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From the Feb '11 thread:Biggy_ posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzP9up8n7p8
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Feb 24, 2011 14:46
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an old one but a good one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BU0_Wp5MHs&feature=player_embedded
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Feb 24, 2011 23:16
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Borogrove posted:an old one but a good one. I don't speak drunkjock. 
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Feb 25, 2011 00:56
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Ninpo posted:I don't speak drunkjock. it was the thick scouse accent that got me
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Feb 25, 2011 03:39
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Sorry FIFA, the World Cup isn't the highest level of play out there. I probably could have won a World Cup if you stuck me in some of those amazing Brazil squads over the years. Ronaldo accomplished a lot for his national team, but the guy NEVER won a CL. That would be fine if he played for small teams that never had a chance of winning the CL, but he played for Inter, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Ac Milan, etc, all some of the biggest clubs in the World, and all teams that were winning the CL before Ronaldo or after him. Now, Ronaldo certainly was a great player, but he's quite overrated. He certainly had the potential to be one of the best ever, if not the best, but he was too lazy and never worked hard enough to improve, instead relying on his own skill. After a while, his skill wouldn't cut it when he was fat and out of shape. It's that lack of working hard that really drags him down in my opinion. The other downside is he wasn't that versatile. He could plow through defenders and score, but that's about it. Sometimes his touches were poor, sometimes he'd stupidly give the ball away, and his passing wasn't that great. I'll always remember his give away against Arsenal that led to Henry's goal. To add that, he quickly got out of shape and never really got back into shape. The guy scored lots of goals, but so did many other players who contributed a bit more to their teams than just goals. His dribbling was incredible, his shooting was nothing too great, but he scored goals. What else did he offer aside from bullying through defenders with fancy footwork and power? Not much in my opinion. Ronaldo was fantastic for his national team, but I think it's too much of a coincidence that he NEVER won a CL despite playing for four of the biggest teams in the world. He scored lots of league goals but how many league titles did he win despite playing for those biggest teams? One La Liga (I'm not going to count the other La Liga for Real where Capello benched him for being fat and his contributions were 7 appearances one goal) Ronaldo scored over 350 goals, but there are a few players in the modern game who have scored 300+ goals. I think Raul's scoring record is MUCH more impressive since a) Raul has played midfield, winger, forward, second striker, striker etc and still managed them and b) Raul played at the highest level for his entire career, where as 79 of Ronaldo's goals were scored in Brazil and 54 were scored in the Netherlands. Neither of those are considered the highest level, and both are feeder leagues to the bigger teams. So really, that's about 219 goals at the highest level. Casuals always seem to overrate exciting flashy players, and players who did well in World Cups. Ronaldo was both. When it came to the toughest competition in the world, Ronaldo wasn't that impressive. He had the potential, but he didn't work hard enough to improve, and eventually it caught up with him. Don't get me wrong, he was an amazing player, there are just plenty of other players I'd rather have in a team. I wouldn't even consider him the best forward of the last 15 years. Raul, Henry, Eto'o, Van Nistelrooy, etc these players offered MUCH more to a team, just as many goals, more versatility, and these guys showed up in the big games and when competition was it's fiercest. Anyway, a lot of people thought back in 2001 Ronaldo was overrated, and I don't think in the next ten years he proved any of those doubters like myself wrong. Don't get me wrong, I'm not insulting him and he seems like a nice guy and all that, but to claim he was the greatest ever is absurd when there are plenty of players in the last 15 years who were better and played a similar position. Guys who had skill AND worked hard to improve their game. Guys who carried their teams to the biggest title of them all. Simply put, having potential to be the greatest and actually utilizing that potential are two completely different things.
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Feb 27, 2011 16:09
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SteadfastMeat posted:Don't get me wrong, he was an amazing player, there are just plenty of other players I'd rather have in a team. I wouldn't even consider him the best forward of the last 15 years. Raul, Henry, Eto'o, Van Nistelrooy, etc these players offered MUCH more to a team, just as many goals, more versatility, and these guys showed up in the big games and when competition was it's fiercest. Heard it here first guys, Van Nistelrooy offered more to his team and was more versatile than Ronaldo.
