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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Chim posted:

is government hooker the song that plays at the beginning of the thierry mugler show? Cause it sounds just like New Order's - blue monday. Intentional?

All of them are remixes in the show, so that's not even the real Government Hooker. Also, I don't really hear the similarity.

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Dancingthroughlife
Dec 15, 2009

Will dance for cupcakes
Anyone have a high-res screenshot of her holding the machine gun up to her body? With her arm bent and looking awesome?

Neena
May 11, 2007

No male will ever handle my massive CoX!
Wait, I meant boobs! Wait!
FISTS, Shit!

Dancingthroughlife posted:

Anyone have a high-res screenshot of her holding the machine gun up to her body? With her arm bent and looking awesome?

There are some here http://tirederable.com/caps/bornthisway/gallery.php?page=3

Dancingthroughlife
Dec 15, 2009

Will dance for cupcakes
Thank you very much, you're awesome!

miss_chaos
Apr 7, 2006
Gaga singing with 10 year Maria Aragon (of Youtube 'Born This Way' cover fame) at Monsterball Toronto.

Gaga posted a photo of herself with Maria on Facebook where she was wearing a white tee with Maria's face on the front, and got Maria to sign it for her. Such a sweet thing to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEB3nnIsAmQ

This is a really sweet interview too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Hj1KxgOJY

miss_chaos fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Mar 5, 2011

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

miss_chaos posted:

Gaga singing with 10 year Maria Aragon (of Youtube 'Born This Way' cover fame) at Monsterball Toronto.

Gaga posted a photo of herself with Maria on Facebook where she was wearing a white tee with Maria's face on the front, and got Maria to sign it for her. Such a sweet thing to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEB3nnIsAmQ

This is a really sweet interview too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Hj1KxgOJY

I have to say that interview alone made me like Gaga even more.

Dancingthroughlife
Dec 15, 2009

Will dance for cupcakes

miss_chaos posted:

Gaga singing with 10 year Maria Aragon (of Youtube 'Born This Way' cover fame) at Monsterball Toronto.

Gaga posted a photo of herself with Maria on Facebook where she was wearing a white tee with Maria's face on the front, and got Maria to sign it for her. Such a sweet thing to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEB3nnIsAmQ

This is a really sweet interview too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Hj1KxgOJY
:3: That's adorable, thanks for sharing!

tudabee
Jan 1, 2007

How many times must I remind you to WASH YOUR HANDS?

miss_chaos posted:

Gaga singing with 10 year Maria Aragon (of Youtube 'Born This Way' cover fame) at Monsterball Toronto.

Gaga posted a photo of herself with Maria on Facebook where she was wearing a white tee with Maria's face on the front, and got Maria to sign it for her. Such a sweet thing to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEB3nnIsAmQ

This is a really sweet interview too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4Hj1KxgOJY

Gaga's such a swell gal. :3:

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate
http://www.metroweekly.com/poliglot/2011/03/lady-gaga-and-target-end-deal.html

Don't know if this is real but apparently Target and Gaga ended their deal. Sucks!

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



Maybe it is just me but it will be interesting to see if this somehow colors Target as "actively" anti-gay rights.

SpecialAgentCooper
Sep 15, 2008

Where we're from, the birds sing a pretty song, and there's always music in the air.
Boston show was loving nuts. Born This Way was the encore and it was really awesome live but it really makes me excited for whatever tour replaces the Monster Ball. Also Scissor Sisters were a great opener and WAY better than Semi-Precious Weapons.

Teron D Amun
Oct 9, 2010

speaking of "Born this way", Vigilant Citizen had a new article up about it:


Lady Gaga’s “Born This Way” – The Illuminati Manifesto

Lady Gaga’s single “Born This Way” introduces the viewers to the birth of a “new race” and to a new world, using intricate imagery and a precise narrative. It is a psychedelic trip filled with occult and archetypal symbols, telling the story of a cosmic birth and new ideals. However, behind its outward message of acceptance, a more sinister message lies embedded in the symbolism of the video. We will look at the underlying meaning of “Born This Way” and analyze the meaning of the occult symbolism in the video.



