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FitFortDanga posted:Allegedly the date for the LOTR set is June 28th. This page at Amazon has a comparison chart with all the previous releases. I can't figure it out from that page; will the EE blu-ray set include the theatricals? I only recently saw the movies and loved them, and I know that most seem to prefer the EEs but it's always nice to have the option.
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Criminal Minded posted:I can't figure it out from that page; will the EE blu-ray set include the theatricals? I only recently saw the movies and loved them, and I know that most seem to prefer the EEs but it's always nice to have the option. Gonna guess there will be yet another super mega ultimate gently caress-you set in, let's say November 2012 that has both extended and theatrical cuts with new retrospective special features in HD.
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Mar 17, 2011 02:01
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FitFortDanga posted:Allegedly the date for the LOTR set is June 28th. This page at Amazon has a comparison chart with all the previous releases. That is an incredibly nice looking set that really makes me wish I enjoyed these movies.
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Mar 17, 2011 02:29
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I'm hoping for an excellent sound mix. I heard some people didn't care what was put on the theatrical blu-ray set that it was a step down from the DTS track included on the DVD release.
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Mar 17, 2011 03:03
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TheSwami posted:Gonna guess there will be yet another super mega ultimate gently caress-you set in, let's say November 2012 that has both extended and theatrical cuts with new retrospective special features in HD. No, the ULTIMATE gently caress-you set will be the whole shebang with both Hobbit movies.
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Mar 17, 2011 03:26
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FitFortDanga posted:No, the ULTIMATE gently caress-you set will be the whole shebang with both Hobbit movies. e: Upon looking it up, it appears you are correct, there will be two parts, starring Tim from The Office (UK) as Bilbo. I don't really understand why a 300 page book needs two movies, but I guess we'll have to see. Jeff Wiiver fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Mar 17, 2011 |
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Mar 17, 2011 03:27
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Jeff Wiiver posted:There's going to to be two Hobbit movies? Why? $$$$$$$$
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Mar 17, 2011 04:24
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Jeff Wiiver posted:There's going to to be two Hobbit movies? Why? When approximately 45 minutes of each movie is going to be just sweeping vistas with some bombastic orchestral score and a bunch of dwarves and a hobbit crossing a field, it's a wonder we aren't get three movies instead of two.
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Which is the blu-ray edition of Terminator 2 to get? There's so loving many I can never keep straight which one is supposed to be the best.
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Mar 17, 2011 09:40
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Criminal Minded posted:Which is the blu-ray edition of Terminator 2 to get? There's so loving many I can never keep straight which one is supposed to be the best. You want the Skynet Edition.
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Mar 17, 2011 11:34
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Most important question - will the LotR EEs be on 1 disc each, or split between 2?
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Criminal Minded posted:Which is the blu-ray edition of Terminator 2 to get? There's so loving many I can never keep straight which one is supposed to be the best. Get the Terminator 2/Total Recall 2 pack. It's $11.50 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B0041QSZAG
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Mar 17, 2011 17:41
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TheSwami posted:Gonna guess there will be yet another super mega ultimate gently caress-you set in, let's say November 2012 that has both extended and theatrical cuts with new retrospective special features in HD. Jackson's already stated that there's tons of bonus material that wasn't included on the DVD extended editions, including some additional deleted scenes IIRC. I was assuming that they'd break it out for these, but it looks like they're indeed waiting for that additional Ultimate set.
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Mar 17, 2011 17:58
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Crackbone posted:Most important question - will the LotR EEs be on 1 disc each, or split between 2? The image above and the Amazon listing says 15 discs. Given the list of Special Features, it looks like the EEs are spread across 2 Blu-Rays and then there are 3 DVDs for the features. Costa Botes Documentary: The Fellowship of the Ring: Behind the Scenes (DVD) The Appendices, Part 1: From Book to Vision (DVD) The Appendices, Part 2: From Vision to Reality (DVD) Costas Botes documentary: The Two Towers--Behind the Scenes (DVD) The Appendices, Part 3: The Journey Continues (DVD) The Appendices, Part 4: The Battle for Middle Earth (DVD) Costas Botes documentary: The Return of the King: Behind the Scenes (DVD) The Appendices, Part 5: The War of the Ring (DVD) The Appendices, Part 6: The Passing of an Age (DVD)
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Mar 17, 2011 18:05
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I really hope they're not split onto 2 Blu-rays each. Even if RotK is pushing it, doesn't multi-layer technology give them a pretty huge safety net?