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Feb 27, 2011 16:44
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SteadfastMeat posted:He could plow through defenders and score, but that's about it. Well what's the point of that.
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Feb 27, 2011 16:57
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Ronaldo never showed up in big games at all
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Feb 27, 2011 17:15
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vyelkin posted:Heard it here first guys, Van Nistelrooy offered more to his team and was more versatile than Ronaldo. Carried his team to the Champions League, apparently.
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Feb 27, 2011 17:27
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That guy is really loving stupid
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Feb 27, 2011 17:37
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Feb 27, 2011 19:43
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SteadfastMeat posted:He could plow through defenders and score, but that's about it. Has to be an Arsenal fan.
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Feb 27, 2011 21:54
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martins u are warned hmm.
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Feb 28, 2011 01:09
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I want to meet the guy that drew that picture of Wilshere with all the labels on his various body parts. edit: I'd actually rather meet "Da Plaz"
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Feb 28, 2011 01:12
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I'm eager to meet anyone that has "Da Plaz" permanently displayed above their head.
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Feb 28, 2011 01:25
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mogues posted:I'm eager to meet anyone that has "Da Plaz" permanently displayed above their head. Maybe he's a character in an MMO.
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Feb 28, 2011 01:28
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DickEmery posted:Has to be an Arsene Wenger.
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Feb 28, 2011 01:36
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mogues posted:martins u are warned Oł est l'enfant avatar? Hello.
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Feb 28, 2011 01:49
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Just did an openbook search and found people denouncing Arsenal for other clubs, saying Wenger's time is up and most awesomely that it doesn't matter because the carling cup is only a little trophy and "i hope this year we will win one very very very big trophy" The Best Fans. *EDIT*  Had to come back and add this one. Bacon of the Sea fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Feb 28, 2011 |
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Feb 28, 2011 10:19
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haha Africans are funny
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Feb 28, 2011 10:32
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Bacon of the Sea posted:Just did an openbook search and found people denouncing Arsenal for other clubs, saying Wenger's time is up and most awesomely that it doesn't matter because the carling cup is only a little trophy and "i hope this year we will win one very very very big trophy"
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Feb 28, 2011 10:39
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BunnyX posted:haha Africans are funny I like the ones that call in to fanzone
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Feb 28, 2011 10:42
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euroboy posted:I like the ones that call in to fanzone They really don't compare to the ones on the world service who call sportsworld have your say.
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Mar 1, 2011 01:31
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lmao
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Mar 6, 2011 19:40
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From a Oklahoma Sooners forum I read.soonerbms posted:It's pretty clear what happened in that match. After Satan complained about the officiating following the Chelsea match, the league office gave specific instructions to the referee of this match to do whatever he could to ensure Arsenal dropped points. It was a clear penalty when Bramble pushed Arshavin in the back before Arshavin sprayed his shot wide. Minutes later, Arshavin was whistled offside when he was clearly on. He would have been one on one with the keeper. Beyond the awful officiating, Arsenal were just very unlucky and the Sunderland keeper made some nice saves. I love the last paragraph so much.
