Hippokleides posted:

Looks like our state beat your state:




http://wjbc.com/state-jobs-cut-due-to-end-of-death-penalty/
http://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/illinois/article_0fcdfb2e-51ca-11e0-980a-001cc4c03286.html


37 appellate defenders went down with the death penalty. For the prosecution side of things, we did not have a dedicated death department, and I'm not aware of any losses.

nm posted:

So the PD's Office i was volunteering for is expecting to lay off 30 attorneys. Many of whom are quite a few years out of law school and have kids.

Don't go to law school.

Defleshed posted:

Oh man that's gonna cause some head explosions among the reactionary idiots in Illinois.

RAR NO MORE DEATH PENALTY IMPEACH QUINN FRY THE MEXICANS!! b...bu... but STATE JOBS CUT?! MY TAX DOLLARS! HOORAY! WE LOVE YOU QUINN!

Hippokleides posted:

37 appellate defenders went down with the death penalty.

Hippokleides posted:

For the prosecution side of things, we did not have a dedicated death department, and I'm not aware of any losses.

Hippokleides posted:

Looks like our state beat your state:




http://wjbc.com/state-jobs-cut-due-to-end-of-death-penalty/
http://qctimes.com/news/state-and-regional/illinois/article_0fcdfb2e-51ca-11e0-980a-001cc4c03286.html


37 appellate defenders went down with the death penalty. For the prosecution side of things, we did not have a dedicated death department, and I'm not aware of any losses.

quote:

JUSTICE SCALIA: We don't want Miranda warnings to be given where they are unnecessary because they are only necessary to prevent coercion, and where there's no coercion, we want confessions, don't we? And warnings deter confessions.
MR. FEIGIN: That's right, Your Honor.
JUSTICE SCALIA: Isn't that the basic reason?
MR. FEIGIN: That's right, Your Honor,
JUSTICE SCALIA: So it's not cost-free to require Miranda warnings.
MR. FEIGIN: That's right
JUSTICE SCALIA: It's a good thing to have the bad guys confess that they're bad guys, right?
MR. FEIGIN: That's right, Your Honor, I was trying to say earlier.

Ainsley McTree posted:

That's gotta be a real bittersweet moment for the people who got laid off though. It's like, you're super opposed to the death penalty and you spend your entire career defending people from it, and you finally get your ultimate victory and get rid of the death penalty completely and OOPS we don't need you anymore you're fired

Chewbacca Defense posted:

Wake Forest got their annual angry anonymous email to the entire campus today. Does this happen anywhere else?

quote:

"Wes Law"

Is there someone who can please explain why do we even have librarians
at this law school anymore, and to what purpose they serve?



I hear they are suppose to teach the legal research component of legal
research and writing, but my legal writing instructor has repeatedly
corrected these teaching with reactions along the lines of; “not
exactly”, “well, let me offer you another view”, or “she sad what?”.
My experience has taught me they are responsible for generating 80% of
the work in legal research and writing class, but something along he
line of 2% of the content. Not even close to the 80 – 20 rule of
inverse proportion. I believe this school would be much better served
by eliminating the librarians from the process altogether. I hear
that is the way is use to be taught and that to give the librarians a
greater purpose they we brought into the program. Can we pause and
rethink this plan?



I have learned far more from the legal writing TAs than my part time
and just about always missing in action librarian. That’s right
PART-TIME. Has anyone else noticed the childish little clocks on the
librarian’s doors? Ms. 1 advertises she will be here at 10:00,
well its 10:35 and she still isn’t here yet. Mr. 2 is no longer
here. Dean, if you are listening, there is no need to replace
him. Mrs. 3 advertises she will be in and hour or so
earlier than Ms. 1, but you will not find her here until she is
20 to 30 minutes late as well. I checked the university’s human
resources web site and the published working hours are from 8:30 until
5:00. The two remaining librarians are cheating the system, the law
school, and your tuition dollars by and hour and half to two hour each
and every day. That’s like working four days and getting paid for
five. Do you think we will be to find a job where we can draw a full
time salary while working on a part time schedule?



Try and find them in the morning. I have often asked Mrs. 4 when
she expects Ms. 1 in and the best she can do is to raise her
hands and shrug her shoulders, indicating she has no idea. The sign
says 10:00, its 10:15, and do we know where are librarians are? NO WE
DON’T.



Mrs. 3 must have a sweet heart deal as she closes here door
several times each day, I guess to take a nap and then leaves well
before 5:00. Ms. 1 doesn’t shut herself in, but leaves for
extended periods of the day, often two to three hours. She often
stays later, but what does she do? Looking at her computer screen
though the window, you can see she shops on eBay, she shops elsewhere,
but try and get her to help you, forget it. Dealing with students
must be beneath her. Well, that is try and get her to help you if you
are a girl. If you a member of the male species she will gladly
swivel her hips and sachet her way to the desk, then flit and flirt
while trying to listen to what you are asking. Just watch her, it is
hysterical. Does she honestly think she can find someone to date
among the students at the law school?



We have one librarian that has left, and two librarians, that at best
work on a part time basis. The best use of the law school’s salary
dollars would be to fire the two unwilling to work librarians, and
hire one full time librarian that is willing to work on a full time
basis. Remove them from the LRW classroom, and engrain some customer
service attitudes in to the one we hire. Seriously, I wish the dean’s
office would survey the students about the effectiveness of the
librarians in the classroom.



