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The only figure I could find for EE's budget was £300mil from '09, which puts it at 20-25% of BBC1's budget for the same period. We really should consider taking it behind the barn and putting it out of it's misery, before it gets any older, madder and even more capable of convincing typecast panto-grade hams that they're never going to have to update their CV until they die. Nothing says we can't commission a couple of replcements, though. On an unrelated note, I'm mildly annoyed about iplayer. All the one-off documentaries and stuff from the beeb's radio sites disappeared when it was all folded into it. Tried to look up something from '02 Surprising what you don't notice is missing, till you look for it.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/review_report_research/vfm/continuing_drama.pdf Eastenders 2010-11 budget is £29.8m, about 30% of their "continuing drama" budget.
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So thats why they never finished Hornblower.
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SeanBeansShako posted:So thats why they never finished Hornblower. Hornblower was ITV.
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Flatscan posted:Hornblower was ITV. Knowing this makes me even deader inside.
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goatface posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/review_report_research/vfm/continuing_drama.pdf That's three times as much as Doctor Who gets a year. I guess it makes sense given the sheer loving quantity of Eastenders, but £143,000 an episode still seems a bit steep.
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Nah, not really. I think Charlie Brooker did a thing on Screenwipe about how a single episode of that, which is mostly a guy sitting on a sofa, cost about £50k.
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goatface posted:Nah, not really. I think Charlie Brooker did a thing on Screenwipe about how a single episode of that, which is mostly a guy sitting on a sofa, cost about £50k. Did a lot of that not come down to paying royalties for showing certain clips though?
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Daedo posted:Did a lot of that not come down to paying royalties for showing certain clips though? Nope, he actually adressed that in the episode- It was on the BBC, so they could use everything for free Edit: vvv Fair enough, I didn't know the deal the BBC had didn't extend to TV clips, too. meme fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Mar 24, 2011 |
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meme posted:Nope, he actually adressed that in the episode- It was on the BBC, so they could use everything for free
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Metrication posted:Has anybody watched White Van Man?
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goatface posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctrust/assets/files/pdf/review_report_research/vfm/continuing_drama.pdf Just imagine if they axed eastenders and with that budget made some weekly HBO style quality dramas. One can dream.
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Imagine if they'd scrapped Eastenders and used the money to continue Rome for its full intended span of four seasons or however many it was. That would have been ace.
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NaDy posted:Just imagine if they axed eastenders and with that budget made some weekly HBO style quality dramas. One can dream. For 30 million quid you'd get maybe ten episodes at HBO budgeting. Six episodes if you go nuts Rome style. And you run the risk of people not liking it (or making another Outcasts). For the same amount of cash they can crank out 200 episodes of Eastenders, throw in some social issues to cover the requirement to educate and enjoy the BARB numbers every week.
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J33uk posted:For 30 million quid you'd get maybe ten episodes at HBO budgeting. Six episodes if you go nuts Rome style. And you run the risk of people not liking it (or making another Outcasts). For the same amount of cash they can crank out 200 episodes of Eastenders, throw in some social issues to cover the requirement to educate and enjoy the BARB numbers every week. I totally agree, and I know that the 'majority' of people would rather watch Eastenders because it's familiar and comfortable and incredibly shallow. There's hardly any underlying subtext or message or reflection and thats what people like. I just wish more people would realise what other amazing shows have been made, mainly in the US.
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Daedo posted:Did a lot of that not come down to paying royalties for showing certain clips though? In that episode he shows a clip of an old cartoon from the 60's which he informs us he could have gotten for free if he reviewed it, but he wasn't going to so they'd just wasted X amount of money on it & he showed a copyrighted photograph of Michael Fish (I think) which they had to pay £500 for. ...but I don't think he included those prices on what it costs to make an average TV show, he was walking down a hallway & began telling us all the prices of the cameramen, soundmen, background crew, producers, researchers, runners, etc & was near £20,000 just for that episode if I remember correctly.
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I really just want some company to bring back "Bullseye" in all its rubbish glory, i want to see more darts on tv, more people from Walsall winning speedboats, more Tony green. I got reminded about this glorious show whilst listening to my favourite hip-hop track  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjxP4XYEiFc Ponce de Le0n fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Mar 24, 2011 |
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NaDy posted:I totally agree, and I know that the 'majority' of people would rather watch Eastenders because it's familiar and comfortable and incredibly shallow. There's hardly any underlying subtext or message or reflection and thats what people like. I just wish more people would realise what other amazing shows have been made, mainly in the US. It doesn't reflect the high populations of ethnic minorities in the east end, seem to remember someone calling it a 'white enclave'.
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Metrication posted:It doesn't reflect the high populations of ethnic minorities in the east end, seem to remember someone calling it a 'white enclave'. It is. When I lived in Bethnal Green the only other white people we saw on a regular basis were the junkies going to get their methadone fix at the rehab-centre across the road.
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BisonDollah posted:In that episode he shows a clip of an old cartoon from the 60's which he informs us he could have gotten for free if he reviewed it, but he wasn't going to so they'd just wasted X amount of money on it & he showed a copyrighted photograph of Michael Fish (I think) which they had to pay £500 for. ...but I don't think he included those prices on what it costs to make an average TV show, he was walking down a hallway & began telling us all the prices of the cameramen, soundmen, background crew, producers, researchers, runners, etc & was near £20,000 just for that episode if I remember correctly. Ah right, cool. It's been so long since I've seen it, thats probably what I was getting mixed up with.