Lady Gaga is back, y’all. And she’s got horns on her forehead. And she’s in space. And she’s making 90′s dance music. And my head just exploded. But seriously, Born this Way seems to provoke in people two opposite reactions, depending on their knowledge of occult symbolism. It is either “What the heck just happened here?” or “This is really blatant”. The reason is simple. The video contains new strange elements that might confuse viewers but it also contains symbolism that is extremely ancient. Although the video is set in a futuristic, intergalactic world, it deals with the most primal concept of humanity: motherhood. It plays on human’s archetypal fascination and/or repulsion towards the act of giving birth.

Although the lyrics of Born This Way are about unconditional acceptance, with a special focus on homosexuality, the video’s scope goes way beyond the subject of sexual orientation. It narrates the birth of a new race within humanity. Laurieann Gibson, the creative director of the video describes this concept:

“At first, when I thought about birthing a new race and adding the prosthetics, I thought that maybe they should have a certain way they should walk or maybe they move a certain way, but then I realized it is actually a race within our race; it’s a mindset.”
-Source

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Gaga is not giving birth to a human but to a “new race” within humanity. The symbolism of the video makes it clear that this birth is not natural, but artificially provoked. A twisted immaculate conception. As is the case for most Lady Gaga videos, the theme of mind control is important in the video. It is the process through which the metamorphosis will take place. In Monarch programming terms, we are witnessing the birth of a new persona within the “core personality” of humanity. The birth is happening within the minds of people and is visually represented by creepy facial horns.

(If you have not read previous articles on this site, mind control programming is the process through which a handler causes within a subject the “birth” of a new persona that can be programmed at will, through trauma and abuse. It is an actual process used by the CIA – MK-Ultra – and symbolism pertaining to this practice is widely present in popular culture. In the context of the video, the programming does not happen on a single person, but on a mass scale – a new race).

Furthermore, the esoteric imagery in the video describes a world change that is occurring as an alchemical process: The creation of magic through the unification of opposing forces portrayed through the use of archetypal symbols and messages. Yup, we’re still talking about a Lady Gaga video.


The Director

Although Born This Way is considered new and innovative, it is a perfect continuation of the themes exploited by previous Lady Gaga videos. Nick Knight, the director of the video, brings a different look and feel to Gaga’s message, but it remains very “elite friendly”. The fashion photographer is known for his visually dazzling photos and has worked with Alexander McQueen, Calvin Klein, Christian Dior, Kylie Minogue, Gwen Stefani and many others. His past work has also contained allusions to Monarch mind control.



One of director Nick Knight’s most
famous images for Alexander
McQueen. The scar on the mannequin’s
forehead implies “playing with her
head”. The blank stare and the missing
eye (symbolic of Illuminati control)
further accentuate the theme of mind
control in this image.


Knight’s distinctive style in Born This Way was inspired by surrealist painters such as Salvador Dali and Francis Bacon. Let’s look at the video’s symbolism.


The Immaculate Conception

The video begins with the superposition of two evocative symbols:



A unicorn inside an inverted pink triangle.



Pink triangles pointing downwards were used in Nazi concentration camps to denote homosexual men. The same pink triangle pointing upwards has become a symbol of gay pride and gay rights. On an esoteric level, triangles pointing down are archetypal symbols representing the sacred feminine (in opposition to the upwards pointing triangle representing the phallic masculine). The inverted triangle is emblematic of the womb, the vessel and the uterus. It is the passive principle awaiting the active principle.

Inside the triangle is a unicorn, an ancient mythological creature emblematic of purity, spiritual enlightenment and fierceness – the horn is often viewed as symbolic of the union of with God. In esoteric terms it refers to the third eye or the pineal gland.

In Christian symbolism, the Unicorn is a symbol of Christ. It is also often associated with the Virgin Mary.

“Symbolically, the unicorn is a representation of Jesus, the horn represents the unity of Jesus and God, its fierceness and defiance were said to be a reminder that nothing can control Jesus against his will, and the small size of the animal represented Jesus’ humility.”
- Heather Changeri, The Virgin and the Unicorn
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The link between the unicorn and the concept of virginity was popularized by a medieval myth describing how to hunt the creature. In order to catch a unicorn, a virgin is put in the field; the animal then comes to her and is caught, because it lies down in her lap.