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Mar 6, 2011 22:11
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Dirk Pitt posted:From a Oklahoma Sooners forum I read. if you didn't read this in the voice of jim ross then lol just lol
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Mar 7, 2011 02:59
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Once again you don't refute my assertions, fair enough, I consider them valid and until there's a sufficient rebuttal I assume you are unable to contradict my assertions adequately. The MLS is composed of teams that are selected primarily for the potential attendances and commercial revenue they can garner, therefore by the metric of average attendances, the MLS should perform reasonably well, even if the environment is in no way comparable to other nations that it may supercede average attendance wise. That when there is next to nothing at stake for losing it doesn't matter how many fans you play in front of, in fact when there are benefits to be yielded ahead of the next season for losing there is often more gained in losing than trying to win if you aren't sure you can win it all. In that regard how is that fan environment in anyway similar to a smaller one in europe where losing can mean everything in terms of stakes for a club, where promotion is vital and finishing bottom and suffering relegation can have consequences that are highly negative. It has often been noted in europe that travelling to countries like Greece and Turkey can have a huge impact on players playing there because of the LEVEL of support, not the Amount of support, but because of how much is at stake, if the support is smaller in number it doesn't mean it isn't larger in intensity, presence, pressure. A crowd half that of the MLS in turkey will dwarf any MLS crowd, in fact you could put them in the same stadium and the turkish crowd will be the one that is heard, felt, noticed by the players not the MLS crowd. Watching a bunch of you getting all nuanced about the numbers present at a match like it's some stake of superiority you hold over some levels of European football is pathetic. A crowd of 5000 from most countries in Europe would put your average attendance crowd to shame in terms of presence during a football match and to play in front of much smaller numbers in Europe with so much more at stake with the results is a much bigger environment than the MLS will be until they adopt a system more similar to Europe. Adu is indeed playing in front of crowds that dwarf the MLS ones at least in terms of presence and many americans are playing in europe in front of crowds regularly that not only dwarf the MLS crowds in terms of presence but also in terms of numbers as well in leagues below the MLS on average attendance. I wouldn't really have commented on this until I saw someone actually trying to validate their average attendances and arguing that an MLS crowd wouldn't be schooled by a turk lig 2 crowd (they would, absolutely, the MLS crowd would not be heard nor felt compared to the turkish support even if out numbered 2 to 1) and the fact you decided to come out to bat for him was your choice wicka, now either swing and play or walk away.
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Mar 8, 2011 23:50
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TomSellek posted:Haha, from Jamie Redknapp after the game: quote:Barcelona have done to Arsenal what arsenal do to 99% of the teams in the Premier League. They've been literally passed to death tonight.
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Mar 8, 2011 23:53
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K U N T Z posted:Once again you don't refute my assertions, fair enough, I consider them valid and until there's a sufficient rebuttal I assume you are unable to contradict my assertions adequately. hey i recognize that post....
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Mar 9, 2011 04:05
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Mickolution posted:Haha, from Jamie Redknapp after the game: the premier league is a 100 team league - jamie redknapp 
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Mar 9, 2011 08:04
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Lyric Proof Vest posted:the premier league is a 100 team league - jamie redknapp
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Mar 9, 2011 14:58
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quote:I remember writing an email to that lovely zonal marking site about a year ago asking them to write an article about how one of the key aspects of Barcelona's tactics is the way they go down so easy whenever it looks like they're going to lose possession of the ball or the opposition are in a dangerous position. I reckon this tactic alone accounts for between 5-10% of their possession and stops god knows how many opportunities the opposition have to counter attack (which is vital against Barca). It would have been nice if zonal marking, with the resources they have available to them, could have done some in-depth research into this. Of course, I never heard back from them.
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Mar 9, 2011 16:14
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Mar 9, 2011 18:22
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TyChan posted:
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Mar 9, 2011 18:35
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TyChan posted:What's bad about this one? edit.. the zonalmarking related one
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Mar 9, 2011 21:34
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Mar 9, 2011 22:16
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Brap's rant is funny because he honestly felt entitled to some response from a random website to his ultra-important opinion.irlZaphod posted:This owns I thought it was cheesy.
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Mar 10, 2011 03:01
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TomSellek posted:A legitimately very smart thing to do, kids' brains/skulls aren't fully developed at that age, heading the ball is a terrible idea.
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Mar 10, 2011 03:25
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wicka posted:A legitimately very smart thing to do, kids' brains/skulls aren't fully developed at that age, heading the ball is a terrible idea. You could watch 20 U-8 matches and not once see someone head the ball as it stands, and never one with any pace. But brains/skulls don't stop developing til your mid 20's anyway so that's not great reasoning. Just more concussion hysteria
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