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Nevermind, I read the board wrong 'n poo poo
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Lyon posted:What go book is that? I might buy it. Phrases such as, "Thickness billows out like towering clouds, wondrous to behold." are too good to pass up. If the rest of the book is like that I'm in. All About Thickness by Ishida. It's a real quick read
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Anybody interested in a book swap? I've got an extra copy of Attack and Defense, good condition with the corner of some pages slightly bent. It's a good book, worth reading, and you need to deal with Kiseido's archaic ordering system to get a copy of it, as far as I can tell. I'm interested in problem books or A Dictionary of Basic Joseki, volume 2, but feel free to speak up if you think I've got something else I might be interested in. I've already got copies of In the Beginning, Positional Judgement and Analysis, 1001 Life or Death problems, and Graded Go Problems for Beginners.
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Feb 11, 2011 00:42
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You picked one of the worst books to trade, attack and defence is one of the most common books people buy. I hope you find someone to trade with though since it is a pretty good book. Personally I tend to buy go books and then not read them. I know I will get around to doing it someday, but it is still pretty irksome, especially since I am not exactly rolling in the dough.
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Feb 13, 2011 05:11
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You also don't play Go. Haha!
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Feb 13, 2011 05:15
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:You also don't play Go. Haha! Occasionally I play go, just not now.
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Feb 13, 2011 06:43
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:You also don't play Go. Haha! Hi oiseaux, I moved up to 8k. Keeping up with you! Hope you haven't gained/lost a stone in the interim.
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Feb 13, 2011 06:47
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hey, I'm 8k. Progress has been real slow..... just haven't done any study....
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Athanos posted:You picked one of the worst books to trade, attack and defence is one of the most common books people buy. I hope you find someone to trade with though since it is a pretty good book. I mean, I'm not gonna die if I have an extra copy of this, I'll probably just give it to a friend eventually or something. I just figured that I'd let folks know about it and see if anybody's interested. I can't deny it's a common book, since I've ended up with two copies myself.
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Feb 13, 2011 16:40
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Coca Koala posted:I mean, I'm not gonna die if I have an extra copy of this, I'll probably just give it to a friend eventually or something. I just figured that I'd let folks know about it and see if anybody's interested. I can't deny it's a common book, since I've ended up with two copies myself. Give to to someone else who plays irl or save it for an up-and-coming nublet. You have to be like 8k before you can really get any mileage out of A&D and I am going through it again at 2k and there's a lot of specifics that still sort of escape me.
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Feb 17, 2011 04:47
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Perhaps donate it to your go club if you are a member of one? You should maybe try and trade for get strong at tesuji. It make the claim that it can give you dan level tesuji intuition if you do the book. I am not sure if I believe that claim, but I don't see how the book could hurt you.
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So when do we get tygem worldwide? I heard somewhere that It Was Coming but I need another lovely korean interface to compliment cyberoro, which crashes every time I win or score a game. The only way to get out of a game without crashing is to resign. Maybe it's tryin to tell me something 
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Feb 26, 2011 21:57
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Under 15 posted:So when do we get tygem worldwide? I heard somewhere that It Was Coming but I need another lovely korean interface to compliment cyberoro, which crashes every time I win or score a game. The only way to get out of a game without crashing is to resign. Maybe it's tryin to tell me something The Koreans are really only pretending to want you there, they really don't. The good places like tygem require korean SSNs. I imagine it is all as elaborate troll on non-koreans while they laugh at us with their moon language on tygem.
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Feb 27, 2011 05:04
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it's actually really easy to make a chinese account on tygem. i used to play there occasionally, but nowadays i mostly go there to watch 9 dans play
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Anybody have advice for getting real-life Go groups together or arranging tournaments? I had a couple pupils but they were all seriously turned off by the learning curve, and even big cities like Austin seem to only get ~20 players for their annual Wildflower Classic. I wish there was more I could do to popularize Go in the States but it seems like everybody just plays online...
