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therapy posted:I fired a dude just like him from a Software Etc when I worked there in 1998. The guy kept making female customers uncomfortable and asking for their phone numbers. JD's job is probably what is keeping him from actually being a Whack Packer.
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His staff are all misfitis, I mean JD, Ronnie, Richard and Sal but yeah they shouldve gotten a pay raise when they all went to Sirius.
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Mar 22, 2011 23:00
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Guys Howard is suing someone what a hypocrite! Also I am incapable of understanding context! I think Howard should probably spread the wealth a bit more amongst the office staff, but on the other hand I guess their insurance coverage is very good, and they have to spend very little out of pocket for it.
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Mar 22, 2011 23:00
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Ya I wish JD made more money too, but not because he has a hard job. Its because he is used for material for the show and that should be worth something. Dude gets paid 35k a year to watch TV and porn and if he was one bit socially educated he would start marketing himself like the rest of the secondary staff use to do. In regards to Howard. Dont count someone's money. Ya he is loaded, but this is business. How do you think he got so rich? By being a good business man and being ruthless. If Sirius/XM is in violation of their contract and its potentially worth millions of dollars, why wouldnt Howard, or anyone for that matter not try to go get it?
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Mar 22, 2011 23:03
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Medical Doctors are not the group who determines what is healthiest to eat or how to best optimize your body.
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iceaim posted:
I think giving the staff Sirius products for Christmas one year was good enough. Sure, he stopped doing that in favor of Secret Santa so he would only have to buy one person a gift but really who's counting.
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Mar 22, 2011 23:18
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Streebs posted:Really other than John who has left for a better offer? Robin Radzinski. Scott Einziger. Or Isaac Mark who got a job creating original content for the internet and Howard spent a good half hour busting his balls about ever daring to leave.
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Mar 22, 2011 23:23
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Robin Radzinski and Scott Einziger were E! employees so...
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They still left to have a better career elsewhere. Ant any rate they worked exclusively on Howard's television show and they worked in the same building, plus they used the same content they shot on his CBS syndicated show. I wonder if they got a cut of that deal? You can claim that Howard had nothing to do with their pay, but that goes back to his same old excuse that K-Rock/Sirius pays everyone and he doesn't know anything about it. The fact is he could if he wanted to, but he keeps everyone at arm's length while making $80 million a year and people like JD are having panic attacks from their workload.
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I should read this thread more often. I thought Artie died or something.iceaim posted:Not not just a hypocrite. He's a selfish piece of poo poo for wanting more money when his staff is paid dick. I think this is the reason Stern has never made it in Hollywood. You have to be kind to some point, and Stern doesn't have that in him. His whole career is basically belittling people to the amusement of all. You can't do that work for years without an ego that won't work for a number of producers and directors who want their asses kissed. Brocktoon posted:Listening to the show from yesterday and I just got to Howard's cousins. All I needed to hear was "we are being lead by the nose by the Media Scientific Industrial Complex", and I knew it was time to fast forward... Between these losers and Robin, can you imagine the show in five years? It'll just be Wack Packers and poo poo Scientists. It'll be an infomerical that you pay for. Or like basic cable.
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chiz posted:His staff are all misfitis, I mean JD, Ronnie, Richard and Sal but yeah they shouldve gotten a pay raise when they all went to Sirius. They all did. The highest paid of the backroom staff at K-Rock was Dell'AToothy and he was only making 150k a year. I believe Sal and Richard were only making around 60k or something a year also. They have all received a healthy pay bump. A big reason why not much of the staff has left is that while the pay is low, it is not much better anywhere else in the entertainment industry. Even on a highly rated program unless you are talent you aren't making much. The jobs are so hard to get anyway that people stay at them for 20 years or so. There are still guys working at SNL who started when the show did, making at best 80k a year.
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ooh KOAB just retweeted me  also just listened to their show again on Youtube, haha man it was good. The callers werent that great last time, hopefully there will be better ones next time.
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Politicly correct Schmilbert on Jackie's Joke Hunt!
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If JD made more money he would just spend it on private sessions with camwhores.
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Shes Not Impressed posted:JD's job is probably what is keeping him from actually being a Whack Packer. His job is what made him into a Whack Packer. Do you not remember how shy and removed he used to be?
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Crotch Bat posted:His job is what made him into a Whack Packer. Do you not remember how shy and removed he used to be? That didn't change his mom ditching him to Hawaii and the copious amounts of money he spends on porn when it's so widely available for free. But yeah, the on-air bits turned him into a true bumbling whacko.
