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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
This article references a kit in the Fast Focus catalog. I haven't had that catalog in ages, so I can't confirm if it's a FRPP kit.
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=17966

That Kugel kit works with Windsors and the 8.8" SLA. Cheap, but not the most sophisticated conversion.

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Q_res
Oct 29, 2005

We're fucking built for this shit!

Advent Horizon posted:

There's a bit of confusion about that. The way I understand it, Ford Racing Performance Parts asked Kugel to do a conversion for them to showcase their crate V8.

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/1796/Ford-Focus-RS8.html

They did work with Kugel, but Ford Racing did at least some of the work themselves. Hard to say, exactly, "inspired by" is a pretty vague turn of phrase. And it was sold through FRPP catalog/dealers. I'd say that counts.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=17964

quote:

Ford Racing has even brought V8 power to the sport compact enthusiast scene. Working with Kugel Komponents, Ford Racing will offer a V8 rear-wheel drive conversion kit for the Focus. So, for those enthusiasts out there who must have V8 power, or just want to have the ultimate "sleeper" vehicle, this is it.

So, yeah, ambiguous.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


kimbo305 posted:

Cheap, but not the most sophisticated conversion.

The end result is a hatchback with RWD and a bigass V8. Sophistication and subtlety are irrelevant.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

KozmoNaut posted:

The end result is a hatchback with RWD and a bigass V8. Sophistication and subtlety are irrelevant.
Not really. A car that drives well is always better than one that doesn't, no matter what it is.

extreme_accordion
Apr 9, 2009
California I hate you and your access to cheap rust free Datsun & Nissan Z's.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/2268794353.html

It's in that 70's brown/gold and could be real gold.

Joe Mama
May 10, 2008

Q_res posted:

Ford sells/used to sell an official kit to convert the first-gen Focus to V8 and RWD.

MOPAR used to sell a kit to convert a K-car derivitive FWD car into a RWD with a big or small block v8 and a torqueflite.

el topo
Apr 11, 2008

by Fistgrrl
I'm guessing that those "kits" probably contain a more or less full replacement of the car's mechanics besides the chassis itself. You can't just throw a big V8 in a car built for an I4 and keep the same brake and suspension setup. Well, not if you want to make it to your destination alive. The weight distribution alone would make the car pretty much undriveable.

To say that it's a "Focus wagon" is like saying that NASCAR drivers really drive a Camry/Lumina/whatever their car's skin looks like this year. It's stretching the truth by a lot.

destructo
Apr 29, 2006

el topo posted:

I'm guessing that those "kits" probably contain a more or less full replacement of the car's mechanics besides the chassis itself. You can't just throw a big V8 in a car built for an I4 and keep the same brake and suspension setup. Well, not if you want to make it to your destination alive. The weight distribution alone would make the car pretty much undriveable.
You can when they end up weighing about the same. See: LSx swap in a Miata.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


el topo posted:

I'm guessing that those "kits" probably contain a more or less full replacement of the car's mechanics besides the chassis itself.

To say that it's a "Focus wagon" is like saying that NASCAR drivers really drive a Camry/Lumina/whatever their car's skin looks like this year. It's stretching the truth by a lot.

Legally the chassis is the car. What is it when you title it? The chassis.

As far as the DMV is concerned, it is a Ford Focus, body style wagon.

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

el topo posted:

I'm guessing that those "kits" probably contain a more or less full replacement of the car's mechanics besides the chassis itself. You can't just throw a big V8 in a car built for an I4 and keep the same brake and suspension setup. Well, not if you want to make it to your destination alive. The weight distribution alone would make the car pretty much undriveable.

It should be ok. Weight distribution would be bad, yeah, but no worse than a truck. The spring ratings would have to be uprated, and you'd have to go to SVT brakes, but nothing outside the realm of possibility.

trouser chili
Mar 27, 2002

Unnngggggghhhhh

Advent Horizon posted:

Legally the chassis is the car. What is it when you title it? The chassis.

As far as the DMV is concerned, it is a Ford Focus, body style wagon.

I thought it was the body, which in many cases today is the chassis.

For example, the VIN plate on my Scout II is stamped on the passenger-side doorjamb. Change the chassis, IE: the frame and running gear, the Scout is still the same. Change the body tub, it's a different vehicle. Kinda. There are guys that swap in glass bodies now and I don't know what in the hell they do.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


The VIN is on both the body and frame from the factory by law. Generally speaking, there is at least one copy in the door jam, one on the dash and one on the frame, usually above the passenger front wheel on the inside (where it's hard to remove).

Per Alaska statutes (I assume most places in the USA are moderately similar):

quote:

Sec. 28.10.061. Registration of vehicles with altered or missing identification number.

