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magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




Trying my hands at some ambience lately thanks to being inspired by the opening song to Mass Effect 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOvwAYLWO88

Can anyone tell me how to get the opening swirly drone down? Is it just an LFO on top of a sine? I can't seem to get it right.

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colonp
Apr 21, 2007
Hi!
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colonp fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 8, 2014

doo doo guy
Jan 2, 2008

Does anyone know where that overused build sample (often used in rap music (only used in rap music)) comes from?
You can hear it at 0:13 on this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgV8E3QHkeM

Some tips on recreating it would be appreciated, but seeing as it's identical to the sound from many other songs like it, I assume it's some sort of sample or preset. I tried googling "hip hop build sample" but it was just a whole bunch of unrelated stuff.

doo doo guy fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 16, 2011

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002
The first thing that comes to mind when I hear the words "preset" and "rap" is: "buy a Korg Triton so you can sound just like every other rap producer who never uses anything but Triton presets" (a.k.a every big name producer from east of the Rockies).

On the other hand, you can pretty much recreate that with any decent synthesizer by using an envelope to raise the osc pitch with a decent amount of attack on it, and either modulating the amp with an LFO or running it through any of a number of gating/tremolo type effects to create the stuttering on/off/on/off sound.

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
I'm having some trouble nailing down this particular style of midrange:

sp:mc & LX One - Down

I know it's sort of the same approach you'd take for the generic aggressive midrange, but I can't figure it out. My best guess is to take the sine sub, crush it with a waveshaper of some kind and highpass it, but it's the 'exposed power line' tone that I can't seem to find. Any tips?

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003
Experiment with AM and RingMod.

Crazy C
Dec 3, 2010
STOP LEECHING IMAGES, DICKFACE
Im busy trying to get the sound out of Fedde le Grand's - Control Room, the sound comes in at 1:00 (the ringing almost bell type sound??)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuppYbpagwU

I'm using Reason 4 so some help would be appreciated.


Also trying to get the sound that fades in on this track

http://soundcloud.com/delortmaurin/blender

The Cleaner
Jul 18, 2008

I WILL DEVOUR YOUR BALLS!
:quagmire:
Can anyone recommend some good techniques or plug-ins for creating a "stadium crowd" chant effect over vocals?

Obviously I don't have access to an actual massive crowd of people to record singing. I've been writing and mixing some hip-hop and one particular track I'd like to get a "crowd" to chant the lyrics in the background over the vocalists chorus.

I've tried recording a dozen takes of myself yelling the chorus and mixing them together and pitch shifting/chorus effect/huge reverb... but it really isn't working well. Is there any better methods or tricks for this?

Popcorn
May 25, 2004

You're both fuckin' banned!

Popcorn posted:

Anyone have any insight on how M83 processes vocals? I like that ethereal processed sound.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9yvItZAjfY&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4Pg-2LP76g

No clues on this?

wayfinder
Jul 7, 2003

The Cleaner posted:

Can anyone recommend some good techniques or plug-ins for creating a "stadium crowd" chant effect over vocals?

Obviously I don't have access to an actual massive crowd of people to record singing. I've been writing and mixing some hip-hop and one particular track I'd like to get a "crowd" to chant the lyrics in the background over the vocalists chorus.

I've tried recording a dozen takes of myself yelling the chorus and mixing them together and pitch shifting/chorus effect/huge reverb... but it really isn't working well. Is there any better methods or tricks for this?

Recordings of actual crowds. There are tons of sample CDs that have something like this. Standard for many "hardcore/gabba/hands-up" style sample packs, too. (And then pitch shifting those I guess.)

The Cleaner
Jul 18, 2008

I WILL DEVOUR YOUR BALLS!
:quagmire:

wayfinder posted:

Recordings of actual crowds. There are tons of sample CDs that have something like this. Standard for many "hardcore/gabba/hands-up" style sample packs, too. (And then pitch shifting those I guess.)