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LE0N posted:I really just want some company to bring back "Bullseye" in all its rubbish glory, i want to see more darts on tv, more people from Walsall winning speedboats, more Tony green. I got reminded about this glorious show whilst listening to my favourite hip-hop track Challenge made new episodes a few years ago. Hosted by Dave Spikey, but Tony Green was still there.
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I've been meaning to post this for a while, but it's relevant to the early Screenwipe talk. http://www.youtube.com/user/zthemusic It has all the 'wipes,
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Muppetjedi posted:I've been meaning to post this for a while, but it's relevant to the early Screenwipe talk. That is awesometastic!
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I think it's kinda funny that all these big world events have all been happening the day after 10 O'Clock live airs. The Egyptian president standing down, the Japanese earthquake and Obama getting all riled up at Gaddafi have all happened on fridays. I wonder if they've noticed.
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Muppetjedi posted:I've been meaning to post this for a while, but it's relevant to the early Screenwipe talk. That YouTube channel is actually IN an episode of screenwipe too, in perhaps the most meta thing ever.
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Is everyone listening to So Wrong It's Right? I know there's a lot of Brooker love here but maybe you aren't looking for it since it's radio. Not done with the episode yet but it's worth it for David Schneider's rant about the Orange ads in cinemas.
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Haha, once again the anti-interversion spokesperson is a loving idiot.
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Kin posted:Haha, once again the anti-interversion spokesperson is a loving idiot. I agree. What was her name? For posterity.
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is everyone listening to So Wrong It's Right? I know there's a lot of Brooker love here but maybe you aren't looking for it since it's radio. Not done with the episode yet but it's worth it for David Schneider's rant about the Orange ads in cinemas. Glad you pointed that out, the last series was good, so it'll be worth a listen.
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Not quite sure what satirical purpose showing a Youtube fight clip serves. In fact, it's the sort of thing I'd expect Brooker to rant against...
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goatface posted:Nah, not really. I think Charlie Brooker did a thing on Screenwipe about how a single episode of that, which is mostly a guy sitting on a sofa, cost about £50k. Wouldn't you get good economies of scale making a soap though? It's not like the production values are very high, and scenes don't seem to last longer than two seconds. Once they'd got the couple of camcorders into the cardboard set and the tenth-rate actors made-up and in place, they could probably film a year's worth of material in an afternoon.
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pisshead posted:Wouldn't you get good economies of scale making a soap though? It's not like the production values are very high, and scenes don't seem to last longer than two seconds. Once they'd got the couple of camcorders into the cardboard set and the tenth-rate actors made-up and in place, they could probably film a year's worth of material in an afternoon. Less profit overall though as they can't flog them on DVD afterwards.
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God drat am I disappointed in 10 O'Clock Live right now. It's basically a fact by now that Jimmy Carr is the weak link in the equation but I really thought that either Mitchell, Brooker or Laverne would handle the segment on the budget and maybe focus on the fact that Osborne is trying to sneak by a cut on the pensioner's fuel allowance that David Cameron previously pledged to keep intact. Instead, we get a predictably dreary, hopelessly pun-filled groan-fest from a reliably unfunny man. Deeply, deeply disappointed. Also, to echo someone earlier: A youtube video is not news!!
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MY FAMILY HAS BEEN CANCELLED You can all leave your bunkers now. A new world awaits us. Also, very early on Sunday morning there's a show on C4 called Crunchtime about a competition held in Dundee between groups of students to design a computer game in 10 weeks. I know there are a lot of Dundee goons around so you'll probbaly recognise a lot of faces and places. reality_groove fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Mar 25, 2011 |
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reality_groove posted:[siren] MY FAMILY HAS BEEN CANCELLED [siren]
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reality_groove posted:MY FAMILY HAS BEEN CANCELLED My Family was still going? 
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LE0N posted:I really just want some company to bring back "Bullseye" in all its rubbish glory, i want to see more darts on tv, more people from Walsall winning speedboats, more Tony green. I got reminded about this glorious show whilst listening to my favourite hip-hop track No. My neighbours already hate me, having me scream "AIM FOR 19 YOU THICK oval office" at the non dart player every Sunday night may result in my eviction. Although, with the economy being in the shitter, there's enough desperately poor people to accurately recreate that feeling of hopeless desperation...
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I just watched the GovSquad sketch on 10 O'Clock Live. loving hell that was bad. Then it' followed up by a piece whose entire point is "LOL AMERICAN NEWS IS BAD" and then "Look at this footage that we found on the internet and youtube that anyone with a computer connection in an office will have already seen." Then it's followed up by a Jimmy Carr bit where it's news from the future. "The Emperor of Japan who was awoken in 2011, Godzilla, will be visiting the UK..." Not only is it achingly unfunny it's also in achingly poor taste. This is exactly the sort of poo poo Brooker would have annihilated as crass, ill-conceived, piss-poor and needing to be closed down as soon as is humanly possible. Sion fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Mar 25, 2011 |
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Kin posted:Haha, once again the anti-interversion spokesperson is a loving idiot. ah, another week, another anti-war campaigner kin calls an idiot. Did you cheer as they announced we were going to Libya during last weeks show, like the audience? It just seems the idea that people don't like war offends you
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le chat posted:ah, another week, another anti-war campaigner kin calls an idiot. Did you cheer as they announced we were going to Libya during last weeks show, like the audience? It just seems the idea that people don't like war offends you Congratulations on spectacularly missing the point.
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