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karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker

Saga posted:

What's a Dutch motorcycle?

I can only think of the Troll/Hyperpro TRX. That was pretty cool.

Yeah, things seem way more hilarious when you're down on sleep and up on alcohol. :( Im sorry about that. I think I meant to make a joke about tsaven? Ugh, I'm dissapointed by yesterday's me.

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Saga
Aug 17, 2009

KARMA! posted:

Yeah, things seem way more hilarious when you're down on sleep and up on alcohol. :( Im sorry about that. I think I meant to make a joke about tsaven? Ugh, I'm dissapointed by yesterday's me.

Oh, did he abuse Dutch women as well? So many pants, so little time. Sorry, I probably should have picked that up.

Anyway, it provides an opportunity for posting Dutch bike porn AND a TRX!

sirbeefalot
Aug 24, 2004
Fast Learner.
Fun Shoe

Saga posted:

Oh, did he abuse Dutch women as well? So many pants, so little time. Sorry, I probably should have picked that up.

Anyway, it provides an opportunity for posting Dutch bike porn AND a TRX!



This is some kind of Escher poo poo. I cannot make heads nor tails of this strange contraption.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Does the front wheel slide up and down the rectangular bit? This that stupid Bakker suspension thing isn't it?

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

sirbeefalot posted:

This is some kind of Escher poo poo. I cannot make heads nor tails of this strange contraption.

Oosterhoff´s Troll front suspension set-up has little in common with the RADD system that Yamaha used for the GTS1000, although both are hub-centre designs. On the GTS system, the large chassis strut running from the engine area to the hub-centre pivots. But the yellow tube leading to the Troll bike´s front wheel is a rigid part of the frame.

Instead, the Dymag wheel is bolted to four grooved castors, and slides up and down a parallelogram-shaped metal block on the left side. (It´s this movement that gives the Troll Linear Guiding System its full name.) Wheel travel is controlled by a single vertical shock on the right side.

The shock unit is one of the twin uprights (the other consists of a narrower yellow tube and the parallelogram) that provide steering, by coming together to pivot at the steering head, then splitting again to hold the clip-on handlebars. (Imagine it as a person with arms raised: the arms are the handlebars, the waist is the steering head, and the legs are the lower struts, with the shock unit being the right leg.)

The steering head is formed by another section of the large-diameter yellow frame tube, which curves upwards to grip the handlebar/shock assembly at its waist. This tube also supports components such as the headlight assembly, fuel tank, radiator and coils.

There´s no denying that the asymmetrical Troll system looks ungainly compared to the neat simplicity of telescopic forks, but it certainly has plenty of theoretical advantages. Most important is the lack of a telescopic system´s friction, notably under heavy braking.

´When a bike is really braking, even good forks like WP or Ohlins bend by 20mm,´ says Rinner. ‘The force needed to overcome that friction is 80kg, which has to be put into the tyre first, so the tyre gets a really hard time. With our system the forces are fed straight into the frame, and you control everything with the spring and the damping - that´s a big advantage.´

Because the Troll system´s braking forces are fed into the frame near the engine, instead of into the steering head area as with telescopics, the frame itself can be considerably lighter. The lack of a bulky steering head also frees up room for the airbox and other parts.

The complete Troll system is much more rigid than a pair of forks, giving a more precise steering action. This TRX prototype´s front end also has 0.5kg less unsprung weight, while its reduced moment of inertia (partly due to the absence of triple clamps and upper fork legs) allows easier direction changes. Finally it is possible to have a very steep steering angle, which improves low-speed handling, yet a conventional amount of trail, to aid high-speed stability.

