Orgophlax posted:The guy posting enhancement talent gifs in the gifs thread made me wonder if there have been any enhancement talents that actually went on to be big? Steve Lombardi doesn't count. Mick Foley. Not only was he an enchancement talent to main eventer, he also broke his jaw against the bulldogs in his first enchancement match.
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It's OK he enhanced his superstardom in the WWE Universe and brought sports entertainment to us all.
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Apr 6, 2011 02:24
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Didn't X-Pac start as a jobber too? Or was his gimmick just that he was supposed to be a jobber but hey look at that he won! ?
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Apr 6, 2011 02:25
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Jerusalem posted:Didn't X-Pac start as a jobber too? Or was his gimmick just that he was supposed to be a jobber but hey look at that he won! ? Yeah, that was just his gimmick. I think he was only on WWF TV 3 or 4 times before the Razor match, just long enough to establish himself as a jobber so the win would be a shock.
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Apr 6, 2011 02:27
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Lone Rogue posted:I see where you're coming from, but there's also this. I'm going to be volunteering for the first time ever at a wrestling promotion in Hamilton. I have over 5 years of volunteer experience everywhere from Border City Wrestling under Scott D'Amore in Windsor to a smallish promotion in Kingston, Ontario which had a TV deal. If I walk into that promotion and don't shake anyone's hand? I'm spitting in the face of every promoter, booker and wrestler who let me in their locker room. I'm making it clear that I don't belong there, or in any locker room.
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Apr 6, 2011 02:31
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Depending on how you want to define enhanchment talent, but Bret Hart for the jobberest of the jobbers up until they tagged him up the the anvil. He literally didn't win a televised match for the first year or so of his WWF career.
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Apr 6, 2011 02:31
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Even if it wasn't the boss or the bosses son-in-law or an important wrestler with political powers: you still shake hands and introduce yourself if your friends introduce you to someone that you haven't met before. If you don't, it makes you an anti-social douche that doesn't get invited out the next time your friends get together. I always introduce myself and shake hands with anyone my friends introduce me to and I consider it extremely rude if they don't. I have this one friend who is notorious for this. He'll bump into an old high school buddy and procede to talk to them for five minutes. Meanwhile, I'm just standing there staring at walls with my hands in my pockets. After they finally say goodbye, he'll start talking to me as we walk away as if the last five minutes never happened. It's basic social interaction. I'm not saying I'll high-five and have a beer with my NEW best friend right on the spot. Just a simple handshake, exchange of names and just go from there. But, with the whole Mike Sanders thing: he was a WCW midcarder at a time where once the Invasion thing was over every WCW guy now had to fight for a spot on WWF's roster. He could have survived maybe a round of cuts simply by showing Triple H respect that one time. I don't think that Triple H torpedo'd him or anything but rather just made it so nobody would stand up for him once the future endeavored papers came out of the copier.
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Apr 6, 2011 02:34
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Matt Hardy had a few matches as a generic jobber and then went on to be a very successful tag team flippy jobber. Also Gillberg!
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Apr 6, 2011 02:54
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Zack Ryder spent a few years losing on Superstars before going on to win the 2014 Royal Rumble and unifying the WHC and WWE belts at Wrestlemania.
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Apr 6, 2011 03:10
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DannoMack posted:Zack Ryder spent a few years losing on Superstars before going on to win the 2014 Royal Rumble and unifying the WHC and WWE belts at Wrestlemania. Having the unification match also be the end of The Streak was a stroke of genius. Truly, Triple H is the best head booker we've ever had.
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Apr 6, 2011 03:16
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Dr. Video Games 0055 posted:Even if it wasn't the boss or the bosses son-in-law or an important wrestler with political powers: you still shake hands and introduce yourself if your friends introduce you to someone that you haven't met before. If you don't, it makes you an anti-social douche that doesn't get invited out the next time your friends get together. From what I've heard, HHH was on crutches, sitting down and the guy simply didn't see him, so HHH actually got up and shook his hand. It's not like he was purposefully ignoring him.
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Apr 6, 2011 03:53
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Joeslop posted:From what I've heard, HHH was on crutches, sitting down and the guy simply didn't see him, so HHH actually got up and shook his hand. There's an alternate take on the story posted in the last page or so stating that actually Triple H arrived after they were all seated and everybody BUT Sanders got up to go over and say hello, and Raven told him that he should definitely get up and go over and Sanders outright refused to do so.
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Apr 6, 2011 05:15
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The story I told is basically word for word from Raven's Secrets of the Ring DVD when he's teaching about Wrestler Etiquette.