Virgin and Unicorn by Domenichino (1602), a
tale which has probably been inspired by
Christian symbolism (or the other way
around). According to Honorius of Autun in his
Speculum de Mysteriis Ecclesiae: “Christ is
represented by this animal, and his invincible
strength by its horn. He, who lay down in the
womb of the Virgin, has been caught by the
hunters; that is to say, he was found in human
shape by those who loved him”.


This unicorn is inside a womb symbolically represented by the inverted triangle and therefore symbolically awaiting birth. The concept of purity associated with unicorn implies an “immaculate conception” as no sexual relation was needed to provoke this cosmic pregnancy (yes, I just said “cosmic pregnancy”). Gaga herself refered to this song in similar terms.

“I wrote ['Born This Way'] in 10 f—ing minutes. And it is a completely magical message song. And after I wrote it, the gates just opened, and the songs kept coming. It was like an immaculate conception.”
- Lady Gaga, Our Lady of Pop, Vogue Magazine
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According to Carl Jung, whether we look at the religious or occult meaning of the unicorn, it ends up portraying the same concept: the union of seemingly opposite forces (i.e. purity and strength).

“The unicorn’s most vital function has been as a symbol, whether of power or virility, or purity, or the combination of opposites, of the male horn and the female body. Many modern interpreters regard this last role as the crucial one and relate it to the symbolism of the soul as the spark of divine light in the darkness of matter and evil, the body, and to the concept of the hermaphrodite as the perfect union of opposites.”
- Carl Jung, Man, Myth and Magic
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That’s a lot of text to explain a single frame of the video. It is, however, an important frame because it sums up the entire concept of the video in a single image: the birth of a spiritual/galactic/metaphorical entity from an immaculate conception.

But what exactly is being born?In her narrative, Gaga says it is a new race, but the video, and the video’s director, suggests that it is a race born within the existing race, from people’s own minds. In the video, a symbolic image replaces the unicorn.



Mask at the back of Gaga’s head

Gaga has two faces, not unlike Janus, the god of gateways and beginnings. In mind-control terms, the mask implies the existence of a programmed alter-personality. Porcelain masks are used in the actual (and horrific) Monarch programming process on slaves and handlers (in the video, Gaga seems to embody both roles).

“Fire torture and melted wax is used to make the child victim believe their face has been burned. Then the programmer generously gives the traumatized alters a porcelain mask. The alter getting the Porcelain face may be given a “gem” hypnotically like Jade and that becomes their secret name. There are several different methods that are available to lay in the porcelain face programming. There has been a great deal of porcelain casts made of people’s faces and then masks made of them. In fact, when a handler dies, at least in one case the replacement handler wore a mask to look like the previous handler.”
- Fritz Springmeier, The Illuminati Formula Used to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Controlled Slave
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The mask inside the triangle implies the birth of a synthetic being, a human construct: a pre-established mindset for humanity. After this, Gaga begins her “Manifesto of Mother Monster”, describing the mindset.

Manifesto of Mother Monster and Birth

Gaga announces the birth of a new race in a speech with heavy occult undertones that contains references to ancient hermetic principles.

“This is the manifesto of Mother Monster: On G.O.A.T., a Government -Owned Alien Territory in space, a birth of magnificent and magical proportions took place.”
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The magical birth took place on a “Government-Owned Alien Territory” – which alluding to the fact that the birth is taking place under the supervision and approval of the powers that be: the elite, the Illuminati. It is also a great way to form the acronym G.O.A.T. and a great way to bring up Baphomet.



As Gaga says “GOAT”, a star formation shaped as a goat head is
shown, an allusion to the Goat of Mendez and/or Baphomet. It is also
shaped like a uterus. The movie Pan’s Labyrinth also draws a link
between the faun’s horned head and the shape of the uterus – a
symbolic gateway to another realm.


Gaga, playing the role of the Virgin about to give birth is symbolically shown inside the goat head, which emphasizes the occult and ritualistic nature of the birth taking place. Baphomet, represented by a goat’s head, is symbolic of magic created by the union of opposite forces, hence its androgyny (see the erect phallic symbol and the female breasts).



