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Big Mean Jerk posted:I'm still waiting for a canon explanation for why Lando pronounces Han's name like hand minus the d. Because it is 
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A Typical Goon posted:Its like a cannon back in the day. You can line the cannon up against a fort, but if infantry attack the cannon it's going to be hard to hit them with a cannonball. That's what grapeshot is for. 
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Mar 21, 2011 08:12
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Have we talked about the fact that Lucas wanted Kurosawa's muse Toshiro Mifune to play Obi-Wan Kenobi at one point? There's no denying the perfection of Alec in the role but that would make a curious alternate reality.
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Mar 21, 2011 08:22
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NGL posted:Arvel Crynyd or something to that effect. Why do I know that? In Fight Club, Tyler Durden talks about how knowing what a plaid is is exemplary for the kind of useless information that keeps you from being a real bro, or some such. I'd quite like to hear Mr. Durden's thoughts on Arvel Crynyd.
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Mar 21, 2011 14:07
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that awful man posted:That's what grapeshot is for. Why do they always pick Medieval Fantasy settings anyways? why not something the Renaissance or afterwards.
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Mar 21, 2011 14:50
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Slantedfloors posted:It looks more like it the weapons are located on the equator, meaning it can't fire more than 10% of them at one target just because they're not all pointed in the same direction. Presumably it rotates to bring fresh torpedo tubes into position. That's why I gave them the benefit of the doubt at first. Then I found that they could all aim at the weak point of a planet's shields at once. I guess it depends on how large the weak point is, but if it's bigger than capitol ships then that just raises further questions.
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Mar 21, 2011 15:49
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SeanBeansShako posted:Why do they always pick Medieval Fantasy settings anyways? why not something the Renaissance or afterwards. Pbbt. Sure, that'd be fun. Join our heroes on an epic quest across Renaissance Italy to return the One Brush to its resting place in the Apostolic Palace so Michelangelo can finish the Sistine Chapel's ceiling. Thrill at the merchants trying to haggle goods onto the hero. Gasp at the new and bold art forms. Wonder at the new methods of Science.
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Mar 21, 2011 17:25
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Astribulus posted:That's why I gave them the benefit of the doubt at first. Then I found that they could all aim at the weak point of a planet's shields at once. I guess it depends on how large the weak point is, but if it's bigger than capitol ships then that just raises further questions. The real question is why they had to build a gigantic super-ship to mount that many torpedo bays, given that it was considered plausible for a mid-sized space station to mount 4/5 of that amount in the Rogue Squadron books.
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Mar 21, 2011 18:50
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Silver Brushes posted:Have we talked about the fact that Lucas wanted Kurosawa's muse Toshiro Mifune to play Obi-Wan Kenobi at one point? There's no denying the perfection of Alec in the role but that would make a curious alternate reality. Holy crap, that would be amazing. Sanjuro in Star Wars would make me freak out and explode.
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Mar 21, 2011 19:10
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Slantedfloors posted:The real question is why they had to build a gigantic super-ship to mount that many torpedo bays, given that it was considered plausible for a mid-sized space station to mount 4/5 of that amount in the Rogue Squadron books. Torpedo Spheres have wonderful other weirdness, too, like a size ranging from 1900 meters to more than four times that. They all have the same armament, still dispersed along the equator. All things considered, there's probably a reason why the only stories that ever even mentioned these things were The Glove of Darth Vader and Children of the Jedi.
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Mar 21, 2011 21:54
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Silver Brushes posted:Have we talked about the fact that Lucas wanted Kurosawa's muse Toshiro Mifune to play Obi-Wan Kenobi at one point? There's no denying the perfection of Alec in the role but that would make a curious alternate reality. He was also approached to play the lead Klingon in the original attempt to create a Star Trek movie in the 70s.
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Mar 21, 2011 22:32
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I heard a rumor once that Lucas considered buying Star Trek from Roddenberry back in the 70s. Could've been interesting...
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Mar 22, 2011 01:05
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Mister Roboto posted:I heard a rumor once that Lucas considered buying Star Trek from Roddenberry back in the 70s.  I've never heard this before. That's incredible. My mind is pretty much exploding trying to think of what that would be like. I do remember reading somewhere about Roddenberry giving Lucas advice on merchandising. Chairman Capone fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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Mar 22, 2011 01:35
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Chairman Capone posted:I do remember reading somewhere about Roddenberry giving Lucas advice on merchandising. I'd be willing to believe it. Roddenberry obviously never attained merchandising nirvana on the level of a Lucas, but he could shill with the best of them. Toward the end of Star Trek's run, he dreamed up a Vulcan insignia pin and had Spock wear it in an episode:  The ENTIRE purpose of this thing was to get one more item that the rabid fans would all buy from his mail order company. And it worked, too -- all that stuff's still selling. His son is running the company now, still selling phasers and plush tribbles and even the Vulcan insignia pin.
