AIIAZNSK8ER posted:

In that video, it looks like the kid doesn't want to go into the car. He's holding onto the car door resisting being taken away, at first I thought it was a medical transport, I guess its some kind of police?
edit: And whats with so many photographers being there? It's all very suspicious.

dakana posted:

Just a warning: these links contain images of two kids getting hit by a car. They lived and everything, but it's kind of distressing.

This is kind of hosed up.

This photo in the Boston Globe Year in Photos:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/12/2010_in_photos_part_3_of_3.html#photo20
is captioned: An Israeli motorist runs down a masked Palestinian youth who was standing among a group of youngsters throwing stones at Israeli cars on October 8, 2010 in the mostly Arab east Jerusalem neighborhood of Silwan. (ILIA YEFIMOVICH/AFP/Getty Images)

This is kind of bullshit. If you watch the video of this incident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvwDt8C4LVU it's pretty clear to see that the motorist was trying to get out of there, and starts driving away, initially swerving out of the way of the people throwing rocks at the car. It swerves back when it's about to hit the curb, and that's when it hits the kids, who are running directly at the car. As a photojournalist, the caption "runs down a masked Palestinian youth who was standing among a group of youngsters" is straight-up lying.

I'm not making any statements about the Palestinian - Israeli conflict, but to say a car is running down someone who was "standing among a group" is simply not stating the truth. Maybe the photographer was in shock when they wrote the caption; I know I'd be pretty messed up after witnessing that. But this caption clearly makes the insinuation that the driver purposely ran down this kid, and that kind of statement can't be made in this situation. It's violating journalistic ethics.

poopinmymouth posted:

The whole thing is bullshit not because of any vagaries around this individual incident, but because of the larger policies that cause these kind of interactions on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. It's like trying to photograph a single mugging in a poor neighborhood of the US and trying to draw some kind of lesson without keeping in mind all the policies that create wealth inequality, lack of jobs, education inequality, etc. With the right angle you can capture almost any incident and make it full of emotion for one side or the other.

I'm sure there are tons of photos floating around making US soldiers in Iraq look like heroes and the Iraqis like ignorant savages. That doesn't mean those photos show us anything about the morality or justification of that invasion.

Reichstag posted:

It's almost as if photographs are not representative of reality or something.

I HATE CARS posted:

stuff about people getting hit by a car

ExecuDork posted:

You could just buy another, not necessarily bigger, memory card. Surely swapping cards takes less time and aggravation than deleting files?

Whitezombi posted:

NPPA Code of Ethics

Visual journalists and those who manage visual news productions are accountable for upholding the following standards in their daily work:

1. Be accurate and comprehensive in the representation of subjects.
2. Resist being manipulated by staged photo opportunities.
3. Be complete and provide context when photographing or recording subjects. Avoid stereotyping individuals and groups. Recognize and work to avoid presenting one's own biases in the work.
4. Treat all subjects with respect and dignity. Give special consideration to vulnerable subjects and compassion to victims of crime or tragedy.
Intrude on private moments of grief only when the public has an overriding and justifiable need to see.
5. While photographing subjects do not intentionally contribute to, alter, or seek to alter or influence events.
6. Editing should maintain the integrity of the photographic images' content and context. Do not manipulate images or add or alter sound in any way that can mislead viewers or misrepresent subjects.
7. Do not pay sources or subjects or reward them materially for information or participation.
8. Do not accept gifts, favors, or compensation from those who might seek to influence coverage.
9. Do not intentionally sabotage the efforts of other journalists.

Ideally, visual journalists should:

1. Strive to ensure that the public's business is conducted in public. Defend the rights of access for all journalists.
2. Think proactively, as a student of psychology, sociology, politics and art to develop a unique vision and presentation. Work with a voracious appetite for current events and contemporary visual media.
3. Strive for total and unrestricted access to subjects, recommend alternatives to shallow or rushed opportunities, seek a diversity of viewpoints, and work to show unpopular or unnoticed points of view.
4. Avoid political, civic and business involvements or other employment that compromise or give the appearance of compromising one's own journalistic independence.
5. Strive to be unobtrusive and humble in dealing with subjects.
6. Respect the integrity of the photographic moment.
7. Strive by example and influence to maintain the spirit and high standards expressed in this code. When confronted with situations in which the proper action is not clear, seek the counsel of those who exhibit the highest standards of the profession. Visual journalists should continuously study their craft and the ethics that guide it.

Casull posted:

Okay, if I'm going to go absolutely psychoballistic with my shooting I need to either A: Bring my netbook so I can offload my pictures in between shoots, or B: Get a bigger memory card.

Because I did neither, I did C: Went through my camera, deleted semi-crappy RAWs, then shot in the smallest-megapixel JPGs available.

Casull posted:

Okay, if I'm going to go absolutely psychoballistic with my shooting I need to either A: Bring my netbook so I can offload my pictures in between shoots, or B: Get a bigger memory card.

