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For some people, a 2/2 in 6 months is realistic. In my experience, though, at the 9 month mark in my 16 month course, only 2 of the 18 students were 2/2. In 6 months, it would be very difficult to get 2/2 given the length of the course and exposure to new and authentic materials. To shoot for 2/2 is awesome and it shows you have a drive for the language and the course. Shoot for 2/2, expect 1+/1+, and make the 1/1 look like cake. Even if you don't get high scores, there is always continuing education which, based on how much you want to improve, can be very helpful.
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I've been in just shy of 5 months and could easily see swinging a 1-1 with the right teaching team. The poo poo is very difficult but if Ft. Bragg is anything like DLI by way of workload per-day you can pull it off. 2-2 loving forget about it. The difference from 1 to 2 is VERY substantial and 2-2 is considered passing for those of us in the 63 week course. And many have trouble even with that. Best of luck to you, post here when you start up class i'll dump all my knowledge on this thread.
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Nov 30, 2010 02:59
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2/2 in Russian was brutal at the Presidio with a 1 year course. 6 months? No way, and that is in a arguably easier language.
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Nov 30, 2010 21:13
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The people that were 2/2 after 9 months went on to get 3/3 or at least 2+/3 by the end. However, these people were far above the curve and took to languages like a neckbeard to WoW and Hotpockets. I'm saying that 2/2 isn't impossible, but I would say that 2/2 in 6 months is something only 1-2% of all students can pull off.
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Dirk Digglet posted:I've been in just shy of 5 months and could easily see swinging a 1-1 with the right teaching team. The poo poo is very difficult but if Ft. Bragg is anything like DLI by way of workload per-day you can pull it off. Class started. Almost 2 weeks in. Covered pingying and moving on to grammar right now. Its pretty freaking hard, but enjoyable. I'm having a hard time keeping up with the sheer amount of memorization required. Pronunciation isn't too bad, but the complexity of each word/phrase kinda blows my mind.
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Jan 12, 2011 23:50
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PINYIN! Just keep at it, it's not gonna get any easier but keep up with the memorization, especially for the vocab and you'll be fine.
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Jan 21, 2011 06:19
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Ok Spergmaster Army goons, I'm confused. How many 35Ns go to the DLI? I've been told, by the same person, multiple times that I definitely will go, no 35Ns go, every 35N goes, dude you're going like next month. QUIT loving WITH ME NATIONAL GUARD!
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gleep glop posted:Ok Spergmaster Army goons, I'm confused. How many 35Ns go to the DLI? I've been told, by the same person, multiple times that I definitely will go, no 35Ns go, every 35N goes, dude you're going like next month. Active duty doesn't send them anymore. You have a little more leeway in the guard, but generally speaking the NGB doesn't send them either.
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iceslice posted:Class started. Almost 2 weeks in. Covered pingying and moving on to grammar right now. Its pretty freaking hard, but enjoyable. I'm having a hard time keeping up with the sheer amount of memorization required. Pronunciation isn't too bad, but the complexity of each word/phrase kinda blows my mind. After just listening to them speak ceaselessly for a few weeks tones and word memorization wont be a problem at all. 23 weeks in and I still write all my tests in Pinyin, it'll be one of your best friends next to this website... http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php Grammar is another issue. After 5000 years of language the Chinese people put words pretty much wherever the gently caress they feel like. There is a basic structure you'll get used to, but get in to the habit of asking lots and lots of questions if you can say this v.s. that. You're going to hear words used in ways that dont make sense (like "dui", which means correct can also mean "towards" like "wo dui ta shuo" or I towards him spoke) but dont let it get to you, thats actually one of the things i really dig about this language. Finally I guess just go over the vocab CONSTANTLY. at 23 weeks we're well over 1500 words and if you just plain forget a character (which you will) it can completely gently caress you over in reading a passage. There's a story that gets passed around here about four native speaking chinese professors with PHDs in their language trying to remember the character for "sneeze". I'll post more on grammar in a bit. Im hungry.
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Dirk Digglet posted:After just listening to them speak ceaselessly for a few weeks tones and word memorization wont be a problem at all. 23 weeks in and I still write all my tests in Pinyin, it'll be one of your best friends next to this website... All of our writing is done on a computer so we have to only be able to recognize characters, write out names, and be able to write Pinyin. I've been using ArchChinese.com, but that site looks even better. They're telling us we should be approaching 2500 words by the time we're done with our 6 months, which is pretty nutty. Its not like DLI, we have to OPI at a 1/1 to pass which I'm told isn't difficult. We spent the week covering the basics of grammar and even our instructor was telling us that things just sorta go in a general format and the only real reason to use one order over another is either because it "just sounds right" or emphasis on the thing you're talking about first. I gotta say its a pretty cool language.
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Hey, I've never been to DLI or anything, but I've been studying Farsi through a civilian language school for about 5 or 6 months now. I think I want to take the DLPT. What kind of stuff should I now in order to get at least a 1/1?
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Deathy McDeath posted:Hey, I've never been to DLI or anything, but I've been studying Farsi through a civilian language school for about 5 or 6 months now. I think I want to take the DLPT. What kind of stuff should I now in order to get at least a 1/1? http://www.govtilr.org/ middle-bottom, check out the self-assessment. interagency language roundtable sets the standard score that DoD and others use
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gleep glop posted:Guard did some magic and now I'm a (future) 35P. DLI August 8th. 13M to 35P still makes me You poor soul. You will gain a ton of valuable knowledge, but the amount of bullshit you're about to wade through cannot be overstated. In other words, good luck.
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So who's gunna give the Air Force a run for their money next time? What do you say Army? Hooah What do you say Marines? Hooray What do you say Navy? (Silence) followed by laughter
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You fukkin nerd Marines say oorah not... hooray. It was nice that we could all get together and laugh at the navy though.