All of which sounds fantastic - so long as those theoretical advantages are borne out by performance on the road. And the Hyperpro TRX850, which at 176kg is 14kg lighter than a standard TRX, certainly works well enough to suggest that Rinner and Oosterhoff are onto something.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer

Saga posted:

Oosterhoff´s Troll front suspension

You could have fooled me if you hadn't gone overboard by naming it the Troll suspension. :v:

Ninja: Jesus christ, the first hits when you GIS "Troll suspension"! :gonk:

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

Nidhg00670000 posted:

You could have fooled me if you hadn't gone overboard by naming it the Troll suspension. :v:

Ninja: Jesus christ, the first hits when you GIS "Troll suspension"! :gonk:

The company doesn't exist any more - I imagine oosterthingy may work for Hyperpro or have been bought out by them, as the TRX also features on Hyperpro's site as the "Hyper 1".

FuzzyWuzzyBear
Sep 8, 2003

Nidhg00670000 posted:

You could have fooled me if you hadn't gone overboard by naming it the Troll suspension. :v:

There is a motorcycle company named Troll, hard as it is to believe.

http://churchofmoto.com/troll-motorcycles/

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

FuzzyWuzzyBear posted:

There is a motorcycle company named Troll, hard as it is to believe.

http://churchofmoto.com/troll-motorcycles/

Yes, same people. That's a 900ss kit bike.

bsamu
Mar 11, 2006



Picked it up last night, now I have to sell my poor neglected ex250 :( It's great to not have to downshift all the time, and hooooooo boy does it feel fast compared to the ninja. It's supposed to rain today but I rode to work anyway. Bring on summer!

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
For a second there I thought I was looking at my own bike, which was declared totaled this morning. :(

The SV650 in Grand Candy blue is gorg. Very nice buy.

BradleyJamers
Jun 5, 2005
Ask me about my fitness log: PYF Not Workouts
Finally had time and nice enough weather to take out my GZ250.



Been wanting to switch up bikes all winter long, but after riding it, I'm not in such a huge hurry. I'll wait until I can get a good deal on something I want.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:
Bought my first bike yesterday.



Just a little 04 Honda Shadow 600 to learn on. All my friends recommended this model as a great year 1-2 bike. Then trade up to a 900 or more.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


Why trade up for the same kind of bike when there are so many other options? Adventure/sumo/nakeds etc (Not cruiser bashing or anything just curious)

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Russian Bear posted:

Why trade up for the same kind of bike when there are so many other options? Adventure/sumo/nakeds etc (Not cruiser bashing or anything just curious)

Don't want to ride sport bikes. Rode one once, crashed the poo poo out of it into some trees and bushes. So I am timid around those bikes.

I also really like cruisers in general, just the look and the way they feel and sound.

When I get more experienced I might branch out into something else, but for now and the foreseeable future I am going to stick with cruisers. Although I do like my friends BMW. He has an '05 R1200RT. Thats a nice looking bike.

Ribsauce
Jul 29, 2006

Blacks in the back.
First real ride on my new (to me) DR350.

I rode it without a plate since it is legal for me to do it today (in NC you have 10 days to get it plated after purchase...I have non-DOT tires on it now so I am waiting for my new ones from Cycle Gear so I can pass inspection). I passed 5 police officers without getting pulled over. One even pulled out behind me so I pulled over waiting for him and he just waved and drove by. Finally my luck ran out and I got pulled and had to explain to the officer it was legal for me and even had to show him where the motorcycle endorsement was on an NC license. He lit me up before I even passed him but there was a pack of 8 ATVs and clearly non legal dirt bikes at the gas station so he probably thought I was with him.

I rode on a few dirt trails and it was fun. There is this trail about .25 miles from my house next to a railroad track. I saw a Jeep coming out was like "screw it" and rode on it. Dropped it once going slow around am uphill turn. When I get my tires from Cycle Gear I will be buying some dirt specific gear for sure. It was so much fun though. Can't wait to get better.

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def snow leppard
Sep 12, 2010

KenMornignstar posted:

Don't want to ride sport bikes.

None of the bike types he listed there are sport bikes. Theres more than just sport bikes and cruisers.
To each his own I guess.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


KenMornignstar posted:

Don't want to ride sport bikes. Rode one once, crashed the poo poo out of it into some trees and bushes. So I am timid around those bikes.