Because I did neither, I did C: Went through my camera, deleted semi-crappy RAWs, then shot in the smallest-megapixel JPGs available.



e:


True that. I'm trying to weigh whether or not I should get another CF card (or SD-to-CF adapter + SD card so I don't have to worry as much about upgrading bodies) vs. bringing my netbook to places where I know I'll burn through pictures like crazy. Truth to be told, this is honestly the first time I've managed to actually run out of space. I guess my past sprees could never really count as going ballistic compared to today.

Whitezombi posted:

NPPA Code of Ethics

Visual journalists and those who manage visual news productions are accountable for upholding the following standards in their daily work:

1. Be accurate and comprehensive in the representation of subjects.
2. Resist being manipulated by staged photo opportunities.
3. Be complete and provide context when photographing or recording subjects. Avoid stereotyping individuals and groups. Recognize and work to avoid presenting one's own biases in the work.
4. Treat all subjects with respect and dignity. Give special consideration to vulnerable subjects and compassion to victims of crime or tragedy.
Intrude on private moments of grief only when the public has an overriding and justifiable need to see.
5. While photographing subjects do not intentionally contribute to, alter, or seek to alter or influence events.
6. Editing should maintain the integrity of the photographic images' content and context. Do not manipulate images or add or alter sound in any way that can mislead viewers or misrepresent subjects.
7. Do not pay sources or subjects or reward them materially for information or participation.
8. Do not accept gifts, favors, or compensation from those who might seek to influence coverage.
9. Do not intentionally sabotage the efforts of other journalists.

Ideally, visual journalists should:

1. Strive to ensure that the public's business is conducted in public. Defend the rights of access for all journalists.
2. Think proactively, as a student of psychology, sociology, politics and art to develop a unique vision and presentation. Work with a voracious appetite for current events and contemporary visual media.
3. Strive for total and unrestricted access to subjects, recommend alternatives to shallow or rushed opportunities, seek a diversity of viewpoints, and work to show unpopular or unnoticed points of view.
4. Avoid political, civic and business involvements or other employment that compromise or give the appearance of compromising one's own journalistic independence.
5. Strive to be unobtrusive and humble in dealing with subjects.
6. Respect the integrity of the photographic moment.
7. Strive by example and influence to maintain the spirit and high standards expressed in this code. When confronted with situations in which the proper action is not clear, seek the counsel of those who exhibit the highest standards of the profession. Visual journalists should continuously study their craft and the ethics that guide it.

Casull posted:

Okay, if I'm going to go absolutely psychoballistic with my shooting I need to either A: Bring my netbook so I can offload my pictures in between shoots, or B: Get a bigger memory card.

Because I did neither, I did C: Went through my camera, deleted semi-crappy RAWs, then shot in the smallest-megapixel JPGs available.



e:


True that. I'm trying to weigh whether or not I should get another CF card (or SD-to-CF adapter + SD card so I don't have to worry as much about upgrading bodies) vs. bringing my netbook to places where I know I'll burn through pictures like crazy. Truth to be told, this is honestly the first time I've managed to actually run out of space. I guess my past sprees could never really count as going ballistic compared to today.

Paragon8 posted:

I'd imagine that almost every photojournalist has broken one if not more of those guidelines.

Whitezombi posted:

Absolutely. I worked in the newspaper business for years. I was asked to alter photos all the time and I refused. One guy even told me he manipulated a scene before shooting.

Casull posted:

nonanone posted:

Or: shoot less, choose more carefully, think more and you might find you like your shots a lot better. I'd rather have 5 glorious raws than 100 tiny small jpegs, but that's me.

ease posted:

benisntfunny posted:

My crappy MacBook got all jacked up and I need the IRC server information again if someone has it please.

Gendo posted:

Does anyone have that chart of how good you are at photography vs how good you think you are at photography over time handy?

Reichstag posted:

You mean the one from popular forum 4chan.org?

xzzy posted:

I was a little disappointed they didn't show the POV of the camera guy who got run over in the first half. He got knocked on his rear end so hard, the announcers commented it. I forget who it was that plowed him over, but even he looked to be in pain from the collision.

I know it's the Superbowl and all, but it seemed like there was way too many photographers at that game. The end zones were a wall of red vests.

I also found it kind of lame how the first people that got to Aaron Rodgers were photographers.. some of those guys were probably running a 3 second 40 yard dash to get to him.

dakana posted:

Did anyone else see the guy at the super bowl with a huge telephoto (minimum 400 2.8, maybe bigger) on a monopod slung on his shoulder, taking photos of postgame with a pink point-and-shoot?

surgical scar posted:

just found out that loving Hotmail has been purging my older e-mails. as in, everything before Sep '10 is gone. bye bye thousands of dollars of photography-related tax writeoffs godfuckingdamnit