While we leave for spring break, I strongly suggest Ms. 1 and
Mrs. 3 do some soul searching and ask themselves if are
ready, willing and able to work a full day as defined by the
university’s policies? Realizing of course, as high paid
professionals you may have to work some over time. Of course given
you poor work habits you have already stolen thousands of dollars from
the law school. Perhaps a generous donation to the scholarship fund
would be in order to pay us back. Are you ready, willing and able to
exhibit a customer friendly behavior towards the library’s patrons?
If Ms. 1 and Mrs. 3 are willing to change their
deviant behavior, then we should she them here with smiling faces at
8:30 a.m. on Monday when we return, otherwise we should see a help
wanted sign on the front door and their offices empty. I hope for
the later. If these two are still around, they need to be on a time
card. Clock in when you work, clock out when you take a nap, or
stroll around campus or shop on eBay. These two have proven they can
not be trusted.



I wonder if the two remaining librarians treat the faculty with the
same level of disrespect as they treat the students. Maybe that is
why we never see a faculty member in the library. They know they
can’t get any help there either.



Then again, that begs the question, why do we have such a big library
anyway, when half of the shelves are empty, most of what we access in
online and available through the web. If it wasn’t for my carrel I
would never half to set foot in it. Move the entire contents of the
library, the one remaining librarian and the few books that must
remain to basement and address all of the outstanding needs for study
space, an eating establishment, a computer lab with computers, and a
student center. How long before librarians become obsolete? Maybe
they already have.

MoFauxHawk posted:

And think about all the jobs lost at the Innocence Project if the death penalty is repealed too! This is why we need to keep the death penalty around. The people at the Innocence Project are saving lives!

Chewbacca Defense posted:

"I wonder if the two remaining librarians treat the faculty with the
same level of disrespect as they treat the students. Maybe that is
why we never see a faculty member in the library. They know they
can’t get any help there either."

Chewbacca Defense posted:

Chewbacca Defense posted:

While we leave for spring break, I strongly suggest Ms. 1 and
Mrs. 3 do some soul searching and ask themselves if are
ready, willing and able to work a full day as defined by the
university’s policies? Realizing of course, as high paid
professionals you may have to work some over time.

Defleshed posted:

Man that guy could have at least run that angry rear end in a top hat email through the angry rear end in a top hat spellchecker.

Who complains to the entire faculty and student body about such a thing? Man I loving hate law students.

Chewbacca Defense posted:

Someone does it every year. It makes us look pretty lame.

Konstantin posted:

From the Supreme Court argument for J.D.B. v. North Carolina, which is about if you have to give the Miranda warning to a juvenile questioned by police at school. Mr. Feigin is arguing on behalf of the United States.


Got to love Scalia just openly saying that he wants confessions from 'the bad guys'. I wondering who he is referring to when he says 'we'?

Phil Moscowitz posted:

For some reason I feel like Scalia is being sarcastic

Chewbacca Defense posted:

Wake Forest got their annual angry anonymous email to the entire campus today. Does this happen anywhere else?

The New York Times" posted:

Black’s Law Dictionary? Check.

An Introduction to Legal Reasoning? Check.

Small, cute dog? Check.

Yale Law School, renowned for competitiveness and its Supreme Court justices, is embarking on a pilot program next week in which students can check out a “therapy dog” named Monty along with the library’s collection of more than one million books.

While the law school is saying little so far about its dog-lending program, it has distributed a memo to students with the basics: that Monty will be available at the circulation desk to stressed-out students for 30 minutes at a time beginning Monday, for a three-day trial run.

“It is well documented that visits from therapy dogs have resulted in increased happiness, calmness and overall emotional well-being,” Blair Kauffman, the law librarian, wrote in an e-mail to students.

Draile posted:

Has anyone posted the New York Times article on how the Yale law library is loaning a therapy dog.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/education/22dog.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage

MoFauxHawk posted:

Ugh stop using "begs the question" wrong everybody.

Edit: Also yeah I thought about using that ACLU group, but the Innocence Project has better name recognition. But you're right. Man that movie Conviction that had Barry Scheck portrayed in it was such a turd.

Draile posted:

Has anyone posted the New York Times article on how the Yale law library is loaning a therapy dog.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/22/education/22dog.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage

scribe jones posted:

meeting the red guy for drinks on saturday, think I'm gonna print out some poo poo from this thread to show him. help me law school thread you're my only hope

scribe jones posted:

meeting the red guy for drinks on saturday, think I'm gonna print out some poo poo from this thread to show him. help me law school thread you're my only hope

SWATJester posted:

I want to know more. Why won't they tell me how this ends?

Some intrepid goon -- find a copy of this depo?

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2011/03/18/what-is-a-copy-machine-presenting-a-deposition-for-the-ages/

quote:

D: I’m sorry. I didn’t know what that meant. I understand that there are photocopying machines, and there are different types of them just like –

PL: Are there any in the Recorder’s office?

D: — there are different cars. Some of them run under gas power, some of them under electric power, and I’m asking if you could help me out by explaining what you mean by “photocopying machines” –-

PL: That’s a great point.

D: -- instead of trying to make me feel stupid.

PL: If you feel stupid, it’s not because I’m making you feel that way.

DL: Objection.

Save me jeebus posted:

Another reason not to go to law school: clients.

hypocrite lecteur posted:

No way sitting in a tight little room alone with a criminal is half the fun

especially if they're the kind of hardcase who skips out on dog related charges

hypocrite lecteur posted:

No way sitting in a tight little room alone with a criminal is half the fun