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I knew what a kill screen was but never really put it all together, that's probably the best episode title ever.
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Mar 29, 2011 20:59
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I just finished the series and holy hot drat! Vic you are one smug bastard. I loved it. I'm just sad that I didn't catch it when it was in its prime.
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Mar 30, 2011 03:35
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I like reading on tvtropes.org about shows that I watch and in the description for The Shield they have this, "the Shakespearian counterpart to the Dickensian The Wire." I know I sound like an idiot asking this, but what do they mean by that?
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Drewsky posted:I like reading on tvtropes.org about shows that I watch and in the description for The Shield they have this, "the Shakespearian counterpart to the Dickensian The Wire." I know I sound like an idiot asking this, but what do they mean by that? Well, the Dickensian part of The Wire is discussed literally in season 5, right? So much is about the failure of institution towards the underprivileged. It's a social critique as much as an entertaining show. The Shield is less about the message and more about the drama, specifically the struggle of a tragic hero. Vic's compelling, even likeable much of the time, but his flaws would, by definition of a classic Shakespearean tragedy, compel him into a sequence of bad decisions. Whether he has free will to break out or not is a massive spoiler, but the above should at least give you an idea of what tvtropes was saying.
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Drewsky posted:I like reading on tvtropes.org about shows that I watch and in the description for The Shield they have this, "the Shakespearian counterpart to the Dickensian The Wire." I know I sound like an idiot asking this, but what do they mean by that? In general Dickens wrote about the injustices of society, and how the lower class were mistreated, no matter what particular conflicts the characters in his novel had, the Ultimate enemy was the social structure in which they resided. In Shakespeare's tragedies the characters are self-defeating, no matter who they were in conflict with, it was some internal flaw or trait that did them in. Both were fatalistic in a sense but in different ways. This carries over to the shows very strongly. In The Wire, the status quo is an overarching all consuming thing which is the root of every injustice and hardship. The characters fight or subvert the various institutions to which they belong but end up failing, either destroyed or subverted themselves. In The Shield, the characters gently caress themselves up. A great example of this is Lem going out to help the crying kid in the end of Season 5. He didn't have to do that, he could've just stayed there and kept his head low until they could smuggle him to Mexico, but he went and helped that kid, because that's who Lem is. It's this difference between the shows that's the source of all the other differences. In The Wire, Baltimore, and by extension society is the subject, the characters are just our eyes into this world, tools by the writers. We may see them do things, but the society itself is the star of the show, so it takes a slow methodical approach here, to paint a large picture of the city. In the Shield, Farmington is a made up district, a mere backdrop in which our character drama takes place. We need to have action and stress so that we may observe how the characters behave under these conditions, and how they destroy themselves. edited, only 1 spoiler for The Shield so just spoiled that part. The Rooster fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Mar 30, 2011 |
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Mar 30, 2011 04:49
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Just finished Streaks and Tips...holy loving poo poo. e: Just finished Mum, Holy loving poo poo! rawdog pozfail fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Mar 31, 2011 |
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Mar 30, 2011 23:09
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Holy Calamity! posted:Just finished Streaks and Tips...holy loving poo poo. Haha, the Mum moment will show up in the previews for eternity now.
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Mar 31, 2011 20:10
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Wartime Consigliere posted:Haha, the Mum moment will show up in the previews for eternity now. I've never cringed harder at a TV show... Season 3 is really the "poo poo hits the fan" season compared to the first two. All our main characters are getting thrown curve balls left and right with no reprieve whatsoever. People who said the show picks up and gets better as it goes on were totally correct, the tension is ramped up 10x in season 3 and I can't wait to see where it goes from here. Got 3 episodes of season 3 left, going to marathon them now. e: Oh, season 3's longer than the others! Sweet, 5 episodes left then. Last episode ended with Aceveda gripping his pistol... oh god I can't wait 
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Mar 31, 2011 23:49
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Holy Calamity! posted:I've never cringed harder at a TV show... It only gets worse (which means better) from here.
