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That doesn't make either guy look good. My favourite HHH story was about where a bunch of wrestlers were at an airport. Mike Sanders was being used as a colour guy in HWA and there was talk of bringing him up to the WWE. He was shaking everyones hand and didn't see Triple H, who was sitting down with a leg injury. He got up, walked over to Sanders with his crutches and shook Sanders hand. When Trips sat back down, Raven leaned into Sanders and told him that was a kiss of death for him. A few weeks later, Sanders was released.
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Wojtek posted:Face Miz who still is crafty and cheats to win would be great. Super Miz would be poo poo. The way they had him in the tag team match could work.
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Lone Rogue posted:That doesn't make either guy look good.
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:RVD is a sloppy egotist with a drug problem, in 2003 or any other time. Seriously?
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Mar 3, 2011 03:19
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Wojtek posted:That...just makes RVD look like a chump. Yeah if anything that reminds me of Steiner's  story about steroid testing.Steiner: They were worried I was doing steroids because of that giant blinking neon sign I'd purchased to be carried around behind me saying,"I'M DOING loving STEROIDS!" so they said I had to take a steroid test, I told them I'd take one if Triple H took one with me heh guess I showed those assholes! takes more steroids.
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Lone Rogue posted:That doesn't make either guy look good. Wiki posted:With no plans to bring him up to the main roster due to an incident where Triple H introduced himself backstage and Sanders failed to respond with the proper etiquette, Sanders was released by the WWE on July 19, 2002, along with Jason Jett, Race Steele, Steve Bradley and Jason Sugarman. Still a weird situation though.
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Mar 3, 2011 03:24
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Any reason why Wrestlemania 16 wasn't held in a bigger venue? I'm guessing the general public was just as into WWF as it was then compared to when Wrestlemania 17 came around. 19,776 attendane at 16 vs 67,925 at 17 is quite the difference when it comes to ticket revenue.
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Mar 3, 2011 03:24
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warbrides posted:Any reason why Wrestlemania 16 wasn't held in a bigger venue? I'm guessing the general public was just as into WWF as it was then compared to when Wrestlemania 17 came around. They were holding Wrestlemania in arenas in the late 90s and didn't decide they could run a Stadium until later on. Remember, in the early 90s they failed to sell enough seats to run the LA Coliseum, and had to heavily paper in Indy the next year before going back to arena sized venues. Wrestlemania was not as entrenched as it is today either. When they chose the WM 2000 venue they weren't even a full year past pulling ahead in the ratings war either so it would be a bigger risk at that point vs when it actually happened in 2000.
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Mar 3, 2011 03:33
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Few pages back but:Mr. Carlisle posted:I bet at the time Triple H thought that his entrance was gonna go down in history as the most badass entrance to an event ever. I remember the thread's reactions was a mixture of  +  +  Also WM2000's choice of venue problem wasn't the size of the venue, but rather choosing the Arrowhead Pond/Honda Center/Whatever it is, because it always has terrible, dead as poo poo crowds. Nut Bunnies fucked around with this message at 03:42 on Mar 3, 2011 |
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Jack Krauser posted:Wiki says differently: I always recalled it being in an airport and Raven informing Sanders to be ready for a release.
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Mar 3, 2011 03:40
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Jerusalem posted:Yeah if anything that reminds me of Steiner's How dare Steiner suggest that Triple H may also do drugs? Dude, I don't get what you're saying here. Steiner was pointing out the double standard, not claiming he wasn't on 'roids. And if you think Triple H wasn't doing SOMETHING in '02, then you may need to see an optometrist.
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Mar 3, 2011 03:43
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From memory, Steiner (at the time at least) was strenuously denying he did any roids and that his grossly overinflated steroid-pulsing muscles were purely natural. That story is one I've heard where he seems to be operating on this bizarre muddled line where he is simultaneously proud of getting away with all the steroids he is on/thinks he has made some masterful Machiavellian play that has left his opponents utterly flummoxed/seems to believe he ISN'T on steroids but other people (like Triple H) are and the tests will prove him right and leave everybody gaping in wonder. I'm sure what actually happened is that somebody made that call, he made that demand and the reaction by WWE was,"Oh gently caress it, let's run out his contract and just get rid of the guy he's more trouble than he's worth." Edit: For clarity, my story has NOTHING to do with Triple H and doing drugs, AT ALL. I absolutely believe he was bathing in roids at the time (Steiner was swimming in a pool made of them inside a house made out of steroids), but that isn't what this is about at all. I'm not talking about a double standard, I'm talking about Steiner believing that pointing it out was somehow going to force them to allow him to get away with crap too, like a high school student who points out a teacher smoked weed at home so he should be allowed to blaze up in Home Room so suck it up, teach, you can't do poo poo about it!