What bike did you eat it on? Was it a case of too much power or just a really bad crash? I'm just trying to say don't turn down trying out a bike just because you don't like it initially, you never know what might tickle your fancy. When you decide it's time for a change, check out some sport tourers, or the big bikes BMW makes(k series and the r you mentioned), or st's, or hell go test a diavel-it's a cruiser, ducati is pretty liberal with test rides.

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:

Russian Bear posted:

What bike did you eat it on? Was it a case of too much power or just a really bad crash? I'm just trying to say don't turn down trying out a bike just because you don't like it initially, you never know what might tickle your fancy. When you decide it's time for a change, check out some sport tourers, or the big bikes BMW makes(k series and the r you mentioned), or st's, or hell go test a diavel-it's a cruiser, ducati is pretty liberal with test rides.

I bit it on a Katana 750. It was a case of WAY too much power too early in the game. I do like the naked bikes Ducati makes and I like to looks of the Aprilia Shiver as well.

Like I said I'm not closed off to all bikes but cruisers. Just have no desire yet to ever get on a sport bike again.

Saga
Aug 17, 2009

KenMornignstar posted:

a Katana 750.

It was a case of WAY too much power

I have found your bike. Being ridden by a goon, what's more.

Fantastipotamus
Nov 19, 2002

Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track.

KenMornignstar posted:

I bit it on a Katana 750. It was a case of WAY too much power too early in the game. I do like the naked bikes Ducati makes and I like to looks of the Aprilia Shiver as well.

Like I said I'm not closed off to all bikes but cruisers. Just have no desire yet to ever get on a sport bike again.
Like others have said, as you gain experience (and confidence) on your bike, you may find you end up changing your mind. With a first impression like that though, it's easy to understand why you shy away from them. No one in here would recommend you a 4-cylinder, 100hp bike as your first bike, much less hopping on one with no experience. Unfortunately, I know a lot of people with the 'just hop on and give 'er sum!' attitude, and it rarely works out as intended.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
I bought two cause I'm dumb.



Hopefully get them here within the next 2 weeks or so.

slowspeedracer
Oct 6, 2007

What the hell did I buy? OK, roommate bought the red suzuki in the background and this little fella was included in the purchase. Couple hundred bucks later, now its my little fella. According to the seller, its a mid 60's Suzuki 80cc scooter that has not run in at least 10 years.
Best I have found online is one picture matching the scooter ID'ing it as a 1967 Suzuki Corsair. I have not been able to locate a single restoration blog and all of the parts I have tried to source are discontinued 25 years ago. I will take lots of pics and if I end up restoring it and will make a thread. Otherwise its going back to craigslist.
Checked for spark.. its good. Little starting fluid... fired up second kick.

If anyone has any info, please PM me.

n8r
Jul 3, 2003

I helped Lowtax become a cyborg and all I got was this lousy avatar
You paid a couple hundred for that? Ouch.

slowspeedracer
Oct 6, 2007

Quit drinking while training for a marathon.. I need a hobby...badly.

At least I still have the Duc for a daily driver. I don't see this thing going anywhere for a while.

Shouting Melon
Mar 20, 2009

Isn't it an amazing coincidence that two totally different planets would both invent the compact disc?


2006 VTR250, ~8300km, paid $5000 cash. It's exactly like my old, now written-off VTR, except a year newer and with fewer kms on the clock. Won't go around corners as fast as the CBR125R I've been riding for the last few weeks, but it'll definitely power out of them quicker.

I do miss the handling of the 125, though, so I'm thinking of maybe buying an RS125 as well.

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Shouting Melon posted:

I do miss the handling of the 125, though, so I'm thinking of maybe buying an RS125 as well.

Just in case you don't know, an RS125 will be completely different to a CBR125.

Having said that...http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Motorbikes-ATVs/Motorbikes/AdNumber=TP004351448?BackToResult=true&AdOnTop=

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
This came home with me today (not my place).



