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I'm a big fan of JJGo, but all of these criticisms are correct.
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Fitzdog Radio was kind of odd today. His guest was Teresa Strasser who used to be Adam Carolla's sidekick. After a weird discussion of her sex life, she talked about how much she misses the podcast and can't even listen to it now. It looks like her leaving the show was more complicated than it appeared. I'm still getting used to the new sidekick, Alison Rosen. She's not as confident as Strasser, and her voice is sort of muffled, but she's growing on me.
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Apr 7, 2011 20:25
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Alastor_the_Stylish posted:Since when is WTF a comedy podcast? Exactly, the only reason i'll listen to WTF is if he has a guest I want to hear about.
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Apr 7, 2011 20:41
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To be fair, I laugh at WTF, but mainly when guys like Conan call out his horrible projection and self-absorbed nature. Still, the laughs are real.
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Apr 7, 2011 20:44
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No Best Show on that list is shameful.
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Apr 7, 2011 21:14
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Groucho Marxist posted:No Best Show on that list is shameful. Wait, WhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??
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Apr 7, 2011 21:27
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oneof27 posted:Does anyone here listen to the Grapes of Rad? I do. They're not my favorite, but they're entertaining enough. Plus for me they're local so they reference things around here sometimes (Seattle).
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Apr 7, 2011 22:35
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-Atom- posted:Exactly, the only reason i'll listen to WTF is if he has a guest I want to hear about. Then you're missing out on a lot of really great interviews. Not a snipe: if you like what he draws out of people that you want to hear from, he gets really good stuff out of everyone he talks to. Also, Sarah Vowell kinda ate her balls on the live WTF. She had a few great lines, but didn't ever mesh with the rest of the panel. Sort of an interesting shift, since she generally has the crowd eating out of her hand when dealing with "her" audience.
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Apr 7, 2011 22:46
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Yeah some of the best WTF's for me have been with the people I haven't heard of or didn't know well. One of my favorites, for example, was Stephen Tobolowsky. He got about as much out of Conan as anyone can, dude is not easy to divulge stuff.
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Apr 7, 2011 22:52
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Groucho Marxist posted:No Best Show on that list is shameful. It's more of an actual radio show. I didn't get to listen live on Tuesday so I'm catching up now, Tom loving with the Fredericks soundboard is amazing.
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Apr 7, 2011 23:45
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The Modern Leper posted:Then you're missing out on a lot of really great interviews. Not a snipe: if you like what he draws out of people that you want to hear from, he gets really good stuff out of everyone he talks to. I listen to podcasts to laugh, not to hear some neurotic comedian talking about nothing for an hour. I don't find it interesting.
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Apr 8, 2011 00:04
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-Atom- posted:I listen to podcasts to laugh, not to hear some neurotic comedian talking about nothing for an hour. I feel the same way. But it's not Maron that's usually the problem, it's the guest. Whenever the guest has had an interesting life, Maron is great at getting good stories out of them. He has no qualms about coming off as rude or mean, and he'll badger guests until they open up. But most of those comics just want to talk about how they paid their dues at open mic nights our whatever, and that gets old really fast.
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Apr 8, 2011 00:55
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-Atom- posted:I listen to podcasts to laugh, not to hear some neurotic comedian talking about nothing for an hour. I'm the exact same way I love good interviews, I hate Maron because he does not do good interviews. He badgers and harps on guests, mainly projecting his own very deep and very troubling problems and sometimes getting lucky when someone shares them. I don't even dislike him anymore, honestly after hearing his thing with Conan I just feel sorry for him, because he's so obviously grasping for someone to feel bad with because he's lonely.
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Apr 8, 2011 00:57
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Vigilantly Vigorous posted:Out of the episodes I've listened to I haven't laughed once at WTF. Doesn't mean it's not great, though. (but I get what you mean)
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Apr 8, 2011 00:57
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shotgunbadger posted:He badgers and harps on guests, mainly projecting his own very deep and very troubling problems and sometimes getting lucky when someone shares them. I don't think that's a problem. I mean, he has his own interests, and he wants to hear people talk about certain things. That's true of all interviewers. But he's also very open and honest about himself. Often, that leads the guest opening up, too. Maron doesn't shut them down to talk about himself - he encourages it. It didn't work with Conan (who as far as I can tell never lets his guard down ever) and it doesn't work with everyone. But when it works, it feels like an interesting, emotional, honest conversation between two people.
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Apr 8, 2011 01:17
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wafflesnsegways posted:I don't think that's a problem. I mean, he has his own interests, and he wants to hear people talk about certain things. That's true of all interviewers. Honestly that last line is the problem. It's not 'his guard', from what I heard it really did seem like the guy had no issues like that, and was legit annoyed Marc wouldn't accept that. Of course every interview has an agenda, but what Marc does goes beyond the pale, he doesn't care about actual information, he does Barbra Walters style of 'if I can get them to have an emotional reveal I win' and honestly he gets upset when people don't either have the issues he wants, or have them and won't play his game.