The goat-headed Baphomet, as depicted
by Eliphas Levi.
Baphomet’s androgyny and its “As Above,
So Below” hand gesture illustrate the
all-important concept of union of opposite
forces and are all visually represented in
Born This Way.


Baphomet is of great importance in Aleister Crowley’s Thelema – a modern occult philosophy that seems to be a source of inspiration for Gaga’s Manifesto. According to Crowley, Baphomet is a representative of the spiritual nature of the spermatozoa, while also being symbolic of the “magical child” produced as a result of sex magic. As such, Baphomet represents the Union of Opposites, especially as mystically personified in Chaos and Babalon, combined and biologically manifested with the sperm and egg united in the zygote.

“He is ‘The Devil’ of the Book of Thoth, and His emblem is Baphomet the Androgyne who is the hieroglyph of arcane perfection … He is therefore Life, and Love. But moreover his letter is ayin, the Eye, so that he is Light; and his Zodiacal image is Capricornus, that leaping goat whose attribute is Liberty.”
- Aleister Crowley, Magick Book 4
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Concepts similar to those expressed by Crowley are incorporated to the Manifesto:

“But the birth was not finite. It was infinite. As the wombs numbered and the mitosis of the future began, it was perceived that this infamous moment in life is not temporal, it is eternal. And thus began the beginning of the new race, a race within the race of humanity, a race which bears no prejudice, no judgment, but boundless freedom.”
__________________________________________________________________________________

Is the “mitosis of the future” equivalent to Crowley’s “new eon”? The emphasis on the term “liberty” and “freedom” might be a reference to Crowley’s “Do What Thou Wilt” ethos, a concept calling for the seeking of one’s “True Will” without regard for the boundaries of ethics, moral principles or the concept of good and evil. The embrace of both good and evil is further portrayed in the video.

As Gaga says these words, she is shown giving birth to … something. As this something gets pushed out, butterflies appear.



Butterflies emerging from Gaga’s womb.

Butterflies (especially Monarch butterflies) are symbolic of Monarch programming. Mind-control slaves who successfully create an alter-persona are compared to butterflies emerging from their cocoon. This implies that Gaga’s “new race” or “new philosophy” is not something that occurs naturally in society. It is rather something that will be forced on humanity using mind-control techniques.



Soulless, Gaga-clone newborns and a bunch of butterflies flying around them.

The creation of this “beautiful” race leads to the birth of an evil entity, which seemingly exist to protect its interests and force its will upon the world.

"But on that same day, as the eternal mother hovered in the mulitverse, another more terrifying birth took place: the birth of evil. And as she herself split into two, rotating in agony between two ultimate forces, the pendulum of choice began its dance. It seems easy, you imagine, to gravitate instantly and unwaveringly towards good. But she wondered, how can I protect something so perfect without evil?"
__________________________________________________________________________________

As those words are being said, the camera slides upwards towards Gaga, forming a semi-hidden skull head made of human bodies, symbols of sacrifice representing the evil that resulted from birthing the “pure” creation. This concept is illustrated by the symbol of ying and yang and the Masonic checkered floor, where black and white coexist in an infinite pattern.



Semi-hidden human skull above a pyramidal structure made of red human bodies.

The evil force is represented by human skulls, which symbolically represent the elite’s death-culture, which celebrates sacrifices in order to generate “new life”. To illustrate the “political and governmental” aspect of this concept Gaga is shown firing a military rifle while church bells ring (announcing death of the masses).



Gaga firing a rifle, a celebration of depopulation and human
sacrifices. She waves her blond hair as she is shooting, a
continuation of the Agenda to make government oppression and
violence ”sexy”.


Evil is therefore depicted as a necessary force to balance the existence of good (or what is portrayed as good in the video, as mind control is never “good”).

Thought this song was about gay pride? Apparently not. Oh, and then the song starts.

Him or H-I-M

The song starts with an odd statement:

“It doesn’t matter if you love him, or capital H-I-M”
__________________________________________________________________________________

Who is “Him” and, more importantly who is capital H-I-M? At first glance, “Him” can be interpreted as a masculine lover, in accordance with the “gay pride” aspect of the song. In that case, who or what is “capital H-I-M”? Is it God? In that is she referring to the distance between homosexuality and traditional religions? HIM is also the name of a popular Finnish rock band whose acronym stands for “His Infernal Majesty”. In this context, is Gaga saying “It doesn’t matter if you love him (God), or capital H-I-M (Satan)”? If that is the case, it would certainly fit with the dualistic, good versus evil, message of the video and the Thelemic theme of her manifesto.