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Mar 3, 2011 03:48
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I bet at the time Triple H thought that his entrance was gonna go down in history as the most badass entrance to an event ever. I was there live and the reaction at first was confusion as we tried to figure out what was going on. Then when people found out it was Triple H it was a pretty good pop. I'll always remember some guy yelling "WHAT THE gently caress!? WHO BOOKED CONAN!?"
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Mar 3, 2011 03:49
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Gaz-L posted:How dare Steiner suggest that Triple H may also do drugs? Pretty much. It would be different if RVD said, "I was out doing dope while you were juicing against rules." Instead, it's Steiner pointing out a clear double standard in the WWE when it comes to Triple H. That same double standard could be used about Vince. The Steiner story reminds me more of Vince saying he had to continue Over the Edge after Owen Hart died and Bret asking him if he'd have continued if Shane McMahon been the one who fell.
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Jerusalem posted:From memory, Steiner (at the time at least) was strenuously denying he did any roids and that his grossly overinflated steroid-pulsing muscles were purely natural. That story is one I've heard where he seems to be operating on this bizarre muddled line where he is simultaneously proud of getting away with all the steroids he is on/thinks he has made some masterful Machiavellian play that has left his opponents utterly flummoxed/seems to believe he ISN'T on steroids but other people (like Triple H) are and the tests will prove him right and leave everybody gaping in wonder. I'm not seeing how Steiner is the jerk here. He's a jerk for a lot of other reasons, sure, and is an idiot and probably has more HGH than red blood cells at the moment. And he certainly hasn't been shy or demure about this incident. Doesn't make him wrong. He called their bluff. If they test Steiner alone, they can fire him for drug violation. If they test both guys, and they both come back positive, they either let both guys off, which negates the point. They let Hunter off, explicitly showing the double standard, which looks bad. Or they fire both guys, which they don't want.
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Yes but I honestly don't believe that Steiner's intention was to point out a double standard, I genuinely believe it was to go,"Nah nah nah I'm doing steroids and you can't do anything about it!" and that he was then proud that he got to get away with continuing to do steroids. That's what I find funny, that he brought up the story for (what I believe to be) the purpose of showing how he was doing steroids and nobody could do anything about it. The double-standard he exposes is an unrelated factor. Either that or that he is so genuinely crazy that he really thought he wasn't doing steroids (or HGH or whatever).
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Jerusalem posted:Either that or that he is so genuinely crazy that he really thought he wasn't doing steroids (or HGH or whatever). "THERE'S A 114 1/4% CHANCE SOMEONE ELSE PUT THIS NEEDLE IN MY rear end CHEEK!"
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Mar 3, 2011 04:20
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Jerusalem posted:Yes but I honestly don't believe that Steiner's intention was to point out a double standard, I genuinely believe it was to go,"Nah nah nah I'm doing steroids and you can't do anything about it!" and that he was then proud that he got to get away with continuing to do steroids. That's what I find funny, that he brought up the story for (what I believe to be) the purpose of showing how he was doing steroids and nobody could do anything about it. The double-standard he exposes is an unrelated factor.
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Mar 3, 2011 04:30
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Were there ever any reports that before the aneurysm, Steamboat was supposed to have Bret's spot in the Nexus 7 on 7? He was also a legend with a bone to pick with Nexus, and could work infinitely better. And you a good chance to put over the unity of team WWE by having Chris Jericho rescue Steamboat.
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Well I guess we just took different things away from it, then. However in regards to Steiner not being an idiot.... he DID do this to himself!
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Mar 3, 2011 04:42
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I heard Primo's theme song is really funny. Does anyone have a translation?
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Jerusalem posted:Well I guess we just took different things away from it, then. I like the strategic use of tattoos and chain mail to disguise his caved in chest. I really like Scott Steiner as a personality but how anyone can look like that and think they look good is beyond me.
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Mar 3, 2011 04:59
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89 posted:This has to be a joke. There is a huge difference between being a pot smoker and being somebody like....Jeff Hardy. Or Road Dogg, X-Pac, or Scott Hall. Marijuana isn't a hard drug and WWE doesn't even outright fire people over it, but if you get busted for speeding with a car full of dope and basically your reputation is "dope guy" you have a drug problem.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JEwix2mYuU&feature=player_detailpage#t=3m35s is this vince russo
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Matlock posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JEwix2mYuU&feature=player_detailpage#t=3m35s No. Vince Russo is a person, not a video game.
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So I listened to a Shelton Benjamin interview the other day and by the sounds of it he was a really prominent part of WWE as a mid carder during the time I wasn't watching. Keeping in mind that my Shelton Benjamin experience is limited to the ladder match he had with Christian at TLC and MitB earlier that year can someone please recommend some of his better matches from any promotion? There also seemed to be a lot of buzz about his role in 'The World's Greatest Tag Team' particularly their matches with the King's of Wrestling who I've never seen wrestle either, is there a stand out match between the two teams?