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ADRIEN GRODYS FIFE posted:The story I told is basically word for word from Raven's Secrets of the Ring DVD when he's teaching about Wrestler Etiquette. How Raven remembered it is likely closer to how it happened, even if it is Raven. I heard it second/third hand from someone who worked with Mike Sanders and other guys in Heartland. Either way, there's a reason you don't hear much about Sanders anymore.
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Apr 6, 2011 07:08
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LividLiquid posted:Sanders shook everybody's hand that he saw. His only crime was not seeing HHH. he saw triple h and actively ignored him even being told hey thats triple h stand up and greet him.
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Apr 6, 2011 07:15
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flashy_mcflash posted:*orton* STAC Goat posted:So Sanders is an idiot and HHH is a petty dick. That's what I get out of that story. Just because Sanders should have known better doesn't mean the system isn't still broken at its core. This whole idea of set etiquettes is ridiculous though, like the handshake thing. Not everyone is into shaking hands and that doesn't make them an rear end hole it just means they have different comfort barriers when it comes to socialising. Sue Denim fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Apr 6, 2011 |
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Apr 6, 2011 09:29
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Mr. Carlisle posted:I'm near the end of the first season of Tough Enough and I just saw them play a clip of Ivory wrestling Dean Malenko. What the hell? I don't think I saw this answered. It was around the time he was pursuing Lita and he thought he was super smooth with the ladies (but wasn't)and had a James Bond rip off them also.
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Apr 6, 2011 10:15
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MisterGBH posted:I don't think I saw this answered. It was around the time he was pursuing Lita and he thought he was super smooth with the ladies (but wasn't)and had a James Bond rip off them also. Yeah, he ended up working a L-H title program against Ivory and Jacqueline that never really left Heat. Chavo would then do the same thing a few years later.
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Apr 6, 2011 12:23
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WeaselWeaz posted:It's accepted in wrestling that you call the guy by their stage name because that's the name they professionally go by and it's just easier to remember. Many people who met Mick Foley in WCW and ECW still call him Cactus, Cac, or Jack because that's what they're used to. It's like if you were a peer of Nicholas Cage are yo going to call him "Cappola"? It also makes life easier because seemingly everyone in wrestling is named Scott, so at least with this system there's a more specific way to address - Razor, Bam Bam, Raven, etc. It's like a nickname.
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Apr 6, 2011 14:25
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KildarX posted:Why was the British Bulldog in a Six Pack Challenge with HHH, Mankind, Rock, Show, and Kane in Unforgiven '99? It seemed a random rear end choice now that I think about it. Rarity posted:How did Maven end up main-eventing Survivor Series 2004? Seeing the likes of Edge and Triple H sell for him is plain surreal Minidust posted:One could say he main evented in the Tyler Reks sense. What are some other multi-man main events with a really out-of-place participant? Obvious ones I can think of are: Hell in a Cell: Austin vs Rock vs Undertaker vs Kurt Angle vs Triple H vs Rikishi Elimination Chamber: John Cena vs Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho vs Edge vs Kane vs Mike Knox
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Apr 6, 2011 14:27
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According to Raven, the reason Sanders didn't shake HHH's hand was he was intimidated. He tells is in his last Secrets of the Ring DVD and uses it as an example of how it doesn't matter if traditions seem dumb or wrong in real life, it's a part of the job. Also, HHH had to come over to Sanders, on crutches and introduce himself, which I would be annoyed with if I was him. Raven's DVDs are a great education on wrestling if anybody wants one. I can't recommend them enough.
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Apr 6, 2011 14:32
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Web Jew.0 posted:Elimination Chamber: John Cena vs Rey Mysterio vs Chris Jericho vs Edge vs Kane vs Mike Knox You what? Invasion 2001: Steve Austin, Kurt Angle, Chris Jericho, Undertaker and Kane vs. Booker T, DDP, the Dudleys and Rhyno
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Apr 6, 2011 14:32
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Rarity posted:You what? Rhyno was the last ECW champion, so it makes sense.
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Apr 6, 2011 14:34
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wasn't Rhyno pretty over at the time?
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Web Jew.0 posted:What are some other multi-man main events with a really out-of-place participant? Obvious ones I can think of are: Rikishi was really over at the time and had only shortly before been revealed as the one who ran over Austin a year before. He wasn't out of place at all in that match. Plus he took the big bump.
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Apr 6, 2011 14:46
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Lone Goat posted:If you are sitting watching a monitor backstage and a veteran/agent approaches, offer him your chair. If he declines your offer, then stand up anyway because if someone sees you sitting while he's standing, you're hosed. Great tip!