When the vehicle identification number required to be registered under this chapter has been altered, removed, or defaced, or is not on the vehicle, the owner shall, immediately upon discovery, apply to the department for replacement of the identification number and for a new registration. The department shall search all available sources to determine the identification number originally assigned and, if the number is determined, shall replace it. If efforts to determine the original identification number fail, the owner shall furnish information to show that the owner is entitled to ownership of the vehicle and have it inspected by the department. The department, when satisfied as to the ownership of the vehicle, shall assign an identification number to the vehicle and have the number placed upon the vehicle to which it is assigned. The vehicle shall then be registered under the replaced or assigned identification number.

Since the VIN is not on the engine, an engine swap doesn't change the vehicle. A body swap can move the tags over fairly easily (heck, one tag on GIR is missing and one is damaged beyond readability; the frame is the only number left). Thus, since the frame is basically impossible to remove without really loving with the vehicle, by default that's the tag that gets used. A body swap leaves the frame stamp intact as well, that's how the fiberglass body guys do it.

I've known guys who work the referee stations, they usually skip the BS and go straight to the frame. With that fancy welding powder stuff to check cracks they can usually get the number one way or another unless it's a new frame. In which case the owner had better have applied for that replacement number.

On unibody vehicles the body tags are usually supplemented by the number being stamped in several different places, usually at least one is visible on the firewall.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


On topic: http://juneau.craigslist.org/cto/2265969563.html

quote:

1980 Pontiac Friebird 450 hp. - $6500 (Haines Alaska 99827)

Summer is coming. It's time for some driving excitement. Smoked T-tops, 400 cu in Pontiac Bull Motor producing 450 hp on pump gas. Manageble in traffic. Full overview available upon request as far as the engine build. Engine was built from a proven recipe and professionally machined and installed.
TWO ENGINES ! It also comes with the original 301 cu in engine which has approx. 15,000 miles on a fresh overhaul and matching numbers. the 400 cu in Pontiac has logged apprx. 3500 trouble free miles.
The COMP. dual pattern extreme energy cam gives it a pleasing yoke and resembles riding inside a Harley Davidson.
4 whl. disc brakes, P. windows, Hurst Line Lock, Turbo 350 transm. with TCI 2700 stall converter and B&M shift kit. 3:73 rear axle ratio w/ 10 bolt GM positrac diff.
This car drives very nice and is as comfortable in a straight line as it is a road course.
This is NOT a TransAm, but everything a TransAm would like to be.
I accept calls only NO EMAILS. Thank you. Call Bob at 907-766-3217 shop or 766-3259 home.

I see four-hunnert-hoarspowah isn't enough anymore. Now it's got to have four-hunnert-fitty. I've always wondered what it would be like to ride inside a Harley.

Oh, and it's great in traffic because Haines DOESN'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


http://juneau.craigslist.org/cto/2265917708.html

quote:

1997 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo - $3975 (Haines Alaska 99827)

Very nice condition with 177,000 hwy miles Shows very little signs of wear both. interior and exterior. 4.0 litre 6 cylinder engine. Four wheel drive, P. strg., P. 4 whl disc brakes., tilt wheel, cruise control, Pioneer stereo w/CD player and radio.
Recent repairs include new battery, alternator, starter and a fresh tune up (plugs, cap, rotor).
Brakes have been inspected and rated good for service. Steering and suspension both good for service as well as drivelines
The engine runs very well and the transmission performs well with good shift points.. 2 sets of tires and wheels mounted and balanced summer/ winter studs.

Discrepencies and disclosure: 1). Rear tailgate wiper not working, 2).Driver's door has loose door hinge. 3). During road test a rubbing noise was noted from rear differential which seems to be ring gear side bearings, 4). Windshield is cracked. 5). Parking brake not working.

Call Bob at 907-766-3217 shop or 766-3259 home NO EMAILS PLEASE ! $3975.00 or make a reasonable offer.

I just looked it up. KBB excellent condition is $3385, and I can only assume KBB Excellent vehicles don't need a rear differential rebuild and have fully functional brakes.

Remember, it 'shows very little signs of wear' aside from the door falling off.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/2264039305.html

Ok I never even knew they made Capri versions of these. I'd say it's a steal at the price.

1984 Mclaren Capri Convertible - $9500

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Advent Horizon posted:

On topic: http://juneau.craigslist.org/cto/2265969563.html


I see four-hunnert-hoarspowah isn't enough anymore. Now it's got to have four-hunnert-fitty. I've always wondered what it would be like to ride inside a Harley.

Oh, and it's great in traffic because Haines DOESN'T HAVE ANY TRAFFIC.

Probably also doesn't have any un-rusted vehicles.