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Mar 17, 2011 18:24
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I may be wrong about this, but I think Once Upon a Time in America suffered a dip in quality because they put it on one disc. If they can make it look and sound better, I wouldn't really mind the LOTR extended editions being split up.
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Mar 17, 2011 18:27
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frumpsnake posted:it looks like the EEs are spread across 2 Blu-Rays and then there are 3 DVDs for the features. Not cool. I don't want to have to remux these suckers together manually. Sir Lemming posted:I really hope they're not split onto 2 Blu-rays each. Even if RotK is pushing it, doesn't multi-layer technology give them a pretty huge safety net? Kull the Conqueror posted:I may be wrong about this, but I think Once Upon a Time in America suffered a dip in quality because they put it on one disc. If they can make it look and sound better, I wouldn't really mind the LOTR extended editions being split up. They could do it. Avatar extended was just a hair under 3 hours and every reviewer jizzed themselves over the quality. It's a question of somebody doing a meticulous encode on it. I'm sure Cameron probably demanded it where Jackson probably doesn't care/have the pull to do the same. OUaTiA quality was probably due to time/resources for a low-demand flick more than anything else. Crackbone fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Mar 17, 2011 |
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Mar 17, 2011 18:47
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Eh, with the extended edition, I think of it as 6 movies now. So it's perfect for me since I can pop in a disc, watch it all the way to the end, and pop in the other another night. How many of you will really watch the whole extended edition (of any of the films) in one sitting, without pausing or taking a break?
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Mar 17, 2011 19:34
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Ineffiable posted:Eh, with the extended edition, I think of it as 6 movies now. So it's perfect for me since I can pop in a disc, watch it all the way to the end, and pop in the other another night. Me. Always. Movies are not to be broken up. 
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Mar 17, 2011 19:42
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Ineffiable posted:How many of you will really watch the whole extended edition (of any of the films) in one sitting, without pausing or taking a break? Exactly. I like the "intermission" breaks anyways, and I would rather they split both halves of each film to get the highest quality possible. I just roll my eyes when people ask me why tv shows are still on several discs. "Why can't they fit all episodes on that 50 gig space???". Yeah they could do that and then they would look terribly compressed. The whole point of blu ray is more quality and not the ability to have whole series on one disc. That won't happen till those holographic video discs I have read about become the new blu ray. At that point with a terabyte of space is when you might start seeing whole tv shows on one disc.
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Mar 17, 2011 19:48
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Ineffiable posted:How many of you will really watch the whole extended edition (of any of the films) in one sitting, without pausing or taking a break? It's the principle of it, man. ApexAftermath posted:I just roll my eyes when people ask me why tv shows are still on several discs. "Why can't they fit all episodes on that 50 gig space???". Yeah they could do that and then they would look terribly compressed. For SD shows or animation though, it's a valid question.
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Mar 17, 2011 20:12
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Crackbone posted:For SD shows or animation though, it's a valid question. What do you mean? Wouldn't most shows be shot on film or some comparable digital format? Even if it is broadcast in crappy SD wouldn't the original elements be suited for HD? And if they are not suited for HD then why put them on blu ray at all? Seems like a worthless exercise.
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ApexAftermath posted:I just roll my eyes when people ask me why tv shows are still on several discs. "Why can't they fit all episodes on that 50 gig space???". Yeah they could do that and then they would look terribly compressed. The whole point of blu ray is more quality and not the ability to have whole series on one disc. When it comes to TV, I prefer a happy medium. I love what they did the Prisoner set and the Twilight Zones. I'm hoping (probably in vain) for a complete Seinfeld collection that doesn't take up the same amount of space as 20-25 DVDs.
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In other news, looks like Our Hospitality is a bit underwhelming. C'mon Kino, don't start reverting to your old ways.
