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infinity2005 posted:Netsky is a bit crap tbh... now that Hospital artists seem to get mainstream play automatically i wonder how Nu:tone's tracks will fare. I always thought the Matrix remix of 'Seven Years' is precisely the sort of dnb to be popular and get in thee the charts if promoted and got radio play. He's got a handful of tracks I'd play out, but the vast majority of them are disposable club anthems with no shelflife. good netsky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0azxS5FTpY
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SUBFRIES posted:Nope, not me. Been going by Harry Ransom for a while. Speakin'o'which...I literally have TWO Expansion Broadcast Podcast episodes with YOUR NAME on 'em...one of them is downloading as I type this. Can't wait to give 'em a listen, man! chrix posted:good netsky: That one isn't bad...I still think, "Everyday" is Netsky's best track...despite it also being the first Netsky track I ever heard.
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# ? Feb 21, 2011 22:32 |
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Riot.EXE posted:That one isn't bad...I still think, "Everyday" is Netsky's best track...despite it also being the first Netsky track I ever heard. Your Way, Memory Lane, Everday, Come Back Home and I Refuse are all loving sweet. Basically all of his older vocal stuff is awesome, I'd wager it'll have a lot more staying power than 95% of his other songs. The poo poo he's putting out these days is just worthy
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 01:11 |
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i like netsky track i cant hold it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dMTQI_u7M
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 01:29 |
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Riot.EXE posted:Speakin'o'which...I literally have TWO Expansion Broadcast Podcast episodes with YOUR NAME on 'em...one of them is downloading as I type this. Can't wait to give 'em a listen, man! Ahem, Tomorrow's Another Day VIP would like to have a word with you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lR-b0B5CIY
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Dell_Zincht posted:Ahem, Tomorrow's Another Day VIP would like to have a word with you. I was under the pretense that the version I loved was the original. Now I realize that the song I am in love with right now is the VIP. What an amazing song - I really don't see how anybody can dislike Netsky's work. I am not impressed with every song on his debut, but Iron Heart is one of the best around. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4rt6Nxdm4Y UKF has been full of good tunes recently, for those of you who aren't subscribed. "Space Between" - Loadstar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjNQOHJjUSI&feature=relmfu This is a really interesting song. I assume a lot won't like it - the intro is accoustic and the vocals aren't the most masculine by any means. But it's really a pretty neat d&b song in my opinion. "War Machine" - Reso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKwjkzMiAx0&feature=relmfu Not familiar with Reso's work prior to this, but this is a pretty huge drumstep track. If you're into that, I think you'll love it. "Feel So Free" - Smooth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlnAjsdeBc Smooth is an artist I'm really looking forward to this year. His track 7th Sense was in Viper Recording's Summer Slammers album last year and it was pretty awesome. In addition, he had a pretty sweet track on one of Metrik's mixes a few months back before his EP release. I've got lots more to post, but I realize that as of late there has been a whole lot of 90's stuff being posted. Not exactly my cup of tea, so I wanted some others to come out of their shell and see some new tunes.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 05:35 |
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Dr. Goonstein posted:I was under the pretense that the version I loved was the original. Now I realize that the song I am in love with right now is the VIP. What an amazing song - I really don't see how anybody can dislike Netsky's work. I am not impressed with every song on his debut, but Iron Heart is one of the best around. It's pretty easy to dislike Netsky's work because he reuses the same high-pitched synthy noise on top of what would be a decent beat by itself. Half of the tunes from his album are completely unoriginal and you can tell Hospital rushed the release of the album due to his popularity surge in 2010. Secret Agent Pirate Bay Swedish House Mafia - One (Remix) Escape f/ MC Darrison Pendulum - Witchcraft (Remix) To me these all sound way too similar to play on the regular, which (for a DJ) reduces its shelf-life considerably. That doesn't mean they don't get played, but to me, Netsky takes a step away from the pure fundamentals of Drum & Bass. Sure, the genre will grow and morph, leaving the purists in the dust, but to say "I really don't see how anybody can dislike Netsky's work" confuses the hell out of me because Netsky's one of the most formulaic and unoriginal producers making dnb right now.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 15:17 |
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chrix posted:Half of the tunes from his album are completely unoriginal and you can tell Hospital rushed the release of the album due to his popularity surge in 2010. I still like Netsky but this is definitely true. The first four tunes on his album are top notch and showcase what he is capable of, but the other tunes (for me at least) just kinda blur together into one mediocre, forgettable track. However, like him or not, he's here to stay, for now at least.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 16:08 |
