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Wyatt posted:I'll second this. I work for the state, as a senior policy analyst tasked with handling legislative issues for my agency. So I spend time with the law, but working from the policy side of things. I get to do a lot of research and analysis (which I love), get to be part of the legislative machine (I am, strictly speaking, a lobbyist for my agency), and put in 40 hours a week. I've got friends in the budget office. With the increases in furlough days and the increased health insurance/pension pay ins you're looking at a 10-25% pay cut. Work for a state (other than Wisconsin)
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drat Phantom posted:That's actually really generous assuming they don't do something like section stack all the scholarship kids against each other. Then again, having 75% of >3,000 students paying sticker makes a large pool of money they can dole out scholarships with. Basically what they do is build in a crushing curve designed to yank the grants of everyone but maybe 5% of the kids they give them too. So those figures are only for first years. I'd love to see who actually graduates with the same amount of money given to them for every year.
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Defleshed posted:Basically what they do is build in a crushing curve designed to yank the grants of everyone but maybe 5% of the kids they give them too. So those figures are only for first years. I'd love to see who actually graduates with the same amount of money given to them for every year. I suspect these numbers are not on the cooley website
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JudicialRestraints posted:I've got friends in the budget office. With the increases in furlough days and the increased health insurance/pension pay ins you're looking at a 10-25% pay cut. Yeah, don't even get me started on Governor Slash-n-Burn.
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Defleshed posted:Basically what they do is build in a crushing curve designed to yank the grants of everyone but maybe 5% of the kids they give them too. So those figures are only for first years. I'd love to see who actually graduates with the same amount of money given to them for every year. Right here, for one. To keep your scholarship at the same level you have to: 1. have a 2.0 or better, cumulative; and 2. have a 2.0 or better in the required classes. As for outrageous tuition costs, Cooley is currently at $1093 per credit hour. I honestly don't know costs for other law schools, and would be interested to see how it stacks up. Edit: I should also add that the 2.0 requirements listed above (for good standing) are not only the requirements for keeping your scholarship, they're the requirements for staying enrolled. So if grades drop to that point, academic dismissal is the real threat, not losing your Cooley bux. Alaemon fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Feb 9, 2011 |
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JudicialRestraints posted:I've got friends in the budget office. With the increases in furlough days and the increased health insurance/pension pay ins you're looking at a 10-25% pay cut. Add Florida to the list of no state jobs. Our new Tea Party governor, Rick $cott, started fulfilling his promise to create 700,000 jobs by cutting 5,000 state jobs, slashing $4billion from the education budget, and lowering taxes. His motto is that state government jobs kill the economy and the only way to create jobs is through the private sector (by lowering the corporate income tax from 4.5% to 3.5%).
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blar posted:Add Florida to the list of no state jobs. Our new Tea Party governor, Rick $cott, started fulfilling his promise to create 700,000 jobs by cutting 5,000 state jobs, slashing $4billion from the education budget, and lowering taxes. His motto is that state government jobs kill the economy and the only way to create jobs is through the private sector (by lowering the corporate income tax from 4.5% to 3.5%). this dude is dumb as hell but so is Florida so welp
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blar posted:Add Florida to the list of no state jobs. Our new Tea Party governor, Rick $cott, started fulfilling his promise to create 700,000 jobs by cutting 5,000 state jobs, slashing $4billion from the education budget, and lowering taxes. His motto is that state government jobs kill the economy and the only way to create jobs is through the private sector (by lowering the corporate income tax from 4.5% to 3.5%). it's almost as though wealth trickles down from the largest corporations
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JudicialRestraints posted:I've got friends in the budget office. With the increases in furlough days and the increased health insurance/pension pay ins you're looking at a 10-25% pay cut. atlas of bugs posted:it's almost as though wealth trickles down from the largest corporations nm fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Feb 9, 2011 |
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nm posted:Counterpoint: You get health and pension benefits. I'd happily trade some of those benefits for a higher paycheck. Our health benefits are obscene.
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nm posted:Trickles down into the CEO's pockets. Where it the trickles down into the towns of Maranello, Italy or Zuffenhausen, Germany. um, are you seriously trying to call bullshit on an economic mechanism that brought us the boom of the 90s??
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Alaemon posted:Right here, for one. That's interesting. I had an acquaintance who dropped out of Cooley who told me that he did so after losing all of his 1L grant money because he couldn't maintain a 3.5 GPA which he claimed was the cutoff. I suppose it is entirely possible he was lying in order to keep from revealing the embarrassing notion that he was unable to maintain a 2.0. Honestly, looking at the linked page, I should have gone to Cooley. I was a Michigan resident at the time I was applying to law schools and my LSAT score would have gotten me hella Cooleybux. The JD would be no more worthless than my current one from Loyola Chicago which I paid full sticker for. I think I might have actually applied to them but I don't remember hearing anything back. Waitlisted at Cooley! WTF!
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Defleshed posted:That's interesting. I had an acquaintance who dropped out of Cooley who told me that he did so after losing all of his 1L grant money because he couldn't maintain a 3.5 GPA which he claimed was the cutoff. I've never heard of anything like that.
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My husband took a test today to be a paralegal for LA County. He reported a sizeable portion of the other 50 people in the room had JDs and of those many were barred. Six figure debt for a $17/hour job. Edit: Not Cooley, but my scholarship at Southwestern was contingent on me maintaining a 3.5 in 1L. If I got below a 3.0, it was cut off entirely. Between 3.0 and 3.5 it was halved. I think. If I remember right.
