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elitebuster posted:Aren't the 10th Lyran Guard this continuity's 10th Lyran Guard? Only literally speaking. The 10th in this continuity is much, much different from the one we know, since there was no 4th Succession War for them to be destroyed in. I presume they're still the Heir-presumptive's unit... So is Ivan Steiner in charge of them now?
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Yeah, I'm going to get a forums upgrade  but we aren't even getting a minor victory here  Unless we can somehow take on two clan heavies with a rommel, a beat up cyclops and a zeus.
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The one thing we have going for us is the Also I'm banking on a  rage from Colonel Rossi upon confirming Kempfer died for what amounts to a game to the Clanners.I'm still wondering if the survivors are going to have to re-enact the Clan prison break path from Mechwarrior 2 Mercenaries at the end of all this or if they'll be taken bondsmen or maybe (slim chance) they're granted Hegira. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Apr 5, 2011 |
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Apr 5, 2011 22:08
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I think the minor victory was surviving as long as we have. Not enough loving with the clanners' egos, though, and that's really the key to victory in this one.
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Affi posted:Unless we can somehow take on two clan heavies with a rommel, a beat up cyclops and a zeus. There's still two AC20s on the field. It's possible. Just very unlikely.
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Tempest_56 posted:There's still two AC20s on the field. It's possible. Just very unlikely. Yeah, I'd say the current situation can be summed up with FUBAR, CF and other acronyms, but a lucky shot could still at least allow a partial victory. Still, that's some rotten luck with the Wolfhound. One thing I've just noticed  : Star Commander Winter Breen? 
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Angry_Ed posted:The one thing we have going for us is the Based on the update, we know the Hellbringer has 20 armor in its arms and 30 in its legs. It certainly does not appear to be the fragile Hellbringer of canon.
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Apr 5, 2011 22:23
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Spencerb posted:Welp. I guess that cements my status as LVP? I haven't even fired so much as a medium laser! PoptartsNinja posted:You're not out yet! ... Well, you're probably out, but you might pull something off. Actually, if I may: Trast posted:Also the Wolfhound should challenge that Clanner to fight on one leg. Seriously, do this. Challenge the Clanner to fight on one leg, and then to ensure that he doesn't "accidentally" break zell like the Copperhead did, the Clanner should let one of the members of Gamma star blow his leg off. Mechs can crawl, right?
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Mukaikubo posted:Neg. Request you take a potshot at B5. It hasn't moved, so you should have a righteous to hit on it, and we NEED that thing softened up. Badly. Welp. Nice knowing you guys.
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KnoxZone posted:Based on the update, we know the Hellbringer has 20 armor in its arms and 30 in its legs. It certainly does not appear to be the fragile Hellbringer of canon. ...whoops, my bad I blame being vaporized.
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Angry_Ed posted:The one thing we have going for us is the To give you an example of what this Hellbringer might be like, here's (purportedly) the original Hellbringer as published before the official clan tech specs.
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Cool as they are, I've been forced to conclude that the Mk I omnis are bullshit. Why? Because they use machine guns far more intelligently than any other fielded design (other than the Piranha).
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Oh dear, this was quite a lovely turn for the 2nd Donegal. The Banshee gets decapitated due to a random stroke of Clanner luck. The superior Wolfhound pilot loses a leg while backing down a hill... Still, you shoved the Bloodnamed Star Commander off the map and made him forfeit his bid... I guess that counts for something, right? All you guys have left to deal with for a Partial Victory are two Heavy Mechs with two damaged Assaults, a Light missing a leg, and a damaged Tank. You might be able to pull it off... Maybe... Really poor luck for the Master Sergeant, though. Feel bad for the guy.
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GhostStalker posted:Really poor luck for the Master Sergeant, though. Feel bad for the guy. It's going to be happening more frequently whenever the Clans turn up. They're not all as naive as the Steel Vipers.
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Looking like it's time for me to break out  Not my best bet, I'll admit.Unless that Wolfhound manages to find some sort of hilarious delaying action it can take, like, say, laying face down for awhile and then taking one potshot at round 19. Or challenging all the clanners that want to kill it to do so one-legged.
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PoptartsNinja posted:It's going to be happening more frequently whenever the Clans turn up. They're not all as naive as the Steel Vipers. Yeah, makes sense to me. Decap the command elements and a breakdown of the chain of command will follow, resulting in general confusion and easier prey for the Clans. So, what's the current running tally for this one to end? The 2nd Donegal Command Lance all down by turn 8?