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Hipster Scumbag posted:Anybody have advice for getting real-life Go groups together or arranging tournaments? I had a couple pupils but they were all seriously turned off by the learning curve, and even big cities like Austin seem to only get ~20 players for their annual Wildflower Classic. I wish there was more I could do to popularize Go in the States but it seems like everybody just plays online... My go club just managed to sign up 70+ people last week and I think the trick was to keep it simple and fun. When I stopped focusing on the details and started focusing on fun more people started joining. What I mean by that is focus on the general rules, but don't worry to much about the more nebulous concepts in go like moyo, or aji too much. By the end of this term, maybe I will have some tips on how to actually keep members interested. Also focus on keeping games close when they are learning, no one likes to be crushed.
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Athanos posted:My go club just managed to sign up 70+ people last week and I think the trick was to keep it simple and fun. When I stopped focusing on the details and started focusing on fun more people started joining. What I mean by that is focus on the general rules, but don't worry to much about the more nebulous concepts in go like moyo, or aji too much. By the end of this term, maybe I will have some tips on how to actually keep members interested. Also focus on keeping games close when they are learning, no one likes to be crushed. I heard 5x5 is key; it's short enough that people don't get bored or lost and it makes certain things very plain, like 'keep your poo poo connected or you lose'. Occasionally people roll up to my club who are in the 20k range and while we usually try to give them a good teaching game it seems like it would be impossible to get any good at go if you didn't play online. At the rate of one or two teaching games a week it would take a long loving time. Anyway, my understanding is the best way is just 5x5 against another nub, no komi, and don't even explain poo poo like ko or seki or l&d until it comes up. Try to play as many games as possible.
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Under 15 posted:I heard 5x5 is key; it's short enough that people don't get bored or lost and it makes certain things very plain, like 'keep your poo poo connected or you lose'. Occasionally people roll up to my club who are in the 20k range and while we usually try to give them a good teaching game it seems like it would be impossible to get any good at go if you didn't play online. At the rate of one or two teaching games a week it would take a long loving time. I'd printed off a 9x9 board and was doing pretty well having two newbies play each other on that. 5x5 seems like even a 20k could figure out that opening at 3-3 is bulletproof. Low point of my experience so far has been running into a guy from chess club at a bar where we'd been playing, I invite him to play with us, he agrees, then talks about his life philosophy for an hour, not playing a move after the 10th or so, no matter how many times I cough and try to nudge the board at him  Tease.
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BaconBits posted:I cough and try to a 20k skill's and was doing of my experience so far has pointed off a guy for so far how each of my each others we'd been talks about him to nudge that of my experience so far where we'd been there, of my each other how point opening a bar where has bulletproof. Low point of my experience so far where we'd pretty we'd been running pretty we'd been play experience so far having two newbies I could figure out there hour, not play with or so far where the agrees, that. 5x5 seems lifely. I don't get it, did you suddenly contract aphasia?
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BaconBits posted:They made me do it. I asked you to post, but not that
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Players that take 5 minutes a go and then play all their moves in the last 10 seconds before sudden death are pricks!!
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Tygem just launched their English site: http://www.tygembaduk.com/
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Is the client and server worth signing up for?
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I think it's pretty neat, you've got 9d games going on almost all the time. A lot of famous pros play there incognito. They also have live relays from pro tournaments and they seem to be planning to do some lectures and stuff for westerners at some point, although there's nothing there yet. KGS should be fine for playing games until you're like 6d KGS though. After that it's a bit tough to get games on there and you end up playing the same people all the time
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Prodigious posted:I think it's pretty neat, you've got 9d games going on almost all the time. A lot of famous pros play there incognito. They also have live relays from pro tournaments and they seem to be planning to do some lectures and stuff for westerners at some point, although there's nothing there yet. KGS should be fine for playing games until you're like 6d KGS though. After that it's a bit tough to get games on there and you end up playing the same people all the time Tygem seems to be better than oro, anyway. It's still impersonal as hell though
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Mar 16, 2011 00:03
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You can also bet on the outcome of the games on Tygem!
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So two Saturdays ago (Mar 5) I went to a Go tournament! It was a handicap tournament (games are handicapped according to rank if there's a difference in rank), and how well you did was based on your percentage of wins (as long as you played at least 4 games). Although I didn't think it was the best tournament system, I was really there just to have fun. Despite not really playing in ages, I signed up as a 2k, and went 2 wins to 2 losses, which was better than expected. Also I suppose I'm an official AGA member now? Hopefully they'll add me to the list of players sometime soon.