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Sue Denim posted:Keeping in mind that my Shelton Benjamin experience is limited to the ladder match he had with Christian at TLC and MitB earlier that year can someone please recommend some of his better matches from any promotion? You want to watch every MitB that Shelton was in (21, 22, 24, 25, 26) plus any instance in which he has a ladder. I can't speak for the World's Greatest Tag Team outside of WWE, but they put on some really great matches in 03-04 as WGTT and before that as Team Angle. There was a really good handicap tag at No Way Out 03 with them and Angle vs. Brock Lesnar and Benoit.
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Sue Denim posted:So I listened to a Shelton Benjamin interview the other day and by the sounds of it he was a really prominent part of WWE as a mid carder during the time I wasn't watching. Probably Shelton's best singles match in the WWE was his match with HBK during the Gold Rush tournament in '05. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaumcOlCanA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3gg3osK0lU Shelton was also one of the feature staples on Money in the Bank matches, missing only Wrestlemania 23 during his tenure in the company. The WGTT is him and Haas and they debuted as a tag team working as Kurt Angle's understudies, more or less, as Team Angle, they eventually broke off from Kurt and called themselves the World's Greatest Tag Team and were active from 2002-2004 and were then split. Then in 2006 they reunited for another two years and had sporadic reunions afterward until they were fired. They reunited again on the independent scene and faced the Kings of Wrestling at ROH's Glory by Honor IX iPPV last year and had a rematch at ROH's LA show in January. They are to have the rubber match and this time for the ROH World Tag titles on the first of two ROH iPPVs that take place on Wrestlemania weekend, on Friday and Saturday respectively. Their Glory By Honor IX match was very good, but you'll have to purchase the DVD or iPPV replay to watch it. Their LA rematch is not out on DVD yet, but it should be out soon. I believe people said it was also very good, but not quite as good as the GBHIX match. Their next rematch is sure to be equally great, probably better since the titles will be on the line.
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El Duke posted:No. Vince Russo is a person, not a video game. But seriously, the guy in the Marlboro shirt looks like Vic Venom.
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Sue Denim posted:So I listened to a Shelton Benjamin interview the other day and by the sounds of it he was a really prominent part of WWE as a mid carder during the time I wasn't watching. The WGTT ROH matches are pretty good.
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Sue Denim posted:So I listened to a Shelton Benjamin interview the other day and by the sounds of it he was a really prominent part of WWE as a mid carder during the time I wasn't watching.
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El Duke posted:No. Vince Russo is a person, not a video game.
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Sue Denim posted:So I listened to a Shelton Benjamin interview the other day and by the sounds of it he was a really prominent part of WWE as a mid carder during the time I wasn't watching. WGTT have a pretty drat good ladder match that was supposed to be against Los Guerreros, but Chavo got injured and Eddie named Tajiri as his replacement. It was at Judgement Day 03, if I recall correctly. Lots of fun spots, great finish.
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Sue Denim posted:So I listened to a Shelton Benjamin interview the other day and by the sounds of it he was a really prominent part of WWE as a mid carder during the time I wasn't watching. WGTT vs Tajiri/Eddie ladder match. Tajiri rules so hard.
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The only worthwhile thing to come out of the WWE World's Greatest Tag Team reunion in '07 was this match.
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Mar 3, 2011 14:47
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Tonfa posted:The only worthwhile thing to come out of the WWE World's Greatest Tag Team reunion in '07 was this match. I liked them as Team Angle, way back in the day.
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What was going on with the finish of the Bret/Backlund "I Quit" match at Wrestlemania XI? During the buildup they made a point of saying that you had to make your opponent "say the words I Quit into a microphone." For the finish, Bret put Backlund in the chicken wing, then Backlund kinda just grunts "aaaaahhhhh.... ugggghhh.... yeeeaah" into the mic and that was it.
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Minidust posted:What was going on with the finish of the Bret/Backlund "I Quit" match at Wrestlemania XI? During the buildup they made a point of saying that you had to make your opponent "say the words I Quit into a microphone." For the finish, Bret put Backlund in the chicken wing, then Backlund kinda just grunts "aaaaahhhhh.... ugggghhh.... yeeeaah" into the mic and that was it. At Survivor Series 94, Bret was in the crossface and Owen convinced Helen to throw in the towel, ending the match. The emphasis on saying the words was to prevent the same thing from happening again. I think it ended quick because it was a dead feud that pretty much nobody gave a poo poo about anymore by the time it happened. Truther Vandross fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Mar 3, 2011 |
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Dragging Iron Feet posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUqBTKRXScc This match has everything including a spot that's memorable and worthwhile. And the best part is they continued that for their rematch like years down the line.
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Gatts posted:This match has everything including a spot that's memorable and worthwhile. And the best part is they continued that for their rematch like years down the line. Is that match available on any of the WWE DVDs?
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