Hell loving yeah. 2nd "new bike day" in less than a month!

oXDemosthenesXo
May 9, 2005
Grimey Drawer

the walkin dude posted:

This came home with me today (not my place).



Hell loving yeah. 2nd "new bike day" in less than a month!

I'm having a hard time telling what that is. Naked GSXR? I'm jealous no matter what it is.

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


oXDemosthenesXo posted:

I'm having a hard time telling what that is. Naked GSXR? I'm jealous no matter what it is.

SVN (Maybe converted S) 2003+ w/ clipons

Shouting Melon
Mar 20, 2009

Isn't it an amazing coincidence that two totally different planets would both invent the compact disc?

2ndclasscitizen posted:

Just in case you don't know, an RS125 will be completely different to a CBR125.

Having said that...http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Motorbikes-ATVs/Motorbikes/AdNumber=TP004351448?BackToResult=true&AdOnTop=

We've got a bunch of RG250 and KR250 two-strokes in the shed here :D, so I know how the power delivery works. The 125 is more for something I can ride on the road and not be all "oh, 130 in a 50 zone again". Also there's parts available for it without having to learn how to sprechen sie Deutsch.

Unfortunately, I'm on the west coast where we don't really get much of the cool two-stroke stuff. It's really sad to see a couple of Honda RS125GPs appear on eBay over in QLD pretty much every day.

Shouting Melon fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Apr 10, 2011

schreibs
Oct 11, 2009

Spiffness posted:

SVN (Maybe converted S) 2003+ w/ clipons

Its definitely an SV Id say 2005+ since it has a black frame and 03-04 were silver

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
It's a 2005 SV650 with a GSX-R1000 front end, ZX-6R rear shock, Buell dual headlights, & Power Commander 3 matched up with some engine/exhaust modifications that makes the engine's power curve super sweet.

I'm getting used to the clip-ons. I'm truly in love. Teh gf recently took pictures of the bike overlooking Rochester. I'll be posting them tomorrow.

A Duck!
Apr 22, 2003

That is a really nice SV. I keep toying with the idea of clipons and lowering the headlight/gauges on my Monster but I just can't make up my mind.

the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
My two babies. They're completely different from each other, but I love them just the same.


2005 SV650, information about this bike in a few posts above this one. This bike flies.




2000 SV650 with .90 springs up front, ZX-10R shock, R6 throttle tube, and upgraded sprockets & chain for better acceleration

Slamburger
Jun 27, 2008

the walkin dude posted:

My two babies. They're completely different from each other, but I love them just the same.



That looks like the Rochester skyline right? I'm over in cuse

Edit: I'm glad I read that you posted exactly that three posts ago.

Slamburger fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 10, 2011

SlightlyMadman
Jan 14, 2005

the walkin dude posted:


2005 SV650, information about this bike in a few posts above this one. This bike flies.

Awesome; a friend of mine had I'm pretty sure this exact same bike, year and color and everything. Please don't wad it like he did.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


Why do you want two SVs? Is one going to be for track duty?

Gnaghi
Jan 25, 2008

Is this a good first bike?
The yellow SV looks really sharp (too bad the jacket doesn't match :v:).

I love my Ninja but I think I'd be just as happy with a nice naked SV.

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the walkin dude
Oct 27, 2004

powerfully erect.
My girlfriend rides the blue one, it's considered hers.

Surprisingly, the yellow bike matches quite well with my Hi-Viz helmet and the blue/black scorpion jacket. :D

As for wadding it, I cherish the hell out of the yellow bike, I think it's the maximum I can achieve in terms of the SV650. I've been paranoid of intersections since the accident. I've been practicing figure-8's with the bike. The superior GSXR brakes brings much better emergency stopping ability too. When I rode the blue after the yellow, I was aghast at how crappy the (stock) brakes were in comparison. I want to look into upgrading the brakes of the blue SV.

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