I don't mean just generic stock crowd chanting but actually getting crowd-style effect of specific lyrics we have. Like being able to take a chorus and have a crowd chanting OUR OWN lyrics.

I know that's pretty tricky. Reverb and a couple layerings alone sure won't cut it. But I've heard some really cool stuff done and I know there are some interested "ensemble" plug ins that get somewhat close. Maybe any recommendations on something like that? Mixing up multiple sources then processing them through something like that?

Rkelly
Sep 7, 2003
I bet ten people into Speakerphone would do the trick. Get kids and young and old adults. Speakerphone has like infinite uses.

pennywisdom
Mar 21, 2004

For those looking for a drone/ambient thing, I'd recommend picking up an ebow. Here's a quick video I shot when I first got mine as a quick example, it sounds loving incredible with reverb and delay.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vnyxy9u48I

edit : I switch modes on the ebow at about :45

pennywisdom fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Mar 26, 2011

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the instruments used in this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm4SZgupmk4

I can tell there's a lot of organ-styled synths in there, as well as a guitar, but the lead line I can't quite figure out. Could it be a heavily processed guitar? It really kicks in after the final 'launch sequence'. It's pretty badass.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I'm not sure what's going on in this track (Wolves in the Throne Room - Dia Artio), but I absolutely love the sound and would love to recreate it... and have no idea where to start. At times it sounds like synth and at times it sounds like tremolo-picked guitar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmx73CMapPU

Crazed_Capybara_Rider
Oct 22, 2000

I keep hearing this sound in a lot of songs, this is one of the most recent ones I've heard it in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4H_Zoh7G5A

it starts at 18 seconds, that arpeggiated trance kind of sound. It sounds like something with delay...but I don't know what. I love the sound though and would love to be able to play around with it.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Crazed_Capybara_Rider posted:

I keep hearing this sound in a lot of songs, this is one of the most recent ones I've heard it in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4H_Zoh7G5A

it starts at 18 seconds, that arpeggiated trance kind of sound. It sounds like something with delay...but I don't know what. I love the sound though and would love to be able to play around with it.

Yes, there's a delay on it, but I doubt there's an arpeggiator involved. Brush up on your keyboard fingering skills. ;)

Vector 7
Sep 29, 2010

How do I make the "Yeah" sound at :59?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOuxTQpxawc

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002
If I picked the correct sound you're asking about (nobody is saying 'yeah' in that song?), it sounds like an organ run through distortion and maybe highpass filtered.

Barn Door
Mar 6, 2007

shut the fuck up charles

dolphins are gay posted:

was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the instruments used in this track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm4SZgupmk4

I can tell there's a lot of organ-styled synths in there, as well as a guitar, but the lead line I can't quite figure out. Could it be a heavily processed guitar? It really kicks in after the final 'launch sequence'. It's pretty badass.

Definitely a synth with very fast portamento and heavy use of the pitchbend lever

Vector 7
Sep 29, 2010

HotCanadianChick posted:

If I picked the correct sound you're asking about (nobody is saying 'yeah' in that song?), it sounds like an organ run through distortion and maybe highpass filtered.
It's a synth sound, not someone saying "yeah". It just sounds like it. I've heard a similar sound in other tracks, I'll go find one.

Listen starting at :40. Hear the sound I'm talking about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph9ohnEF3LA

Soup in a Bag
Dec 4, 2009
I don't know exactly how to get that sound, but check out "formant filters" to get those vocal/vowel sort of sounds. Here's an example in Live.

