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MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
The muff'n looks SEXY!

I am definitely not averse to having two pedals, I think I just communicated it poorly. Right now I am guitar -> Pod, I'd like to be guitar -> distortion -> Pod. I would prefer that the distortion be either a modeler, or a box that is capable of a wide variety of tones. It does seem like the muff'n can do a variety of sounds, but I'd have to reach over and change it if I wanted to vary it.

I guess my main frustration is simply how poor the distortion sounds are on the Pod - so while I love the versatility of it, every time I try to play with a distorted tone I just want to die inside. I think I am heading toward a pedal board, to be honest.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

To be honest I recommend it. It feels bad at first because of the space and financial implications, but the sheer versatility of specialisation in each effect really rewards you in the long run.

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Tesseraction posted:

To be honest I recommend it. It feels bad at first because of the space and financial implications, but the sheer versatility of specialisation in each effect really rewards you in the long run.

I agree with this. I was just talking to someone who was using one of those mutli effects things to replace his pedal board and said it was still not as good as real pedals. And the one he was using was supposedly one of the more expensive ones. He switched back to pedals right away. I don't have personal experience with that kind of rig, but I've always figured that when you have one device that does a variety of things each one of those effects will be a watered down version of the individual pedals. I don't think you can get the range of sounds from a modeler as you could get from actual pedals.

As for the prices of pedals. You can get awesome discounts if you buy them used. Most of my pedals were bought pre-owned from people who barely used them. They all work great and look brand new. And I got them for considerably less than the retail prices.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Yeah, all my pedals are pre-owned, and only one of them was still in its packaging. You'll generally find that musicians take care of their poo poo and take care of their own, so finding a good quality deal shouldn't be very hard.

Power_13
Jan 10, 2007

mama mia!
I could do with some help in what I guess boils down to theory.

I have a song in a progression C G Am F. I want to add an intro that's basically the first two verses and bridge in what I guess is a more "bluesy" tone that fits in with the key. I've tried transposing the chords to Am (which makes it Am - Em - F - Dm), but that's too dark - too minor I guess.

I'm not sure even where to start. If someone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

I don't know if it'd work for you but I tried Am E F C and that seemed to fit the mood a bit better. Maybe it's just me, though!

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Power_13 posted:

I could do with some help in what I guess boils down to theory.

I have a song in a progression C G Am F. I want to add an intro that's basically the first two verses and bridge in what I guess is a more "bluesy" tone that fits in with the key. I've tried transposing the chords to Am (which makes it Am - Em - F - Dm), but that's too dark - too minor I guess.

I'm not sure even where to start. If someone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful!

Alternatively try some 7th chords on the progression. It's hard to say; cause I am not totally sure what sound you want.

But that'd be my first try.
Also perhaps some power chord sevenths (R + 7th) palm muted?

I dunno, ideas though.

iloveyouall
Oct 26, 2007
Is there a patch, or is it possible to setup the apc40 controller easily with propellerhead reason 5? I'm still new to controllers and have no problem mapping the buttons myself, but wanted to ask before going that route.

Kabuki Shipoopi
Jun 22, 2007

If I fall, you don't get the head, right? If you lose the head, you're fucked!

iloveyouall posted:

Is there a patch, or is it possible to setup the apc40 controller easily with propellerhead reason 5? I'm still new to controllers and have no problem mapping the buttons myself, but wanted to ask before going that route.

Doesnt Ableton allow for inputs from reason? I haven't messed with both of them together much, but I thought you could at the very least control the Ableton aspect of Reason.

As long as you have the APC40 drivers, Reason should be able to see it and you then should be able to map whatever to whatever in reason on the APC.

I'll test it out and report back once I get a free minute.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Power_13 posted:

I could do with some help in what I guess boils down to theory.

I have a song in a progression C G Am F. I want to add an intro that's basically the first two verses and bridge in what I guess is a more "bluesy" tone that fits in with the key. I've tried transposing the chords to Am (which makes it Am - Em - F - Dm), but that's too dark - too minor I guess.

I'm not sure even where to start. If someone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful!

You could use E major instead from the harmonic or melodic minor (like here), and if you use Dmin7 instead of straight Dmin you get a C note in there to link back into the main progression. And if you want things to sound more bluesy get some 7th chords in there!

Male on Sunday
Apr 2, 2010

by T. Finn

Power_13 posted:

I could do with some help in what I guess boils down to theory.