Further in the song, another line states:

“A different lover is not a sin
Believe capital H-I-M (hey, hey, hey)”

__________________________________________________________________________________

In this spiritual context, is the “regular lover” God and the “different lover” His Infernal Majesty?

Dualism continues to be visually represented throughout the video with scenes celebrating life and love juxtaposed with scenes of celebrating death.



Lots of ewey-gooey love



Brain-dead zombies – the fate of who do not become part of the new
“horned” race.


The rest of the video is a lot less symbol-intensive, as the focus shifts on choreography and female crotch-grabbing. No Gaga video (or any music business pawn’s video for that matter) is complete without the One-Eye Sign.



The Illuminati approves of this Mother Monster Manifesto as it fits
perfectly in our plans for mass indoctrination.


The video ends with a symbolic image, one to be expected when understanding the dualistic theme portrayed throughout the video.



Zombie Gaga inside an upright pink triangle

The last frame of the video is the opposite of the first, as the pink triangle is pointing upwards. This alludes to the appropriation of this Nazi symbol by the gay rights movement and its reversal.

On an esoteric level, the upright triangle is the response to the inverted triangle and signals the end of the alchemical process. It represents the union of the opposites, in order to accomplish the Great Work: the occult transformation of men. When combined, the upright and the inverted triangle become a six-pointed star, a symbol known as the Philospher’s Stone or the Seal of Solomon.



The Hermetic Seal of Solomon composed
with two interlaced triangles pointing in
opposite directions.


“The interlacing triangles or deltas symbolize the union of the two principles or forces, the active and passive, male and female, pervading the universe … The two triangles, one white and the other black, interlacing, typify the mingling of apparent opposites in nature, darkness and light, error and truth, ignorance and wisdom, evil and good, throughout human life.”
- Albert G. Mackey, Encyclopedia of Freemasonry
__________________________________________________________________________________

If the video started with the unicorn inside the inverted triangle, symbolizing the impending birth of a pure spiritual being, the video ends with the opposite energy, death and corruption. Zombie-gaga, the evil by-product of the change imposed by G.O.A.T. In order for magic to happen, both of these triangles are necessary and they need to be united.


Meaning of the Video

The song by itself has an uplifting message: to love and accept oneself unconditionally, the way God made us. However (there’s always a “however” with Gaga), the video takes things to another level … literally. The “Manifesto of Mother Monster” and its related symbolism give the song a cosmic-battle-between-good-and-evil quality, interlaced with the heralding of a new race and, and, to use Crowley’s terminology, a new eon.

In the context of the video, Born This Way is actually a tail of Rebirth and of transformation. As Gaga’s choreographer stated, it is a race within our race; it’s a mindset. This change of mindset is not portrayed as the result of a natural evolution, but rather as a forced change symbolized by the Monarch programming imagery. All of this is happening in the Government-Owned-Alien-Territory, a clever way of stating that this new race is something that the occult elite wants to see happening. In the video, Gaga (and hundreds of clones) are created in a high-tech, government-owned lab. Are we truly preaching no prejudice, no judgment, but boundless freedom? The Manifesto’s ideals therefore only apply to the new, forcefully created race, which is distinguishable from “normal” people by the horn thingies. Is this a sign of superiority? Are the horns any different than the pink triangle used to distinguish gays during the Nazi regime?

Those who do not adhere to this mind-controlled race will apparently feel the wrath of “evil Gaga” and be killed because, as she says, How can I protect something so perfect without evil? The video contradicts and twists the liberating meaning of the song and turns it into something rather oppressive and disturbing. The “new race” is the masses of the New World Order, under the influence of mass mind control and pushed into a precise kind of spirituality, resembling a dumbed-down version of Crowley’s Thelema. This world metamorphosis is perceived by the occult elite as an alchemical transformation, a Great Work. It is visually represented by the opposing forces illustrated throughout the video. The process is meant to create something “pure and perfect”, a new world that is purged from its non-desired elements (portraying a New World Order as the end result of an alchemical process is often referred to in elitist art – see the article Analysis of the Occult Symbols Found on the Bank of America Murals). From the viewpoint of the masses, who must go through this forced rebirth, the process is ugly, terrifying and pure evil. The video however, – as most offerings of pop culture – portrays the view of the elite.