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Powered Descent posted:I'd be willing to believe it. Roddenberry obviously never attained merchandising nirvana on the level of a Lucas, but he could shill with the best of them. Toward the end of Star Trek's run, he dreamed up a Vulcan insignia pin and had Spock wear it in an episode: Roddenberry also wrote some lovely, never-performed lyrics to the Star Trek theme so he could collect half the royalties on it.
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Mar 22, 2011 03:06
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 This is why Roddenberry never got to make Star Wars money. Also, I think his successors tried but it's hard to sell action figures of a bartender and a rational humanist pacifist captain who uses violence as a last resort. EDIT: Attempts to repackage old Spencer for Hire Hawk action figures was not successful either. Not even a hand cannon can excite the kids. RocknRollaAyatollah fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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Mar 22, 2011 03:48
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I dunno, that kid looks like he's having a lot of space fun.
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Mar 22, 2011 04:39
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I'm trying to imagine how they could have fit that helmet into the series. I mean, the movies had this so anything could have been possible.
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Mar 22, 2011 04:49
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Der Luftwaffle posted:I'm trying to imagine how they could have fit that helmet into the series. I mean, the movies had this I've never seen Judge Dredd because I'm not a Stallone fan, Rob Schneider was in it, and it generally looked like poo poo.
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that awful man posted:I've never seen Judge Dredd because I'm not a Stallone fan, Rob Schneider was in it, and it generally looked like poo poo. 
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Mister Roboto posted:Edit:  Fact: This is not even the first or last time Judge Dredd annihilates an entire city of defenseless people. He does it like once every two years. Fact: Judge Dredd once got into a pissing match with one of his villians over who was a bigger War Criminal. Slantedfloors fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Mar 22, 2011 |
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Mar 22, 2011 06:08
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Barudak posted:The Galaxy is a big place. I'm sure there are regional accents/local variations on names in Basic. Or knowing the EU, they were subtle information about how we could know they were spies/good guys/involved in stealing the Death Star plans. Think about this: Luke is our everyman character, with whom we discover the wonders of the galaxy. He sounds normal, and pronounces everything normal. We are all speaking Tatooinese.
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Mar 22, 2011 06:47
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Except the British. They are speaking pure evil. (or Coruscanti). Also Luke should have spoken like a redneck.
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I'm at University studying Film and TV Production, and we've recently covered the obligatory Auteur theory module. This got me thinking; is George Lucas the ultimate auteur? He has almost complete control over all his work, he goes back and makes changes to his films despite audiences disdain because they are 'HIS' and most of his films all contain similar motifs; a young mans transition into adulthood and responsibility. I wonder if Lucas supports the notion of himself as an auteur because afterall; he despised the Hollywood system etc. Any ideas?
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Mar 22, 2011 14:30
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Slantedfloors posted:I'm glad I wasn't the only one looking around for that. Didn't he also shoot down Santa Claus for violating the city's airspace?
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Mar 22, 2011 18:37
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NeonTurtle posted:Didn't he also shoot down Santa Claus for violating the city's airspace? Yes. He also completely obliterated an alternate universe where mankind had transcended base aggression and lived in harmony.
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Mar 22, 2011 19:03
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Slantedfloors posted:Yes. He also completely obliterated an alternate universe where mankind had transcended base aggression and lived in harmony. I think the depravity of the villains he fought really hammers in how bad he is. Like, just how bad they have to be to make him be the good guy.
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BonHair posted:Also Luke should have spoken like a redneck. He kind of did, if I recall correctly.
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Slantedfloors posted:Yes. He also completely obliterated an alternate universe where mankind had transcended base aggression and lived in harmony. Eh, gently caress those guys. They think they're better than us?
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dogflaps posted:I'm at University studying Film and TV Production, and we've recently covered the obligatory Auteur theory module. This got me thinking; is George Lucas the ultimate auteur? He has almost complete control over all his work, he goes back and makes changes to his films despite audiences disdain because they are 'HIS' and most of his films all contain similar motifs; a young mans transition into adulthood and responsibility. Yes but not in the french new wave sense. He ultimately is making a mass market piece rather than exploring ideas. After THX, he loses the exploration of the human experience in lieu of populist storytelling. James Cameron is in the same boat, a super talented populist who controls HIS movies to the deepest degree, but ultimately what separates them from being true auteur's is allegiance to commercialism. If you read the J.W. Rinzler books Making of Star Wars and Making of Empire Strikes Back you'll find the answer is very much yes- and no. They are GREAT reads.
