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movax
Aug 30, 2008

NeonTurtle posted:

About the Imperial Fleet getting hosed at Endor, I always figured the Star Destroyers had pulled in close to the Death Star II and were caught in the explosion. I'm not sure why they were pulled in close to the Death Star, but I seem to recall seeing a couple Star Destroyers hanging around the Executor when it started the nosedive towards the Death Star.

IIRC, they were in a shepherding/ring formation to herd the Rebels in towards DS2. I am willing to buy the Emperor's battle meditation explanation for their sudden falling apart, and the greed and avarice of individual commanders to the fracturing of the Fleet.

I mean, you're a Captain and you have 1.6km and 37,000 crew members under your command in one of the most powerful warships in the galaxy. What the gently caress do you do?

(again, :spergin: complaint about scale and having to take care of 37,000 people and keep them not mutinying)

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Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Powered Descent posted:

Oldie but a goodie: Stormtroopers' 9-11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV7Ha3VDbzE

e: better link.

I always preferred Prime's version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCqFQNUSxDY

Der Luftwaffle
Dec 29, 2008
I just finished reading Death Troopers. A Star Wars/Halo crossover was the last thing I'd think anyone would ever do but they went and did it anyways.

And the scariest thing is that I didn't hate it.

Slantedfloors
Apr 29, 2008

Wait, What?

movax posted:

(again, :spergin: complaint about scale and having to take care of 37,000 people and keep them not mutinying)

:spergin: It was mostly Grand Admirals and Moffs that became Warlords, so they each already had their own territories for supplies. The exception to this is, of course Zsinj, who didn't need to start off with anything more than a Victory-class Star Destroyer. Because Zsinj ain't no goddamn little bitch who needs actual resources to try and conquer the galaxy.


Pictured: Not A Bitch

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

RedTeam posted:

If the 3d dosen't look like rear end I can't see why not. I can't really see why though either...
Money, dear boy!

Argas
Jan 13, 2008
SRW Fanatic




Slantedfloors posted:

:spergin: It was mostly Grand Admirals and Moffs that became Warlords, so they each already had their own territories for supplies. The exception to this is, of course Zsinj, who didn't need to start off with anything more than a Victory-class Star Destroyer. Because Zsinj ain't no goddamn little bitch who needs actual resources to try and conquer the galaxy.


Pictured: Not A Bitch

Nah, Zsinj only had a Victory as his first command, the original Iron Fist. When he became a warlord, he had more.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Wampa Stompa

Decius
Oct 14, 2005

Ramrod XTreme

RedTeam posted:

If the 3d dosen't look like rear end I can't see why not. I can't really see why though either...

Something not filmed with 3D-cameras, but "upconverted" to 3D pretty much always looks like rear end. It's the recoloured B/W-movie of our time.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Wampa Stompa
I just love trying to enter cheat codes with both hands and my nose.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

3d TPM announcement posted:

and with a keen eye for [...] artistic intentions

"We looked everywhere, we really did, but there just doesn't seem to be any!"

deadguy
Apr 23, 2007

Hello Bob

Decius posted:

Something not filmed with 3D-cameras, but "upconverted" to 3D pretty much always looks like rear end. It's the recoloured B/W-movie of our time.

It's just gonna be a bunch of stupid poo poo like Jar Jar's tongue coming out of the screen.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Decius posted:

Something not filmed with 3D-cameras, but "upconverted" to 3D pretty much always looks like rear end. It's the recoloured B/W-movie of our time.

As someone who paid $15 + the cost of snacks to watch Clash of the Titans in 3D, I can assure you that you are correct.

I can't wait for Jar Jar's flatulence to be in 3D.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

Decius posted:

Something not filmed with 3D-cameras, but "upconverted" to 3D pretty much always looks like rear end. It's the recoloured B/W-movie of our time.

To be fair, very few actual sets and actors are used in TPM, and most of the computer graphics could probably be made 3D fairly easily.