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Was out of town over the weekend, so if you guys had any other questions about stuff I was involved in, just let me know.chrix posted:SUBFRIES, that's loving ill that you're at least a part of dnb history by being featured on a Moving Shadow release. From someone who got into the game recently (about 4 years ago), I have a lot of respect for the guys who helped shape dnb into what it is today. I'm working on getting into production, so I hope to also put my footprint on my favorite form of music. Thanks for being an inspiration. Thanks! As far as the U.S. goes, there are a lot of people in various genres of electronic music that were purely dnb DJs and producers 10 years ago, and then branched out, although some still do dnb or take breaks and resurface occasionally (Hive). Riot.EXE posted:Speakin'o'which...I literally have TWO Expansion Broadcast Podcast episodes with YOUR NAME on 'em...one of them is downloading as I type this. Can't wait to give 'em a listen, man! EXBC is a fun group to do stuff with. I play the show once a month usually, and we have a lot of creative license with Destroyer.net. Another DC area webcast is Dirtbox Radio, which is fun, play it maybe once every 3 months or so, but you have to play strictly dnb because it's on JungleTrain.net and they are touchy about non-dnb. ----- Also, for the dnb people that are just finding out about Reso, he is a monster. By far one of my favorite producers of the past three years. It is really cool hearing him write dnb and bring together a lot of his different influences.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 16:14 |
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Xeno posted:http://soundcloud.com/deftek-1/deftek-its-over-now I like the vocal and how you've structured the track, sequence of everything seems to make sense. The drums and the synth, they might need a bit of processing to gel them together and make them stand out a bit more.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 16:16 |
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HJB posted:I still like Netsky but this is definitely true. The first four tunes on his album are top notch and showcase what he is capable of, but the other tunes (for me at least) just kinda blur together into one mediocre, forgettable track. However, like him or not, he's here to stay, for now at least. No doubt, and as mentioned, he does have some redeeming tunes. I hate on a lot of that poppy new-sound dnb, but honestly, those are the exact kind of tunes that got me into dnb in the first place. They're easy to digest and kind to uneducated ears, almost like a gateway drug. Pendulum's Hold Your Colour comes to mind.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 16:33 |
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Dr. Goonstein posted:"Space Between" - Loadstar The flipside, BLVD, is loads better. http://soundcloud.com/loadstar/blvd Excellent production, melody, and is really really heavy out in the clubs. Can't wait to play it out.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 18:13 |
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chrix posted:No doubt, and as mentioned, he does have some redeeming tunes. I hate on a lot of that poppy new-sound dnb, but honestly, those are the exact kind of tunes that got me into dnb in the first place. They're easy to digest and kind to uneducated ears, almost like a gateway drug. Pendulum's Hold Your Colour comes to mind. Which makes me more glad I got into this poo poo WAAAAAY earlier.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 20:15 |
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On the other hand my ears are fairly well "educated" and I can't stand most non-commercial dnb. But then I only really started listening to it in 2008 so make your own punchlines.
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# ? Feb 22, 2011 20:53 |
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Even if all you guys think Netsky's generic or whatever, I still consider his album one of my favorite DNB albums of the past couple years and think it'd be a great introduction for anyone who wants to get into the liquid/Hospital side of drum & bass vv
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Even if all you guys think Netsky's generic or whatever, I still consider his album one of my favorite DNB albums of the past couple years and think it'd be a great introduction for anyone who wants to get into the liquid/Hospital side of drum & bass vv I think you mean the new sound of dnb. Hospital used to put out goodies like this: London Elektricity - Rewind (1999) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz3J9Hr1hdA Landslide - Drum & Bossa (1999) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9N_6NdtBLs Danny Byrd - Do It Again (2000) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N9MNI4GKRM High Contrast - Return of Forever (2002) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ff0qD9zlQs compared to... B-Complex - Beautiful Lies (2010) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya-_SYDHU2Q To me, a good introduction to Drum & Bass (Hospital style) would be Plastic Surgery 3, High Contrast's True Colours, London Elektricity's Billion Dollar Gravy, or even Logistic's Now More Than Ever.
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Riot.EXE posted:Which makes me more glad I got into this poo poo WAAAAAY earlier. same. I got into jungle when I was in 5th grade. I started off my dnb listening experience with lemon d, dj hype, and dillinja. the stuff now doesn't really have the same type of swag that pre-2000 jungle dnb had
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Anae posted:The flipside, BLVD, is loads better. Ah okay I am familiar with this track. Was it on Nightlife 5 or something? I love this one too, but I was still very impressed with Space Between. I also suppose I got carried away saying I don't know how people could dislike Netsky. You are pretty much right on his work. I don't really care for his remix of Witchcraft at all. He does have some impressive work in my opinion though. Another great song I am into right now: "Greatest Feeling" - Hectix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-lDKc0jusA
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chrix posted:or even Logistic's Now More Than Ever. Yep. Now More Than Ever is loving amazing, probably my most listened to album ever. It never gets old. For people wanting to get into that kind of dnb I'd probably recommend Now More Than Ever, True Colours and London Elektricity's Power Ballads.
