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It's worth noting that the "If I/you mess up, all my/you past convictions will magically be freed from prison" has pretty much entered into the realm of acceptable cop movie/tv tropes. I have seen it referenced as a plot point in Burn Notice, and Castle on TV recently as well. It has no explanation other than that's how movies/TV portrays policemen, though it probably has its roots in the 'got off on a technicality' trope where bad guys walk away from repercussions if the cop does some minor thing wrong. Law and Order actually tends to get that second idea right usually though.
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EVERYTHING I SAY ABOUT JAPAN OR LIVING IN JAPAN IS COMPLETELY WRONG, BUT YOU BETTER BELIEVE I'LL 
ABOUT IT.
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Encryptic posted:It also shows up in Darkman during the helicopter scene Being driven by the Coen brothers, no less.
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kapalama posted:It's worth noting that the "If I/you mess up, all my/you past convictions will magically be freed from prison" has pretty much entered into the realm of acceptable cop movie/tv tropes. It might stem from the OJ trials, where a lot of the evidence and testimonies were discredited because that one cop was racist. If the prosecutor in a major case turns out to be an insane murderer, the defendant might gain some credibility.
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Mar 10, 2011 03:09
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JebanyPedal posted:I was doing some thinking earlier today and I was mulling over recurring themes in films and what-not, essentially little quirks or props or events that would repeatedly appear in specific films in order to establish some sort of message or understanding within the film. I know this was already answered, but in every Tim Burton movie Jack Skellington's head appears somewhere. (Beetlejuice's Hat, The Tree in Big Fish, I think it even shows up in his Batman movies).
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Barometer posted:If you can find a link to this, I'd like to see it. I know "V. Vega" from Pulp Fiction and Resevior Dogs was roughly the same character but he's the only one I ever heard of. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4byt-DtsI
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Schweinhund posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4byt-DtsI Wow, that's some Illuminati style crossover info. 
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Encryptic posted:It also shows up in Darkman during the helicopter scene and in the Spiderman movies, I believe. I believe the thief who kills Uncle Ben in the first Spiderman movie is actually driving this car, from what I remember.
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Mar 10, 2011 04:40
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Pixar films generally have at least one reference to Toy Story. Andy's cloud wallpaper shows up in a bunch of movies.
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Mar 10, 2011 08:31
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dolphins are gay posted:Pixar films generally have at least one reference to Toy Story. Andy's cloud wallpaper shows up in a bunch of movies. The Pizza Planet truck also pops up in every film, as does John Ratzenberger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpXbCT61OlE
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Mar 10, 2011 08:42
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Tender Bender posted:I took it to mean that anyone who was prosecuted by him (or at least the higher-ups with big lawyer money) would appeal their conviction under the premise that their prosecutor was corrupt; he was caught (in this hypothetical scenario) extorting a confession under highly illegal means, who knows what other methods he resorted to, evidence he falsified, etc. At the very least their lawyers would probably be able to challenge the chain of custody of any evidence that passed through Dent's hands. This should never be brought up in Law and Order SVU as every single cop outside Munch and Ice T use illegal methods every week. Stabler has beat up so many suspects innocent and guilty.
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yeah, SVU gets ridiculous. In one episode they're overseas and Stadler just belts on a dude for like 5 minutes. I'd imagine cops can get fired for beating up suspects in other countries, even if it was romania.
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kapalama posted:It's worth noting that the "If I/you mess up, all my/you past convictions will magically be freed from prison" has pretty much entered into the realm of acceptable cop movie/tv tropes. On the other hand, there is the Rampart Scandal: quote:As a result of the probe into falsified evidence and police perjury, 106 prior criminal convictions were overturned. The Rampart Scandal resulted in more than 140 civil lawsuits against the city of Los Angeles, costing the city an estimated $125 million in settlements.
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There's also the Jon Burge scandal in Chicago, where a police commander accused of beatings and torture resulted in a number of convictions being overturned. These people weren't getting away with anything as a result, though, as they clearly were victims.
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Mar 10, 2011 16:13
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Why does the IMDB trivia and goofs sections suck so much? They're often full of repeats, speculation, and factually inaccurate statements. Everything submitted supposedly gets reviewed. What gives?
