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TheRationalRedditor
Jul 17, 2000

WHO ABUSED HIM. WHO ABUSED THE BOY.

Brett824 posted:

http://www.vevo.com/watch/kanye-west/all-of-the-lights/USUV71002949

AotL video. Really loving good.
This is remarkably close to the video I've been seeing in my head for months!!

edit: my imagination was more expensive

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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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In 1992 if you told me we will have a largely unregulated form of communication with an emphasis on audio and video and that they would still be producing edited rap music videos for this medium I would of said you're crazy. No artist would not take advantage to promote the art as it was intended.....

....and yet here we are.

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
This video is kinda... meh. The visuals are, for the most part, really great (a lot owing to influences, I guess). The performances, however, seem really half-assed and almost bored. I've seen better from Kanye.

Rihanna, though. :pervert:

Macrame_God
Sep 1, 2005

The stairs lead down in both directions.

Ha! I saw Enter the Void the first time just last week. It's like Kanye's keeping tabs on what I watch.

:tinfoil:

messagemode1
Jun 9, 2006

the Bunt posted:

Five posts up.

Man I never thought I'd see anything related to Dynamite Headdy ever. What a blast from the past.

AotL was a great song, and the music video is .... ok. The typefaces are neat since they're Enter The Void style but the rest of it was basically just Kanye dancing on a cop car in an alleyway and Rihanna's breasts. Maybe simple is better (if you can call this simple), but I wanted to see a little bit more.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
I like the video a lot, aside from Kid Cudi's part. I just love lots of flashing colored lights though. and Rihanna looks especially hot.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



So I take it Watch The Throne won't be out in two weeks?

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

SafetyDancer posted:

I'm glad they took out the worst part of the song for the video.

This. Fergie's part is the only bit on the entire album I don't actually like.

Great video, and my god is Rihanna hot.

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
Yeah what the hell is happening with watch the throne?

Also is Lupe's new album really that bad? I'd ask the hip hop thread but I have a feeling that if it's not BASED GOD or some super obscure guy being talked about I'd get chased out of the thread :(

Brett824
Mar 30, 2009

I could let these dreamkillers kill my self esteem or use the arrogance as the steam to follow my dream

teacup posted:

Yeah what the hell is happening with watch the throne?

Also is Lupe's new album really that bad? I'd ask the hip hop thread but I have a feeling that if it's not BASED GOD or some super obscure guy being talked about I'd get chased out of the thread :(

Most of the tracks are really passable and the lyricism and flow are still great. People are hating because it's different and they think he hates it even though that's kind of a misquote.

The songs All Black Everything and Never Forget You have become two of my favorite Lupe tracks, and I really dig the general panafricanist theme across a bunch of the songs. The club/dance tracks blow though.

e: Also Kanye said MBDTF was supposed to be out like 7 months before it actually came out, I wouldn't hold my breath for WTT.

Brett824 fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Mar 2, 2011

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =
hm I might check out a bit on youtube or something before buying it then, thanks :)

I wish Kanye would just shut the gently caress up with release dates as well. Remember around new years he basically said WTT would be out in full the next week? Then HAM didn't even come out that soon. I know not to get my hopes up but it's just too annoying :( I want more Kanye :(

Molestationary Store
May 21, 2007

I've learned over the years to not trust hip hop release dates. When you see it on the racks it's out and that's going to happen sometime after the given ate but not nessecarily on. When's that Helter Skelter Dre and Cube team up LP coming again? :v:

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist
A few months later, and I'm --- not regretting, but second-guessing my decision to buy the album on vinyl. I just never listen to it: most every song is pretty high-rated in my digital library, but it's a pretty drat wearying album to take in all in one sitting.

I think I've only spun the entire thing, beginning to end, over the three platters three or four times since I bought it. Compare this to Big Boi's album, which gets dragged out about once every two weeks or so.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

The Modern Leper posted:

Compare this to Big Boi's album, which gets dragged out about once every two weeks or so.

That album is loving dope and shamefully underrated.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



The Modern Leper posted:

A few months later, and I'm --- not regretting, but second-guessing my decision to buy the album on vinyl. I just never listen to it: most every song is pretty high-rated in my digital library, but it's a pretty drat wearying album to take in all in one sitting.