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Apr 8, 2011 01:25
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The absence of Who Charted? from that list is shameful. I don't think there's a single episode where I haven't coughed from laughing so hard yet and this week's is certainly no exception. I'm only 20 minutes into it but Thomas Lennon deconstructing rap lyrics and hoping for a fascist regime so we get some good party jams already has me doubled over.
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Apr 8, 2011 02:02
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t3ch3 posted:The absence of Who Charted? from that list is shameful. I don't think there's a single episode where I haven't coughed from laughing so hard yet and this week's is certainly no exception. I'm only 20 minutes into it but Thomas Lennon deconstructing rap lyrics and hoping for a fascist regime so we get some good party jams already has me doubled over. Its important to visit the Earwolf site to see that Harris Wittels has added a chart of his top 5 favorite porn sites (with explantions!) in the comments! http://www.earwolf.com/show/who-charted-howard-kremer
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Apr 8, 2011 02:22
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I can't understand how Brian Redban's girl is a 10 - whatever a 10 is.
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Apr 8, 2011 02:31
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t3ch3 posted:The absence of Who Charted? from that list is shameful. I don't think there's a single episode where I haven't coughed from laughing so hard yet and this week's is certainly no exception. I'm only 20 minutes into it but Thomas Lennon deconstructing rap lyrics and hoping for a fascist regime so we get some good party jams already has me doubled over. I've got to say that Who Charted is probably my favorite podcast right now, I always laugh out loud. I think Howard is just gifted at asking stupid questions, and Kulap gives the show a great energy. Also I think the atmosphere of the show makes guests just... be their best I think. My favorite part this week was when Thomas Lennon kept wanting to decapitate Kulap.
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Apr 8, 2011 03:59
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Eltoasto posted:Stephen Tobolowsky. I was really hyped about him, being being a character actor who's in everything. But really he's an insufferable bore. Watch "Stephen Tobolowski's Birthday" (available on Netflix). He's really impressed with himself. On his WTF ep I'd bet either 90% of what he says are lies, or he's had the most insane life ever. I feel like someone told him: "Hey, you're that guy that everyone recognizes but nobody really knows personally" and he invented all of these crazy things that he talks about. I can't get over his "but you have to hear about THIS!" sort of vibe he puts out. If all of those things really did happen to him, then it was wasted on someone who just sounds obnoxious. Yes, I realize I sound like a huge jerk for saying that.
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Apr 8, 2011 06:29
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jyrka posted:I can't understand how Brian Redban's girl is a 10 - whatever a 10 is. An "L.A." 10 at that. I guess the running thing is that Brian, while being an average looking nerdy guy, pulls really hot girls all the time. Having Joe Rogan as your BFF couldn't hurt.
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Apr 8, 2011 06:32
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Steve Slavery posted:My favorite part this week was when Thomas Lennon kept wanting to decapitate Kulap. This vs. Brody are battling it out for my favorite episode, and I think this one is winning. Lennon is hilarious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTCkmvSwIjw
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Apr 8, 2011 06:35
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I just listened to the Oswalt/Daly Comedy Death Ray today while I was waiting at a mechanics and I kept bursting out laughing and getting crazy stares. The goddamn pussy pasties and everything that Daly did were great.
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Apr 8, 2011 06:58
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A PRIZED MULE! posted:I was really hyped about him, being being a character actor who's in everything. But really he's an insufferable bore. Watch "Stephen Tobolowski's Birthday" (available on Netflix). He's really impressed with himself. On his WTF ep I'd bet either 90% of what he says are lies, or he's had the most insane life ever. I feel like someone told him: "Hey, you're that guy that everyone recognizes but nobody really knows personally" and he invented all of these crazy things that he talks about. I can't get over his "but you have to hear about THIS!" sort of vibe he puts out. If all of those things really did happen to him, then it was wasted on someone who just sounds obnoxious. No I definitely agree. I didn't really think he was lying so much as just making a big deal out of coincidences, which is annoying but something people do all the time. Now that I think about it though, it is possible he was just making poo poo up or exaggerating.
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Creflo Chronicle posted:No I definitely agree. I didn't really think he was lying so much as just making a big deal out of coincidences, which is annoying but something people do all the time. Now that I think about it though, it is possible he was just making poo poo up or exaggerating. Thanks for understanding. I hate to be the guy to say "He's kind of an rear end in a top hat", but in this case I really think he's kind of an rear end in a top hat. It sucks because I'd really like to believe it, but I just don't buy it. On the flipside, if he really is telling the truth, then it makes that whole movie about him an inside view into the life of a guy that won't shut the gently caress up about himself for five seconds. Of his "friends" the only famous person that shows up for his birthday party is Mena Suvari (who I don't really like either). Not that he has to have famous friends, but it's kind of touted like that. I was happier in a world where he was just Sammy Jenkis, Needle-Nose Ned, and "My Voice is my Passport" guy. I liked him there, before he opened his mouth and ruined it all. I knew his name. People that are into movies know his name. In a weird way he was "famous enough" if that makes sense.
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Apr 8, 2011 08:47
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soggybagel posted:The goddamn pussy pasties and everything that Daly did were great.