Pretty Little Rainbow
Dec 27, 2005

by T. Finn
Actual gold for 1200 bucks.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/2256975755.html

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Pretty Little Rainbow posted:

Actual gold for 1200 bucks.
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/2256975755.html



I see your Turbo Fox and raise you 5 years.
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/2271272081.html



I'm puzzled by the inset '84 lights and the "8.5" rear end, but hey, it's a runner.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

kimbo305 posted:

I see your Turbo Fox and raise you 5 years.
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/2271272081.html



I'm puzzled by the inset '84 lights and the "8.5" rear end, but hey, it's a runner.

At least yours wasn't a turbo-carb setup. :v:

Ugh, that thing was a mess (Non-EFI turbo 2.3)

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
I'm all over this:

code:
car for sale

Date: 2011-03-18, 10:13PM EDT
Reply to: [email]sale-v24gn-2273516765@craigslist.org[/email]

want to sell 

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug
Not Craigslist, but oh man.

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/18/awakened-from-slumber-1971-alfa-romeo-montreal/



Some trim pieces, mild repair, freshen up the paint a bit... :allears:

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Dicks in California still spamming Tokyo.

What I like about this one is that he thinks this thing has a chance in hell of passing inspection in Japan.

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Seat Safety Switch posted:

Not Craigslist, but oh man.

http://bringatrailer.com/2011/03/18/awakened-from-slumber-1971-alfa-romeo-montreal/



Some trim pieces, mild repair, freshen up the paint a bit... :allears:

Do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLUnpJiktzA

The Third Man
Nov 5, 2005

I know how much you like ponies so I got you a ponies avatar bro

Oh god I would work two jobs just to be able to afford to listen to that noise every time I got in my car, that is just pornography

exhaust heat
Dec 23, 2010

by Lowtax

kimbo305 posted:

I see your Turbo Fox and raise you 5 years.
http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/cto/2271272081.html



I'm puzzled by the inset '84 lights and the "8.5" rear end, but hey, it's a runner.

Didn't the SVO have 5-lug wheels?

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

exhaust heat posted:

Didn't the SVO have 5-lug wheels?

If he swapped an 8.8 from a non-SVO, that would explain it. I saw that, but couldn't say for sure from the photo if it was 4 or 5. I was definitely interested and called and texted, but first response I got was that it was sold. We'll never know.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Not sure if it's a good deal or not, but might not be out of line due to the condition it seems to be in.

http://alberta.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1973-Datsun-Z-Series-Coupe-W0QQAdIdZ267677366

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
http://wyoming.craigslist.org/cto/2275979270.html

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


http://juneau.craigslist.org/cto/2270754153.html

quote:

1993 chev lumina - $3800 (DOUGLAS)

1993 chev lumina, no rust, 17000 oriignal miles 209~8237

madattheinternet
May 8, 2004

PLEASE STOP! PLEASE!

Considering it's in Alaska, I think that the "no rust" part of that car makes up a lot more of the seller's perceived value than the low miles part. I don't care how clean it is, I'm not paying that much for it unless it's got thirty $100 bills in the glove compartment.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


Also, 'no rust' means 'only three places you can see through the body'. I've never seen anything older than 10 years here without rust, unless it was brought in from outside or freshly restored.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Also, all of those miles have been one or two miles at a time, up or down nearly vertical grades.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/2276145965.html

This thing's pretty neat.

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


VideoTapir posted:

Also, all of those miles have been one or two miles at a time, up or down nearly vertical grades.

I know you're joking, but still, the end of the road is only 45 miles away...

interwhat
Jul 23, 2005

it's kickin in dude

Raluek posted:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/2276145965.html

This thing's pretty neat.
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Wonder what plan B is.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Advent Horizon posted:

I know you're joking, but still, the end of the road is only 45 miles away...

Barely. My dad put something like 15,000 miles on his Buick Regal in a decade in Sitka and Juneau. It was in pretty sad shape by the time he was done.

edit: This is one of the reasons why I use Carfax. If a car has ever been registered in Alaska, I won't buy it. (Well, if I'm not in Alaska.)

VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Mar 21, 2011

Rontalvos
Feb 22, 2006
I now present the worst craigslist spam post I have ever seen. This is on a 1680x1050 monitor and I had to downsize the text a few clicks to get it all to fit on screen.

http://i.imgur.com/sXAxq.jpg

MrSaturn
Sep 8, 2004

Go ahead, laugh. They all laugh at first...
Holy crap. They even spammed tabs along the top of your browser!

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SwashedBuckles
Aug 10, 2007

Have at you!

Underneath all of that crappy flat black primer is a cavalier. No sir, you may not have $4500 for that

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