I think I've only spun the entire thing, beginning to end, over the three platters three or four times since I bought it. Compare this to Big Boi's album, which gets dragged out about once every two weeks or so.

I would listen to it much, much more myself if it wasn't spread out on 3 discs. The fact that two sides have one song each doesn't help.

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

The Modern Leper posted:

A few months later, and I'm --- not regretting, but second-guessing my decision to buy the album on vinyl. I just never listen to it: most every song is pretty high-rated in my digital library, but it's a pretty drat wearying album to take in all in one sitting.

I think I've only spun the entire thing, beginning to end, over the three platters three or four times since I bought it. Compare this to Big Boi's album, which gets dragged out about once every two weeks or so.

Hmm. Interesting perspective. I bought both on CD, but only listen to each as mp3s in genera;, and I *much* more often put on MBDTF and listen to it all the way through - fairly regularly, still, actually - as opposed to the Big Boi album, which I'll occasionally put on shuffle, and then mostly skip to the four or five songs I like most.

Final Fart Buttball
Jun 24, 2005
I love this album and I think it's great, but I'm starting to wonder if anyone who thought the album was perfect out of 10 towards the end of last year have changed their tune any. Genuine curiosity here, not looking down on anyone

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

-Atom- posted:

This. Fergie's part is the only bit on the entire album I don't actually like.

Great video, and my god is Rihanna hot.

"...Rihanna looking so insanely hot that the only reference point I can think of is the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark." - What It Feels Like to Be Kanye West is What It Feels Like to Be American, Sunny Biswas, The Awl.

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist

Final Fart Buttball posted:

I love this album and I think it's great, but I'm starting to wonder if anyone who thought the album was perfect out of 10 towards the end of last year have changed their tune any. Genuine curiosity here, not looking down on anyone

Stereogum doesn't really do "formal" reviews, but they revisited their original opinion of the album within a month of naming it the best album of 2010.

http://stereogum.com/613292/double-take-kanye-west-my-beautiful-dark-twisted-fantasy/top-stories/lead-story/

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



I went to watch the All Of The Lights video on youtube, and they actually have added an epilepsy warning to the start of it.

The Cosby Mysteries
Oct 5, 2007

Happy Birthday, Mr. President
Will anything on the way of official instrumentals ever come out from MBDTF? Specifically, 'So Appalled' or 'Devil In A New Dress'?

jngshin
Feb 16, 2005

by Ozmaugh
One thing that really irks me about this album is that he separated Lost in the World and the "Who Will Survive" performance.

It seems that originally, Who Will Survive was suppose to transition from Lost in the World (as it does on the Good Friday release). Try it out yourself, you'll see the transition is incredibly smooth and just works a thousand times better for both tracks.

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

jngshin posted:

One thing that really irks me about this album is that he separated Lost in the World and the "Who Will Survive" performance.

It seems that originally, Who Will Survive was suppose to transition from Lost in the World (as it does on the Good Friday release). Try it out yourself, you'll see the transition is incredibly smooth and just works a thousand times better for both tracks.

Ha, "try it out yourself." Don't people ever listen to full albums anymore? Of course it transitions really well, and you get that transition if you just listen to the album in order, which is how I always do if I'm not going for a specific single.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

jngshin posted:

One thing that really irks me about this album is that he separated Lost in the World and the "Who Will Survive" performance.

It seems that originally, Who Will Survive was suppose to transition from Lost in the World (as it does on the Good Friday release). Try it out yourself, you'll see the transition is incredibly smooth and just works a thousand times better for both tracks.

Wait, what?
They're two consecutive tracks, they blend fine.

the Bunt
Sep 24, 2007

YOUR GOLDEN MAGNETIC LIGHT
I do wish they were just on the same track though.

Role Play McMurphy
Jul 15, 2010

jngshin posted:

One thing that really irks me about this album is that he separated Lost in the World and the "Who Will Survive" performance.

It seems that originally, Who Will Survive was suppose to transition from Lost in the World (as it does on the Good Friday release). Try it out yourself, you'll see the transition is incredibly smooth and just works a thousand times better for both tracks.

lost in the world wasnt on good friday and there is an obviously intended transition on the album

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist

Role Play McMurphy posted:

lost in the world wasnt on good friday and there is an obviously intended transition on the album

People need to stop writing reviews based on mediafire downloads.

trigger9631
Nov 18, 2004

I love my ducks.

