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Dominic White posted:The Battle Isle series is a close evolutionary cousin of the Advance Wars series. Hex-based, and with a few more stats to crunch, but otherwise very similar, right down to doing the whole animated combat sequences. Hum, like a more complex, hex-based Advance Wars. Im sold. As for Incubus: really decent squad-level turn-based combat, although I remember it being quite hard and kinda more like a puzzle game than a tactical one, like you have to find a solution to the map that involves making the exact right moves or you are just screwd. Thatīs how I remember it, but I played it a long time ago.
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Holy poo poo, Incubation? I've always wanted to play that but never got the chance  Another  for GOG.
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Mar 15, 2011 18:42
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So I won a free game in that Twitter spam contest thing, I just have to DM them with the game I want. I'm assuming I can't ask for The Witcher 2, I've narrowed it down to Battle Isle or Two Worlds. Two Worlds sounds like Elder Scrolls that doesn't take itself seriously could be a lot of goofy fun. I haven't played Battle Isle or Incubation, but I love Advance Wars and Space Hulk. How is it for someone who's never played?
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Mar 15, 2011 19:22
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Arcsech posted:So I won a free game in that Twitter spam contest thing, I just have to DM them with the game I want. I'm assuming I can't ask for The Witcher 2, I've narrowed it down to Battle Isle or Two Worlds. Two Worlds sounds like Elder Scrolls that doesn't take itself seriously could be a lot of goofy fun. I haven't played Battle Isle or Incubation, but I love Advance Wars and Space Hulk. How is it for someone who's never played? Although its entirely up to each owns taste. I would go for Battle Isle for the most bang for your buck. TW is enjoyed the same way one would enjoy Dungeon Siege the movie. Lampoon all the crazy poo poo in it and just laugh along with the crazy aspects of it. Not for everyone but if it clicks for you, you'll have a blast.
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Mar 15, 2011 19:31
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If you want a good RPG that doesn't take itself entirely seriously, Divine Divinity is well worth getting. The version on GOG is pretty heavily updated, with some bugs fixed and widescreen/high-res support added. The sequel (Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga) is also very tongue-in-cheek.
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Mar 15, 2011 19:37
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Dominic White posted:The sequel (Divinity 2: Dragon Knight Saga) is also very tongue-in-cheek. Its gameplay is also really spiffy. You spend a lot of time actually flying around as a dragon, like in the old game Drakan. About Two Worlds: My only experience was having a bitch of a time installing it, and when finally being ingame finding out that i literally could not get my character to walk in a straight line, in any direction. Mind, that was right after release, but i never bothered figuring out whether they made it less of a bug-ridden mess.
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Mar 15, 2011 19:59
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Mithaldu posted:Its gameplay is also really spiffy. You spend a lot of time actually flying around as a dragon, like in the old game Drakan. Hmm, is Divinity 2 on GOG as well? Or is it a newer game? My thinking about getting Two Worlds is based on that stream of "it's a horrible, buggy, cheesy game, BUY IT" a few pages back. I think I'll have to look up gameplay videos of Battle Isle too. Edit: Hm, Divine Divinity looks interesting, and I was reminded that I still haven't played Total Annihilation... Arcsech fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 15, 2011 |
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Mar 15, 2011 20:05
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Arcsech posted:Hmm, is Divinity 2 on GOG as well? Or is it a newer game? Newer. It originally came out 2009, but was really rushed out. It got an expanded re-released version called Dragon Knight Saga in late 2010, which was a huge improvement. As for Battle Isle, the first game is reaaaaly dated. Early 90s PC/Amiga strategy. BI2 is where it really started to form into something really distinctive (and dropped the split-screen/phase-based gameplay in favour of something more intuitive).
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Mar 15, 2011 20:08
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Drakan should be on GoG. I know the sequel never made it to the PC. I remember loving the game although rose-coloured glasses may be getting in the way of my opinion. Was it a good game? Or was my younger self too enamoured with torching people while riding a giant dragon.