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TheBigBad posted:Yes but not in the french new wave sense. He ultimately is making a mass market piece rather than exploring ideas. After THX, he loses the exploration of the human experience in lieu of populist storytelling. James Cameron is in the same boat, a super talented populist who controls HIS movies to the deepest degree, but ultimately what separates them from being true auteur's is allegiance to commercialism. If you read the J.W. Rinzler books Making of Star Wars and Making of Empire Strikes Back you'll find the answer is very much yes- and no. They are GREAT reads. I would read it, but the only copy of it in ANY Michigan library isn't available for Inter-library loan.
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TheBigBad posted:Yes but not in the french new wave sense. He ultimately is making a mass market piece rather than exploring ideas. After THX, he loses the exploration of the human experience in lieu of populist storytelling. James Cameron is in the same boat, a super talented populist who controls HIS movies to the deepest degree, but ultimately what separates them from being true auteur's is allegiance to commercialism. If you read the J.W. Rinzler books Making of Star Wars and Making of Empire Strikes Back you'll find the answer is very much yes- and no. They are GREAT reads. Those are great reads, but I'd also suggest The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski. The guy's research is incredible, and what sounds like could have ended up as the sperging rants of a conspiracy theorist is actually a fascinating look at how the story and the intent Lucas had in making the films evolved over time. From starting as a tribute to old-school adventure movies, to, after film critics came out trying to attach greater meaning to Star Wars, claiming he researched myth from over 1000 years to create basic archetypes we could all identify with. Also, his near break after Empire leading to reigning in his production crew for Jedi, making an almost remake of Star Wars and inserting more options for toys with the Ewoks. I wish there were more books like this for other movies, not just Star Wars. I love behind the scenes looks at movies. All of his stuff is taken from earlier versions of the scripts, old interview, official statements that were later contradicted, etc. It's a great book.
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thrawn527 posted:Those are great reads, but I'd also suggest The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski. The guy's research is incredible, and what sounds like could have ended up as the sperging rants of a conspiracy theorist is actually a fascinating look at how the story and the intent Lucas had in making the films evolved over time. From starting as a tribute to old-school adventure movies, to, after film critics came out trying to attach greater meaning to Star Wars, claiming he researched myth from over 1000 years to create basic archetypes we could all identify with. Also, his near break after Empire leading to reigning in his production crew for Jedi, making an almost remake of Star Wars and inserting more options for toys with the Ewoks. Seconding this, I'm only about 100 pages into it, but Secret History of Star Wars has been a very interesting read so far!
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So, you guys seen that College Humor Troopers mini series yet?
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SeanBeansShako posted:So, you guys seen that College Humor Troopers mini series yet? Why do they do the "this is not star wars *wink*" thing with the aesthetics and the names (e.g. Magi)? They did that Death Star 9/11 sketch.
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You know you're a Star Wars nerd when your State Farm agent sends you a gift card and in the notarized letter with the State Farm logo has you as "Gilead Pellaeon" helping "Natasi Daala" save some money by referring her to your agent. Shes gonna need it for all the goddamn Super Star Destroyers shes wrecking.
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I don't recall if anyone here read Knight Errant yet?
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RagnarokAngel posted:Why do they do the "this is not star wars *wink*" thing with the aesthetics and the names (e.g. Magi)? They did that Death Star 9/11 sketch. Maybe they plan to sell DVDs or something.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Why do they do the "this is not star wars *wink*" thing with the aesthetics and the names (e.g. Magi)? They did that Death Star 9/11 sketch. I kinda like it, you know people would just sperg at them if they got something wrong pointlessly anyways. Plus replica Star Wars costumes like Stormtrooper armour are loving expensive to buy.
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thrawn527 posted:Those are great reads, but I'd also suggest The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski. The guy's research is incredible, and what sounds like could have ended up as the sperging rants of a conspiracy theorist is actually a fascinating look at how the story and the intent Lucas had in making the films evolved over time. From starting as a tribute to old-school adventure movies, to, after film critics came out trying to attach greater meaning to Star Wars, claiming he researched myth from over 1000 years to create basic archetypes we could all identify with. Also, his near break after Empire leading to reigning in his production crew for Jedi, making an almost remake of Star Wars and inserting more options for toys with the Ewoks. Is this the type of book that will cause you to just forever hate Star Wars or will it give you an even greater appreciation of it?
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