Captain von Trapp
Jan 23, 2006

I don't like it, and I'm sorry I ever had anything to do with it.

BonHair posted:

To be fair, very few actual sets and actors are used in TPM, and most of the computer graphics could probably be made 3D fairly easily.

Really TPM did have a lot of sets. AOTC and ROTS were both basically computer-animated films, but you can tell that a much higher percentage is "real" in the first prequel.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Star War Sex Parrot posted:

Wampa Stompa

I could never get that one to work, the most complicated cheat code ever.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

SeanBeansShako posted:

Will Yoda look just as bad in this one too? that is my question.

NGL posted:

I'm pretty sure he's being replaced with the more accurate looking digital model.


People always complain about Jar-Jar, Jake Lloyd, midi-chlorians, etc. when talking about TPM, but I was - somehow - able to overlook all that when I saw it for the first time in the theatre. I was not able, however, to overlook how the new Yoda puppet barely looked like Yoda at all, and how he sounded like a mildly distressed old lady with his continuous exclamations of "Oh!" This is one of those rare instances where putting CGI in is actually a really good idea (even if making a new puppet that does in fact resemble OT Yoda would be better still).

Muppetjedi
Mar 17, 2010
I for one is actually looking forward to watching Anakin getting burned alive in 3D.

Magic
May 18, 2004

Your ass is on my platter, snapperhead!

Sombrerotron posted:

People always complain about Jar-Jar, Jake Lloyd, midi-chlorians, etc. when talking about TPM, but I was - somehow - able to overlook all that when I saw it for the first time in the theatre. I was not able, however, to overlook how the new Yoda puppet barely looked like Yoda at all, and how he sounded like a mildly distressed old lady with his continuous exclamations of "Oh!" This is one of those rare instances where putting CGI in is actually a really good idea (even if making a new puppet that does in fact resemble OT Yoda would be better still).
I've never liked that scene in (I think) ROTS where Yoda's on Kashyrkfurryhairballworld, there's a very exaggerated shot of his weary face and a dramatic sigh. It's completely overblown and doesn't serve to do much. It's like they were saying :siren: HEY ACADEMY, IF YOU WANT TO GIVE US AN AWARD FOR THE C.G, THIS IS THE ONE SCENE TO PAY ATTENTION TO. :siren:

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

I already got a sneak peek trailer at Star Wars 3D! Get your 3D specs!

Phantom Menace 3D trailer! In Youtube 3D!

I made it back when they were announced, figure it's relevant again now that we have a date

NeonTurtle
Sep 24, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT SUPPORTING GENOCIDE

Kazy posted:

I already got a sneak peek trailer at Star Wars 3D! Get your 3D specs!

Phantom Menace 3D trailer! In Youtube 3D!

I made it back when they were announced, figure it's relevant again now that we have a date

I wish I had a pair of 3-d glasses around here.

RedTeam
Feb 5, 2011

SHAZAM!
Was given The Complete Vader as a (really very) late Christmas present last night. It's this amazing big coffee table book that's got all sorts of stuff on pretty much everything Star Wars. Costume and set design, product design, video games, choreography, a bunch of fold out fascimiles of production notes... it's going to keep me occupied for quite a while. I'll post anything that seems particularly interesting :)

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Casimir Radon posted:

I just love trying to enter cheat codes with both hands and my nose.

Man gently caress that debug code for Shadows of the Empire, that poo poo was ridiculous. Wampa Stompa :argh: For those who have not had the pleasure,

GameFAQs posted:

Start a new game on Medium difficulty. Call it .Wampa..Stompa (Case sensitive). Start in a level and as soon as it starts press pause. Now press and hold all at once C up, C right, C down, C left, L, R, Z and Left on the d-pad. While holding these down gently move the control stick left halfway, and hold all this until you hear a sound. Do the same thing with the joystick facing right, then left, right and finally left. Make sure you keep the other buttons held down during this time.
If it worked pink writing will come up, and using L, R and A you can select cheats such as 50 lives, wall ghost, next level, gravity, jump power etc. To make the menu reappear each time you go back to the pause screen C up, C right, C down, C left, L, R, Z and Left on the d-pad.

