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projecthalaxy posted:Has the UFC ever had a big post-match brawl like Mayhem vs Stockton in Strikeforce or Hammer House vs Chute Boxe in Pride? The Paul Daley incident was pretty bad.
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The Paul Daley thing wasn't really close. Daley struck Koscheck after the bell and Dan Miragliotta immediately pulled him off. Compare that to when Shogun broke his arm after Coleman's takedown attempt and both camps immediately rushed into the ring, not even in the same league.
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Xguard86 posted:force everyone to wear a gi and guard will become far more exciting. You'd see a lot more throws too. 
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1st AD posted:The Paul Daley thing wasn't really close. Daley struck Koscheck after the bell and Dan Miragliotta immediately pulled him off, shouting "Are you serious, man?"
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projecthalaxy posted:Has the UFC ever had a big post-match brawl like Mayhem vs Stockton in Strikeforce or Hammer House vs Chute Boxe in Pride? The closest the UFC has come was at UFC 45 when Cabbage Correira beat Tank Abbot due to a cut, and did his dance in the center of the octagon. Mr. Abbot's corner was not pleased, Cabbage flipped them off, then everyone stormed into the cage.
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I think in his early days Tito almost got into brawls with the dudes from the Lions den quite a few times, can't remember who he knocked out with a slam but when he flipped off the double birds Shamrock and co were loving livid and had to be restrained.
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BlindSite posted:I think in his early days Tito almost got into brawls with the dudes from the Lions den quite a few times, can't remember who he knocked out with a slam but when he flipped off the double birds Shamrock and co were loving livid and had to be restrained. He knocked Evan Tanner out with a slam. I remember that being the event he wore a really arrogant shirt (maybe an anti-Lion's Den shirt) while giving a post match interview about what a great, humble guy he is and all of his charity work. I remember flipping off the Lion's Den (and corresponding shirt) occurring at a different event, maybe the Mezger fight.
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Quodio Stotes posted:Hey Coitus_Interreptus, do you mind if I use your post on page 8 about Kakuda in another SAS thread? Sorry to get back so late but no go ahead
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MassRayPer posted:He knocked Evan Tanner out with a slam. I remember that being the event he wore a really arrogant shirt (maybe an anti-Lion's Den shirt) while giving a post match interview about what a great, humble guy he is and all of his charity work. I remember flipping off the Lion's Den (and corresponding shirt) occurring at a different event, maybe the Mezger fight. "Gay Metzger is my Bitch" shirt, then he broke out the middle fingers and Ken was scrambling to get over the cage. He was in Metzger's corner.
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Around the UFC 87 mark (really vague, I'm sorry, it might have been in the 70s) there was a really weird fight. I don't remember much about the other fighter, but one was a pretty tall, rake thin Japanese fighter. He did almost nothing in the fight, except block punches with his face, I think he only would have thrown about three punches, all of which landed and staggered the other guy. He seemed to show absolutely no interest in the fight or pressing his shots. Unsurprisingly, he lost the decision. I was wondering A. If you remembered the fight, and B. If there was a story behind his \/ \/ \/ That sounds about right, I'll check it out, thanks man. Snowman_McK fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Mar 3, 2011 |
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I think it's K-Taro vs. Emerson. I'd chalk it up to Emerson actually being a decent striker and K-Taro having a hard time cutting to 155 since he fights at welterweight now.
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Can anyone think of a good example of an A-league or B-league round that should legitimately be scored a 10-7? Basically, I want to see how badly someone can get beaten up for a whole round without the fight being stopped. I can't think of any examples that couldn't be argued are 10-8.
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I suppose you could have a 10-8 round in which the loser also scored a significant foul.
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Mar 5, 2011 02:52
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They didn't score ten point must in PRIDE but I'm pretty sure the first round of Igor Vovchanchyn v Enson Inoue qualifies for 10-as low as you want to go
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You can just watch Sengoku and pretend they don't use the 10 point scale liberally.
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moww posted:Can anyone think of a good example of an A-league or B-league round that should legitimately be scored a 10-7? Basically, I want to see how badly someone can get beaten up for a whole round without the fight being stopped. I can't think of any examples that couldn't be argued are 10-8. Sammy Morgan/Forrest Petz at UFC Fight Night 6 had a judge score it 30-23. It was an unaired prelim, though.
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I wonder what the scorecards were for the first round of Cyborg/Finney.
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1st AD posted:I wonder what the scorecards were for the first round of Cyborg/Finney. I scored it 10-holy god someone stop this fight.