I have a song in a progression C G Am F. I want to add an intro that's basically the first two verses and bridge in what I guess is a more "bluesy" tone that fits in with the key. I've tried transposing the chords to Am (which makes it Am - Em - F - Dm), but that's too dark - too minor I guess.

I'm not sure even where to start. If someone has any suggestions, I'd be grateful!

Eb7 - D7 - Db7 - C v:shobon:v

Lumi
Apr 26, 2006
I watched the sky.
I'm starting to look into getting a MIDI controller to expand my sound. Ideally I want to get something that's not too big but still somewhat versatile (thinking 49 keys) but also something on the lower end in terms of price since I eventually want to learn how to play proper piano, so I'll splurge more when I get something more serious.

What are some of the important things that I should look for? What other controls on the controller besides the keys would be useful (not going to do anything live with it)? I've seen some that for some reason, just have a USB port and not a MIDI one. That seems to indicate that I'd plug it straight into my computer rather than the MIDI ports on my interface...what differences would it make? Would that be slower in terms of latency since I'm not going through the audio interface? Please recommend me something that fits the bill. :)

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Funnily enough this turned up a page or so back where I asked about and was recommended this guy.

The difference between MIDI ports and USB really isn't much these days - MIDI predates USB and so that's basically why there's both. People generally prefer to use USB these days since there's no harm in doing so. As to the latency, while I can't give you any values I can pretty much assure you that you won't have any noticeable difference one way or another between MIDI ports and USB ports.

Lumi
Apr 26, 2006
I watched the sky.

Tesseraction posted:

Funnily enough this turned up a page or so back where I asked about and was recommended this guy.

The difference between MIDI ports and USB really isn't much these days - MIDI predates USB and so that's basically why there's both. People generally prefer to use USB these days since there's no harm in doing so. As to the latency, while I can't give you any values I can pretty much assure you that you won't have any noticeable difference one way or another between MIDI ports and USB ports.

It seems like it's the same as this one, did you get it/do you like it?
So with the USB you'd go straight to the computer, yes? It just seems that since the audio interface is made specifically for making music, it makes more sense to connect up to there instead of straight to the computer but I can see how it'd make no difference since it's all just signals.

Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.
When I practice guitar technique like doing chromatic runs to help my speed or something and I plan on playing guitar standing up, should I do the practice standing up?

Power_13
Jan 10, 2007

mama mia!
Thanks for the help. After a bit of experimenting with the suggestions, I think I've settled on Am F G E7-E7sus4-some E7 variant with the B note played on the G string (so it moves from 1st fret-2nd fret-4th fret). I'm also going to try to fit the Dmin7 into a bridge or something similar because it fits really well. :)

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Boz0r posted:

When I practice guitar technique like doing chromatic runs to help my speed or something and I plan on playing guitar standing up, should I do the practice standing up?

I find standing is actually more comfortable, but sometimes you just gotta sit to read tabs/sheet easier. It pays to be flexible with this sort of thing. If you're ever gonna perform, you'll want to be able to move around a little bit.

Crudus
Nov 14, 2006

Lumi posted:

It seems like it's the same as this one, did you get it/do you like it?
So with the USB you'd go straight to the computer, yes? It just seems that since the audio interface is made specifically for making music, it makes more sense to connect up to there instead of straight to the computer but I can see how it'd make no difference since it's all just signals.

MIDI is a standard that was established by the music industry when electronic music was becoming a "thing" to make sure that different branded devices were all compatible with each-other, and at its base level, it's just a syntax for messages. A midi message has three "bytes" which each are a number between 0 and 127. Generally, the first byte tells the program or other piece of hardware what type of message it is, such as a note-on or note-off, and the other bytes are for data.

So 001 60 127 for example tells the program or synthesizer to turn on note 60 (middle C) at velocity 127 (max volume).

Because its just a data syntax, there is really no difference between using a MIDI port vs. USB (which are both serial connections), except that nowadays, USB is much much more common. In fact, there even exist MIDI controllers which utilize firewire, and as data transfer continues to evolve, likely controllers will adapt with their available outputs as well. (MIDI will eventually become outdated too, since it is a serial method of communication, meaning that two messages cannot be sent simultaneously - though near enough for our hearing that it doesn't matter. OSC is a syntax being developed which allows for parallel messages, and greater variety in the message syntax, but I don't expect that it will be commonly implemented for another 5 years or so.)