@Argas: Zsinj as written by Allston is one of my favorite villains, he's actually fairly competent but is more than happy to put forth the facade of being a bumbling buffoon for his enemies. He's loving devious.

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice

movax posted:

@Argas: Zsinj as written by Allston is one of my favorite villains, he's actually fairly competent but is more than happy to put forth the facade of being a bumbling buffoon for his enemies. He's loving devious.

You actually kind of feel for the guy too, when Solo's forces are on to his tricks and nothing he's trying is working and his enemies are closing in around him.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
So is it ever explored why Bothans are these supposed master spies? Everything I've heard regarding them paints them as a universally reviled species you wouldn't let near your secret spaceburger recipe. In my mind the only way they would ever be effective in a covert operation is if "Bothan Spy Tactics" is a Rebel joke that involves hiring a dozen of the things to try to deliver a package to an Imperial base. Then as the guards viciously beat the ugly bastards to death the real spies and thieves can just walk in the front door.

VROOM VROOM
Jun 8, 2005

Razorwired posted:

In my mind the only way they would ever be effective in a covert operation is if "Bothan Spy Tactics" is a Rebel joke that involves hiring a dozen of the things to try to deliver a package to an Imperial base. Then as the guards viciously beat the ugly bastards to death the real spies and thieves can just walk in the front door.

Mon Mothma posted:

Many Bothans died to bring us this information.
Well there you go.

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

Razorwired posted:

So is it ever explored why Bothans are these supposed master spies? Everything I've heard regarding them paints them as a universally reviled species you wouldn't let near your secret spaceburger recipe. In my mind the only way they would ever be effective in a covert operation is if "Bothan Spy Tactics" is a Rebel joke that involves hiring a dozen of the things to try to deliver a package to an Imperial base. Then as the guards viciously beat the ugly bastards to death the real spies and thieves can just walk in the front door.

The line, "many Bothans died to bring us this information" would be ten times better in retrospect.

E:f;b

Slantedfloors
Apr 29, 2008

Wait, What?

Mooktastical posted:

The line, "many Bothans died to bring us this information" would be ten times better in retrospect.

E:f;b
"In retrospect, we probably should have stopped doing dry runs after the first six or seven times"

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Maybe Bothans smell awful and nobody with a vague sense of smell can be anywhere near them when they do spy stuff.

Many of them died because Stormtroopers had some glade plug ins for their helmets.

that awful man
Feb 18, 2007

YOSPOS, bitch

Razorwired posted:

So is it ever explored why Bothans are these supposed master spies? Everything I've heard regarding them paints them as a universally reviled species you wouldn't let near your secret spaceburger recipe. In my mind the only way they would ever be effective in a covert operation is if "Bothan Spy Tactics" is a Rebel joke that involves hiring a dozen of the things to try to deliver a package to an Imperial base. Then as the guards viciously beat the ugly bastards to death the real spies and thieves can just walk in the front door.

It's because the EU is poo poo. It started with a throwaway line from Return of the Jedi: "Many Bothans died to bring us this information." Now, if you want to come up with a backstory for this, there are many sensible possibilities to choose from. Here are the first three that popped into my mind:
  • The Bothans are members of some sort of political organization that is part of the Rebel Alliance. (In this case, they could not be a distinct species as they would have to blend in with the general public.)
  • "Bothan" could be a rank within the Rebel spy corps. Of course, all the ranks we do hear of are mundane, like "commander" or "general", but in a universe with "Jedi" knights, it could fit in.
  • The Bothans were being used for slave labor by the Empire and repaid them by stealing their precious plans and handing them over to the Rebels. (In this case, they could be a distinctive-looking species.)

Of course, there's also a retarded possibility:
  • The Bothans are a distinct species with a very distinct look and not only are all of them spies, but they have a well-known reputation for being spies.