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

I've always been blown away by the buzzy synth line in Rokysopp's "Vision One." The sound I'm talking about starts at 1:47 and mutates/continues on for a while. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgktUe6q2s

Now, I've got a modular synth and a bunch of other analogs and I've never heard anything get that amount of ratcheting buzz out of the filter. How on earth did they achieve that sound? I definitely hear a really slow-spept oscillator sync, a bunch of distortion, but how about that creaky buzz, especially when it starts?

a_gelatinous_cube
Feb 13, 2005

I've never messed with vocoders or any sort of vocal processing at all, so I'm a bit clueless about it. What would I need to use to get a really cheesey female robot sounding voice like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRcXVZFlSWY#t=1m35s

parade
Mar 5, 2010

Transistor Rhythm posted:

I've always been blown away by the buzzy synth line in Rokysopp's "Vision One." The sound I'm talking about starts at 1:47 and mutates/continues on for a while. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUgktUe6q2s

Now, I've got a modular synth and a bunch of other analogs and I've never heard anything get that amount of ratcheting buzz out of the filter. How on earth did they achieve that sound? I definitely hear a really slow-spept oscillator sync, a bunch of distortion, but how about that creaky buzz, especially when it starts?

I've heard similar results from taking a kick drum with a nice attack and then looping just the first bit and tuning it into a bass.

Here's a 30-second crack at it, just to demonstrate what I'm talking about :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9620/vison1.mp3

If that's not how they did it, at least it's a neat and somewhat unorthodox sound-source. :)

reversefungi
Nov 27, 2003

Master of the high hat!
How do I get that ridiculous rising bass sound at 1:40 from Skrillex's Remix at 1:40?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaIZ0mUJzr0

I'm guessing it's some sort of layered sound, maybe 2 oscillators layered octaves apart? I can't get that sound right or that automation either.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




he uses a similar sound a few tracks. Apparently it's NI Massive, there's a few youtubes kicking around with tutorials, might give you some starting points. I'm no Massive expert by any means, but I suspect there's at least two instances of it being used in some parts of that. Does anyone else think some of the sounds are reminiscent of dogs barking, lions roaring etc. ?

edit: fooled around a bit, apply Perf (7) to your cutoff, add feedback and feed bass in. Go to your Perf tab and go nuts on it. You're gonna need to jam.

edit 2:

found this for you:

http://freedubbytechyshizz.blogspot.com/2011/02/flux-pavillion-ni-massive-presets.html

I made this with it:

http://soundcloud.com/m-dubbs/papparazzi-remix

well why not fucked around with this message at 11:15 on Apr 11, 2011

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

parade posted:

I've heard similar results from taking a kick drum with a nice attack and then looping just the first bit and tuning it into a bass.

Here's a 30-second crack at it, just to demonstrate what I'm talking about :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9620/vison1.mp3

If that's not how they did it, at least it's a neat and somewhat unorthodox sound-source. :)

Yeah, that's really interesting! Thanks. The sound on the track is much more "VA" than that, but I think the concept applies - I think it's a big clue to what's actually going on on the modulation side. I'm not sure what they use.

Soup in a Bag
Dec 4, 2009
If you google "royksopp vision one lead synth" or something like that, you'll find quite a bit of discussion on creating that sound. One guy claims he recreated it pretty well in Live, but the sound example links are dead and I haven't tried it. Another guy says it was pretty easy to recreate with a Virus TI with digital distortion. In general, people seem to be mentioning FM, digital distortion and waveshaping as good starting points.

sswanso
Jul 4, 2006

we are social fools
Apologies if this kind of sound has already been covered, buuuuut:

I'm interested in re-creating this sort of slow-descending monophonic effect that I've heard in The Epoxies' "Radiation" (as seen here at the 1:06 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KovnejWO32k) and at the end of both Moog solos on Devo's "Mongoloid" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrISZAF7lo). I know I could probably recreate it messing with portamento speed and hitting two notes that're completely opposite from each other, and it seems like such a simple effect, but it's driving me crazy that I can't figure it out.

If it helps, I'm looking to re-create this for a recording session, so it's not like I'll need this effect on a moment's notice while playing live. Huge amounts of pre-programming and fiddling about are welcome.

