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RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Taffer posted:

L4D1*

Man like it or not L4D2 did do a lot of nice things. Adding melee weapons alone changed a big dynamic of the game that couldnt be done as dlc.

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Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


RagnarokAngel posted:

Man like it or not L4D2 did do a lot of nice things. Adding melee weapons alone changed a big dynamic of the game that couldnt be done as dlc.

Like making the survivors more OP than they already were

(if we wanna keep spergin about this we should probably move it to the l4d thread)

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

It just looked like "When Realdolls Emote" to me.

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"
Devs should keep making zombie games until someone gets it right.

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

The inevitable remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQBJZhK5rp8

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Anyone has experience with a mouse bungee?



Pretty overpriced but sounds like a godsend for wired mouses.

Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
"Godsend" to solve... what, exactly? Do people actually yank their mice so hard they run out of cord, or somehow get stuck on a cable attached to the opposite side of the device from your hand?

I get the appeal of wireless peripherals letting you mouse or type from across the room, but the idea that the wire itself is a problem outside of range boggles my mind.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Gaming peripherals, pay $50 for some mouse cable!

Dudebro
Jan 1, 2010
I :fap: TO UNDERAGE GYMNASTS
Dead Island trailer was pretty chilling. Developed by a Polish house, gives me hope for the PC version. 4-player goon co-op? Count me in.

Tufty
May 21, 2006

The Traffic Safety Squirrel

Monster w21 Faces posted:

Devs should keep making zombie games until someone gets it right.

http://roguesurvivor.blogspot.com/p/about.html

Here you go :)

slovach
Oct 6, 2005
Lennie Fuckin' Briscoe

Dudebro posted:

Dead Island trailer was pretty chilling. Developed by a Polish house, gives me hope for the PC version. 4-player goon co-op? Count me in.

Being developed by the guys behind Call of Jaurez which was pretty loving good to be honest and about as savagely optimized as you could ever hope to achieve on PC so consider me hyped.

Devil Wears Wings
Jul 17, 2006

Look ye upon the wages of diet soda and weep, for it is society's fault.

slovach posted:

Being developed by the guys behind Call of Jaurez which was pretty loving good to be honest and about as savagely optimized as you could ever hope to achieve on PC so consider me hyped.

Seriously? I'm hyped now. Call of Juarez 2 was like a B-rate Red Dead Redemption (think of how Two Worlds was in comparison to Oblivion and you've got a pretty good general idea) and the PC version was badass.

Space Skeleton
Sep 28, 2004


Alright this is cool. Almost didn't try it because roguelikes seem to have universally obtuse controls and graphics but surprisingly it has good controls including mouse functions and informative tiles! This is cool!

Vertigus
Jan 8, 2011

Vegetable posted:

Anyone has experience with a mouse bungee?



Pretty overpriced but sounds like a godsend for wired mouses.

Holy loving poo poo the mouse bungee is back

Somebody call PlanetQuake in the year 2000, I need thresh's opinion on this

RightClickSaveAs
Mar 1, 2001

Tiny animals under glass... Smaller than sand...


Monster w21 Faces posted:

Devs should keep making zombie games until someone gets it right.
I'm still waiting for someone to make a Grand Theft Auto-style free roaming survival horror game with zombies. And Dead Rising doesn't count! The first was console-exclusive, and from what I saw of it they locked you in a shopping mall, put you up against a timer, and gave you 5 minute long unskippable cutscenes.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

RightClickSaveAs posted:

I'm still waiting for someone to make a Grand Theft Auto-style free roaming survival horror game with zombies. And Dead Rising doesn't count! The first was console-exclusive, and from what I saw of it they locked you in a shopping mall, put you up against a timer, and gave you 5 minute long unskippable cutscenes.

This isn't a really fair evaluation.

1.You are locked into a mall but it's more like the mall of America than your local shopping mall.

2.You are given a timer but its extremely permissive, the games designed around replays because your level is saved from game to game

3.Wrong about the cutscenes.


In short Dead Rising owns.

Monolith.
Jan 28, 2011

To save the world from the expanding Zone.

Vegetable posted:

Anyone has experience with a mouse bungee?



Pretty overpriced but sounds like a godsend for wired mouses.

What the hell is this supposed to do? Are people whipping their mice around that have two inch wires or something?

