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I think it's safe to say that Lady Gaga is probably not racist against Latinos and Asians but was just struggling for a rhyme for those cultures. I am still unsure about the shoutout for the Lebanese.
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Everyone loves the Lebanese.
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Mar 2, 2011 00:24
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angerbot posted:I think it's safe to say that Lady Gaga is probably not racist against Latinos and Asians but was just struggling for a rhyme for those cultures. C'mon man they never get shoutouts. Also does nobody realize that occident and orient are the olde timey words for east and west?
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Mar 2, 2011 00:27
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As a Lebanese-American I heartily approve of the shout out.
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Mar 2, 2011 00:28
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wraithgar posted:C'mon man they never get shoutouts. If by "olde timey" you mean "French words that are a part of the modern French language", then yes.
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Mar 2, 2011 00:36
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The orient part isn't a pun referring to both Asians and sexual orientation?
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Mar 2, 2011 01:19
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weekly font posted:The orient part isn't a pun referring to both Asians and sexual orientation? Oh man I didn't even think about that, mystery solved.
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Mar 2, 2011 01:36
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I'll listen to it again later but I swear I hear shades of Madonna's Express Yourself in the music.
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Mar 2, 2011 01:41
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Gaga has what she calls her 'Chola Tattoo', it says "Little Monsters" in a ornate script (photo: http://oi51.tinypic.com/2qi3eo8.jpg), so if anything she's using the term fondly.
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Mar 2, 2011 01:54
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WTF was the Chola dynasty?
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Mar 2, 2011 01:55
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Hard hitting political pop anthem, that's what this is.
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Mar 2, 2011 02:47
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chola_Dynasty Yeah I'm pretty sure she was referring to Latinas. new page new gif 
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Mar 2, 2011 02:49
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weekly font posted:The orient part isn't a pun referring to both Asians and sexual orientation?
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Regarding the use of "Orient", here's a helpful wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism#Edward_Said_and_.22Orientalism.22 Basically, the idea is that it refers to the way the West/white people view people of the area (also, as someone said, defining them from the Western point of view). Specifically, the area/people have been portrayed as "exotic" and "barbaric" and have been reduced down to a 1001 Arabian Nights stereotype (think Aladdin), but more recently as "brown people = terorrism and jihad". You never hear many good humanitarian stories coming from the area, do you? It is, at the least, ignorant (along with chola, which I'm sure is not referring to the dynasty) and unfortunate.  ANYWAY, I like the video after letting it sink it and seeing it again. 
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Mar 2, 2011 03:33
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ArmoredBlue posted:Regarding the use of "Orient", here's a helpful wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orientalism#Edward_Said_and_.22Orientalism.22
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Firequirks posted:I've searched through my history and can't find it, but I read an article shortly after the single was released that mentioned the "Lebanese" and "Orient" references. The author pointed to them both being references to their "lesbian" and "orientation" pun counterparts. I had a bit of a smack-my-forehead-duh moment when I read it.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Your Wikipedia link isn't any more valid to this than the other 10 links posted. I didn't see any other links other than the ones abouts cholas, which is a different thing?  quote:I've searched through my history and can't find it, but I read an article shortly after the single was released that mentioned the "Lebanese" and "Orient" references. The author pointed to them both being references to their "lesbian" and "orientation" pun counterparts. I had a bit of a smack-my-forehead-duh moment when I read it. I'm hoping this was the intention, but unfortunately intention is largely irrelevant. I'm kind of surprised she hasn't said anything about it (or perhaps no one's said anything to her about it).
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Mar 2, 2011 06:29
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Gatts posted:I'll listen to it again later but I swear I hear shades of Madonna's Express Yourself in the music. LYRICS: I'm beautiful in my way, 'Cause God makes no mistakes I'm on the right track, baby I was born this way Don't hide yourself in regret, Just love yourself and you're set I'm on the right track, baby I was born this way SOUND LIKE: Express yourself [You've got to make him] Express himself Hey, hey, hey, hey So if you want it right now, make him show you how Express what he's got, oh baby ready or not Express yourself [You've got to make him] So you can respect yourself Hey, hey So if you want it right now, then make him show you how Express what he's got, oh baby ready or not I'm suprised no one else realized that the main verse sounds like "Waterfalls", only up tempo.
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Mar 2, 2011 09:15
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:I've always heard "People are Asian. Things are oriental". The term isn't offensive, but no one refers to Asians as "orientals" any more unless they are old and white.
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Mar 2, 2011 11:17
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When everyone started comparing Born this Way to Express Yourself I for some reason assumed they were talking about the NWA song. That was pretty confusing.