Also, to add another layer of frustration, I've only got a Microkorg, and Alesis Micron and a copy of Reason 5.0 at my disposal to re-create this sound. Any suggestions? :shobon:

Fmoof
Jan 2, 2004
I've been learning me some Reason and Logic lately, and been getting into synthesizers and software elements. One sound that I'd like to recreate but I have no idea how to is the giant "WROOOOOOOOH" sound from Planet Telex off of Radiohead's The Bends. It happens on the first beat of every bar in the chorus. Starts at 1:23.

Here's a link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXyrCRd1ikw

Haledjian
May 29, 2008

YOU CAN'T MOVE WITH ME IN THIS DIGITAL SPACE
Trying to make a cop siren in FL with Massive. Any thoughts?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3677532/copsiren2.mp3

Also I'm new to Massive and not sure what the best way is to get the LFO rate to jump to different preset speeds instead of me turning the knob manually.

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




Could you use the Performer over an LFO? Set it so you have fast spikes, then slow, then fast? It's sounding good so far.

Gremlin
Aug 9, 2002
I'm looking to recreate the following effect for DJing. The particular sound I'm focusing on comes in around 5:50 of this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llNLL8RLI6M&feature=youtu.be&hd=1#t=5m50s

Amon Tobin does all kinds of incredible sounds like this that sound super awesome live and I wanted to get an idea of how I can make some similar types of sounds in a live DJ setting with Ableton in particular.

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Haledjian posted:

Trying to make a cop siren in FL with Massive. Any thoughts?

Good, but don't modulate too fast. Experiment with a 2-step Performer with a linear ramp up and an exponential ramp down to figure out the best waveform. You could use envelopes for the Doppler effect :v:

quote:

Also I'm new to Massive and not sure what the best way is to get the LFO rate to jump to different preset speeds instead of me turning the knob manually.

Modulate the LFO speed with a Stepper. Set it to a low rate. Alternatively, connect LFO rate to the velocity (but make sure the volume is not linked; then you can use that to set controlled random rates.

Also, apologies for not visiting this thread in months; we've built a new house and the new studio looks like an exploded music store. I've only had access to my laptop for nearly 2 months or so now.

GbrushTwood
Jul 18, 2004
Mighty Pirate.
Good to see you back in fine form Yoozer! All of your help through the years has definitely helped me progress as a musician, so a million times, thank you.

I had another question for you, Uppermost just released a preview of his track today:
http://soundcloud.com/uppermost/system32-club-mix @ around 29 seconds in, the main riff drops in, and I've been wondering what kind of sound that is? Wolfgang Gartner uses it a lot, and it sounds like some sort of polysaw layered with subbass and another low end saw?

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




Here's some new analog synth thats coming out soon.. and the bass combined with its resonator is just filthy.

Any ideas on how to recreate? Its probably pretty easy but I'm a super newb at synths.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEdj4A818XU&feature=player_embedded

Right around 1 minute in..

hugs.

LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop
I'm trying to find where a certain sample comes from. I know the Beastie Boys used it and when I remember what track, I'll edit this post and mention it. It's someone singing "Seee whaaat's happeniiiiiing!"

edit: Sorry if this is the wrong thread for this by the way. But the sample can be heard at around 1:10 or 1:11 of "Get It Together" by The Beastie Boys on Ill Communication. Anyone know where this is from?

You can also listen here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7REpJlMfLo#t=1m10s

edit 2: I think it's from Grand Funk Railroad so I'm listening to some tracks and I'll give an update if no one beats me to it.

edit 3: I'm stumped.

LP0 ON FIRE fucked around with this message at 05:46 on May 3, 2011

Soup in a Bag
Dec 4, 2009
WhoSampled says it's from Eugene McDaniels' Headless Heroes.

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LP0 ON FIRE
Jan 25, 2006

beep boop

Soup in a Bag posted:

WhoSampled says it's from Eugene McDaniels' Headless Heroes.

Thanks.. it is! I can't believe how off key he is sometimes in this track, but it's still nice.

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