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I wanted to hear a bit more from the ones who did leave. I mean neither of them left because they realised it was all so incredibly wrong, and Louis didn't really ask what their views were now. One of them did say she lost her parents to a cult but I kind of think the other might still be on the same page as her family, just not with them anymore. also it was funny how scared they all were of him, like he was some evil force that might tempt them away from god if they weren't careful and defensive the whole time
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Yeah that seemed pretty weird to me. They are obviously so entrenched in this belief system and yet at the same time there's something about Theroux or the BBC that scares them. I can understand them hovering around the kids because a nice sane person questioning indoctrinated opinions might disrupt the batshit crazy but even 'ol man Phelps seemed to view him as a threat when last he viewed him with derision. I think I prefer the earlier one. This felt a lot more closed in and it felt like they were using Theroux a little bit to get some more exposure. I love the american reaction to the BBC though. Maybe it's just the WBC but those three little letters seem to indicate a force greater than nature to a lot of Americans. And you are right about the lack of time spent on the ones who left. Maybe it would have been a better counterpoint to the earlier documentary if he spent most of this one talking with them and finding out how they are adjusting to life outside of the weirdness. I know the whole Theroux thing is Weird People Living Weird Lives Let's Take A Peek but I felt that ground was already covered fairly well in the first. I'd like him to revisit the brothel in Nevada though. That one is probably my favourite and I often wonder what his partner thought of it. Theroux really seemed to be enjoying himself there.
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How did everyone seem to have so much money? Nice houses etc.
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A5H posted:How did everyone seem to have so much money? Nice houses etc. I think he said a lot of them used to be lawyers.
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Metrication posted:I think he said a lot of them used to be lawyers. Yeah but it seemed to me like their only clients were themselves. I mean, who would actually hire them?
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Apr 5, 2011 12:15
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I think they won a lot of church related lawsuits.
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I think I heard one of their main income sources is suing any grieving relative at their pickets who gets angry enough to hit one of them.Mickolution posted:Hahaha
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The WBC itself is also tax exempt as a recognised religious institution.
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Mickolution posted:I love the wrestling
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Phelps himself was a fairly successful lawyer in his earlier life before he was disbarred. Proper cases, not just this church stuff. Took a lot of civil rights cases at a time when many wouldn't touch them (though according to people he worked with he was a massive racist himself, just not in front of the clients). But really, they're a bunch of comfortable middle class families with real jobs outside the church.
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And they pool their resources, and probably wouldn't spend as much money on booze, smokes, porn and fripperies as normal people.
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jfjnpxmy posted:And they pool their resources, and probably wouldn't spend as much money on booze, smokes, porn and fripperies as normal people. They do spend quite a lot though. They spend around $200 000 a year on travel costs alone. That's some serious dollar.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/apr/05/big-brother-to-return-this-year Thank gently caress I pried the 5 off my remote control when Dicky "Spunk Loving Sluts" Desmond bought the channel.
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This is horrible news. Why can't they let poo poo TV stay dead.
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SeanBeansShako posted:This is horrible news. Why can't they let poo poo TV stay dead. Because retards buy heat magazine. That's why.
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Why does Big Brother bother people so much? It exists in its own time slot and magazines (Heat) and newspapers (Daily Star, The Sun - and if you're reading those and Big Brother content is what you find upsetting about them, then you are a oval office) It's not like the sport, the comes on will nilly at all hours and removes things people watch.
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So I don't know if this is news to anyone in here or not, but remember when Stewart Lee talked about his disastrous gig at Pestival in 41st Best Standup? Well it turns out that was actually a real thing. I just thought it was something he made up for the show. You can watch it here It is actually a lot better than it sounds. Unfortunately Lee doesn't actually ask anyone if they are a sardine though.