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drat. Forget about lasting 20 rounds. We'll be lucky if this fight lasts 10. A through-armor crit from falling that snaps a leg off and a PPC shot to the head in the same round? The clanners already had the advantage of numbers, size and technology. That kind of luck to boot is just crazy.
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GhostStalker posted:Yeah, makes sense to me. Decap the command elements and a breakdown of the chain of command will follow, resulting in general confusion and easier prey for the Clans. Nah, it depends on what the remaining players do, but I don't see the healthy Zeus dying for a few more turns. The rest of the mechs/tanks are completely screwed, however, unless they manage to take out Beta Star, which would force Gamma to plod over. I say turn 14.
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Go for the one legged challenge. Or try to get the other guys to maneuver the battle over to you, and shoot the bad guy in the back at an opportune moment.
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PoptartsNinja posted:... but you might pull something off. Like what? The other leg? 
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“Chapters 31-34” Seagroves (fancy poo poo) starts the chapter by enjoying some fancy poo poo. The first mate shows up and starts bitching at Seagroves for being a self-important anime-flying douchebag of the highest caliber. Seagroves is too self-important to care about her, though. Seems Seagroves has been amassing a horde of gold items, much to his hosts’ puzzlement, since the valuable metal on this planet is iron. And considering that rocky planets are composed almost entirely out of iron, that must be some accomplishment. But then that’s just me being angry at the oak trees when the whole forest is upside down, so let’s move on. The next chapter begins with Pesht (doormat). Pesht is meeting with the town’s mayoral figure. It seems they’re conspiring behind Vost’s back, as well as spending a couple minutes being mutually sexist. Evidently Pesht isn’t quite the doormat he’s presented himself as, and he’s offering the mercs services to do a little oligarchal housecleaning to restore their image in Usugumo (rubbish). Congratulations, Pesht, I hereby raise your status from (doormat) to (schemer). Now I just hope that this is an honest twist and not Peter Rice forgetting whom he gave the (schemer) background to. Pesht says he can bring the others into line behind him, but he wants the mayor position as payment. In chapter 33 we stick with Pesht (schemer), this time dealing with the high priest of Amatukaze (temple). Pesht is demanding a similar position of leadership from the high priest, which is frankly confusing the man, who considers the prophets and philosophers who built their religion to be the highest authority. Pesht, being the man with the ‘mechs, tells him to make it happen anyway. Seagroves (fancy poo poo) was listening on this one, and they discuss the third offer from Osio (castle). Pesht was told by their representative that they could assassinate their king to make room for Pesht, but he decides that would set a bad precedent for him later on. Seagroves still wants to stick with the merchants, and Pesht says he’ll think about it. Now we’re back with Takuda, who is watching the muppets try to brew coffee for him. Ever-righteous Takuda would rather do it himself, of course, but they got started before he woke up. In fact, the muppets are basically doing everything for the Spec Ops team now, which is getting Takuda worried. One of the soldiers in particular was having fun watching the muppets alter the landscape at his whim, but Horg, the original muppet sympathizer, made sure he cut that out. The ‘mech pilots are getting extra attention, and Goodall (chick) finds herself with an adopted charge at one point. Even worse, now other tribes of muppets are showing up to worship the Locust gods. Takuda goes with Dakodo to the tribe council to discuss the situation, but falls asleep after a few hours of interminable yammering, which is muppet tradition. Still, when he wakes up, Dakodo assures him that the “adoption” situation won’t happen again. Bobbin Threadbare fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Apr 5, 2011 |
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Tarquinn posted:Like what? The other leg? That ought to be enough to get me a mention in the Vipers' Remembrance.
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Tarquinn posted:Like what? The other leg?  Seriously though, unless some very lucky AC/20 shots occur in the next couple of rounds, this battle's pretty much lost.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Nope. Most good Inner Sphere 'Mechwarriors are in their 50s. The Clans just Think Differently (tm). They don't field any warrior younger than 20, and 30 is considered old. If a 'Mechwarrior reaches the ripe old age of 35, the Clans assign him to training the newest generation of warriors (read: potentially that warrior's grandchildren) or to a Solomha second-line "defense" (suicide) unit. For the IS, as time goes on they just get better. But for the Clans, essentially, the level of pilot efficiency they have on day one of the invasion would be largely the same as they have years on, with reasonable, flexible pilots being replaced by freshly trained honour-muppets.
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Quick, everyone ask the Clans for a minute of silence to show respect for the fallen! Six free turns on the clock isn't to be sneezed at.
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We've had our own run of luck this game, don't forget the Thunderchild pilot knocking himself silly. Or the 'mech I killed.
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Haha, ERPPC headcap and a 12 on the leg-TAC. Welcome to Battletech motherfuckers, it's awesome for the same reason you sometimes hate it.