Most MIDI controllers you find (though not all anymore) will have a MIDI out port, but you probably wont use it unless you are linking it with other controllers which use a MIDI port. Additionally, you can get adapters that convert MIDI to USB if you are trying to use old hardware with your computer.

codyclarke
Jan 10, 2006

IDIOT SOUP

Boz0r posted:

When I practice guitar technique like doing chromatic runs to help my speed or something and I plan on playing guitar standing up, should I do the practice standing up?

Sitting, I play with a foot stool and the guitar rested on my left leg. Standing, I have my strap set to a length where it'll be at the exact same place on my body. That way I don't run into any issues where my posture/angle is different. This may not exactly work for you, but it's something to try.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

codyclarke posted:

Sitting, I play with a foot stool and the guitar rested on my left leg. Standing, I have my strap set to a length where it'll be at the exact same place on my body. That way I don't run into any issues where my posture/angle is different. This may not exactly work for you, but it's something to try.

But either way, if you want to be able to play well standing up you need to practice with the guitar in that position. Honestly I'd just stand up for at least some of your practice, your body will be in a different position when you're sitting down and you need to get used to standing with the weight hanging from your shoulders and not locked in place by your leg

Computer Jones
Jun 22, 2005

So, I have a problem: I want to make music my with headphones on sometimes, but I have no easy way of plugging them into my audio interface (M-Audio Audiophile 2496, with just RCA connectors). I guess I could get some sort of RCA->3.5mm adapter, but then I'd have to reach behind my computer every time. Is there some way of routing Ableton's audio out into my onboard sound card, so I can use the headphone jack on my computer?

I was thinking it'd be cool to have something in between my interface and monitors with a volume knob and headphone jack, but all I could find like that was £250 professional controllers like the Mackie Big Knob. Am I going about this the wrong way?

Thanks in advance for reading my not-so-small question :shobon:

Elijah Snow
Dec 10, 2006

some-something man
SO

I have a loving annoying problem with my M-Audio Fast Track II.

I just bought this last week, and I already asked around in school and no one could really tell me what was going on, and I can always return it or trade it for a new one, but I'll still ask it here.

Whether I'm listening to music on Winamp, mp3 or flac or wav, or playing around in Pro Tools, I get a really loving loud NOISE like FFFT every once in a while, and I have no idea what it is. I have the latest drivers (6.0.6), this is a fresh w7 installation on a Pentium Dual-Core E5200 with 2GB RAM, I have set up my computer in accordance with avid recommendations (power management, better performance etc).
I have messed around with the buffer, even up to 2048 it still happens. I have my onboard sound card disabled, I have kept my onboard ethernet card enabled (gotta browse the internet for answers...), and the only other USB device I'm using is the wireless mouse. My headphones work fine with any other equipment, either at home or at school.
This noise is predominant in Protools, so I wonder if it's the m-audio itself that is damaged or malfunctioning on the converters?
I have plugged in my bass, and among the noise I recorded some lose strings, and the wav wasn't affected by any of the FFFFT noise.

Can anyone smarter than me please tell me what the hell am I doing wrong?

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!
I'd like to do some simple electronic drums at an open mic performance. My bassist has an iPhone and reckons there may be some simple drum machine apps we could use. Can anyone recommend some (preferably free)?

CPL593H
Oct 28, 2009

I know what you did last summer, and frankly I am displeased.

Popcorn posted:

I'd like to do some simple electronic drums at an open mic performance. My bassist has an iPhone and reckons there may be some simple drum machine apps we could use. Can anyone recommend some (preferably free)?

You can get a decent used drum machine for 100 dollars or less. I would recommend that over using an iphone app. Unless you want it to sound lovely. Cheap keyboards also have simple drum patterns as well and those are a dime a dozen on Craigslist.