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Mar 15, 2011 20:36
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Red Mundus posted:Drakan should be on GoG. I know the sequel never made it to the PC. I remember loving the game although rose-coloured glasses may be getting in the way of my opinion. Drakan is an excellent game, and I say that having played it just last week. It's also desperately in need of a GOG treatment as it crashes all the goddamn time on modern OSes.
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Mar 15, 2011 21:49
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Tufty posted:I'm also having the MM7 running glitch thing, you get used to it. I think I've put in maybe 6 hours so far and I haven't noticed it since I got off of the Emerald Isle. Protection spells of all varieties are a priority in this game.
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Mar 15, 2011 23:52
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Tufty posted:Also, how can I get more money? Spells and skills are expensive. Acromage and quests. If you feel like grinding, there's the merchant runs. You can find vendors selling huge crates of various items and supplies all over. If you deliver the stuff you bought to some other vendor elsewhere in the world, you net a small profit for every box.
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Mar 16, 2011 00:17
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scamtank posted:Acromage and quests. If you feel like grinding, there's the merchant runs. You can find vendors selling huge crates of various items and supplies all over. If you deliver the stuff you bought to some other vendor elsewhere in the world, you net a small profit for every box. I noticed a couple of the traders, I might do a few runs for some cash. How do I get an Acromage deck though? And how can I steal all the poo poo in the treasure room above the waterfall in Stonecity without getting the whole dwarven race on my rear end?
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Mar 16, 2011 00:19
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Tufty posted:I noticed a couple of the traders, I might do a few runs for some cash. How do I get an Acromage deck though? And how can I steal all the poo poo in the treasure room above the waterfall in Stonecity without getting the whole dwarven race on my rear end? I don't think there's any way to avoid the Stone City alarm. You can get the goods and scram without incident using the Invisibility spell (Air, Master), but I'm not sure how long it takes for the city to reset to a non-hostile state.
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Mar 16, 2011 00:30
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Dominic White posted:Newer. It originally came out 2009, but was really rushed out. It got an expanded re-released version called Dragon Knight Saga in late 2010, which was a huge improvement. Yep, and I was one of the idiots who bought it the first time. But it's ok, I get a discount! I paid Ģ30 the first time and to get what's basically a big patch, it'll "only" cost Ģ20 thanks to the 33% discount (which doesn't stack on actual sales). So Ģ50 for DKS2... I think not lovely developer.  (yes it still hurts even after all this time)Still looking forward to playing it's predecessors on GOG when I have infinite free time.
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Mar 16, 2011 00:35
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There's some stupid copy protection problem in Battle Isle 2 right now that makes the first mission unwinnable. Enemy units wipe out yours in every encounter. BI3 is still playable though and the FMV is horrific.
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Mar 16, 2011 17:32
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BillWh0re posted:BI3 is still playable though and the FMV is horrific. Might I direct your attention to BI3/SDI/DATA/SHOW/SHADOW.AVI When I was little I thought this was the coolest thing. I am ashamed of you past-Furret Basket.
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Mar 16, 2011 18:30
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Furret Basket posted:Might I direct your attention to BI3/SDI/DATA/SHOW/SHADOW.AVI Early FMV was so cool at the time. Now, it's hilarious. Unfortunately there seems to be a small resurgence of terrible FMV adventure games, such as DarkStar. Whyyyyyy?