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Lao Tsu posted:Why does the IMDB trivia and goofs sections suck so much? They're often full of repeats, speculation, and factually inaccurate statements. Everything submitted supposedly gets reviewed. What gives? It's reviewed by the same sort of people that submit them. There are some galling gaffes that don't get pulled because the person who submitted it 'heard it on the internet' and the checker is also someone who 'heard it on the internet'. All you need to do to 'confirm' it is find some other reference on the internet agreeing with it (also user submitted in many cases). Try fact checking some common urban myths on the internet some time. You will usually dead-end at either Snopes, which, though generally good, has errors because it is just some guy on the internet, or 'The Straight Dope', which, though generally good, repeats urban myths because before the internet who could check up on him?
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SaintFu posted:On the other hand, there is the Rampart Scandal: morestuff posted:There's also the Jon Burge scandal in Chicago, where a police commander accused of beatings and torture resulted in a number of convictions being overturned. Those are probably as good a reason for the trope/meme as any, but those examples are about the specific actions related to the actions of specific police people in those specific cases, specifically the police misconduct in building the cases against those people later set free, not about later malfeasance by those police in other cases. The Batman (Burn Notice/Castle/Law and Order) trope is that you cannot act badly now, or your previous appropriate acts will be magically undone. The police in those above listed cases were acting badly from the beginning. It was their specific misconduct (unprovoked shootings, unprovoked beatings, planting of evidence, framing of suspects, stealing and dealing narcotics, bank robbery, perjury, and covering up evidence of these activities) in those cases that resulted in wrongful arrest and conviction of people who were later freed/compensated.
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kapalama posted:It's reviewed by the same sort of people that submit them. There are some galling gaffes that don't get pulled because the person who submitted it 'heard it on the internet' and the checker is also someone who 'heard it on the internet'. The thing that really burns my rear end though is when there are like three or four entries that repeat or contradict each other. One month out of a sense of film crusader-ship I tried to clean up some of the crap on films like Shutter Island and The Godfather that was redundant or not "trivia" (bordering on just fan interpretation) and my submissions are still in limbo.
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IMDB primarily cares about money and more content = more page views/$$$.
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Was there any reason whatsoever to change the name of the character from "Lecter" to "Lecktor" for the movie Manhunter? Just seems really pointless.
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kapalama posted:It's reviewed by the same sort of people that submit them. Just to expand, don't forget that a person that submits a "goof" probably doesn't like the movie and wants to draw attention to its flaws. Having a biased opinions, they fill the goofs section with plotholes the movie doesn't even have and such, since they weren't paying attention in the first place. The only way this gets caught is if someone who likes the movie catches it.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I believe the thief who kills Uncle Ben in the first Spiderman movie is actually driving this car, from what I remember. Yup. It was also the witch's car in "Drag Me To Hell", Cate Blancett's car in "The Gift", and its chassis was used to make a wagon in "The Quick and The Dead".
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So in Robocop 2, there's a scene when Robo-Cain, motivated by his drug "Nuke," bumps in to the hot girlfriend he had when he was still human. He puts out this phallic/pincer thing, and the girlfriend looks at it, assumes he wants to sex her with it, and tells him (obviously scared), "It'll take some getting used to, but it will be great." Sexing her with it doesn't seem to be his intent, and he gets pissed off and flips out. So, what was his intent of offering her the big phallic robo pincer?
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GORDON posted:So in Robocop 2, there's a scene when Robo-Cain, motivated by his drug "Nuke," bumps in to the hot girlfriend he had when he was still human. He puts out this phallic/pincer thing, and the girlfriend looks at it, assumes he wants to sex her with it, and tells him (obviously scared), "It'll take some getting used to, but it will be great." Sexing her with it doesn't seem to be his intent, and he gets pissed off and flips out. Maybe an involuntary erection?
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GORDON posted:So in Robocop 2, there's a scene when Robo-Cain, motivated by his drug "Nuke," bumps in to the hot girlfriend he had when he was still human. He puts out this phallic/pincer thing, and the girlfriend looks at it, assumes he wants to sex her with it, and tells him (obviously scared), "It'll take some getting used to, but it will be great." Sexing her with it doesn't seem to be his intent, and he gets pissed off and flips out. I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but I just assumed it was one of those "gently caress I'm not human/a man anymore" rageouts.