Final Fart Buttball posted:

I love this album and I think it's great, but I'm starting to wonder if anyone who thought the album was perfect out of 10 towards the end of last year have changed their tune any. Genuine curiosity here, not looking down on anyone

I continue to trot it out every couple of weeks and still enjoy it immensely. The first nine songs are fantastic. However, Blame Game and Hell of a Life are by far the low points of the album for me and are both too long. Still one of my favorite albums ever.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



trigger9631 posted:

I continue to trot it out every couple of weeks and still enjoy it immensely. The first nine songs are fantastic. However, Blame Game and Hell of a Life are by far the low points of the album for me and are both too long. Still one of my favorite albums ever.

I love both of those songs. They do both go on a bit too long though, especially Blame Game. They should have cut down (or totally removed) the entire thing with Chris Rock at the end of Blame Game. I think Devil In A New Dress has the same problem too. But I still like the album more every time I listen to it.

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

TheJoker138 posted:

I love both of those songs. They do both go on a bit too long though, especially Blame Game. They should have cut down (or totally removed) the entire thing with Chris Rock at the end of Blame Game. I think Devil In A New Dress has the same problem too. But I still like the album more every time I listen to it.

I seem to be the only person who has no problem listening to the whole Chris Rock thing every time. And I still listen to the whole album straight through (sometimes minus Devil in a New Dress and Runaway) pretty often, all things considered. Devil in a New Dress gets my vote as most forgettable song of the album, and I'm just not all that into actually listening to Runaway, though I know it's absolutely central thematically. Recently I've finally started sitting through it on the album listens.

I think a lot of people misinterpret both Blame Game and Hell of a Life. My take: “Hell of a Life” is a song about a fantasy of not loving but *marrying* a porn star, and as such is more broadly about the idea of collapsing the barriers between fantasy and reality, both as something that many people can do, unconsciously, in a negative way, and something that legitimately and literally occurs at the extremes of fame and wealth. And “Blame Game” is about the utter collapse of a relationship with massive piles of fault on both ends, probably inspired by but not literally about Kanye’s own relationship with Amber Rose. In that case, it’s necessarily from the dude’s point of view, and so that dudely bitterness fully vented in the Chris Rock bit... which, I think, is a choice that shows Kanye knows how ridiculous, how humorous at full remove, the bitterness is. That Chris Rock bit is essential to making it clear that the song is an *exaggeration*. And I don't have a problem with actually listening to it - I think it sounds fine and like part of the song - which I guess some people don't.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



onefish posted:

“Hell of a Life” is a song about a fantasy of not loving but *marrying* a porn star, and as such is more broadly about the idea of collapsing the barriers between fantasy and reality, both as something that many people can do, unconsciously, in a negative way, and something that legitimately and literally occurs at the extremes of fame and wealth.

Hell Of A Life is simultaneously about both just loving a porn star and marrying one. In reality, he is doing nothing but loving her in the bathroom ("married in the bathroom, honey moon on the dance floor, got divorced at the end of the night"), but is fantasizing about what actually marrying her would be like.

NeuroticErotica
Sep 9, 2003

Perform sex? Uh uh, I don't think I'm up to a performance, but I'll rehearse with you...

Hell of a Life is about how after the Swift incident he was shunned and everybody was publicly against him, but in their private lives they'd still listen to him. People wouldn't admit to it, thus he was treated like people treat porn stars.

Blame Game is about his dysfunctional relationship with the music industry. They both hated each other, but they really couldn't get along without each other.

janklow
Sep 28, 2001

whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent.

onefish posted:

I seem to be the only person who has no problem listening to the whole Chris Rock thing every time.
you're not. actually, i also agree with you on this point:

onefish posted:

Devil in a New Dress gets my vote as most forgettable song of the album-
it's the only track i have to make an effort to listen to when i listen to the album.

Final Fart Buttball
Jun 24, 2005

NeuroticErotica posted:

Hell of a Life is about how after the Swift incident he was shunned and everybody was publicly against him, but in their private lives they'd still listen to him. People wouldn't admit to it, thus he was treated like people treat porn stars.