In Conclusion

In order to keep the youth interested and attracted to the elite’s agenda, the video cleverly combines fresh visuals with mind-numbing repetition. Each new video attempts to bring an exciting or shocking element to generate some interest but, at the end of the line, the core message remains stubbornly on-par with the Illuminati Agenda. Born This way uses the classic technique of duplicity, which can be defined as “contradictory doubleness of thought, speech, or action; especially, the concealment of one’s true intentions by deceptive words or actions”. The song’s lyrics say one thing, but the powerful symbols within the video go in the opposite direction. This leads to a contradiction our minds attempt to resolve: Is “boundless freedom” equivalent to the coercsive new world portrayed by Gaga?

Despite the superficial eccentricity of the song, Born This Way is about conforming and adhering to a pre-defined mindset, a philosophy that is compatible with a New World Order. It is not Gaga’s vision, it is their vision. It is the mind state they want you to adopt in order for them to carry on with their Agenda unopposed. This is what they want you to think: There are no important values or moral codes; good and evil are kinda the same and being a mindless zombie is cool. If you think this way, “you’re on the right track baby”. I’m not. Guess I wasn’t born that way.



TL;DR VERSION: Lady Gaga is the devil, ya'll



edit: uploaded graphics because vigilantcitizens account was suspended

Teron D Amun fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Mar 9, 2011

Maximusi
Nov 11, 2007

Haters gonna hate

SpecialAgentCooper posted:

Boston show was loving nuts. Born This Way was the encore and it was really awesome live but it really makes me excited for whatever tour replaces the Monster Ball. Also Scissor Sisters were a great opener and WAY better than Semi-Precious Weapons.

Does that mean that she doesn't perform Bad Romance anymore in the concert? :(

SpecialAgentCooper
Sep 15, 2008

Where we're from, the birds sing a pretty song, and there's always music in the air.
Of course she does! Awesome gyroscope and all. It just comes before Born This Way. Actually though, she did leave out Speechless and So Happy I Could Die (with the amazing moving costume) and cut a few others short, like one random verse of Money Honey before switching songs. Still though, it was a blast.

sonicice
Oct 21, 2000

Michael J Beverage, I've got a bone to pick with you.
Gaga posted some of the Born This Way remixes from the upcoming Remix EP on Facebook, I like the Chew Fu Born To Fix Remix, myself. The song itself has probably turned into my favorite Gaga track.

http://www.facebook.com/ladygaga?sk=app_108468622525037

I just wanna daaaaaaaance

Mediant
Dec 23, 2010

In Brightest Day...
In Dankest Night...

Teron D Amun posted:

((WORDS))

I can't believe I just read all of that. It was so :tinfoil:. To the extreme. It used the phrase, "In order to keep the youth interested and attracted to the elite’s agenda..."
I hope that article is just some massive trolling.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




I love those Illuminati articles. I mean, they're obviously written by something who is clearly cracked or taking the piss, but they are actually fairly good analyses of the imagery in Gaga's videos. They're coming at it from a somewhat bonkers perspective, but they do have some good and interesting deconstructions of the symbols from the video. For example I didn't really put together all of the rebirth imagery until I read it - "butterflies - of course! *smacks head*". Also, I'd never picked up the pan over the people in the shape of a skull.

I look forward to the Illuminati mind control interpretation almost as much as I look forward to the videos. Sometimes it seems almost like she throws stuff into the videos purely to give this guy something to latch on to!

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




SpecialAgentCooper posted:

Of course she does! Awesome gyroscope and all. It just comes before Born This Way. Actually though, she did leave out Speechless and So Happy I Could Die (with the amazing moving costume) and cut a few others short, like one random verse of Money Honey before switching songs. Still though, it was a blast.