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Is there a technique or just the nature of movie cameras that make models look real? I was looking at some pictures online of various models built for various films, and even when the photo is taken in up close and the model is the only thing in frame to give away its actual size, it still looks like a model.
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Snak posted:I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but I just assumed it was one of those "gently caress I'm not human/a man anymore" rageouts. Yeah, this was the impression I took from it as well. He realizes that he will never be able to get it on again and flips out. Edit; Here's all of RoboCain's scenes in 6 minutes; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIAW2ZAfrWo Barometer fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Mar 11, 2011 |
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twistedmentat posted:Is there a technique or just the nature of movie cameras that make models look real? Never underestimate lighting.
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twistedmentat posted:Is there a technique or just the nature of movie cameras that make models look real? Dangerous Days, the Blade Runner docu, goes into great detail on how they made the cityscapes work. Check it out, it's really fantastic for a retrospective piece.
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penismightier posted:Never underestimate lighting. It also has to do with depth of field.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It also has to do with depth of field. https://vimeo.com/3156959 Depth of field: Making models look like real-life and vice-versa!
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twistedmentat posted:Is there a technique or just the nature of movie cameras that make models look real? I think the camera being close is the key part, since it gives a fish eye effect that makes it easy to tell it's something close. For the movie you'd want to move the camera as far back as possible and zoom in.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:It also has to do with depth of field. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25N-4zrk390&t=30s
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Barometer posted:Yeah, this was the impression I took from it as well. He realizes that he will never be able to get it on again and flips out. So it's a throwback to the scene in the first film where Murphy returns to his former home to find everything rotten or gone. Only instead of breaking a TV, Cain breaks a woman's skull. Robocop 2 will always be a guilty pleasure of mine. Sure the movie is pretty much a mixed bag of subplots, but it does have some great moments. Robocop 3 was a pile of poo poo.
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twistedmentat posted:Is there a technique or just the nature of movie cameras that make models look real? Found a video about this. Most relevant stuff is @ 2:00 in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvVLlWIlkBQ
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I just watched Django and really liked it - what are some other great spaghetti Westerns out there (preferrably available on Netflix)? Netflix has a number of Django "sequels" but I have no idea if they're as well-regarded as the original. I've seen all of Leone's Westerns with the exception of Duck, You Sucker, which I'll probably have Netflix send me next.
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Death Rides a Horse is pretty good as far as I remember. My Name is Nobody take spaghetti western tropes and makes a comedy out of them, so you might get a kick out of that too.
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Sorry if this has been asked before, and also sorry if it's a stupid question, but I watched The Exorcist earlier and it's something that's always bugged me about one of my favourite films: Where did Karras get the necklace? We see Merrin finding it in Iraq at the start, then Karras dreams about it falling to the ground, then he's wearing it at the end and the demon pulls it off so it can jump from Reagan to him, as if it was protecting him, but it's never referenced that he actually owns it or was given it by anyway before then. I don't remember it coming up in the book, which I've read twice although it was years ago, and I hated the director's cut/version you've never seen so don't remember if it comes up there. I can understand the significance of it, just not how the hell he came into possession (  ) of it.
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Encryptic posted:I've seen all of Leone's Westerns with the exception of Duck, You Sucker, which I'll probably have Netflix send me next. Duck, You Sucker is on Instant Watch. I've been meaning to check it.
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This is the long-shot of all long-shots but my friend is looking for a homemade werewolf film called "Fangtooth" by someone named Robert North. It was made in Luton (UK) in the early 90s and, well, that's all I've got to go on. Apologies if this isn't the best place to ask this question, I had a look but didn't see anywhere else suitable. There is very little info about Fangtooth online so it might be a case of trying to find this Robert North fella. I have been assured it's phenomenal.
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morestuff posted:Duck, You Sucker is on Instant Watch. I've been meaning to check it. Yeah, my computer is fairly old so streaming doesn't work very well (I've got broadband so that's not an issue). Planning on upgrading soon or possibly getting an XBox + new TV.
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