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Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

StickySweater posted:

Can anyone comment on Anachronox: The Movie, which apparently is the cinematics put together? Worth viewing or should I work through the troubles and try to play the game?

There is so much good stuff the movie leaves out. I really do recommend playing the game, but only with all the patches.

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Hard Clumping
Mar 19, 2008

Y'ALL BREADY
FOR THIS

Crappy Jack posted:

There is so much good stuff the movie leaves out. I really do recommend playing the game, but only with all the patches.

Also, be aware, the \ key introduced in the patches speeds the game up, which helps IMMENSELY in the 500th slow-paced battle or really long elevator ride you have to go through! Remember it's there!

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008

by Fistgrrl

Ben Soosneb posted:

Oops sorry.

Seems like you have to install the build 44, build 45 then build 46 patches. You can't just skip to 46.

That's nothing. If you want to play Mechwarrior: Living Legends,

1. download the downloader
2. use the downloader to download and install the game (0.40)
3. patch to 0.41
4. patch to 0.42
5. patch to 0.43
6. patch to 0.44
...
11. patch to 0.49
12. play game

100% serious. Modders are idiots.

Ben Soosneb
Jun 18, 2009
I downloaded the zip with them all in posted above and the bloody speed up button does nothing. Or I'm being an idiot. Could be the later.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

StickySweater posted:

I'd still do that in real life though. Things would come back pretty quickly, but there would definitely be a pause in the totalitarian nature that is dominant in the Deus Ex universe though.
No way I was gonna create an obvious, gigantic power vacuum. This was my last choice.

StickySweater posted:

Futurist Michael Ruppert has had some success with predicting the 2008 market collapse (although he thought it would happen in 2007, a lot of people did actually).
Ummmm... heh... it did happen in 2007. We put a band-aid over it in 2007 to slow the decline of the stock market, but the real-world effects got off to a running start in 2007.

Sunday Punch posted:

The Helios merge ending leaves one pretty big question mark, is humanity really going to accept an artificial god as its ruler?
It had already begun before you chose an ending. People don't need to know a computer is running the show. The Illuminati and Majestic-12 both intended to rule in secret. Helios could take over their power structures and covertly control the major and minor aspects of order in the world.
Or with enough of obfuscation of its identity, perhaps by creating fleshed-out false identities in corporations, the illuminati, and various non-public positions in government and intelligence or by forging digital communications between any parties it could accomplish anything it wanted without anyone knowing they're directly/indirectly following instructions from a computer. It could expose undesirable political lies in real-time on broadcast media and establish solid candidacy to those it that prefers without subjecting them to the influence of lobbyists, special interest groups, and the need for campaign finance backers. As it reshapes societal norms over time, less and less interference by it would be required to achieve its goals for humanity.

If a golden age could be brought about for all societies and all men became hopeful for their own future, it's interference (even if noticed) would be less suspect. Paranoia in general would decrease. The apparent conditions of your leaders being kind, just, wise, and helping you prosper don't lend themselves to the idea that anyone is conspiring against you.

Helios/Denton 2012 :patriot:

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005

orange lime posted:

That's nothing. If you want to play Mechwarrior: Living Legends,

1. download the downloader
2. use the downloader to download and install the game (0.40)
3. patch to 0.41
4. patch to 0.42
5. patch to 0.43
6. patch to 0.44
...
11. patch to 0.49
12. play game

100% serious. Modders are idiots.
If the patches generally get smaller for less-significant changes, it would save on redundant downloading that would otherwise be required to keep up with the project as updates occur. World of Warcraft's updater does it that way. Sounds like that game needs an automatic-updater. It's really simple to have the program download the same update torrent every time and check to see if you have all of the listed files already and just do your updating on the server end by adding files to that single torrent and keeping everything seeded.

Hard Clumping
Mar 19, 2008

Y'ALL BREADY
FOR THIS

Ben Soosneb posted:

I downloaded the zip with them all in posted above and the bloody speed up button does nothing. Or I'm being an idiot. Could be the later.

Hold it down, brah.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Hogburto posted:

World of Warcraft's updater does it that way.

Kind of. It downloads incremental patches but there are big all inclusive patches if you're too far behind the curve.