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Apr 8, 2011 18:57
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A PRIZED MULE! posted:This vs. Brody are battling it out for my favorite episode, and I think this one is winning. Lennon is hilarious. The Brody Stevens episodes are so grating to me. I find horrible uncomfortable situations to be funny, but his guest appearances are the only thing in the world that can make me think about throwing my laptop out the window.
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Apr 8, 2011 19:23
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t3ch3 posted:The absence of Who Charted? from that list is shameful. I don't think there's a single episode where I haven't coughed from laughing so hard yet and this week's is certainly no exception. I'm only 20 minutes into it but Thomas Lennon deconstructing rap lyrics and hoping for a fascist regime so we get some good party jams already has me doubled over. I like Who Charted, but I would consider Sklarboro Country funnier. There back and forth with each other about Drew Carey going into the WWE Hall of Fame was the best.
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Apr 8, 2011 19:52
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While I definitely understand the criticisms levied at WTF and Marc's interview style, I think most people may not be giving him enough credit in how conscious and aware he is about it all. It's quite possible it didn't start this way, but as his show got more successful, he's been, I think, purposefully tuning his interview style to be more effective. He focuses on himself, rather than the guest, to demonstrate the level of openness and willingness to confess things, air grievances, and negotiate personal issues that he's wanting to achieve in the interview. After a bit, the guest gets a lot more comfortable because of how honest and revealing Marc's been about his serious problems, and they are a lot more willing to make similar confessions more out of a desire to connect and empathize in a legitimate way with their interviewer, rather than communicate to the listeners of the interview their own viewpoint on their own issues. (Not only does it take pressure off the guest/subject since the focus isn't solely on them as it normally is, but it also mitigates expectations in the moment of the subject being the main speaker, as they have to be with typical interviews, definitely leading to less anxiety.) This way, Marc gets the interviewee to discuss their personal issues within the frame of common encouragement and personal solidarity with someone else, where they're much more willing to be honest and not censor their speech, instead of typical confessional interviews, where the subject is quite aware that they're speaking to the audience at home rather than the person in front of them. Marc strives for honesty and sincerity in all of his comedic endeavors, not just a "Barbara Walters style ... emotional reveal" for victory. One of the greatest tactics for getting people to open-up and be honest is to start being honest and open yourself. That's a very conscious re-working of the interview genre, where typically the interviewer isn't even a person of the slightest interest to the "interview" itself; they're largely just passive, question-launching robots. Instead, Marc breaks that convention to change the relationship expected to regulate the interaction between participants in an interview; which is a pretty drat good way to make sure your celebrity guest doesn't just fire-back their pre-written, publicist-crafted, stock answers to your questions. I think doing the show in his garage helps with all this too. This is the same thing Marc does in his stand-up, just realized in a different and more pragmatic way. He's known to sit at the edge of the stage, cross-legged in the centre, or exchange the typical stool with whatever poo poo wooden chair is nearby, so that he can be more comfortable. He plays off his natural insecurities and self-focused-ness to disarm the audience of their usual expectations of a stand-up comedian and his performance. By dismantling the conventional norms of the situation, he contextually prepares the audience for a deeper, more introspective and emotionally focused comedy set than most of them are used to: "real talk," as it were. I may be wrong, but I think he's also recently started doing the old Zach Galifianakis thing of interviewing audience members on stage if the show isn't going the greatest. (I know Zach wasn't the first comedian to do it, but my mind's blanking right now on others.) I think if you listen to Marc's appearances on other podcasts, and the episodes of WTF where the guest is someone that know's Marc really well, a realization of just how aware he is of these tactics and methods starts to come through. Maybe I should stop writing forum posts while I'm finishing school projects on conversational analysis.
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Apr 9, 2011 01:38
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holy jesus do you expect us to read all o that? what are you writing a novel? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 9, 2011 01:42
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TJ Miller killed it on Doug Loves Movies this week. Think I may have to buy that two dollar live podcast or whatever he's hocking.
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Apr 9, 2011 01:57
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Gooch posted:holy jesus do you expect us to read all o that? what are you writing a novel?
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-Atom- posted:TJ Miller killed it on Doug Loves Movies this week. I think TJ is consistently the best guest. If only Doug could get him and PFT on the same ep.
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Apr 9, 2011 04:01
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I though the first half of this week's DLM was awful, but both of the games redeemed the episode. I thought nothing would top Simon Pegg guessing Home Alone so soon, but obviously I was wrong. I thought it was Ernest Goes To Jail myself for some reason.
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Apr 9, 2011 10:06
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Doug's gig plugs at the front of his podcast are getting longer and more annoying.
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Apr 9, 2011 11:38
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JMBosch posted:Holy christ wall of words. He's right..exhaustive but right which is why I love Maron so much. The guy is neurotic just like me and hell it makes ME feel better to listen to him be so raw. It just feels like gently caress if he can do it so can I. I know it's supposed to be the comedy thread but this just hit a nerve.
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Apr 9, 2011 14:15
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I'm Just going to mention the Grapes of Rad again.
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oneof27 posted:I'm Just going to mention the Grapes of Rad again. That's messed up.
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