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Mar 16, 2011 19:00
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Dominic White posted:Early FMV was so cool at the time. Now, it's hilarious. Unfortunately there seems to be a small resurgence of terrible FMV adventure games, such as DarkStar. Whyyyyyy? ehm, made by a large part of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 crew and narrated by Peter 'Biography' Graves? Colour me interested.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:12
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Dissapointed Owl posted:ehm, made by a large part of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 crew and narrated by Peter 'Biography' Graves? Colour me interested. EDIT: Maybe not! After seeing them goof on so many bad sci-fi movies you'd hope they'd know what to avoid. It would have been cool to see a tongue-in-cheek game with more practical sets and effects. Corin Tucker's Stalker fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Mar 16, 2011 |
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Mar 16, 2011 19:17
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Dissapointed Owl posted:ehm, made by a large part of the Mystery Science Theater 3000 crew and narrated by Peter 'Biography' Graves? Colour me interested. I watched Spoony playing it live. It's possibly the slowest, most turgid FMV adventure I've seen in at least 15 years. It's also very buggy and there's several ways to (intentionally or otherwise) back yourself into Sierra-esque no-win situations.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:19
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Yeah I discovered DarkStar a while ago and was reaaally interested in it due to the people in the cutscenes and just the idea of a modern FMV game. Unfortunately the review at adventure gamers really put me off. Seems they use really archaic stuff like the whole game being built around the Quicktime player and having the same cursor for every single interaction, regardless of if it's simple movement or actually doing something. Such a shame.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:21
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Yeah, it looks (and plays - I had Spoony on in the background for ages, so I saw most of it) JUST like a first-generation FMV adventure. You click somewhere, you get a looooooong 'walking somewhere' animation, it stops, you click something else and probably nothing happens. Or something very slow and pointless. It's largely trial and error, and a lot of the puzzles are shockingly illogical. Also, that 'great, immersive sci-fi story' they talk about? I'll give them that for the background material, which is entirely optional and you can skip in-game. The actual plot itself is an incoherent trainwreck that ends with you being rescued by a Deus Ex Machina that happens to be a flirty toaster (no joke) and a complete anticlimax of an ending. Dominic White fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Mar 16, 2011 |
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Mar 16, 2011 19:25
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You guys know everything about old strategy games: could someone give me a few hints for Incubation, like how the skill point system works and what gear to get? The manual is pretty unhelpful.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:34
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Dominic White posted:Yeah, it looks (and plays - I had Spoony on in the background for ages, so I saw most of it) JUST like a first-generation FMV adventure. You click somewhere, you get a looooooong 'walking somewhere' animation, it stops, you click something else and probably nothing happens. Or something very slow and pointless.
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Mar 16, 2011 19:37
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Thompsons posted:You guys know everything about old strategy games: could someone give me a few hints for Incubation, like how the skill point system works and what gear to get? The manual is pretty unhelpful.
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Mar 16, 2011 20:02
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kuddles posted:That's because it started development around the same time as most other FMV games, and all the footage was filmed years ago back when video needed to be compressed to fit on a single CD. The development studio fell apart and it was basically just one guy finishing it in his spare time for the past decade or so. Darkstar is basically the Duke Nukem of adventure games. Do you suppose that guy never noticed that everybody else quit?
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Mar 16, 2011 21:20
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I'm thinking about picking up Gothic 2 (I assume that's the best point of entry to the series?) and was wondering if there was any reason to get it on GOG (my preference) vs. Steam?
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Mar 17, 2011 01:33
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h_double posted:I'm thinking about picking up Gothic 2 (I assume that's the best point of entry to the series?) and was wondering if there was any reason to get it on GOG (my preference) vs. Steam? I don't know if the steam version is any better, but play gothic 1 first. 2's definitely a better game imo but 1 definitely has it's moments. Oh forget about 3 and 4 happening. Well maybe play 3 if you can deal with how they changed the game mechanics. Or you could play Risen instead (what I'm doing).
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Mar 17, 2011 03:02
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GoldenNugget posted:I don't know if the steam version is any better, but play gothic 1 first. 2's definitely a better game imo but 1 definitely has it's moments. They really screwed the combat on Gothic 3 (dumbed down to boring click feast), but it has a huge open world full of detail and tons of poo poo to do, so its also a great game, although not has good as 2. Or can be, if you can bear the endless loading times. Still, better than Oblivion, or The Witcher.
