psybro fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Feb 4, 2011 |
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1. Penalty: The lines form part of the area (Very amused at the comments earlier about the lines changing purpose depending on which way the ball is going... WHAT?!). Also there is no 'rulebook'. Dismiss the defender for DOGSO. 2. EDIT: Oops, I misread this as the ball being deflected in! No goal as it never crossed the line etc so cannot possibly be awarded. 3. Dismiss the three substitutes for Violent Conduct. Mewcenary fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Feb 6, 2011 |
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Of course there's a rulebook? But yeah, the line counts as part of the penalty area so red card the defender and award a penalty.
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peanut- posted:Of course there's a rulebook? But yeah, the line counts as part of the penalty area so red card the defender and award a penalty.
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SteadfastMeat posted:A Very Special YATR this week: 1. red card for denying a goal scoring opportunity and a direct free kick on the line 2. award the goal 3. send off everyone involved for violent conduct
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2. Write to the FA asking them to adopt the hilarious NFHS carebear rule that allows goalposts to be padded. (If anyone wants to see what football might be like if Americans had invented it, go to this PDF and check out page 12 or page 70, but don't blame me if it gives you a headache.) Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 4, 2011 |
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1. Penalty and red card. 2. You cannot allow a goal when the ball did not enter the goal. I would probably award an indirect free kick from the spot of the foul to the attacking team and issue a yellow card for usporting behavior. 3. Send-off any and all players/coaches who struck another person. If there are no coaches left on a team and this is a youth game, abandon the game.
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1) Pelanty and a Red card, The line is part of the area and it's a clear denial of goalscoring opportunity. 2) No goal. Stop play to have the goal moved back into position, restart with a drop ball on the goal line just inside the post. 3) Send off all 6 subs. Depending on the severity of the fracas send off both managers and coaching staff, abandon game and have a cuppa.
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I'm sure I've seen padded goalposts at some point in my youth, perhaps for indoors football.
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1) On the line I'd think I'd give the free kick but it's probably a red. 2) No goal. Stop play if the ball is still in, fix the goalposts and start with a drop ball wherever the ball was when you stopped play or whatever throw in / goal kick / corner is appropriate if the ball had gone out. 3) Send them off.
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And here is Hacketts verdict:Keith Hackett posted:1) It's a penalty. On the line counts as part of the penalty area, so the decision is clear-cut. And, if you believe the defender has denied an obvious goalscoring opportunity, send him off.
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Fairly simple one this week, confusion over exactly what the error is notwithstanding.
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