I bought this drum machine used for 90 bucks and you can probably find one around that price online:
http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/mrt3/

It's pretty easy to use.

thunderspanks
Nov 5, 2003

crucify this


Elijah Snow posted:

I have plugged in my bass, and among the noise I recorded some lose strings, and the wav wasn't affected by any of the FFFFT noise.
I don't really understand what you're trying to say here- you are hearing the noise while recording but it's not actually being recorded? Or you are only hearing the noise when you are doing things that are not recording?
What are you using for monitors (speakers)? You mention headphones, have you actually tried using external speakers? (it may be the headphone output)
Is it bus powered or plugged into the wall? Have you tried using a different wall plug if it is in fact plugged in? What sampling rate (44.1 or 48 kHz) is the box using? Have you tried disabling your ethernet adapter? That is something you should absolutely try if you haven't yet, fyi.

edit: welcome to the wonderful world of audio troubleshooting! Also, try using a different USB cable, a different USB port and a non wireless USB mouse, if possible. It's actually quite unlikely that it will solve the problem but you have to eliminate every possibility.

edit2: If it is only happening on playback (winamp or playing back something in pro tools) and not being recorded when you plug your bass in then I'm pretty sure either the D-A converter is borked or your headphone out is the culprit, but that's unlikely if it's only happening on playback. Definitely try using one of the TRS outs on the back, and if it is still an issue I'd say get it exchanged.

thunderspanks fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 3, 2011

Elijah Snow
Dec 10, 2006

some-something man
It's not the headphones, I've been using them for work at school all the time. It's probably the converter, today I borrowed an M-Audio just like mine from a colleague and will be testing it out later. And there are a few things I haven't tried yet, so I'll get on it. Thanks

thunderspanks
Nov 5, 2003

crucify this


Elijah Snow posted:

It's not the headphones, I've been using them for work at school all the time. It's probably the converter, today I borrowed an M-Audio just like mine from a colleague and will be testing it out later. And there are a few things I haven't tried yet, so I'll get on it. Thanks

I wasn't talking about the headphones themselves, you were quite clear on that. I was speaking of the headphone OUTPUT. As in, the jack you plug the headphones into. Try hooking up speakers to the TRS output on the back and see if it is still happening.

Regardless of what's causing the issue you will most likely be better off getting it replaced since it's only 2 weeks old but it's probably not a bad idea to determine exactly where the problem is stemming from.

XYZAB
Jun 29, 2003

HNNNNNGG!!
I can't find a solution to this problem anywhere and it's driving me up the loving wall:

I'm mixing some songs I recorded in Logic 9, each one is ~12 audio tracks plus 4-6 auxiliary tracks, plugins all over the place, and I'm trying to automate some of the function of a plugin in the top track to match the waveform of another. Except, I need to insert nodes into the top two tracks based on a waveform on the 12th track, and I would loving KILL to find out how to drag in a vertical ruler from the side (ala Photoshop) or at least stop the white playhead line from disappearing every time I need to do something. Marquee tool is sort of a workaround I guess, but even that's a fickle bitch. :argh:

TLDR; Matching automation to waveforms, yet I have no vertical line. :derp:

Male on Sunday
Apr 2, 2010

by T. Finn
My mom loves to sing, she's not very good but she's not embarrassingly bad either and really enjoys it so who cares. She's always wanted to sing with a mic, so I thought I'd get her a simple setup for her birthday.

It doesn't have to be very powerful or anything close to studio quality, but it has to be affordable and beyond all simple to use. Could anyone suggest a setup?

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

Popcorn posted:

I'd like to do some simple electronic drums at an open mic performance. My bassist has an iPhone and reckons there may be some simple drum machine apps we could use. Can anyone recommend some (preferably free)?

There are some phenomenal drum machine iOS apps. Check out the InstantDrummer line - http://www.sonomawireworks.com/iphone/instantdrummer/ - or if you really want to program your own stuff from scratch, check out DrumtrackHD - http://the-palm-sound.blogspot.com/2011/02/drumtrackhd-review.html

Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.
I've been trying to develop my ear so I decided to try tabbing songs. I've done my first tab ever and would like to hear what you think, and if you can spot any glaring mistakes I made.

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/h/hot_leg/cocktails_guitar_pro.htm

The tab is of this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLthJnrdEY

I hope it's okay to link to UG, I couldn't find anything in the FAQ about but if it's not, I'll find another place to host it.

Ninja Toast!
Apr 22, 2009

Male on Sunday posted:

My mom loves to sing, she's not very good but she's not embarrassingly bad either and really enjoys it so who cares. She's always wanted to sing with a mic, so I thought I'd get her a simple setup for her birthday.

It doesn't have to be very powerful or anything close to studio quality, but it has to be affordable and beyond all simple to use. Could anyone suggest a setup?

Bought a Blue Yeti USB mic for basic stuff. It's pretty good quality and usb is pretty painfully simple. Using that plus Audacity is probably one of the simplest things.