The EU being the EU, there could never have been any doubt how this would turn out.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

Razorwired posted:

So is it ever explored why Bothans are these supposed master spies? Everything I've heard regarding them paints them as a universally reviled species you wouldn't let near your secret spaceburger recipe. In my mind the only way they would ever be effective in a covert operation is if "Bothan Spy Tactics" is a Rebel joke that involves hiring a dozen of the things to try to deliver a package to an Imperial base. Then as the guards viciously beat the ugly bastards to death the real spies and thieves can just walk in the front door.

I like to think that Mon Mothma was referring to "Manny Boffins" - a human spy.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Razorwired posted:

So is it ever explored why Bothans are these supposed master spies? Everything I've heard regarding them paints them as a universally reviled species you wouldn't let near your secret spaceburger recipe.
A better question would be why were the rebels the only schmucks dumb enough to trust them with anything? Was it ever explained how the Imperials knew an attack was coming on the DS2? I bet it was all because of those drat Bothans.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Kung Food posted:

A better question would be why were the rebels the only schmucks dumb enough to trust them with anything? Was it ever explained how the Imperials knew an attack was coming on the DS2? I bet it was all because of those drat Bothans.
The Emperor let Dash Rendar find a computer with all the poo poo on it.

omgLerkHat!
Dec 7, 2003

Kung Food posted:

A better question would be why were the rebels the only schmucks dumb enough to trust them with anything? Was it ever explained how the Imperials knew an attack was coming on the DS2? I bet it was all because of those drat Bothans.

The Emperor let the rebels steal the plans so he could draw their entire fleet and its leaders into an ambush when they tried to destroy it. He mentions this in the movie.

NeonTurtle
Sep 24, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT SUPPORTING GENOCIDE

omgLerkHat! posted:

The Emperor let the rebels steal the plans so he could draw their entire fleet and its leaders into an ambush when they tried to destroy it. He mentions this in the movie.

Which allowed one author, I can't remember which, to bitch about the "bothans=spies" thing by having a character complain that the Bothans won't shut the gently caress up about getting the Death Star plans, even though the Emperor gave the plans to them to support his awesome trap.

Tensokuu
May 21, 2010

Somehow, the boy just isn't very buoyant.
That's mentioned in the X-Wing novels for sure.

movax
Aug 30, 2008

Tensokuu posted:

That's mentioned in the X-Wing novels for sure.

Yeah, Corran quips about that in the first book I think. "Emepror let them steal the plans, yet they wear the deception like a band of honors". The Bothans frequently mention "the martyrs" in reverence too :stare:

They're just in the books to be the species where characters you're supposed to hate come from. Like in Dark Force Rising, you just want to punch Fey'la in the face (like most of the books he is in)

TheBigBad
Feb 28, 2004

Madness is rare in individuals, but in groups, parties, nations and ages it is the rule.

Jerk McJerkface posted:

wow tpm in 3d i cant wait...

You guys realize you do not have to go see it if you don't want to right?

Mooktastical
Jan 8, 2008

TheBigBad posted:

You guys realize you do not have to go see it if you don't want to right?

I am 100% sure he was being sarcastic there. I know I won't be giving up hard earned :10bux: for it.

Faerunner
Dec 31, 2007

TheBigBad posted:

You guys realize you do not have to go see it if you don't want to right?

Hi George

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Astribulus
Apr 20, 2004
That's the second largest duck I've ever had in my pants. - Guybrush Threepwood

TheBigBad posted:

You guys realize you do not have to go see it if you don't want to right?

Are you certain? Past precedence states that each new incarnation of Star Wars becomes the one true revised standard. Any and all "inferior" copies are disavowed by Lucas and relegated to non-anamorphic laserdisc rips at best. Once established, George will try his hardest to make 3D Star Wars the only Star Wars.

I didn't have any reason to purchase the special editions either until the extras discs became the only way to replace my over watched, worn out VHS copies of the originals.

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