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What counts as a "heavy strike" for the purpose of scoring? Can body shots/leg kicks?
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Maha posted:What counts as a "heavy strike" for the purpose of scoring? Can body shots/leg kicks? Watch a Nick Diaz fight. The answer to your question is the opposite of whatever you see.
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Haraksha posted:Watch a Nick Diaz fight. The answer to your question is the opposite of whatever you see. 
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Nick Diaz throws pretty hard punches to the body. I think he threw one that crumpled Scott Smith before he got on top and choked him out.
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1st AD posted:Nick Diaz throws pretty hard punches to the body. I think he threw one that crumpled Scott Smith before he got on top and choked him out. Yeah, I know. I was making a joke because people on this forum love to talk about Nick's human being punches.
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To all the boxing people: Is there a consensual #1 American heavyweight right now? I know of the Klitschkos and David Haye but I've heard literally nothing about any American heavyweight boxers.
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you mean consensus. i hope. i really hope.
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Maha posted:What counts as a "heavy strike" for the purpose of scoring? Can body shots/leg kicks? I assume that you are talking about the stats that they show in between rounds for strikeforce. Those are compiled by a company called Compustrike and have no bearing on the judges whatsoever. For whatever reason, promoters think that showing the audience stats helps legitimize the sports and make it more accessible. They aren't meaningful. It's literally just a dude cageside with a clicker who decides when a strike counts and how important it is. The stats are pretty much always wrong.
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Foul Fowl posted:To all the boxing people: Is there a consensual #1 American heavyweight right now? I know of the Klitschkos and David Haye but I've heard literally nothing about any American heavyweight boxers. James Toney.
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Foul Fowl posted:To all the boxing people: Is there a consensual #1 American heavyweight right now? I know of the Klitschkos and David Haye but I've heard literally nothing about any American heavyweight boxers. fat eddie chambers after getting ktfo fake edit: im serious
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Gomi Pile posted:you mean consensus. i hope. i really hope. consensus is a noun, consensual is an adjective
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mobn posted:consensus is a noun, consensual is an adjective 1) "consensus #1" is a commonly used phrase in combat sports 2) "consensual" is an adjective that means "by mutual consent", not "by consensus" which is what he was trying to express 3) Shut up mobn
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RobBorer posted:I assume that you are talking about the stats that they show in between rounds for strikeforce. Actually the rules make a technically important distinction between heavy strikes and normal ones in terms of what it takes to win a round. I don't think they actually say what the difference between the two strikes is, but the most important judging criterion is determined by counting the total number of heavy strikes and seeing who landed more. In practice, that's often impossible for one judge to do with no outside help while also considering all the other things that are going on in a fight. If you assume that a judge has legitimate competitive combat experience, it's safe to say that he can decide who won on effective striking just by getting an impression of the fight. Unless leg kicks are involved.
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Sorry yes I meant by consensus, thanks for the answers and the semantics lesson.
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fatherdog posted:1) "consensus #1" is a commonly used phrase in combat sports *dead* @ this being in the Q&A thread
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mobn posted:consensus is a noun, consensual is an adjective thanks for clearing that up. helpful as always.
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fatherdog posted:1) "consensus #1" is a commonly used phrase in combat sports http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensual shockingly, words have multiple meanings. "consensual: chosen by the mutual consent of all involved". In this scenario, a person being declared the number 1 fighter by the consent of all people in the discussion, making him the the consensual #1 fighter. I'm aware that people use consensus all the time in combat sports, but the guy wasn't incorrect in his usage of the word consensual, and that's all I was pointing out.
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a consensus is made consensually by the consent of all parties
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mobn posted:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensual "mutual consent of all involved" is not the same as "consensus", which means "general agreement" of a group. In this case the distinction is meaningful because "mutual consent of all involved" would be unanimous agreement, whereas "consensus" just means general agreement. Which means that there can be a consensus #1 heavyweight when there isn't a consensual #1 heavyweight. Also nobody uses "consensual" in that fashion. Also shut up mobn.
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I can't believe they gave us our own forum.
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Elmo Oxygen posted:I can't believe they gave us our own forum. It's funny, too, because I can rarely tell which MMA thread I'm reading. It's all sort of one big conversation. I guess it used to be that way even when there were just a couple of threads in SAS.
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moww posted:Actually the rules make a technically important distinction between heavy strikes and normal ones in terms of what it takes to win a round. I don't think they actually say what the difference between the two strikes is, but the most important judging criterion is determined by counting the total number of heavy strikes and seeing who landed more. Yeah, this is what I had in mind. I think this is a UFC thing, too.
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