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Microphones-Yeti-USB-Microphone/dp/B002VA464S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299535670&sr=8-1 Only 101.88 on amazon.

Bunch of cheap stands it can screw onto as well http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_17?url=search-alias%3Dmi&field-keywords=microphone+stands&sprefix=microphone+stands

Male on Sunday
Apr 2, 2010

by T. Finn

Ninja Toast! posted:

Bought a Blue Yeti USB mic for basic stuff. It's pretty good quality and usb is pretty painfully simple. Using that plus Audacity is probably one of the simplest things.

http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Microphones-Yeti-USB-Microphone/dp/B002VA464S/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299535670&sr=8-1 Only 101.88 on amazon.

Bunch of cheap stands it can screw onto as well http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_17?url=search-alias%3Dmi&field-keywords=microphone+stands&sprefix=microphone+stands

I was thinking amplification, not recording, sorry for not making that clear. I.e. something like a cheap mic+amp setup for parties and the like. And it has to be "flip a switch" simple, anything involving computer or complex interfaces is a no go.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

All you need is a microphone and a pre-amp. Any typical microphone will need a pre-amp and an audio output - if you have something that can play sound (like a set of speakers with input or an amplifier) that's one cost out of the way, but you'll probably need a mixer (at the very least) to make a microphone audible in a typical output. Basically, it feels like we're making this obtuse but while it's simple to help you out, we just need to know what you have in terms of between the microphone and the ears. Do you have speakers? If not, do you have something that will take an audio input?

Gym Leader Barack
Oct 31, 2005

Grimey Drawer
A small all-in-one karaoke machine will probably do what you want.

Something like this

I have seen them in places like Target so check out any of the big retail stores and you will probably find something pretty cheap. I can't imagine the quality will be fantastic but at parties I don't think anyone will be picking apart the frequency response of the speakers. Probably available online also, but the other ones I saw included such high-tech features as a 5" black and white CRT screen so they seem to be a little behind the curve technology wise.
A lot of cheap DVD players also have a karaoke mode so plug in a cheap mic and hook it up to a stereo and BAM, instant party machine.

Male on Sunday
Apr 2, 2010

by T. Finn

Tesseraction posted:

All you need is a microphone and a pre-amp. Any typical microphone will need a pre-amp and an audio output - if you have something that can play sound (like a set of speakers with input or an amplifier) that's one cost out of the way, but you'll probably need a mixer (at the very least) to make a microphone audible in a typical output. Basically, it feels like we're making this obtuse but while it's simple to help you out, we just need to know what you have in terms of between the microphone and the ears. Do you have speakers? If not, do you have something that will take an audio input?

An ordinary stereo sound system with an aux in is all that's available. So I could just get a mic and a preamp+mixer and run that through the aux in? Or a combined mixer/preamp?

Male on Sunday
Apr 2, 2010

by T. Finn

RandomCheese posted:

A small all-in-one karaoke machine will probably do what you want.

Something like this

I have seen them in places like Target so check out any of the big retail stores and you will probably find something pretty cheap. I can't imagine the quality will be fantastic but at parties I don't think anyone will be picking apart the frequency response of the speakers. Probably available online also, but the other ones I saw included such high-tech features as a 5" black and white CRT screen so they seem to be a little behind the curve technology wise.
A lot of cheap DVD players also have a karaoke mode so plug in a cheap mic and hook it up to a stereo and BAM, instant party machine.

this could be an option too

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Boz0r posted:

I've been trying to develop my ear so I decided to try tabbing songs. I've done my first tab ever and would like to hear what you think, and if you can spot any glaring mistakes I made.

http://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/h/hot_leg/cocktails_guitar_pro.htm

The tab is of this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLthJnrdEY

I hope it's okay to link to UG, I couldn't find anything in the FAQ about but if it's not, I'll find another place to host it.

You'll probably get more success if you post a normal tab text file to be honest, I'd give it a listen but I don't have Guitar Pro

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
The free program TuxGuitar can read and play those files, I think.

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Boz0r
Sep 7, 2006
The Rocketship in action.

baka kaba posted:

You'll probably get more success if you post a normal tab text file to be honest, I'd give it a listen but I don't have Guitar Pro

I've exported just the solos as the rest of the song is more or less trivial. Check it out:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14233181/cocktails.tab

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