Spatial
Nov 15, 2007

It ensures the mouse always has some cable slack, which makes it easier to move around.

Of course, you don't need a specialised tripod to accomplish that.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

RightClickSaveAs posted:

I'm still waiting for someone to make a Grand Theft Auto-style free roaming survival horror game with zombies. And Dead Rising doesn't count! The first was console-exclusive, and from what I saw of it they locked you in a shopping mall, put you up against a timer, and gave you 5 minute long unskippable cutscenes.

There's always Survival Crisis Z. A bit shallow, but also a teensy bit awesome. And free.

e: Still, Rogue Survivor seems like it would have that "build a fort to stand against the darkness" that would really make something like this shine. Maybe something like that will be the end result of Dwarf Fortress/Minecraft/Goblin Camp/all the other horde games.

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Feb 18, 2011

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Spatial posted:

It ensures the mouse always has some cable slack, which makes it easier to move around.

Of course, you don't need a specialised tripod to accomplish that.

Yeah. You seriously do not need what is probably a $50 piece of poo poo so that your mouse has slack.

Also I have to agree with RagnarokAngel on Dead Rising 2. It's a milestone better than part 1 which is an older and more obtuse console exclusive.

As for the subject of zombie games I love the ones that aren't poo poo. Fort Zombie sounds like a good idea but the execution is horrible to the point where Dominic White has not extremely positive things to say about it I think.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

averox posted:

Also I have to agree with RagnarokAngel on Dead Rising 2. It's a milestone better than part 1 which is an older and more obtuse console exclusive.

I actually was talking about 1. 2 is good but I liked 1 more. 2 did some dumb things in addition to the nice things, like needing to give your daughter Zombrex in a very narrow time window. DR1 never had anything that specific in terms of time.

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


Spatial posted:

It ensures the mouse always has some cable slack, which makes it easier to move around.

Of course, you don't need a specialised tripod to accomplish that.

Tape is a lovely thing. Still amazed that people will pay a ton of money to accomplish what 1 inch of crappy tape will do.

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.
It's almost as bad as "Hi-Fi" audio companies selling a mat to audiophiles to improve the warmth of the sound in their room.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

RagnarokAngel posted:

I actually was talking about 1. 2 is good but I liked 1 more. 2 did some dumb things in addition to the nice things, like needing to give your daughter Zombrex in a very narrow time window. DR1 never had anything that specific in terms of time.

Oh god.

I thought DR2 was a lot more fun with being able to strafe with guns and survivors who weren't completely useless. The Zombrex run is a bit annoying but you only do it three times. It also helps to be able to act like completely dumbasses in co-op.

Cheezymadman
Mar 29, 2010

by Fistgrrl

Kashwashwa posted:

It's almost as bad as "Hi-Fi" audio companies selling a mat to audiophiles to improve the warmth of the sound in their room.

Hey console players, this $50 Monster cable is better than that lovely $10 HDMI you've got. Buy it, you'll notice a difference. It's gold plated, you can't go wrong!

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

Cheezymadman posted:

Hey console players, this $50 Monster cable is better than that lovely $10 HDMI you've got. Buy it, you'll notice a difference. It's gold plated, you can't go wrong!

http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm

Node
May 20, 2001

KICKED IN THE COOTER
:dings:
Taco Defender
Someone link that $500 ceramic thing that lifts audio cables off the ground.

Maybe I saw it in this thread come to think of it.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004


"In extended listening sessions, I found the cables' greatest strength to be its PRAT. Simply put these are very danceable cables. Music playing through them results in the proverbial foot-tapping scene with the need or desire to get up and move. Great swing and pace—these cables smack that right on the nose big time."

That's right, these cables are guaranteed to make you dance no matter what.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Node posted:

Someone link that $500 ceramic thing that lifts audio cables off the ground.

Maybe I saw it in this thread come to think of it.