We got So Happy I Could Die (with costume) in DC. :smug: But yeah, no more speechless.

Did you guys have a choral group for Born This Way? Because the acapella choral version was pretty great.

snackcakes
May 7, 2005

A joint venture of Matsumura Fishworks and Tamaribuchi Heavy Manufacturing Concern

SpecialAgentCooper posted:

Of course she does! Awesome gyroscope and all. It just comes before Born This Way. Actually though, she did leave out Speechless and So Happy I Could Die (with the amazing moving costume) and cut a few others short, like one random verse of Money Honey before switching songs. Still though, it was a blast.

When I saw her at MSG she performed both Speechless and So Happy I Could Die but she did do that one random verse of Money Honey and I thought that was awesome, because that was really as long as that song needed to be.

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood

13Pandora13 posted:

We got So Happy I Could Die (with costume) in DC. :smug: But yeah, no more speechless.

Did you guys have a choral group for Born This Way? Because the acapella choral version was pretty great.

She should just skip Vanity and Money Honey, and keep So Happy I Could Die and Speechless. Those are her best live songs imo.

I've seen her twice, and she never did Eh, Eh :(

Physical
Sep 26, 2007

by T. Finninho

Bewildrbeast posted:

I really dig it, but I didn't care as much about "Bad Romance" until the video came out and I'm guessing it's the same with this track.

I didn't care about this song until I saw the video. wierd. Also, I wish her concert stage show was more like the videos and less like going to see rent. I want digital screens that show poo poo like tool or NIN does.

thunderthief posted:

Lady Gaga hasn't done poo poo since passing out after a cocaine binge.
I didnt get this, but I get it now. I feel the same way Gaga, gotta keep staring into that mirror!
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/lady-gaga-thought-shed-die-of-cocaine-binge_100316112.html

LargeCardinal posted:

Her interview on CBS was hilarious. "I'm not going to sugarcoat it for CBS. I smoke a lot of pot."
She smokes weed? She doesn't seem like she does. She seems like she is perpetually on Xanax.

Oh and that video, the beginning just seemed like pandering but the more I listen to it I realize there is another hidden message behind the hidden message about god. Pretty sneaky sis! and cool. A being that sits at the multi-verse has to be God.

Physical fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 10, 2011

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

quote:

She smokes weed? She doesn't seem like she does.

I think she smokes mainly when shes is in the studio.

Someone explain to me where the endless Born This Way / Express Yourself comparisons comes from, because I don't hear it at all. They're both upbeat, positive pop songs sung by females, but that's where the similarities end to my ears.

snail goat
Dec 12, 2006

you shouldnt doubt yourself
you know more about goats than you give yourself credit for

Lord Krangdar posted:

I think she smokes mainly when shes is in the studio.

Someone explain to me where the endless Born This Way / Express Yourself comparisons comes from, because I don't hear it at all. They're both upbeat, positive pop songs sung by females, but that's where the similarities end to my ears.
Sometimes when I'm singing Born This Way in my head, the chorus goes like this:

Don't hide yourself in regret
Just love yourself and you're set
Express what you've got
Oh baby, ready or not

It just kinda flows together in my mind. I'm not sure that's what others hear, but that's what it is for me.

Dancin Fool
Mar 4, 2009
I don't think this has been posted yet, but here is a website dedicated to Lady Gaga analytical essays:

http://gagajournal.blogspot.com/

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Dancin Fool fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Mar 12, 2011

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.
When coupons and gaga collide:
http://1saleaday.com/wireless/
Heartbeats for 49.99, down from 99.99

N3RDSTER
Mar 27, 2010
Born This Way gif dump incoming:


















Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



CaptainJuan posted:

When coupons and gaga collide:
http://1saleaday.com/wireless/
Heartbeats for 49.99, down from 99.99

About a year ago I went into Best Buy in the town I used to live in, and was just browsing around the electronic section. I saw the Beats, and went to take a look, and for some reason they had black Heartbeats (no other colors) for $49.99. They had the other colors in stock, but they were all still $99.99. I have no idea why. I scooped them up even though I hadn't planned on buying anything. They're pretty good earbuds, but their shape can be uncomfortable for long periods of time. I used them when I really want to listen to something, because their sound quality is pretty drat good, but for long trips on the bus to school and work I usually end up just using the earbuds that came with my mp3 player.

