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Man I really picked a good time to try to join the soft power side of our IR.
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Vilerat posted:We just received word here that if you are on leave status as of the start of the furlough you are automatically furloughed. I do not know how this translates to other agencies. Not AL though right? I'm pretty sure by law you can't take paid leave during a furlough.
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gently caress my life. State's website crashed my computer so hard, it's blue screening and refusing to start. Thank god I'm still under warranty and have my receipts.
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Apr 8, 2011 02:29
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My Mom was right. I'm essential.
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Apr 8, 2011 07:39
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Homie S posted:Not AL though right? I'm pretty sure by law you can't take paid leave during a furlough. Well if you were on any leave that was approved by vile's HR you are automatically furloughed. The same happened to me as I am on sick leave to take care of my wife. That was the problem for me. I still need to take leave for my wife but if I was essential and I can make a reason why on classnet, I would have to return as soon as possible.
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Homie S posted:Not AL though right? I'm pretty sure by law you can't take paid leave during a furlough. As of the beginning of the shutdown ALL LEAVE NO MATTER WHAT KIND IS CANCELLED. If you are sunning on a beach in Jamaica on vacation you must report to work on monday or you are in furlough status. If you are excepted you are in furlough status until you return in which case they can make a decision to move you to excepted from furlough. You are not authorized sick leave, annual leave, leave for the birth of your child, nothing. If you are excepted and you do not show up to work you are in furlough status and will not be paid, period.
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Slight veer from the discussion, but in case you are interested in DoD side. Military are just to report to work, but we won't be paid. Of course, expectation is very high that backpay will happen. I'm mid-career and have some savings so am not worried. But be prepared to see Private Snuffy's wife (pregnant with a toddler on her hip)in front of a news camera saying her husband is in Afghanistan and now she can't pay her rent and doesn't know what she's gonna do. Not trying to be unsympathic to my DoS brothers with that. But we all know what plays in the media. Hopefully it can be a driver to the overall process of getting a budget done.
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Just heard a deal was reached & there'll be no shutdown. Hooray for me getting to start in 2 weeks.
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1of7 posted:Just heard a deal was reached & there'll be no shutdown. Hooray for me getting to start in 2 weeks. A deal for 1 week. Don't get your hopes too high.
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Apr 9, 2011 11:50
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TCD posted:A deal for 1 week. Don't get your hopes too high. They agreed on a deal for the rest of the fiscal year, it just takes a few days to write it.
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.. going over these FSOA yahoo groups... for the IMS crew, is the FSOA the same one that regular FSO (generalists) go through? The letter I got seems to outline things differently (written exam based on areas of specialization, S.I., & Competency.) Doesn't say anything about Case Management, which seems to be included in generalist FSOA's - should I expect one of these?
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Skandiaavity posted:.. going over these FSOA yahoo groups... for the IMS crew, is the FSOA the same one that regular FSO (generalists) go through? The FSOA yahoo group is specifically for the "generalists," the Foreign Service Officers who pick one of the five career cones and what not. If you're going to be an IMS, which is a Foreign Service Specialist position, your examination will be entirely different. Apples and Oranges.
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Hammer of Loki posted:The FSOA yahoo group is specifically for the "generalists," the Foreign Service Officers who pick one of the five career cones and what not. Yeah, the IMS process has been pretty well covered in this thread.
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There's also a FSS yahoo group.
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Yeah, the FSS yahoo group seemed to say "nobody knows/can't say/NDA", but I just wanted clarification on whether the OA's were the same.. (thanks for that, by the way). Might want to add the FSS Yahoo group to the OP, too?
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Yeah they aren't. What's the link, I'll add it to the OP?
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you know what, let me consolidate all the advice from the thread on specialist/IMS (or IMTS) in a single post along with the yahoo link, make it easier. edit: while i'm working on compiling the advice, here's the yahoo link for those interested http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FSSCareers/ Skandiaavity fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Apr 12, 2011 |
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Diplomaticus posted:There's also a FSS yahoo group. No poo poo. Huh, aside from the 1 or 2 pointers I received here that's all I had on my process.
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Anyone here with first hand experience on receiving Veterans preference points while still in the military? Vilerat maybe? I plan to remain in the military while taking the FSOT, but my read of the regs leads me to believe that, if everything goes well and I make the Register, I would not get points as I will not have an honorable or general discharge. I am wondering if they accept military in good standing as essentially the same thing (since it stands to reason that I would obviously have to be discharged in order to accept the position), or is it an inflexible "no DD 214, no points, so sad". zzman fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Apr 13, 2011 |
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zzman posted:Anyone here with first hand experience on receiving Veterans preference points while still in the military? Vilerat maybe? Hmm, well the regs took me to the Foreign Service Act of 1980, which then took me to 5 USC 2108. And yeah, it doesn't look like you get to be a preference-eligible veteran until you are honorably discharged. If I were a betting man I'd have to say you would have to have that honorable discharge in your hands before you took the oral assessment, since that's when the points are added. Your argument about being in good standing and that you would be discharged anyway shows that you have courtroom skills, but there's a difference between being in good standing and honorable discharge records. Remember that when soldiers commit whatever atrocity (that will lead to a dishonorable discharge), they always do it while "in good standing." The intent of the law makes it pretty clear that the Congress didn't want soldiers jumping the gun on veteran's preference. That being said, calling a Diplomat in Residence (DIR) about this would be a good idea.