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atlas of bugs posted:um, are you seriously trying to call bullshit on an economic mechanism that brought us the boom of the 90s?? Save me jeebus posted:Edit: Not Cooley, but my scholarship at Southwestern was contingent on me maintaining a 3.5 in 1L. If I got below a 3.0, it was cut off entirely. Between 3.0 and 3.5 it was halved. I think. If I remember right. After my first year I got a letter saying that if my grades didn't improve in 2 years from that date, I might maybe lose the money. The difference between T1 and T4, I guess. nm fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Feb 9, 2011 |
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Alaemon posted:I've never heard of anything like that. In that case, Cooley honestly doesn't seem like a bad idea for High LSAT scorers who live in Michigan and just want to get a JD so they can hang their own shingle. Seems like you could do a lot worse than 75-100% of your tuition costs covered. I feel bad for bad mouthing them based on what I assumed was the truth from one guy! Of course it could be that Alaemon is indeed the dean of Cooley and he's sabotaging our thread like the people who post about their wonderful experiences with Multi Level Marketing on the scam websites. Defleshed fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Feb 9, 2011 |
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If I were really one of the deans, I would be sitting here trying to explain why the Cooley rankings are a for-real thing, instead of agreeing that they make the school look pathetic and desperate.
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Aghh, god, the cause of action I fought day and night with my boss against adding finally came back and bit us in the rear end. The guy our client hired to work hourly on legal research said "gently caress this" and kicked it over to me. I have two days to respond to this MSJ and absolutely no loving precedent.
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When does Law Revue heat up? Anyone want to do a goon-based one? It could be cool to collab across campuses and submit something.
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CaptainScraps posted:Aghh, god, the cause of action I fought day and night with my boss against adding finally came back and bit us in the rear end. The guy our client hired to work hourly on legal research said "gently caress this" and kicked it over to me. I have two days to respond to this MSJ and absolutely no loving precedent. It appears as if you are dissatisfied with your job.
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sigmachiev posted:When does Law Revue heat up? Anyone want to do a goon-based one? It could be cool to collab across campuses and submit something. Yeah, goons and Law Revue are both pretty drat cool. Especially if they do a wacky hip hop parody.
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MoFauxHawk posted:Yeah, goons and Law Revue are both pretty drat cool. Especially if they do a wacky hip hop parody. Jesus. It's not like I want to do it on the subject of goons. We have some funny people who come here who might be down. E. Meh MFH you know you're my boy so why break my balls is all. Anyway, if someone wants to bounce ideas around hit me up. sigmachiev fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Feb 10, 2011 |
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Tell me about the glamorous world of temporary document review.
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poofactory posted:It appears as if you are dissatisfied with your job. The lovely part (for him)? I think I make more than he does and my job's pretty easy yeah i went straight from whining to bragging how about it
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quote:As for outrageous tuition costs, Cooley is currently at $1093 per credit hour. I honestly don't know costs for other law schools, and would be interested to see how it stacks up. My law school was I think 825 per credit hour for the class of '10, and 860 or 870 for the classes behind me. I thought that was bad, but Cooley's is terrifying. My TTT gave me some money 1L year, but the GPA cutoff was 3.5. I did well my 1L year, but we had a hard C+ curve, and I ended up around a 3.1 and lost the dinero. 3L year, they changed the curve to B- for 1Ls and B for everyone else, so I guess they changed the GPA cutoffs for the money too.
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nm posted:How dare I question St. Reagan! UMN offered me a full ride contingent on getting a 2.0 My UW scholarship is contingent upon 'adequate academic performance' but I have to write yearly thank you letters to whatever rich fucker financed it. But it's ok, jokes on me. There are no jobs in Wisconsin.
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JudicialRestraints posted:UMN offered me a full ride contingent on getting a 2.0
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Ooh. That reminds me. I think I was supposed to write a thank you letter for something I got in law school as well. Um.......well, it probably wasn't important.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Ooh. That reminds me. I think I was supposed to write a thank you letter for something I got in law school as well. Um.......well, it probably wasn't important. I actually wrote the letter, but I don't have an envelope. I was going to use one from work but there's a sign that says "If you use these for personal use you will be fined $300." I wish they would just let me email him.
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Columbia worth it at sticker?
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Trash Can Man posted:Columbia worth it at sticker? No.
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sigmachiev posted:Jesus. It's not like I want to do it on the subject of goons. We have some funny people who come here who might be down. Sorry, I wasn't trying to break your balls, was just being silly. MoFauxHawk fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Feb 10, 2011 |
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"Sorry you're going away for a year. I'd hug you, but..."
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# ? Feb 10, 2011 04:16 |
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Campus newspaper gettin in on the law school scam reporting industry! http://badgerherald.com/news/2011/02/08/villanova_law_school.php
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This guy graduated from a TTTT in the 90's, defaulted on his loans, and posted scans of his loan statements.
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blar posted:This guy graduated from a TTTT in the 90's, defaulted on his loans, and posted scans of his loan statements. Jesus, this guy should go work as a janitor for a non-profit and get that poo poo IBR'ed in 10 years.
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I have horrible non-confirmed news (source: former Managing Partner of larger CA lawfirm) University of Phoenix is planning to open a law school. I have no other details. T5 law school?
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nm posted:I have horrible non-confirmed news (source: former Managing Partner of larger CA lawfirm) Depending on what internet connection you use, it could be a T1 school.
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The first thing we do, let's burn all the law schools
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MoFauxHawk posted:Depending on what internet connection you use, it could be a T1 school. There is no groan loud enough
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