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Mar 17, 2011 03:43
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Gothic 3 is only playable with the huge community patch, but with that it's actually pretty drat good.
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Mar 17, 2011 05:49
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Wow, Incubation is a lot like X-Com. Except really not fun.
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Mar 17, 2011 06:59
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Speaking of X-Com-y games, any word on Shadow Watch? I played it once or twice back when Gametap was good and loved it. It had a neat art style and while not really being very X-com-y in terms of anything but the fact it's turn based and isometric it was really fun. I'd love to see it on GOG. Hell, who even owns the license?
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Mar 17, 2011 07:10
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Considering it's Tom Clancy, I'd imagine it's probably under Ubisoft's control now. Maybe we'll see it added to the roster at some point.
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Mar 17, 2011 07:31
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Thompsons posted:Wow, Incubation is a lot like X-Com. Except really not fun. It's really very little like X-Com (aside from trying to keep recruits alive between missions), and much more like Space Hulk.
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Mar 17, 2011 08:19
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Man, I've just been playing through the other Battle Isle games and this feels like ten dollars I'm never getting back: all of these titles are really clunky and tedious versions of much better games I already own (Advance Wars, X-Com, etc.).
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Mar 17, 2011 22:37
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Thompsons posted:Man, I've just been playing through the other Battle Isle games and this feels like ten dollars I'm never getting back: all of these titles are really clunky and tedious versions of much better games I already own (Advance Wars, X-Com, etc.). I suspect GOG's biggest asset is nostalgia: Hardly any of these games are as good as we remember them, and specifically for those of us who haven't ever played these games in the first place, a title has to be REALLY well made to not feel dated 10 or 20 years later.
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Mar 17, 2011 23:01
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Thompsons posted:Wow, Incubation is a lot like X-Com. Except really not fun. Not true, that game owns. Major tip that I can remember: Alternate fire on flamethrowers (once you get them) is really powerful. There's a mission where you fight a big baddie that's pretty much impossible otherwise and quite simple with flamethrower alternate fire.
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Centipeed posted:I suspect GOG's biggest asset is nostalgia: Hardly any of these games are as good as we remember them, and specifically for those of us who haven't ever played these games in the first place, a title has to be REALLY well made to not feel dated 10 or 20 years later. I don't know; that's certainly the case with some, perhaps even many of their games, but they also have enough legitimately excellent games that have aged well that I wouldn't be comfortable calling the selection "hardly any". I mean, just off the top of my head - - Ground Control 1 and 2 - Descent 1 and 3 - Age of Wonders SM - Fallout 1 and 2 - Arcanum - Planescape Torment - Psychonauts - Freespace 1 and 2 - HoMM 2 and 3 - Myst and Riven - Total Annihilation - Unreal, UT and UT2k4 - King's Bounty TL - Independence War 1 and 2 ...and those are just the ones I can think of in thirty seconds and have personally played. (And it's not all nostalgia; about half of those I didn't play until they showed up on GOG.) Granted, some of them have only aged as well as they have or are as good as they are thanks to unofficial patches (Arcanum, Torment) or engine remakes (Descent, both Freespace games), but my point stands. ToxicFrog fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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Thompsons posted:Man, I've just been playing through the other Battle Isle games and this feels like ten dollars I'm never getting back: all of these titles are really clunky and tedious versions of much better games I already own (Advance Wars, X-Com, etc.). Yeah Incubation is really no-money-for-license Space Hulk and it does it brilliantly. You have high powered weaponry and ludicrously frail units fighting stuff that dies quickly but can tear you apart if they ever flank you. As for the Battle Isle games, #1 is very clunky compared to modern games, but #2 is still incredibly fun especially in multiplayer. #3 is when the series started to go super-hardcore, but if you want to fight with dozens of different units that all have their niche on a giant map where terrain, ammo and fuel matters it's the best thing ever.
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