Blame Game is about his dysfunctional relationship with the music industry. They both hated each other, but they really couldn't get along without each other.

What has Kanye said about Hell of a Life specifically, cause I don't hear this and I'm confused trying to hear it. If it really is partially about that, only a few lines in the song might be about that

I'm not hearing much of what you said about Blame Game either. Cause the entire last part of the song is definitely referring to Amber Rose, like, without a shadow of a doubt. You could claim it's a double metaphor I guess if you really wanted to?

@ other guys:

I think Devil in a New Dress is the best song on the album. You didn't make the :stare: face when you heard that beat ?

Final Fart Buttball fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Mar 30, 2011

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Final Fart Buttball posted:

I think Devil in a New Dress is the best song on the album. You didn't make the :stare: face when you heard that beat ?

Woody Allen once said of orgasms "even the worst one I ever had was right on the money." I feel that way about this album. It's the worst (read: my least favorite) track on the album, but I still love it. Yeah, I would have made it a bit shorter, but I don't actively avoid it or anything. In fact, this album is one of maybe half a dozen albums that when I listen to it, I listen to it. I hardly ever just pick out one or two songs from it, I just put it on from track one and go all the way through.

On a different topic, Kanye said that he's going to have a new album (not Watch the Throne) dropping this Summer. Before this album, he never had one that really stood out to me. I liked the singles, and a few of the other tracks, but none of them had the level of impact that Fantasy did. So I'm really, really hoping he's able to maintain the level of polish this album had, but the fact that it's coming so soon after this worries me. Am I alone in this?

teacup
Dec 20, 2006

= M I L K E R S =

TheJoker138 posted:

On a different topic, Kanye said that he's going to have a new album (not Watch the Throne) dropping this Summer. Before this album, he never had one that really stood out to me. I liked the singles, and a few of the other tracks, but none of them had the level of impact that Fantasy did. So I'm really, really hoping he's able to maintain the level of polish this album had, but the fact that it's coming so soon after this worries me. Am I alone in this?

Considering that you never liked his other albums that everyone else spazzes out over I think you're more or less alone in this :P

I also don't believe for one second he has another album coming out this summer. He also said Watch the Throne would be a 5 track EP consisting of the Power Remix, So Appalled and possibly Monster at one point, then he promised it would be out early january as a full album, then what? HAM came out and... nothing. In fact the same series of tweets where he said he'd have his new album this summer was on January 24th, it was like 3 tweets and it was

WATCH THE THRONE 2 MONTHS
MY NEW ALBUM THIS SUMMER
ALL OF THE LIGHTS VIDEO NEXT WEEK


The video debuted almost a full month later, Watch the Throne clearly isn't here yet and has no signs of being here anytime soon (it's already been two months!) soooo the new album I predict will be late late this year if at all in 2011.

I don't even care that all his poo poo is delayed but I just wish he wouldn't say it was coming then not say anything :( I mean I remember around new years he was like yeah watch the throne is next week, clearly he knew that was wrong :(

Baron Patsy
Apr 9, 2006

I'M SPECIAL DAMMIT
devil in a new dress is a loving fantastic track and ross's verse rules

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



NeuroticErotica posted:

Hell of a Life is about how after the Swift incident he was shunned and everybody was publicly against him, but in their private lives they'd still listen to him. People wouldn't admit to it, thus he was treated like people treat porn stars.

Blame Game is about his dysfunctional relationship with the music industry. They both hated each other, but they really couldn't get along without each other.

Apparently Taylor Swift wrote a song about the Kanye incident too. Anyone know which one it is, I'd love to see her "oh scary black man made the poor white girl feel awkward woe is me" lyrics.

troll for dollars
Jan 10, 2005

weekly font posted:

Apparently Taylor Swift wrote a song about the Kanye incident too. Anyone know which one it is, I'd love to see her "oh scary black man made the poor white girl feel awkward woe is me" lyrics.

Isn't that "Innocent"?

"It's okay, life is a tough crowd
32 and still growin' up now
Who you are is not what you did
You're still an innocent"

So on and so forth.

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TheYellowFog
Oct 17, 2008

grain alcohol and rainwater
Devil in a New Dress beat owns so hard that it will probably be sampled for years. J Cole did it before the album even came out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUisSCjvO-M

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