This was a review I read of these very "cable lifters:"

quote:

On first hearing the difference I was really surprised: the Cable Elevators brought about a clearly noticeable improvement over my homemade versions. Track after track, it was a delight to confirm that my system was sounding better. I noted hearing greater levels of dynamics, quicker transients and better attack, a darker background and increased musical articulation allowing for a more expressive performance. Also: greater control at frequency extremes enabling music to project more convincingly, all translating into a more believable and musical experience. Switching to cables on the floor, carpet to be more precise, was followed by a loss of musical involvement. The sound became emotionally flatter and slower, there was less of that "get up and go" and the corresponding musical energy I so preferred. I quickly went back to the Cable Elevators and continued to listen, long into the night.

http://www.audiotweaks.com/reviews/cblelevators/page03.htm

e: above was letter-by-letter hand-edited to provide emboldifying context for per-pixel emphasis on bullshit cultspeak
ee: the sound actually became slower???

Now, this gentleman is not only comparing lifted cables to those that are merely carpet-borne, but the difference between his homemade porcelain cable lifters and the pricy brand name versions. Ah, the curse and the pleasure of he that should bear the Golden Ear!

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Feb 19, 2011

Kashwashwa
Jul 11, 2006
You'll do fine no matter what. That's my motto.

doctorfrog posted:

This was a review I read of these very "cable lifters:"


http://www.audiotweaks.com/reviews/cblelevators/page03.htm

Now, this gentleman is not only comparing lifted cables to those that are merely carpet-borne, but the difference between his homemade porcelain cable lifters and the pricy brand name versions. Ah, the curse and the pleasure of he that should bear the Golden Ear!

Most of these old dudes probably have terrible ears in the first place....

Finger Sandwiches
Jul 12, 2000

Perfect for getting that last bit of food from across the table.
What is their reasoning for rejecting double blind tests again? It's like these guys are in an actual cult.

SmokinDan
Oct 24, 2010
Amazing screenshot of The Witcher 2

I cannot wait.

E: Sorry about the huge image.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe
I hope the combat is better this time around. It pretty much ruined the first game for me along with the dodgy translation. I loved everything thing else about the game but I could never get myself to finish it because I'd get bored at some point during the third chapter in the city.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Jet-Poop posted:

What is their reasoning for rejecting double blind tests again? It's like these guys are in an actual cult.

Heh, you know drat well what the reason is for not doing a double blind. I mean seriously James Randi has a cool $1 million if someone can perceive better sound through the Pear Anjou cables in a double blind.

Manac0r
Oct 25, 2010

"Of all the things I have lost I miss my mind the most..."
Smoking dan, that shot of witcher 2 gave me a tingle. Can't wait either. We got a release date?

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

Spatial posted:

It ensures the mouse always has some cable slack, which makes it easier to move around.

Of course, you don't need a specialised tripod to accomplish that.
It's not just having some cable slack, it suspends the cable in the air so it'll never drag along the desk. That's always been my bigest problem with wired mouses. I agree that $50 is too much but it does seem pretty useful to me.

edit: Okay, it's pretty silly. I've accomplished the same thing by taping the cable to a higher platform on the desk. Inspiration:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMtf2UKJxsw

Works perfectly.

Vegetable fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 18, 2011

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

averox posted:

Heh, you know drat well what the reason is for not doing a double blind. I mean seriously James Randi has a cool $1 million if someone can perceive better sound through the Pear Anjou cables in a double blind.

Naw he doesn't mean the actual reason. Audiophiles have some weird rear end excuse for why they're not valid. I've heard it before but can't remember what it was.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

RagnarokAngel posted:

Naw he doesn't mean the actual reason. Audiophiles have some weird rear end excuse for why they're not valid. I've heard it before but can't remember what it was.

"It's only valid data for the individual taking the test" followed by a dozen vague references to studies about human hearing that never materialize. Much like scientology, audiophiles are amusing until you realize how deeply invested they get into it and then it becomes unsettling.

darkhand
Jan 18, 2010

This beard just won't do!
That's the thing I hate about hobby forums. You'll get some elitist dudes that try to invalidate what other people use to justify their spending habits. It really takes away from all the valid responses in thoughtful advice. It happens almost all over and it makes it hard to wade through all the bullshit to get actual advice.

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MrMidnight
Aug 3, 2006

darkhand posted:

That's the thing I hate about hobby forums. You'll get some elitist dudes that try to invalidate what other people use to justify their spending habits. It really takes away from all the valid responses in thoughtful advice. It happens almost all over and it makes it hard to wade through all the bullshit to get actual advice.

No poo poo. You see that all over here even. Just take a gander over at Watch and Weight for gods sake.

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