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Mar 2, 2011 11:30
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God dammit, this is my favourite video she's done yet. She's so inspirational to me - it's crazy. As soon as the single hit the radio waves, the first thing I thought of was, 'How is she going to top what she's done before?'
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Mar 2, 2011 12:06
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So I saw The Monster Ball on Monday. She's so amazing.  Everything about it was great, and before telephone, first someone tossed up a stuffed Paul Stanley and a unicorn along with all the Barbies and she said "If you think I'm biting off the head of Paul Stanly you've got another thing coming. I've met Kiss, and Paul is wonderful man. You know, if you're going to worship anyone, worship Kiss" She then proceeded to give Paul and the unicorn a seat.The whole thing was just amazing, and I'd kill to go again.
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Mar 2, 2011 12:45
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Orunitier posted:LYRICS: I noticed it initially as well. Though for me all the similarities have kind of worn off after repeated listens. It's a solid song and stands on it's own. It may borrow a bit but it gives as well. I wish the song had a better bridge, she usually has really neat bridges. I find that most radio pop music these days seems to sound like pieces of past pop songs rearranged into a new song.
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Mar 2, 2011 15:01
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In a half hour [3 pm EST], the Thierry Mugler show will be live streaming, which features 'Government Hooker' and Gaga walking the runway. edit: 45 minutes after it was supposed to start, they're finishing up preparations to actually start the show. Gaga asking for runway walk tips is adorable though. edit2: The Scheiße/Government Hooker/Born This Way remix they used during the runway show was loving flawless. Worth watching the ugly, ugly clothes and poor models tripping from the horrible shoes. 1up fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Mar 2, 2011 |
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Mar 2, 2011 20:32
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I hated the intro to Government Hooker, but then LOVED the rest. Much better than the sheiße remix, and I really liked the sheiße mix.
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Mar 3, 2011 00:06
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I haven't had a chance to see it yet (loving work, loving phone with no flash) but this seriously makes me smile. derekblasberg Please note @LadyGaga's finale caused Anna Wintour to smile, an event I haven't seen since Lee McQueen's They Shoot Horses show in Oct 2003.
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Mar 3, 2011 00:44
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HookShot posted:I hated the intro to Government Hooker, but then LOVED the rest. Much better than the sheiße remix, and I really liked the sheiße mix. Anyone have a link to it? E:NM E2: Good god, I don't know what's uglier, the clothes or the models. Vince MechMahon fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Mar 3, 2011 |
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Mar 3, 2011 01:52
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Here's the first true mashup I've heard of "Born This Way" and "Express Yourself": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0PvggdjkKE&feature=related
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Mar 3, 2011 03:56
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So what is with the Illuminati stuff. Is she just doing it for fun, or is she a believer?
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Dancingthroughlife posted:So what is with the Illuminati stuff. Is she just doing it for fun, or is she a believer?
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Mar 3, 2011 04:23
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Well staying to the very end of the video she even has the gap in tooth like Madonna so I guess I shouldn't have been surprised.
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Heres the link, I don't think it's been posted yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqXSB7glctg&feature=player_embedded Government Hooker is going to be yet another #1 hit. gently caress me this song is awesome.
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Mar 3, 2011 08:49
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I love skull boy out of nowhere. "Some lady paid me to follow her around and look spooky" must be the best job.Neena posted:I haven't had a chance to see it yet (loving work, loving phone with no flash) but this seriously makes me smile. This is kind of hilarious.
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Making Anna Wintour smile is like making a Unicorn cry. Yeah I'm sure it happens, but you'll never see it. I loved The September Issue, Grace Coddington has a RIDICULOUS amount of patience. The photography they toss out is just cringe worthy, all that time spent styling, preparing, setting up the set....and in a second Anna is like "hmmmm........nah"
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somnambulist posted:Heres the link, I don't think it's been posted yet. gently caress me I love fashion sometimes.
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Mar 3, 2011 13:32
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somnambulist posted:Heres the link, I don't think it's been posted yet. Man, some of those models are SO SKINNY. I know it's old hat to bring that up, and I usually love skinny girls, but good lord!
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Mar 3, 2011 15:52
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Crows Turn Off posted:Yeah, that's a good song. The whole point of fashion models is to essentially be walking coat hangers. They're supposed to be bland and disappear into the clothing. That they ever became considered a standard of beauty is a bizarre social fluke more than anything.
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It's a double win for me because I like the new song and the collection  I absolutely love Gaga's hair like that as well. Also her rear end puts all their papery little bottoms to shame.
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is government hooker the song that plays at the beginning of the thierry mugler show? Cause it sounds just like New Order's - blue monday. Intentional?
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I'm glad they found a use for Moria after the Balrog wrecked it. Anyways, that song is pretty badass. I can hear the slight resemblance to Blue Monday which is far from a bad thing for me.
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