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Diplomaticus, I took your advice & went with Ballston. Not there yet, but from the location & based on the website for it I'm very pleased & pretty sure I made the right choice. Thanks!
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Just passed my OA's.. 5.5, waiting on medical/suitability 
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Skandiaavity posted:Just passed my OA's.. 5.5, waiting on medical/suitability Big congratulations. Were you the last in the room waiting for your results from the examiners?
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No, all the applicants were waiting. They called me in, then when I went back to pick up my stuff, nobody else was around. Maybe some other folks passed too, I have no idea.
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Skandiaavity posted:Just passed my OA's.. 5.5, waiting on medical/suitability Nice. Which cone again?
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Skandiaavity posted:Just passed my OA's.. 5.5, waiting on medical/suitability holy poo poo, congrats
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TCD posted:Nice. Which cone again? IMS 
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Skandiaavity posted:Just passed my OA's.. 5.5, waiting on medical/suitability Congratulations!
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Congrats! Im in bum gently caress west Virginia right now but goddamn is it pretty out here.
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Skandiaavity posted:IMS Oh, they changed it. When I went through it was on a 100 point scale. You could always tell who went through specialist vs generalist. Congrats!
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Hola, todos. I finally joined SA when I did a brief scan of this thread and noticed that there didn't seem to be much mention of the other US Foreign Services in here. State's cool and all, but there are other ways to be a diplomat, too! I'm an FSO with the other "big" sector of the Foreign Service-- the US Agency for International Development. I'm pretty new-- applied in fall of 08, joined a class in fall of 09, and made it to post last November. So, here I am in Eastern Europe, and happy to answer any questions anyone might have about the "other" Foreign Service. We have slightly different entry requirements (i.e., no formal written exam, but also it's almost impossible to get in without at least a Masters), slightly different language requirements (it's not common to get extensive language training beyond your initial tenure language, unless you go to a post that's language designated), and of course a very different bid list (we're only in capital cities, and at USAID, you're not going to get to follow that year in Iraq up with a stint in Madrid/London/Santiago/Sydney). Unfortunately, I can't speak to the remaining foreign services (Ag, Treasury, etc.), but I just thought I'd make this information available in case anyone's interested.
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pamchenko posted:at USAID, you're not going to get to follow that year in Iraq up with a stint in Madrid/London/Santiago/Sydney). Suckers! Seriously, though, good to have someone from AID around!
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Business of Ferrets posted:Suckers! quote:Seriously, though, good to have someone from AID around!
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Yay, good to have AID FSOs here. Now we just need someone to rep FCS and FAS, and we'll have all the principal foreign affairs agencies! (Does BBG count in that?)
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Also pamchenko if you want to write something up to go in the OP let me know.
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pamchenko posted:So, here I am in Eastern Europe, and happy to answer any questions anyone might have about the "other" Foreign Service. What background/skillset would someone applying to USAID want to have other than just a masters? Aaaand what exactly do you do?
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Welcome to the thread! (Seems we may know some of the same people!) some useful information you might want to consider adding for the OP: If any, what 'cones' are there for USAID? (economical? education? cultural?) A little info on the process? benefits/joys of being a USAID officer? any relations to the U.N.? Difference of being in DC / at post? just food for thought
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Diplomaticus posted:Also pamchenko if you want to write something up to go in the OP let me know. tismondo posted:Oh man, you've just opened the floodgates. Obviously, anything related to development would be useful. But I have to say, the range of backgrounds for new FSOs in the agency is very broad. There are a lot of RPCVs, as you would expect, and a lot of people who have worked for implementers in various parts of the world, or previously for AID as PSCs (basically, contractors). But there are also a lot of people with private sector backgrounds, legal backgrounds, education/teaching backgrounds, and on and on and on. Personally, I came in with a legal background-- I have a J.D. and a M.A. in International Politics. My concentration in both law and grad school was international law, sometimes in a development context (i.e., I wrote a lot about how countries' legal regimes changed as they prepared for EU accession) but not strictly so, and I did an internship at IFES for close to a year. But my straight work experience was corporate law practice. So, really, pretty much every background is represented in AID. With the caveat, of course, that AID went through a hiring boom recently and, like many other federal agencies, that is no longer true. It might be that a straight development background becomes more important, but I don't feel qualified to say. quote:Aaaand what exactly do you do? However, since it's my first year of my first tour, part of my training is rotating through different offices, so I spent 2.5 months in the Program Office when I got here, and I'm just wrapping up a 2.5 month rotation in the Democracy and Governance office (DG). I'll go back into the Program Office for a bit, then rotate again, lather rinse repeat until November, when I'll pretty much just stay in the Program Office permanently. pamchenko fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Apr 16, 2011 |
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For what it's worth, I'm know more disgruntled AID officers vs State. The bidding for summer 2012 was particularly a sore point.
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I've updated the OP significantly with some of my observations. Pamchenko, either or. You can PM it to me, or post it here, doesn't matter.
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