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Padje posted:Why does Big Brother bother people so much? It exists in its own time slot and magazines (Heat) and newspapers (Daily Star, The Sun - and if you're reading those and Big Brother content is what you find upsetting about them, then you are a oval office) I don't watch it, but friends/relatives/co-workers etc do. then they talk about how wonderful it is, and how I should watch it too and 
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I managed to watch 'Campus' all the way to the first advert break and feel like I deserve a prize. Jesus that was horrible.
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Padje posted:Why does Big Brother bother people so much? It exists in its own time slot and magazines (Heat) and newspapers (Daily Star, The Sun - and if you're reading those and Big Brother content is what you find upsetting about them, then you are a oval office) Because giving out about the likes of big brother offers an opportunity for people to feel smug and superior to the people who do watch it.
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Mickolution posted:Because giving out about the likes of big brother offers an opportunity for people to feel smug and superior to the people who do watch it. Because they are? Superior, I mean. Smug too.
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I don't think you can act superior or highbrow with anyone thanks to that Av. Campus was loving awful. I was hoping for Green Wing in a school but it was just completely meritless.
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Because Big Brother is one of our biggest cultural lows. I can accept these days people have a issue reading books. Thats cool, the internet is fostering your reading skills. But when they sit down and enjoy watching a program in a house full of crazy desperate people doing sod in an attempt to be famous it just fills me with dispair. Big Brother is several steps away from a televised desperate freak show.
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SeanBeansShako posted:a televised desperate freak show. That would be Britain's Got Talent.
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Flatscan posted:That would be Britain's Got Talent. A televised puritan student dorm with robot masters and cameras then?
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I tried watching Campus but then my foster-cat started giving birth. I was glad for the distraction from that really bleh show. Kittens > Campus.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Because Big Brother is one of our biggest cultural lows. I can accept these days people have a issue reading books. Thats cool, the internet is fostering your reading skills. So what? People enjoy it, so let them have it.
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Big Brother used to be annoying when you wanted to watch some tv and all the other channels were too scared to put anything half decent against Big Brother, but that's not really a problem in this age of iPlayer and 4od.
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Mickolution posted:So what? People enjoy it, so let them have it. People also used to enjoy public hangings, maybe we should bring those back too?
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You're right, people should be forced to watch nothing but BBC4 documentaries. Seriously though, what's wrong with people watching Big Brother?
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Flatscan posted:People also used to enjoy public hangings, maybe we should bring those back too?
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Mickolution posted:Seriously though, what's wrong with people watching Big Brother? Because it's no different than paying a shilling to go and look at the loonies in Bedlam.
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Flatscan posted:Because it's no different than paying a shilling to go and look at the loonies in Bedlam. Oh can I play too? Watching Big Brother is no different than watching a racist paedophile nazi murder babies for fun.
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marktheando posted:Oh can I play too? Watching Big Brother is no different than watching a racist paedophile nazi murder babies for fun. I wouldn't put it past them to put a Nazi paedo in there, but they haven't as yet, they seem to be quite happy recruiting the mentally ill and people with learning disabilities.
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It is pretty exploitive and the worst people ever make money from it. I mean, there are a million other things a human being can waste their time with now. At least when your watching paint dry you know some good has come out of it, something got a new coat a paint.
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Anyone who liked the Louis Theroux documentary should take some time to give this a read: http://www.robertslevinson.com/gaylesissues/features/collect/phelps/bl_phelpsmain.htm It's a fairly comprehensive story of the Westboro baptists, based on interviews with some of the older kids who've left. That family is far more damaged than it would seem. Also, a lot of the younger women involved in the church are ridiculously attractive. That is all.
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Flatscan posted:Because it's no different than paying a shilling to go and look at the loonies in Bedlam. It's very different to that. SeanBeansShako posted:It is pretty exploitive and the worst people ever make money from it. I mean, there are a million other things a human being can waste their time with now. Yes there are, but people like Big Brother and what's wrong with that? There is an element of exploitation, yes, but everyone going in to that house knows what they're letting themselves in for. They want to be famous and for better or worse, they're given that opportunity. Out of interest, who are the "worst people ever" you mentioned?
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