Psimitry
Jun 3, 2003

Hostile negotiations since 1978

Waddley Hasselhoff posted:

Sometimes when I'm singing Born This Way in my head, the chorus goes like this:

Don't hide yourself in regret
Just love yourself and you're set
Express what you've got
Oh baby, ready or not

It just kinda flows together in my mind. I'm not sure that's what others hear, but that's what it is for me.

I also very much hear

I'm on the right track baby
I was born this way
So if you want it right now,
Make him show you how.
Express what you've got,
Baby ready or not.

Monster w21 Faces
May 11, 2006

"What the fuck is that?"
"What the fuck is this?!"
The Gaga just donated $16 million to Japan.

Legs Benedict
Jul 14, 2002

You can either follow me to our bedroom or bend over that control throne because I haven't been this turned on in FOREVER!

Monster w21 Faces posted:

The Gaga just donated $16 million to Japan.

What? Really? Link!

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

There aren't any links that I can see - the blogs of the internet say that she didn't donate $16m but that she donated $5m herself but was involved in a campaign that raised $16m altogether. This is all just rumour at the moment, though.

nous_
May 14, 2010
I spent 80k on my sociology degree and all I got was the stupid opinion I just posted.

(and herpes)
I'll bet there is, at a minimum, one scared gay/bi/trans kid being reassured by "Born This Way", and probably a whole lot more. And that's really cool!

nous_ fucked around with this message at 08:37 on Mar 13, 2011

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

And with any luck the future will have this song help many, many more people feel emboldened to be true to themselves.

Heck, maybe in the future this song will be derided for stating the obvious, but that's a bit of a pipe-dream for the time being.

CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
It's just a song, it's not a Martin Luther King Jr. speech. And it's not even that great of a song. Tons of songs (and better ones) have been written about "being true to yourself". And I don't even hate her music.

Neon Belly
Feb 12, 2008

I need something stronger.

CortezFantastic posted:

It's just a song, it's not a Martin Luther King Jr. speech. And it's not even that great of a song. Tons of songs (and better ones) have been written about "being true to yourself". And I don't even hate her music.

This song is probably one of the best I've heard in a long time. If you don't like it, I really don't know what to say to you. That's like not liking the Godfather.

etcetera08
Sep 11, 2008

Gadamer posted:

This song is probably one of the best I've heard in a long time. If you don't like it, I really don't know what to say to you. That's like not liking the Godfather.

I don't like The Godfather, help.

Gaga is just iconic enough where her songs take on SUPERHUMAN meaning to people.

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




CortezFantastic posted:

It's just a song, it's not a Martin Luther King Jr. speech. And it's not even that great of a song. Tons of songs (and better ones) have been written about "being true to yourself". And I don't even hate her music.

Different songs, poems, books, speeches have different significance to different groups. Nobody is trying to make Gaga into MLK but if you think she isn't vastly influential to some groups (particularly young gay men and young women) you're just being intentionally ignorant/"loving edgy." Pop culture is still culture and is still socially (and historically) significant.

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CortezFantastic
Aug 10, 2003

I SEE DEMONS
Yes I'm being loving edgy because I don't think a song is all that good and just pandering to her audience. You got me good, internet sleuth. You somehow missed the two trolls posted after me.

etcetera08
Sep 11, 2008

13Pandora13 posted:

Different songs, poems, books, speeches have different significance to different groups. Nobody is trying to make Gaga into MLK but if you think she isn't vastly influential to some groups (particularly young gay men and young women) you're just being intentionally ignorant/"loving edgy." Pop culture is still culture and is still socially (and historically) significant.

(edit)

(perorder) Gaga bracelets for Japan Relief. 100% of proceeds go to relief efforts.

I don't understand why you think she's more influential than any other recent pop star, even to your specified groups. Besides the fact that she's outspoken about gay rights she's exactly the same as them all.

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May 25, 2010

etcetera08 posted:

I don't understand why you think she's more influential than any other recent pop star, even to your specified groups. Besides the fact that she's outspoken about gay rights she's exactly the same as them all.

Not really.

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