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Hello there, I entered the room today. I learned to play the game a few years ago and I didn't remember getting past 20k. Now I'm back and I'm 16k for some reason.  If there are any beginners around here come be my raibaru in the true KGS spirit! (I kinda hate KGS)
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Symbolic Butt posted:Hello there, I entered the room today. I learned to play the game a few years ago and I didn't remember getting past 20k. Now I'm back and I'm 16k for some reason. If you hate KGS, then try another server and find out just how bad it can be
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Mar 19, 2011 00:57
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The first server I played was Oro I think and every dude who played me (and naturally beat me) seemed to get offended by my ineptitude. So welp.
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Mar 19, 2011 01:02
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Symbolic Butt posted:Hello there, I entered the room today. What room? I haven't played in fifteen years or so and I'm trying to build up the guts to try playing online. I used to be 4k -- Canadian Go Association rating. I probably rate at 100k right now.
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Wrojin posted:What room? I haven't played in fifteen years or so and I'm trying to build up the guts to try playing online. I used to be 4k -- Canadian Go Association rating. I probably rate at 100k right now. You can always create a throwaway account like "30kmastsa" and then ditch it when you feel less embarrassed. That's the good thing about being online you can always create a new account, so there is no need to build up guts! You are faceless and no one knows who you are. Join already 
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So, I'd like to get into playing go more, but I also would like to do it without getting out of bed. Sensei's library says that there's no KGS client for iphone, but there are ones for IGS and DGS. Does anyone have an opinion on which of those is better? Or know of a way to use KGS on an iphone?
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:So, I'd like to get into playing go more, but I also would like to do it without getting out of bed. Sensei's library says that there's no KGS client for iphone, but there are ones for IGS and DGS. Does anyone have an opinion on which of those is better? Or know of a way to use KGS on an iphone? If your iphone is jail broken you can install android and play that way. Here is a video of someone doing it.
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:So, I'd like to get into playing go more, but I also would like to do it without getting out of bed. Sensei's library says that there's no KGS client for iphone, but there are ones for IGS and DGS. Does anyone have an opinion on which of those is better? Or know of a way to use KGS on an iphone? IGS has higher standards but the interface and social options are so retarded and awkward that I can't imagine why someone under like, 1d, would want to use it
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:IGS has higher standards but the interface and social options are so retarded and awkward that I can't imagine why someone under like, 1d, would want to use it Yeah, in all honesty learning go is so difficult and awkward that depersonalizing it further by playing on your phone is going to be absolutely horrible. The quality of games you are going to get on any server when you are below 16k is very very low, and when your choices are between a Japanese server where nobody ever talks, even in Japanese, and a PBEM server where you can spend three days playing out a Jackson Pollock-esque game, you'd be better served just making time to play with someone you can communicate with and learn from. When you're starting out in go, I think the key is to play a lot of quick matches to get some literacy in the game, and get a lot of reviews to hammer in the basic concepts, and between DGS and IGS that just isn't gonna work. You'd be better served dragging your laptop into bed, if your cat will tolerate the bed-warming competition. There's a few programs out there that have life and death problems, which are by comparison really really good to do on your phone. If you do a couple sets of Ye Babbiest Problemes and get them down pat, you will blast the poo poo out of other nublets and get strong quickly. Long story short, being less than about 12k isn't really fun at all but with a little elbow grease you could be there from a full stop in less than a month.
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The Android app is ehh. I wouldn't bother breaking your iPhone in order to install it. KGS is the best server for beginners in regards to getting reviews, teaching games, etc but IGS has more players. KGS is the most user friendly and beginner friendly, once you have some vague idea of what you're doing I'd say feel free to branch out, but KGS is the best overall.
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The android app works wonderfully on tablets though  Tried it out on a Xoom and it was great.
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Buffis posted:The android app works wonderfully on tablets though It works fine for me on a phone, but I imagine it would be great on a tablet.
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