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# ? Feb 23, 2011 02:14 |
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Did anyone else hit shogun audio at cable on saturday? absolutely sick night! saw Icicle, Rockwell, Break b2b Spectrasoul, Optical B2B Fierce B2B Matrix classic virus set, Alix Perez, and DJ Friction. Every single set was absolutely spot on, wicked selection of tunes and I don't think I heard a mistake the entire night. If any of you guys are around london and into the techier side of dnb I highly recommend you check out the shogun nights, always so good. Here's a few tunes ive been really feeling recently on this side of dnb: BTK - Vengeance (Octane & DLR's Ripping and Tearing Remix) Noisia & Phace - Close Second This clip is mixed into Phace - Freedom of Filth which is also a wicked tune! Noisia & Phace - Program Icicle - Dreadnaught Genotype - Upload Crisis Hybris - Keeping Me Pessimist - Niche This tune sounds like the soundtrack to an alien invasion. that horn at the drop... Enei, Eastcolors & Noel- Cracker Marcus Intalex & S.P.Y - Triband Data - Abstractions (June Miller Remix) Ed:it - Replicants Skeptical - Sphere Rockwell - BTKRSH Rockwell is putting out some pretty interesting stuff as well, I like the direction hes going in! What do you guys reckon?
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LouietheCuban posted:same. I got into jungle when I was in 5th grade. I started off my dnb listening experience with lemon d, dj hype, and dillinja. SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRzFdqFNQEg OOOH poo poo!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPcV6adSCBc James Blake - Limit To Your Love ( Lynx remix )
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Even if all you guys think Netsky's generic or whatever, I still consider his album one of my favorite DNB albums of the past couple years and think it'd be a great introduction for anyone who wants to get into the liquid/Hospital side of drum & bass vv You know what though? If someone were just now getting into Drum & Bass, I'd rather their gateway be Netsky than Pendulum (No, I'm not a bandwagon hater of them, I used to listen to them for a little while back in '07 'cause people were hyping them like mad for some reason, and then their jig was up with me. I honestly believe they're crap.) You know what? gently caress it, We'll settle this on Friday; the theme? "Set Up a gateway 5". Who's in?
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# ? Feb 23, 2011 08:19 |
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Riot.EXE posted:You know what though? If someone were just now getting into Drum & Bass, I'd rather their gateway be Netsky than Pendulum (No, I'm not a bandwagon hater of them, I used to listen to them for a little while back in '07 'cause people were hyping them like mad for some reason, and then their jig was up with me. I honestly believe they're crap.) Definitely. Can we include albums as a single entry?
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# ? Feb 23, 2011 13:32 |
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Although I find the use of "gateway" in this context extremely pretentious and denigrating (), count me in. I'll just post five tunes that got me into the genre, so the list'll be a couple of years old but that shouldn't matter.
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Riot.EXE posted:You know what? gently caress it, We'll settle this on Friday; the theme? "Set Up a gateway 5". Who's in? In. Should it be five of our own gateways, or five that we'd give someone new to the genre? Anae posted:Definitely. Can we include albums as a single entry? I'd include albums, personally. I've definitely suggested albums / compilations in the past.
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SUBFRIES posted:I'd include albums, personally. I've definitely suggested albums / compilations in the past. I'm definitely up for this, we should include mixes as well!
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# ? Feb 23, 2011 15:17 |
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Oh yeah, here is a live mix from a few weekends ago, myself b2b with Resonance, at an event in DC. Harry Ransom vs. Resonance - 'Live at EXBC vs. Dirtbox Radio' [12-FEB-2011] Download: http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/www.expansionbroadcast.com/podcast/exbc0308_2011-02-12_harry_ransom_and_resonance.mp3 Stream: http://www.expansionbroadcast.com/podcast/308/ I started off the set, and at one point I did mess up mixing out of one of Resonance's tunes early on, the whole place was drunk and just bouncing around.
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SUBFRIES posted:In. Should it be five of our own gateways, or five that we'd give someone new to the genre? 5 tracks that we'd use to introduce someone new to the Genre. I already made SEVEN loving MIX CD's for that one friend of mine I mentioned before that insists that Pendulum is the greatest thing to happen to Drum & Bass and is the best example of it, so...yeah. Extra albums and/or Mixes are completely optional.