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I think this is the reason Stern has never made it in Hollywood. You have to be kind to some point, and Stern doesn't have that in him. His whole career is basically belittling people to the amusement of all. You can't do that work for years without an ego that won't work for a number of producers and directors who want their asses kissed. I think it's more that he's a big baby who refuses to compromise on anything. I mean, on the one hand: great, you have integrity and your vision and blah blah blah, but that doesn't work in a system where there are hundreds of people between your idea and what finally makes it on the screen. Sometimes you have to give a little to get a little, and he won't ever do that. It works perfectly in his little bubble of the radio show, where he can sic Don Buchwald on executives when his contract is up and never really have to deal with anyone else except those whose work he more or less dictates or at the very least supervises/has veto power over.
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Mar 23, 2011 02:01
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iceaim posted:Not not just a hypocrite. He's a selfish piece of poo poo for wanting more money when his staff is paid dick. This isn't how capitalism works. Why should he pay his staff? Shouldn't Sirius pay them? Why does he have to pay them more out of his earnings? The manager of a McDonalds doesn't have to pay his employees more, the owner should. Stern isn't the owner, he is the entertainer. His crew is paid, but not out of his pocket. That is silly. It is up for debate if he should give away his money, it is hard to say until it is your money being given away. Never made it in Hollywood because he wasn't nice?!?! Where do you guys live, on earth? Nice people don't stay in any business long, nice people don't get rich and make money in any form of entertainment. Howard shouldn't be on the cross for his co-workers. Most of them are interchangeable anyway, and those that are not, get their pay. I mean, Robin makes way more money for doing nothing, but that is just the way things go. Why doesn't she pay for the staff? Howard has a lot of faults with money (complaining that people shouldn't have side gigs, giving people poo poo for accepting free stuff) and he is completely out of touch with his money and the money of his staff, but he isn't the company, the company should be paying them. If they could be getting more money anywhere else, they should go and do it, but that is the entertainment business, more so on the lower rungs like satellite radio.
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Howard isn't the manager of a McDonalds though. And if he cared to, he could certainly make a call to Sirius and get more money for his staff. Maybe after he gets done suing Sirius for more money for himself he'll get to it. 
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Mar 23, 2011 02:31
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KOAB was great as always, but I also really liked Big Black he asked really good questions and got KOAB to shut up a bit and get serious. This should be on weekly.
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Sirius pays JD and everyone else. Howard can't just give JD 10k more on the backside without having to do something similar for everyone. Think about all the stupid drama that happens over poo poo .0001% as innocent as that. The first time he paid one guy extra everyone else associated with the show in any way would start counting other people's money. There is a Zero Point Zero chance it would turn out in any way but a disaster. For instance, he gives JD 10k more, and Sal and Richard each 5k (since they make more I think). Then maybe Will and Jason and everyone else get a couple grand. It would lead to a drama bomb, but not the type that makes good radio, the type that makes everyone count each other's money, resent each other, and it just would not end well. Does it seem unfair Howard makes 80 million and Artie only made 700k ( according to Rolling Stone). Hell yes! However, that is how radio works.
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AxeManiac posted:Howard has a lot of faults with money (complaining that people shouldn't have side gigs, giving people poo poo for accepting free stuff) and he is completely out of touch with his money and the money of his staff Stern is a total selfish sack of poo poo. Look at people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. They run their own charities and give away huge portions of their wealth to improve the lives of vulnerable people. Both are as capitalist as you can get, especially Bill Gates who was anti competitive as gently caress. Stern on the other hand bitches about his staff doing side gigs when they're earning a pittance. Honestly gently caress that sociopathic scum. iceaim fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Mar 23, 2011 |
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10k is a lot of dildos going into cam girls mouths for JD. Look at people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet! The two richest men in America who by far have double the amount of the 3rd-4th richest! This is a very logical and analogous situation compared to Howard Stern of SIRIUS/XM. Sociopathic scum? That Howard Stern!
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iceaim posted:Stern is a total selfish sack of poo poo. Look at people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. They run their own charities and give away huge portions of their wealth to improve the lives of vulnerable people. Both are as capitalist as you can get, especially Bill Gates who was anti competitive as gently caress. JD Harmeier, downtrodden Darphur orphan, unable to get a SECOND $35k a year job in the middle of Manhattan watching porn and clips of celebrity news gossip shows for a living. Howard Stern: His own personal Mugabe
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Ether Frenzy posted:Howard Stern: His own personal Mugabe More like Gaddafi. 
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Ribsauce posted:Sirius pays JD and everyone else. Howard can't just give JD 10k more on the backside without having to do something similar for everyone. Think about all the stupid drama that happens over poo poo .0001% as innocent as that. The first time he paid one guy extra everyone else associated with the show in any way would start counting other people's money. There is a Zero Point Zero chance it would turn out in any way but a disaster. Didn't they say that Leno every year gives each of his staff members an extra $1,000 per total number of years that they have worked for him?