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FitFortDanga posted:When it comes to TV, I prefer a happy medium. I love what they did the Prisoner set and the Twilight Zones. I'm hoping (probably in vain) for a complete Seinfeld collection that doesn't take up the same amount of space as 20-25 DVDs. Didn't they do new HD masters for Seinfeld? If those are the ones they play on TBS I would rather they stick to multi-disc and give us those HD episodes on Blu Ray. Honestly who cares about switching discs? I would rather have higher quality and have to get off my rear end to swap a disc any day.
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ApexAftermath posted:Didn't they do new HD masters for Seinfeld? If those are the ones they play on TBS I would rather they stick to multi-disc and give us those HD episodes on Blu Ray. Honestly who cares about switching discs? I would rather have higher quality and have to get off my rear end to swap a disc any day. It's not about getting off my rear end to swap a disc, it's about shelf space.
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ApexAftermath posted:What do you mean? Wouldn't most shows be shot on film or some comparable digital format? Even if it is broadcast in crappy SD wouldn't the original elements be suited for HD? And if they are not suited for HD then why put them on blu ray at all? Seems like a worthless exercise. Older shows may not have HD sources readily available anymore, and for primetime animation even in HD the resulting size is lower than live action. Star Trek TNG, for example - all the effects were all rendered onto SD quality video, so there's no HD versions available.
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ApexAftermath posted:What do you mean? Wouldn't most shows be shot on film or some comparable digital format? Even if it is broadcast in crappy SD wouldn't the original elements be suited for HD? And if they are not suited for HD then why put them on blu ray at all? Seems like a worthless exercise. If it's actual film/cels they can do it, if it's '90s era digital/video they're often stuck with SD. Anyway, I thought it was possible to slap more layers onto a Blu-ray with the worst possible consequence being a firmware update, but maybe that tech isn't available for mass-production yet.
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Sir Lemming posted:If it's actual film/cels they can do it, if it's '90s era digital/video they're often stuck with SD. I think triple layer was mostly dick-swinging when HD-DVD announced it could do dual layer discs. The headaches of production/firmware updates for all players just doesn't make sense vs. just sticking another disc in the box.
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ApexAftermath posted:What do you mean? Wouldn't most shows be shot on film or some comparable digital format? Even if it is broadcast in crappy SD wouldn't the original elements be suited for HD? And if they are not suited for HD then why put them on blu ray at all? Seems like a worthless exercise. It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is shot on an SD camera and the Blu-Ray image is barely any better than the DVDs and takes up the same number of disks. It would be nice to have that all on one disk. That is the first example that I can think of.
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FitFortDanga posted:In other news, looks like Our Hospitality is a bit underwhelming. C'mon Kino, don't start reverting to your old ways. Looks good to me. Keaton's films wildly vary in best surviving elements. Our Hospitality probably doesn't have a beautiful fine-grain to work from like The General or Sherlock Jr., plus it's not as big of a title. It's a pity Warner doesn't license since The Cameraman would be perfect Blu material.
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Fat Lou posted:It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is shot on an SD camera and the Blu-Ray image is barely any better than the DVDs and takes up the same number of disks. It would be nice to have that all on one disk. That is the first example that I can think of. I wouldn't pay the premium of blu ray if I wasn't getting a quality increase over the dvd. I bet the always sunny blu costs more too. If someone is that hard up for shelf space then I have to wonder what they are doing buying blu ray in the first place if buying more shelves is an issue.
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Crackbone posted:Older shows may not have HD sources readily available anymore, and for primetime animation even in HD the resulting size is lower than live action. I haven't heard anything recently, but I know they were talking about reediting TNG for HD. They said it wouldn't be that hard, they would simply have to recomposite all the shots since everything was shot on film, and the way that they did it makes it very easy for them to do the whole thing over again. I don't know what the status on that project is, if there's anything holding it up. I know there is one episode mastered in HD, but as of yet, I haven't heard anything (I'm guessing if it is going to be done in near future, it will either be released in time for the 25th Anniversary of the show or the next Star Trek Movie).