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Riot.EXE posted:You know what though? If someone were just now getting into Drum & Bass, I'd rather their gateway be Netsky than Pendulum (No, I'm not a bandwagon hater of them, I used to listen to them for a little while back in '07 'cause people were hyping them like mad for some reason, and then their jig was up with me. I honestly believe they're crap.) Totally in. I'm interested in seeing how a lot of you all got into the genre in the first place as well as seeing how you'd bring others in. This should be fun. Also, while I have some abrasive things to say about Netsky, it mostly coming from a DJ's perspective. If people really like Netsky's album, more power to them. It's not BAD music whatsoever. I guess my frustrations with the whole thing exist because there is a very solid line between "dnb for the heads" and "dnb for the masses."
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# ? Feb 23, 2011 20:14 |
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I'd join in the gateway 5 but I think I've already posted all the tracks that got me hooked on the genre / that I'd recommend to others looking to get into D&B in the OP and various other posts in this thread
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# ? Feb 23, 2011 20:24 |
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Drum and bass has been around for about 19 years now. Been through a lot of changes. Change is just character if the music. At the same time, gently caress the new direction.
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# ? Feb 24, 2011 16:52 |
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is pendulum calling his new stuff drum and bass? or he just exploring every musical option he has with a drum and bass background? i dont want to hate on pendulum because he did have some banging tracks back in the day (kingston vampires), but i dont really think his new album is that drum and bassy to begin with, especially "in silico".
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LouietheCuban posted:is pendulum calling his new stuff drum and bass? or he just exploring every musical option he has with a drum and bass background? Pendulum (which is actually a full band) may have originally done a lot of drum & bass, but they've been putting out breaks tracks for just about as long as dnb. (see: Fasten Your Seatbelts) Hold Your Colour, In Silico, and Immersion are all multi-genre albums (including DnB, Breaks, Dubstep, and House).
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# ? Feb 24, 2011 17:11 |
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The extent of drum & bass in Pendulum's new music is that same drum beat they use in almost every song of theirs. They used to be much more D&B-oriented around the Hold Your Colour era and before, but yeah, chrix is right. That's why there's a separate Pendulum thread. They aren't so much a drum & bass act as they are a multi-genre electronic act. I still love 'em, though, despite them dropping D&B from their repertoire for the most part. They were one of the first few artists to get me into D&B years ago Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Feb 24, 2011 |
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Yeah, the drum loop they use nowadays is there solely to drive the tune rather than be a part of it, hence why they go against one of the fundamental principles of drum and bass. I stand by my post in the other thread that they're essentially alt rock now.
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# ? Feb 24, 2011 18:07 |
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FRIDAY 5 ("How would you introduce peeps to dnb?" Edition) "Sunray 2" - Goldie & J. Majik "Bring it On" - Hive & Keaton "Down to Earth" - Bungle "Los Angeles" - Gridlok "Can't Punish Me" - Dom & Roland
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Ah, the gateway 5! Pendulum - Sounds Of Life https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejBthUhBMy0 Black Sun Empire - Extraction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kuzl1aaL2gg Cyantific ft. Logistics - Flashback https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDprqrlyI9E Nu:Tone - Jet Stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVHmA2FuDhs D Kay - Interlude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMW8bdObksw That D Kay track might not be a great starter track for someone just getting into D&B, since there's no one who cranks out tunes quite like his to check out. There's a ton of similar tunes, sure, but he's got a pretty unique style. It's just been a favorite of mine for years. Individual Soul was in the second batch of D&B albums I got, and I fell head over heels in love with its style. edit: A bonus 6th for if anyone wanting to get into D&B needs to be introduced to High Contrast, which I absolutely believe should happen: High Contrast - Lovesick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfM6X-bv8vA Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Feb 25, 2011 |
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Five of the first tunes I ever listened to and loved, with a couple of restrictions - no Pendulum because they're too obvious, and no listing what other people have already mentioned (I would've chucked Interlude in otherwise): Atlantic Connection - So Me Concord Dawn - Morning Light Logistics - The Trip London Elektricity - Sat Nav Matrix & Futurebound - Universal Truth For the latter two I would also recommend their entire albums, Syncopated City and Universal Truth respectively. Also, RE: D.Kay - Interlude, Barcelona, Platinum, For Love Or Money, All That You Are. Consider that a Freebie Five.
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Riot.EXE posted:FRIDAY 5 ("How would you introduce peeps to dnb?" Edition) Still one of my go-to tunes, as is the flip. This is a tough five for me, I had a whole huge post typed up about what five albums got me in to dnb, but that was 1996. Here we are 15 years later, I guess I would recommend more recent stuff that touched on a lot of different styles:
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SUBFRIES posted:Still one of my go-to tunes, as is the flip. You picked two that I was gonna pick, so I'm just gonna edit your post since it's formatted way nicer than I would have done. Yeah I'm lazy.
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