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Apr 1, 2011 01:02
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Wartime Consigliere posted:It only gets worse (which means better) from here. This is what I was gonna say. It's on a constant up swing from S3 to the end.
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Im re-watching again, and I totally forgot about this scene in Season 6 ep 4 that I never quite understood Corrine tells them about the dream she has w/ Lem, and how Lem got angry when she cooked her burgers well-done, and Vic convinces Lem that he always liked his burger like that. Since I don't think the writers intended to include supernatural elements into the show, I'm assuming that this was Corrine's subconscious telling her what these guys all knew, that Lem wasn't originally like them, that he had to be convinced that he was, and eventually accepted it. But I'm curious what other people thought.
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Apr 3, 2011 21:18
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I don't think it was ever meant to be supernatural, just her subconscious kicking up some flags.
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Apr 3, 2011 22:01
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Gangringo posted:I don't think it was ever meant to be supernatural, just her subconscious kicking up some flags. yeah, I was being facetious when I said that.
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Apr 3, 2011 23:25
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Holy loving poo poo, I just started Season 2 and just watched the scene where Mackey beats the poo poo out of Armadillo with a law textbook and then fries his face on the stove and I have never been so viscerally excited and satisfied watching a TV show, I almost felt ashamed.
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Apr 5, 2011 02:24
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Pron on VHS posted:Holy loving poo poo, I just started Season 2 and just watched the scene where Mackey beats the poo poo out of Armadillo with a law textbook and then fries his face on the stove and I have never been so viscerally excited and satisfied watching a TV show, I almost felt ashamed. The good news- you have 5 more seasons. The bad news- you have only 5 more seasons.
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Apr 5, 2011 02:29
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I thought Jack Bauer was a badass, then I was introduced to Vic loving Mackey.
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He's not so much a hero as a well-developed complex villain.
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Apr 8, 2011 17:28
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I like how Chiklis put it, he's both the protagonist and antagonist of the show.
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Apr 8, 2011 21:52
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http://www.governmentattic.org/2docs/FCC_ComplaintsTheShield_2004-2008.pdf FCC Complaints about The Shield. Shawn Ryan says pages 19 and 35 are his favorite. 19 is pretty funny. I haven't gotten to 35 yet.
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Apr 8, 2011 22:07
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Wartime Consigliere posted:http://www.governmentattic.org/2docs/FCC_ComplaintsTheShield_2004-2008.pdf 19 instantly made me think of,".......he made you SUUUUUCCCKKKKKKKK!?!?" and I burst out laughing. Jerusalem fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Apr 8, 2011 |
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Apr 8, 2011 22:23
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Holy Calamity! posted:I thought Jack Bauer was a badass, then I was introduced to Vic loving Mackey. THIS. Vic is the ultimate bad rear end, it's so weird to see the actor (Michael Chiklis) in his new superhero-family show. Such a contrast in character it's crazy, shows how good an actor he is!
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Apr 8, 2011 22:32
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Lurchibles posted:Vic is the ultimate bad rear end, it's so weird to see the actor (Michael Chiklis) in his new superhero-family show. Such a contrast in character it's crazy, shows how good an actor he is! Hell, you should go back and watch him in The Commish, having only been familiar with him in that, it was a total mindfuck to see him in The Shield.
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Apr 8, 2011 22:34
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I thought the FCC didn't control cable? Is that why none of these went anywhere?
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Apr 8, 2011 22:34
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User-Friendly posted:I thought the FCC didn't control cable? They don't, some people don't realize that and think they have the right to complain.
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Apr 8, 2011 22:36
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Jerusalem posted:Fishbulb is a rad guy Thanks pal FishBulb fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Apr 8, 2011 |
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Apr 8, 2011 22:45
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SneakySneaks posted:They don't, some people don't realize that and think they have the right to complain. I love the one that basically lays out some crazy-rear end,"You will do this and this and this immediately and if you do not I'm suing on behalf of NBC, ABC etc to get their Superbowl fine refunded I'm in control here buddy the ball is in my court you gotta play by my rules now  " ranting.