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ApexAftermath posted:I wouldn't pay the premium of blu ray if I wasn't getting a quality increase over the dvd. I bet the always sunny blu costs more too. If someone is that hard up for shelf space then I have to wonder what they are doing buying blu ray in the first place if buying more shelves is an issue. It really depends on what the content is. I would imagine the idea of putting SD sourced footage on Blu-Ray would be to lessen the compression you would have to use to make it fit on DVD along with the bonus of getting less discs. SD animation would work well...or maybe something like Spaced where they could jam all three DVDs onto 1 single layer Blu-Ray (which would hopefully result in a lower price) Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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It is not in the studios' interest to cram SD TV show episodes on a Blu-ray disc. In terms of cost savings, there is probably little-to-none. DVD manufacturing is rear end cheap, so there are arguably situations where studios use MORE discs than are necessary to inflate the perceived "worth" of a set and justify a higher MSRP - so clearly the number of discs per set is not breaking the studio bank. And Blu-ray discs are more expensive to manufacture than DVDs anyway, so any savings from smaller disc count is immediately tossed out the window. And producing a Blu-ray set requires the studio spend extra money to author and verify the BD discs. And even from a package cost perspective - have you seen how small they've gotten DVD cases now? 6-disc seasons of 24 or whatever fit in cases that are the exact size of a standard 1-disc DVD case. And even if somehow the price to manufacture the BD set with fewer discs was cheaper, they still would not charge less - Blu-ray needs to be seen as the premium product, they would not charge less than a DVD set of the same material that was still currently on the market. There is a well-documented phenomenon that people place higher internal value on things with larger pricetags - there have been products that sell better after the price has been RAISED. And there's the second issue of this practice arguably hurting the Blu-ray market. The majority of people are not terribly well informed about technology, and the nuances of such a situation could easily be lost in the more-likely scenario of "This Blu-ray looks like crap!" Yes, some existing Blu-rays have been upscaled from SD content (maybe around 5 I can think of?) but all have been pre-upscaled and exist on the disc as 1080p/24, along with lossless audio and such - this is less likely to cause consumer confusion as a) their TV and player will verify it as 1080p/24, and b) high-quality offline upscaling provides better results than online TV or player upscaling (some are REALLY terrible), and the higher bitrate budget of BD ensures less compression issues. And even this provokes extreme reactions (see: this very thread around the time of Sunny s5's release). If this was a more widespread practice, the backlash could be larger. Obviously there is SOME market for this kind of thing (random people online ask for it every now and then) but how large that market is vs. the damage in general public perception it could cause is a question no one really has the answer to. I personally don't see the point. If I'm going to buy a Blu-ray based on SD source material, I'd at least want the best audio and video possible (lossless audio, and professionaly upscaled video), in which case you aren't fitting that many more episodes on the disc. I guess if both options were on the shelf at the same time (exact same quality content, but one is on fewer Blu-ray discs) and the price was the same, perhaps I'd buy the BD option - but I don't have the smallest bit of enthusiasm for it, and I don't understand the motivations of those who do. Shelf space really an issue? Current DVD sets are no longer bulky, and if you already own them then it's cheaper to just buy said thin 6-disc cases in bulk and print your own covers. Too lazy to change the disc every 4-6 hours? No comment. Neo_Reloaded fucked around with this message at 04:03 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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Cemetry Gator posted:I haven't heard anything recently, but I know they were talking about reediting TNG for HD. They said it wouldn't be that hard, they would simply have to recomposite all the shots since everything was shot on film, and the way that they did it makes it very easy for them to do the whole thing over again. I don't know what the status on that project is, if there's anything holding it up. I know there is one episode mastered in HD, but as of yet, I haven't heard anything (I'm guessing if it is going to be done in near future, it will either be released in time for the 25th Anniversary of the show or the next Star Trek Movie). That's good to hear. I imagine it'll just take a buttload of time because of how many episodes there are, though.
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Here is something I can get on board with. It seems like FX is releasing Louie: Season 1 in the same fashion Disney is with their releases. Two disc Blu-Ray and two disc DVD in one package.  And it isn't crazy expensive ($35.99) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ASIN=B003R4ZMOK Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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Sporadic posted:Here is something I can get on board with. It seems like FX is releasing Louie: Season 1 in the same fashion Disney is with their releases. Two disc Blu-Ray and two disc DVD in one package. I wish there was a Blu-Ray only option. These Blu-Ray/DVD combos drive me loving nuts.
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Sporadic posted:Here is something I can get on board with. It seems like FX is releasing Louie: Season 1 in the same fashion Disney is with their releases. Two disc Blu-Ray and two disc DVD in one package.
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