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So when does the seize the initiative special kick in, next turn? That might be the end of it right there for 2/3 (3/4 if the Wolfhound is really drat lucky) of the remaining force. Good luck guys, you'll need it.
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Krumbsthumbs posted:So when does the seize the initiative special kick in, next turn? That might be the end of it right there for 2/3 (3/4 if the Wolfhound is really drat lucky) of the remaining force. Good luck guys, you'll need it. Holy poo poo I completely forgot about this. On the plus side the remaining players are in a good spot to not get completely butchered by init this turn... ...Except for the tank.
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Krumbsthumbs posted:So when does the seize the initiative special kick in, next turn? That might be the end of it right there for 2/3 (3/4 if the Wolfhound is really drat lucky) of the remaining force. Good luck guys, you'll need it. It's only once per battle so PTN would have to announce it first.
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PoptartsNinja posted:They're Rocket Launcher 15s, which means it fires one salvo and then stands around doing dick-all.
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Krumbsthumbs posted:So when does the seize the initiative special kick in, next turn? When the Clans call for it, which they haven't because they're feeling like smug assholes and want to drag this out. There's a reason quite a few clans are represented by cats. Arquinsiel posted:To be fair, [...] effective [...] stinger What you just wrote makes absolutely no sense.
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Welp, time to pack it in Steinailures. I was actually really rooting for the goon team this time. It looked for a brief instant like they might pull it off somehow through a combination of luck and clan-trolling, but then this happened. It would be sad if it wasn't so goddamn funny.
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Well of course it makes no sense if you remove the comparatives. Silly cardassian.
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SynthOrange posted:Hope you guys enjoy your new lives as bondsmen. If PTN allowed the Stackpole effect, I would disengage the safeties on my fusion engine and go out with a bang. Better dead than a Clanner slave. Since that isn't an option, try to impress the Clanners as much as you can before you are beaten. V V V If you're lucky enough for the Rommel to just be disabled and not outright destroyed, I would have your crew try to radio one of the dropships, abandon the tank, and run like hell towards the one that could take you (if it could). Note that it is academic since the lance won't last till turn 20. No one is leaving when that happens... landcollector fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Apr 6, 2011 |
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SynthOrange posted:Hope you guys enjoy your new lives as bondsmen. I don't qualify.
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raverrn posted:I don't qualify. Everyone qualifies. You did help eliminate two 'Mechs with your vastly inferior hardware.
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“Chapters 35-38” Takuda wakes up to find a visitor from Amatukaze (temple) waiting for him. The visitor goes into a long, winding exposition that doesn’t cover any new ground. His point is that, since the Spec Ops team won their battles against the mercs, they’re obviously better armed than the mercs, so Amatukaze wants to recruit them. Ever-righteous Takuda presents his counterargument of bushido, also pointing out that there is still far too much land to settle to bother squabbling over the tiny bit that’s already developed. The temple rep laughs at Takuda’s “foolishness” and leaves. An Osio (castle) rep shows up next to give the same pitch. Takuda gives the same counterargument, and the meeting ends the same way. Woo. Some time later, five men from all three cities, including the two reps from above, meet behind closed doors and explicitly recap their earlier talks. quote:“We are of one mind,” […] “And since we are of the same mind, and since we have discussed this before, we need only review what we have planned and what we have discovered within the past five days.” It’s just too bad they forgot about all the muppet servants listening in. Back with the mercenaries, Seagroves (fancy poo poo) continues to have absolutely no clue about market values, instead piling worthless gold on worthless gold. Vost and Pesht (schemer) show up and start comparing notes about all the offers the five reps are making them to turn against each other. They eventually decide to “advertise” some more to see if there are any better offers out there. They do this by walking all three ‘mechs to Osio (castle), the hardest target, and proceeding to decimate the unmanned rear defenses. Takuda hears the report of the attack and wonders about the odd choice in targets. He goes to check the camp’s I/R scanner, and realizes that the mercs are probably just demonstrating again. Since his troops have been approached individually by the Gang of Five, he figures that’s got something to do with it, too. Since he also figures the mercs’ plan might work, he sends the two Locusts (and the tank) to deflate them, somehow. In the meantime, the mercs have finished “demonstrating” on Osio (castle), and moved on to Amatukaze (temple). They spot the Locusts at long range and the encounter turns into a turkey shoot as the light ‘mechs (and the tank) retreat. Well, that was utterly predictable. Just one more day of this crap to go!
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SynthOrange posted:Hope you guys enjoy your new lives as bondsmen. There's always Bondsref, or even better, the MW2:Mercs response
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