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iceaim posted:Stern on the other hand bitches about his staff doing side gigs when they're earning a pittance. I think it is fair for him to be concerned that those various staff members aren't capable of handling stuff on the side as well as their day jobs. If we're thinking of the same staff members I'd call them kind of dumb as well as overworked already so more things going on is a legit concern.
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I still find it funny JD's dream job is to be a movie/film director, the one job where being a good communicator is paramount. Also, the other day I was thinking about what person outside of the staff has has benefited the most from the Stern show, and I think it'd be Lonnie from Scores/Ricks. All he has had to do is manage the relationship with the Stern show favorably for advertising, and he's paid for.
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ziglol posted:Also, the other day I was thinking about what person outside of the staff has has benefited the most from the Stern show, and I think it'd be Lonnie from Scores/Ricks. All he has had to do is manage the relationship with the Stern show favorably for advertising, and he's paid for. 
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iceaim posted:Stern is a total selfish sack of poo poo. Look at people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet. They run their own charities and give away huge portions of their wealth to improve the lives of vulnerable people. Both are as capitalist as you can get, especially Bill Gates who was anti competitive as gently caress. Stern is a total selfish sack of poo poo, but charity isn't something that has to be forced and he isn't in charge of making the world even. Like it or not, he has worked for his money, he has done something to earn that money, you can't just waive a magic wand of equal pay all over the place and expect things to work. Howard should be giving money to JD because he loves him, but even still, you can't feed the world. JD is a lost cause, and if he did pad him with money, people would bitch about JD making money like Ralph. Howard helps Ralph in the same way and he is a pretty horrible spoiled child. You can't really rag on somebody for not giving away their money. I'm sure Howard does things for JD, poo poo, his association with the show alone lets him get tail he never would have without it. Also, I know you are trying to make a point with that Beth Picture, but I bet she is pretty hot IRL. When she wakes up in the morning, when she is in the shower, when she gets all dolled up, that is a fine looking woman. Everyone looks awkward in photos and in certain frames. Her body alone is amazing, if she wasn't all kooky about pets and up in their poo poo 24/7 I bet she is a lot of fun. She certainly seems like a caring and understanding person and goes well out of her way to please Howard. I do think she "puts up" with Howard, but most women do this anyway because all men are gross.
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I think he was just answering the "what person outside of the staff has has benefited the most from the Stern show" question, not necessarily commenting on Beth's appearance.
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Smeep posted:I think he was just answering the "what person outside of the staff has has benefited the most from the Stern show" question, not necessarily commenting on Beth's appearance. Well yeah, but a lot of people are mean to her. She seems like a nice person.
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You bring up Ralph and I can't understand how some of you think Stern is that bad. Look at Ralph. He's literally the tapeworm in Howard's intestine of a career. Howard has supported him for 20+ years and likely will continue supporting him until one of them dies. Yes, some of the guys are underpaid but really, Howard has done his share of charity.
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FogHelmut posted:Howard should pay JD more than he pays Ralph. This makes me want to call up and ask "Who do you think works harder, Ralph or JD?" And then when Howard says "JD, of course, that kid works harder than almost anyone I know." I can ask "Now how much more do you think Ralph gets paid than JD?" just to hear him bullshit his way through a "Well JD doesn't actually work for me"
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Opie and Anthony touched on the lawsuit a bit this morning (I tuned in knowing they would be a bit more candid about it) and apparently, Howard feels the XM subscribers that came over after the merger should be applied toward his bonus. So, the extra 12 million or so that where at XM at what is in question.
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DangerDummy! posted:Guys Howard is suing someone what a hypocrite! Also I am incapable of understanding context! Clearly, howard knew about the potential of this suit when re-signing with Sirius. Since he takes lawsuits personally, it's clear he has something personal against serious when he resigned. That animosity toward sirius has clearly resulted in us getting lovely shows and an even more reduced schedule.
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AxeManiac posted:Well yeah, but a lot of people are mean to her. She seems like a nice person. I try to think that, too, but then I remember that lovely dog book she wrote that just copied a bunch of information from the internet and what a lovely charity North Shore Animal League is.
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First thing I thought of upon hearing about the lawsuit was that it might be the reason he is so obviously phoning it in - tons of breaks, live reads. These appear to help revenue but they make the fans crazy. So who knows if that is deliberate. Here is a question: when Debbie the Pet Lady eventually drowns her kid in the bathtub, how will the show respond?
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I was honestly a bit surprised that he announced he'll be moving to a 3-day week. 1. That he announced it at all. 2. I had started thinking his move to a 4-hour show was because he was angry he didn't get a 3-day week like he wanted. Cutting out 4 hours a week (essentially another show) seemed to me like his "gently caress you" to Sirius for not getting what he wanted.
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So he is cutting out two shows - the extra 4 hours a week and an entire day. I just read on MSNBC that this latest contract was for $400 million. Could that be true?
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