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008

by Fistgrrl

Hogburto posted:

If the patches generally get smaller for less-significant changes, it would save on redundant downloading that would otherwise be required to keep up with the project as updates occur. World of Warcraft's updater does it that way. Sounds like that game needs an automatic-updater. It's really simple to have the program download the same update torrent every time and check to see if you have all of the listed files already and just do your updating on the server end by adding files to that single torrent and keeping everything seeded.

It DOES have an automatic updater. You open the updater, and it downloads and installs the game and says "restart updater to continue". You restart it, and it downloads and installs the first patch. Restart to continue, and it downloads and installs the second patch. Restart to continue, and it downloads and installs the third -- and so on ad infinitum. It cannot download them all simultaneously or sequentially, it cannot automatically restart and continue the updates every time, and it never tells you how many patches are required to reach the current version. When downloading the game from zero, there is no option to download an up-to-date build -- only to download 0.40 and follow the horrible patching process.

It is The Worst Updater In The World.

[e] a close second is the system for the Il-2 mod "HSFX", which requires that you download and concatenate eight 512.00 MB files because the modders are apparently stuck using FAT12 file systems or something. And then you have to follow a similar 1.0 -> 1.01 -> 1.02 -> 1.02fix patching process.

orange lime fucked around with this message at 10:09 on Feb 24, 2011

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

StickySweater posted:

Things would come back pretty quickly, but there would definitely be a pause in the totalitarian nature that is dominant in the Deus Ex universe though.

The best (and only good) part of Invisible War is how it pisses all over the people naïve enough to assume this is true. :smith:

StickySweater
Feb 7, 2008
Hey, I said pause, implying temporary.

Stabbey_the_Clown
Sep 21, 2002

Are... are you quite sure you really want to say that?
Taco Defender
I'm still playing the first level for the first time.

I found the Unataco guy who wants to sell me a scope for the crossbow for 700 credits, but I only have 500 (plus, those tranq darts for $60 sound nice. Is it possible to get more credits? Can I sell that pack of cigarettes and chocolate bar? Is the Fire extinguisher past the electrical barrier useful for anything?

Does the Unatco computer inside the crate in the mini-Unatco base do anything, even if I knew the login?

When trying to defuse mines, which is better - rushing up or crouch-walking up? Do gas grenades kill enemies or will they recover if I wait for the gas to dissipate?

On the east side, I spotted two guys just standing there facing each other. I thought they would start a conversation if I got close enough, but I got as close as I dared and nothing.

Hard Clumping
Mar 19, 2008

Y'ALL BREADY
FOR THIS

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

I'm still playing the first level for the first time.

I found the Unataco guy who wants to sell me a scope for the crossbow for 700 credits, but I only have 500 (plus, those tranq darts for $60 sound nice. Is it possible to get more credits? Can I sell that pack of cigarettes and chocolate bar? Is the Fire extinguisher past the electrical barrier useful for anything?

Does the Unatco computer inside the crate in the mini-Unatco base do anything, even if I knew the login?

When trying to defuse mines, which is better - rushing up or crouch-walking up? Do gas grenades kill enemies or will they recover if I wait for the gas to dissipate?

On the east side, I spotted two guys just standing there facing each other. I thought they would start a conversation if I got close enough, but I got as close as I dared and nothing.

1. Don't worry about it, you'll find all that stuff later.

2. There's a login stored on a data cube around there you should use to get on that computer, one of the options on it is to open up a little door in the floor outside that has some supplies in it.

3. I always rush them / Gasgrenades don't kill anybody, they just incapacitate them long enough for you to run past, shoot them, or if you have a hazmat suit, go in and :black101: everybody.

4. Are they right next to the wall in the grass area? Yeah, there should be a conversation there. Try to sneak up right behind them and chill behind that corner, their conversation is pretty cool.

Hard Clumping fucked around with this message at 07:35 on Feb 25, 2011

Cheezymadman
Mar 29, 2010

by Fistgrrl
Gas grenades can kill JC if you stand in one long enough. So they don't "not kill anyone"

Hard Clumping
Mar 19, 2008

Y'ALL BREADY
FOR THIS
Well, JC's a weak bitch for most of the game, so

HoldYourFire
Oct 16, 2006

What's the time? It's DEFCON 1!