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Page 19:quote:To Wbom It May Concern: Page 35: quote:POLICE SERIES INCLUDING PROFANE, INDECENT WORDS SUCH AS poo poo. son-of-a-bitch, GODDAMMIT,rear end in a top hat, bitch, oval office just a few examples in the 2 episodes I made myself watch of course, that doesn't include themes of "it's ok. to be violent, crooked, or even murders" if it solves a case or even for the sake of revenge!!!!!! Bhaal fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Apr 8, 2011 |
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Apr 8, 2011 22:58
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FishBulb posted:No loving spoilers I fixed mine, you fix yours!
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Apr 8, 2011 23:01
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Jerusalem posted:I fixed mine, you fix yours! I don't know what you're talking about! I did read the page 19 entry figuring it would be about exactly the scene it was about. I have no idea how i knew, I just knew. No farther though because I'm not done with season 3 yet.
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Apr 8, 2011 23:03
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FishBulb posted:I don't know what you're talking about! Nooooo, now everybody knows the season 3 spoiler that Fishbulb turns out to be a rad guy!  But seriously, sorry for the spoiler.
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Apr 8, 2011 23:14
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Wartime Consigliere posted:http://www.governmentattic.org/2docs/FCC_ComplaintsTheShield_2004-2008.pdf Ha Ha I guess someone missed one of the major themes of the show. quote:that doesn't include themes of "it's ok. to be
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Apr 9, 2011 00:12
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People never cease to amaze me. "I'm not a prude..." pfft, think again rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 9, 2011 00:14
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Conquieftador posted:People never cease to amaze me. "I'm not a prude..." pfft, think again rear end in a top hat. I once jaywalked. Fuckin listen to me FCC 
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Apr 9, 2011 00:18
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The page 19 one is hilarious to me to think about just how unfortunate this poor sheltered person would have to be to randomly be flicking channels and just happen upon that paticular scene out of every channel on television and every episode of the show. Of course I understand that's not how it would have happened at all but it's amusing for me to pretend it was.
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Apr 9, 2011 00:51
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Smorgasbord posted:The page 19 one is hilarious to me to think about just how unfortunate this poor sheltered person would have to be to randomly be flicking channels and just happen upon that paticular scene out of every channel on television and every episode of the show. Of course I understand that's not how it would have happened at all but it's amusing for me to pretend it was. It was probably a Julian-like closeted homosexual that saw it and was beyond infuriated.
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Apr 9, 2011 01:31
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Maybe a Spartacus-like disclaimer could have scared them off so they wouldn't have to think about naughty words or sucking dicks.
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Jerusalem posted:Hell, you should go back and watch him in The Commish, having only been familiar with him in that, it was a total mindfuck to see him in The Shield. What was even more bizarre was catching an episode of Seinfeld where Chiklis had a guest spot. He and Seinfeld were in an argument about car rides or airports or something in Jerry's apartment, and I kept expecting Jerry to end up being dangled out the window by his ankles screaming for mercy.
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Ratatozsk posted:What was even more bizarre was catching an episode of Seinfeld where Chiklis had a guest spot. He and Seinfeld were in an argument about car rides or airports or something in Jerry's apartment, and I kept expecting Jerry to end up being dangled out the window by his ankles screaming for mercy. Yeah, Jerry and Elaine get stuck at his house after a party and Jerry tells him if he needs anything to give him a call. It's really weird for me to see that episode after watching The Shield.
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Dead Snoopy posted:Honestly, for all The Shield fans who haven't tried Breaking Bad, the first season is some of the darkest poo poo I've ever watched. I honestly didn't know if I would continue. Then, in the second season, there were moments of tension that are worthy of The Shield. I mean, it had me yelling at my tv.
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