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Feb 4, 2011 08:37
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Sigh, it's sad I know that you're talking about those god damned commander's cups...
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TheUnhorse posted:Sigh, it's sad I know that you're talking about those god damned commander's cups... and I'm absolutely certain the commandant had something cheeky to say when the Marines stood in formation, not clapping.
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Feb 5, 2011 00:16
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Like "Hey faggots, quit taking yourselves so seriously. You're not the infantry" to the sound of the crowd's uproarious laughter. Alas, Colonel Pick is way classier than that. If any of you guys get a chance to shoot the poo poo with him he's an awesome guy.
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TheUnhorse posted:Colonel Pick is way classier than that. If any of you guys get a chance to shoot the poo poo with him he's an awesome guy. He's head and shoulders above Sandusky, I'll give him that. Who's the CSM there now? I lost track after Clark.
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GreenMeat posted:He's head and shoulders above Sandusky, I'll give him that. Who's the CSM there now? I lost track after Clark. No idea, I was there when Sandusky was there.
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Ah, it's CSM Bellotte. Met her in Iraq...meh.
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Spockly posted:So who's gunna give the Air Force a run for their money next time? same poo poo happened last cup. Except ONE kid in the middle navy formation yelled out "YES SIR!" And apparently some people were saluting the commander from the front row of the navy formation. like, the man says "what do you say, navy?" and a handful of kids did some half-assed salute from across the football field. Honestly guys, first the belts and now this At least we took first again
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Dirk Digglet posted:same poo poo happened last cup. Except ONE kid in the middle navy formation yelled out "YES SIR!" I was way in the back of an Army formation at the time, which was lucky, because I was laughing so hard I was tearing up.
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I suppose that this is the best place to post this: If my stuff goes right I'll likely be attending DLI as part of IET for the WIARNG. Are POVs allowed given the length of the course?
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POVs are definitely allowed.
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Do those going to such a long course get any leave after BCT or AIT before reporting to DLI to accomplish the task of getting a POV there?
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That's awesome, how many semesters is the Chinese course? Did you have any prior foreign language or Chinese?
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Nice! We're about to take our semester 1 exam in a few days, although its not the same as DLI. We'll have a written exam Thursday, and then a fake OPI with a DLI instructor some time next week. Chinese is freaking hard.
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DoktorLoken posted:I suppose that this is the best place to post this: Woah what the gently caress mos are you? Is that a new mi unit in wisconsin or what? When I enlisted NG had no intel poo poo except the obligatory 35F. Spill all your secrets.
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TheUnhorse posted:Woah what the gently caress mos are you? Is that a new mi unit in wisconsin or what? When I enlisted NG had no intel poo poo except the obligatory 35F. Spill all your secrets. 32nd IBCT's STB has an MI company in Madison with all sorts of MI slots. I'm not currently enlisted in the Guard but will be going 35M if I do well on the DLAB today. What unit are you with? I'm assuming you're in Wisconsin.
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What up Madi-goons? I'm out of the language (and military) biz now, so I have no idea what WI NG units are currently running around.
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Well, I scored an 88 on the DLAB this afternoon. Looks like I'm not taking a language coded MOS at this juncture.  Oh well, I'll take a different MI MOS for now and then do some studying to retake it eventually. I understood the test and I did well on some sections, mediocre on others. I think I'll do well with some practice. Any thoughts on 35F as an alternative? It sounds more desk bound than I want but still interesting to me.
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DoktorLoken posted:Well, I scored an 88 on the DLAB this afternoon. Looks like I'm not taking a language coded MOS at this juncture. As a Mike, I can tell you that being a Fox will be much more boring and less fulfilling. All the Foxes sit at desks all day and hate life. Are you required to get a DLAB passing score as a Mike now? When I enlisted, it was optional. PM me and I'll give you some alternative suggestions.
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DoktorLoken posted:That's awesome, how many semesters is the Chinese course? Did you have any prior foreign language or Chinese? Chinese is 3 semesters long, and I have no prior experience w/ a foreign language
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ryan_woody posted:As a Mike, I can tell you that being a Fox will be much more boring and less fulfilling. All the Foxes sit at desks all day and hate life. Are you required to get a DLAB passing score as a Mike now? When I enlisted, it was optional. PM me and I'll give you some alternative suggestions. I didn't think there was a 'passing' score, unless you mean 'high enough for the relevant language category?' I could be wrong though, I can hardly speak English let alone anything else.
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I needed a 95 for a Cat I (French, Spanish etc.) language even. I'll get a DLAB study guide and retake it in 6 months. Although I'm definitely going to enlist in the Guard for something else in the mean time. Not the end of the world for me but still disappointing.  edit: Based on my Googling, it appears that it might be in the realm of possibility to get a DLAB waiver? I mean I'm only a few points off for Cat I languages. Will have to investigate further. Flying_Crab fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Feb 16, 2011 |
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DoktorLoken posted:I needed a 95 for a Cat I (French, Spanish etc.) language even. I'll get a DLAB study guide and retake it in 6 months. Although I'm definitely going to enlist in the Guard for something else in the mean time. Not the end of the world for me but still disappointing. PM me.
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DoktorLoken posted:32nd IBCT's STB has an MI company in Madison with all sorts of MI slots. I'm not currently enlisted in the Guard but will be going 35M if I do well on the DLAB today. What unit are you with? I'm assuming you're in Wisconsin. God dammit, that was not around 3 and a half years ago when I enlisted. I'm a 35P, but I wanted Mike hard and did not want to do active duty (it sucks as bad as I figured it would). So hey yeah run with it, enjoy the gently caress out of it, and when you're done with DLI get a bachelors degree in your language pretty much free. Bastard.
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