Stabbey_the_Clown posted:

On the east side, I spotted two guys just standing there facing each other. I thought they would start a conversation if I got close enough, but I got as close as I dared and nothing.

If one of them is an NSF guy (facemask) and the other guy is a "Mercenary Thug" in a blue longshoreman's outfit, then no, they don't talk to each other.

You can't sell cigarettes or candybars, or pretty much anything really. Maybe Zyme at one point?

And I think fire extinguishers are pretty useless, you can spray people in the face for a laugh though.

CaptainWinky
Jun 13, 2001

HoldYourFire posted:

You can't sell cigarettes or candybars, or pretty much anything really. Maybe Zyme at one point?

And I think fire extinguishers are pretty useless, you can spray people in the face for a laugh though.

You can sell zyme to one guy fairly late in the game. It's not really worth wasting inventory space on, unless you're playing Shifter which makes zyme somewhat useful.

Fire extinguishers are a poor man's pepper spray. Also you can actually use one to put yourself out if some jerk with a flamethrower gets the drop on you.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
Besides your weapon of choice, the only things REALLY worth carrying around are medkits, biocells, multitools and lockpicks. Always keep a single-slot melee weapon around (pref. the baton) for busting open crates and such, unless you keep the DTS (KEEP IT). The rest of the items are best used when found, or left behind. If you have spare space, I'd recommend keeping EMP/Scramble/gas 'nades there, they are always useful.

You do not NEED any item in the game except the nanokey, so just take the stuff you really want. Somebody finished the game without augs, skills or items.

misplaced axon
Sep 23, 2009

Samopsa posted:

Besides your weapon of choice, the only things REALLY worth carrying around are medkits, biocells, multitools and lockpicks. Always keep a single-slot melee weapon around (pref. the baton) for busting open crates and such, unless you keep the DTS (KEEP IT). The rest of the items are best used when found, or left behind. If you have spare space, I'd recommend keeping EMP/Scramble/gas 'nades there, they are always useful.

You do not NEED any item in the game except the nanokey, so just take the stuff you really want. Somebody finished the game without augs, skills or items.

Also LAMs. I think they're more useful than gas grenades, but I'm not the sneaky type.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
Yes, of course! LAMS are always useful. I knew I forgot a grenade type! Explosive weapons are great in DX, they are the best lockpicks.

StickySweater
Feb 7, 2008

CaptainWinky posted:

Fire extinguishers are a poor man's pepper spray. Also you can actually use one to put yourself out if some jerk with a flamethrower gets the drop on you.

Early in the game is acceptable to keep an extinguisher in your inventory for just that reason. Later, you can use the regeneration aug to keep yourself alive as the fire goes out (Wouldn't that mean your skin would keep on burning? Painful).

Samopsa posted:

You do not NEED any item in the game except the nanokey, so just take the stuff you really want. Somebody finished the game without augs, skills or items.

I could see this being done after having played it many times since a lot of the codes and logons have been memorized. I can't imagine the difficulty of playing the game without augs, skills, items in a first playthrough though. Although I'm pretty sure it's possible. If you look long enough or you are clever enough, logons can be found or guessed for most computers in the game... but that would be reeeealy difficult.

Gynovore
Jun 17, 2009

Forget your RoboCoX or your StickyCoX or your EvilCoX, MY CoX has Blinking Bewbs!

WHY IS THIS GAME DEAD?!

CaptainWinky posted:

You can sell zyme to one guy fairly late in the game. It's not really worth wasting inventory space on, unless you're playing Shifter which makes zyme somewhat useful.

Don't worry about money at all. There are maybe a dozen chances to buy stuff, and about half are worthless. (2000 for a hazmat suit? You're too generous!)

CaptainWinky posted:

Fire extinguishers are a poor man's pepper spray. Also you can actually use one to put yourself out if some jerk with a flamethrower gets the drop on you.

Maybe my memory is failing in my old age, but if you're playing vanilla, you meet a foe with a flamethrower only once. Gunther in the cathedral.