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Apr 6, 2011 14:50
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Web Jew.0 posted:What are some other multi-man main events with a really out-of-place participant? Obvious ones I can think of are: Savio was actually a mystery partner reveal, replacing an injured Shawn Michaels 
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WeaselWeaz posted:According to Raven, the reason Sanders didn't shake HHH's hand was he was intimidated. He tells is in his last Secrets of the Ring DVD and uses it as an example of how it doesn't matter if traditions seem dumb or wrong in real life, it's a part of the job. Also, HHH had to come over to Sanders, on crutches and introduce himself, which I would be annoyed with if I was him. I'm not a Triple H hater but seeing middle aged men act like frat boys is just really sad. I think this type of behaviour shows way more social ineptitude then not introducing yourself to someone. Anyway. Just out of curiosity what was the disorder JR has and how does it effect him? Because I've heard people referencing how the Oklahoma character was distasteful because of the traits that were portrayed which were an effect of the disorder JR has but I didn't see any of that not knowing he had any type of disorder, I thought that was just JR.
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Apr 6, 2011 15:38
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Sue Denim posted:Well that certainly sounds like being a big baby to me. See a normal person wouldn't be so self involved to take it as a personal insult because someone didn''t introduce themselves and would just think something like 'That's okay, we'll speak next time'. JR has Bells Palsy and it basically means part of his face is paralyzed, so that's why he speaks the way he does...though I miss hearing his voice. 
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Apr 6, 2011 15:42
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That's odd, I've never noticed any kind of speech impediment, it just sounds like a strong southern accent with a lot of enthusiasm to me.
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Apr 6, 2011 16:56
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Sue Denim posted:That's odd, I've never noticed any kind of speech impediment, it just sounds like a strong southern accent with a lot of enthusiasm to me. You can notice a pretty significant difference watching JR's WCW and early WWF commentating (WrestleMania IX and KOTR 1993) to now.
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Apr 6, 2011 17:04
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MisterGBH posted:I don't think I saw this answered. It was around the time he was pursuing Lita and he thought he was super smooth with the ladies (but wasn't)and had a James Bond rip off them also. Rarity posted:Yeah, he ended up working a L-H title program against Ivory and Jacqueline that never really left Heat. Chavo would then do the same thing a few years later. Thanks for the answers. The fact that they had Dean Malenko playing a ladies man blows my mind regardless of the outcome. He's the fuckin' Iceman! It sounds entertaining in an awful way, though.
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Apr 6, 2011 17:21
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Bearnt! posted:You can notice a pretty significant difference watching JR's WCW and early WWF commentating (WrestleMania IX and KOTR 1993) to now. But more credit to him for being the best in the business if he's had to conquer an adversity that would effect him in that way.
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Apr 6, 2011 17:24
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Thanks for the answers. The fact that they had Dean Malenko playing a ladies man blows my mind regardless of the outcome. He's the fuckin' Iceman! It sounds entertaining in an awful way, though.
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Apr 6, 2011 17:39
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I thought Bell's Palsy only affected you temporary time periods, though? I had a friend in high school who had it, and he recovered and was normal afterward. Granted, he's always at risk for another attack, but it doesn't permanently affect him or anything. That being said the little time JR was on Raw was the first time I've heard JR in several years. He sounded different from what I remembered (early 2000s), but that could have just been me. Question: What's up with Albert these days? Is he an actual bear like his gimmick was?
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Apr 6, 2011 17:46
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Minidust posted:No Way Out (Of Texas) 1998 main event: Steve Austin, Owen Hart (!), Mick Foley, and Terry Funk vs. Triple H, The New Age Outlaws, and Savio Vega I was there for that match. That was bullshit, but it also kind of made sense because Austin had been messing with Vega for forever.
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Apr 6, 2011 17:54
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I think Ross's condition is a side effect that like 2% of people with Bell's Palsy get or something like that.
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Apr 6, 2011 17:56
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crankdatbatman posted:Question: What's up with Albert these days? Is he an actual bear like his gimmick was? He's been over in Japan for over 5 years now and is doing quite well there. I believe he is currently one half of the tag team champions in NJPW. Not sure if he is an actual bear there or not.
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crankdatbatman posted:Question: What's up with Albert these days? Is he an actual bear like his gimmick was? Albert is wrestling in NJPW as Giant Bernard, tagging as one half of the tag team champions with Machine Gun Karl Anderson known as Bad Intentions. He's now one of the top outside talents in Japan, and improved massively in his time over there.
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Captain Magic posted:I was there for that match. That was bullshit, but it also kind of made sense because Austin had been messing with Vega for forever. I remember that match being pretty entertaining, does anyone remember? Should I go back and watch it?
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