Walton Simons
May 16, 2010

ELECTRONIC OLD MEN RUNNING THE WORLD
I'm positive there's one underneath Castle Clinton in a corridor

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008

by Fistgrrl

Walton Simons posted:

I'm positive there's one underneath Castle Clinton in a corridor

Yep. I got torched by that guy on my first playthrough. Also, I think one of the MIBs in Versalife pulls one out if you alert them.

[e] I feel like other possible locations are
- guy at the La Guardia helipad
- guy in the PRCS Wall Cloud near the pump room
- MJ12 trooper on the rooftop of the Hong Kong base

but those may just be napalm canister pickups.

orange lime fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Feb 25, 2011

Wirth1000
May 12, 2010

#essereFerrari

orange lime posted:

Yep. I got torched by that guy on my first playthrough. Also, I think one of the MIBs in Versalife pulls one out if you alert them.

Yeah, there's an MiB in the labs patrolling with a flamethrower. Also an MJ12 guy on the upper part (with the massive hand) patrolling along with another MJ12 with a GEP gun.

Hard Clumping
Mar 19, 2008

Y'ALL BREADY
FOR THIS
There's an NSF agent in the subway at Castle Clinton during the hostage situation with a flamethrower. Lots of guys have flamethrowers i hate them

Dr_Fever
Apr 28, 2008
I got torched just last night by an MJ12 trooper in the catacombs. Seemed like it took FOREVER for the fire to go out.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

CaptainWinky posted:

You can sell zyme to one guy fairly late in the game. It's not really worth wasting inventory space on, unless you're playing Shifter which makes zyme somewhat useful.


I absolutely HAVE to collect every zyme canister in the game so I can sell it to that guy in Paris. Thank god it stacks.

pelswick
Jul 29, 2006

i dont care about report card
I ONLY CARE ABOUT GUITAR
today I learned the land that the UN was built on was donated by John D. Rockefeller.

thanks Deus Ex!

Sam.
Jan 1, 2009

"I thought we had something, Shepard. Something real."
:qq:
The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

404notfound
Mar 5, 2006

stop staring at me

Sam. posted:

The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

Holy gently caress. Holy gently caress.

Mice Everywhere
Sep 7, 2007

I love animal porn! So F* you if you don't accept that!

Sam. posted:

The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

WHAT??

Ho Chi Minh Holiday Inn
Jul 11, 2006

You may not know it yet, but I'm your worst nightmare.

Sam. posted:

The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

No loving way.

Seriously, how is it that this game is going on eleven years old and there's still crazy poo poo like this we don't all know about it?

Babby Sathanas
May 16, 2006

bearbating is now adorable

Sam. posted:

The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

I loving love Deus Ex.

Sunday Punch
Mar 4, 2009

There you are in your home, and the soldiers smash down the door and tell you you're in the middle of World War III. Something's gone wrong with time.
Holy poo poo. This just makes me wonder how much more stuff there is tucked away somewhere that no one has ever found? How many more little features like that that we never knew existed?

orange lime
Jul 24, 2008

by Fistgrrl
What, everyone didn't know you could do that? I used to do it with gas grenades, but it makes sense that the pepper spray works too. I wonder if the fire extinguisher does?

You can also whack the actual laser emitters with a sword and break them. Very easy way around.

KRILLIN IN THE NAME
Mar 25, 2006

:ssj:goku i won't do what u tell me:ssj:


orange lime posted:

What, everyone didn't know you could do that? I used to do it with gas grenades, but it makes sense that the pepper spray works too. I wonder if the fire extinguisher does?

Fire extinguisher definitely does this, I used to collect them just to do it. Never thought to use the pepper spray though.

Underflow
Apr 4, 2008

EGOMET MIHI IGNOSCO

Sam. posted:

The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

:stare: I'll be damned.

30 Second Artbomb
Apr 16, 2006

call the police

Sam. posted:

The fight with Gunther was the only time I used a fire extinguisher. But speaking of pepper spray:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqYCsMpxbJ0

Mind blown.

:stare: Is that just in vanilla, or do I have to mod the game? Because holy gently caress.

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GoldenNugget
Mar 27, 2008
:dukedog:

orange lime posted:

You can also whack the actual laser emitters with a sword and break them. Very easy way around.

I knew you could do this but didn't know about the pepper spray trick. The pepper spray doesn't make much sense though.

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