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A little while ago I found an old article about the then upcoming fight between Rich Franklin and Wandy. It said that Rich had been training with Anderson Silva. It then went on to suggest a "growing rivalry" between Andy and Wandy, I was wondering what, if anything, came of that, or if it was just an angle for the article to take.
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There was a little beef between them when Wanderlei dropped to middleweight, as Anderson interpreted it as Wandy trying to make a title run (and I guess Chute Box guys find it disrespectful if someone who they've trained with wants to fight them). Words were said between the two and I guess Anderson did a camp with Franklin. Later on Anderson and Wanderlei made up over dinner (I think Wanderlei realized he was in the downslope of his career and wasn't going to be challenging for any titles).
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Apr 9, 2011 06:31
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Snowman_McK posted:A little while ago I found an old article about the then upcoming fight between Rich Franklin and Wandy. It said that Rich had been training with Anderson Silva. It then went on to suggest a "growing rivalry" between Andy and Wandy, I was wondering what, if anything, came of that, or if it was just an angle for the article to take. Andy and Wandy sounds like an adorable kids show.
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Apr 9, 2011 07:40
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Pneub posted:Andy and Wandy sounds like an adorable kids show. Andy can teach kids to dance and Wandy can teach them to count (through punching). Make it happen PBS.
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Apr 9, 2011 11:27
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A Pale Horse posted:Andy can teach kids to dance and Wandy can teach them to count (through punching). Make it happen PBS. The kids would sure be familiar with the numbers 3 and 4.
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Apr 9, 2011 20:42
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A Pale Horse posted:Andy can teach kids to dance and Wandy can teach them to count (through punching). Make it happen PBS. Sorry, PBS is going away because we need to trim federal spending. Also we need to massively expand federal spending by blowing up even more of the Middle East/North Africa
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Apr 9, 2011 22:30
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Lost For Words posted:Sorry, PBS is going away because we need to trim federal spending. Also we need to massively expand federal spending by blowing up even more of the Middle East/North Africa Just give Andy and Wandy a box o' grenades and have them go on a magical adventure.
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Apr 9, 2011 22:37
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I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about MMA, and the following question came up: How would the current Brock Lesnar have fared in golden-age Pride? Were there any wrestlers on his level to compare (Maybe Barnett)? Did he have the completeness of game needed to beat prime Fedor and Minotauro? Would the dream match of Lesnar vs Sapp turn into a gentleman's agreement not to hit in the face?
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Apr 11, 2011 23:42
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The answer to all of those is No.
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Apr 11, 2011 23:48
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projecthalaxy posted:I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about MMA, and the following question came up: tom erikson prime fedor is not very different from now fedor and a huge wrestler training with a super bjj god would have hosed any iteration of fedor up. lesnar sapp is not a dream match. that is all
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Apr 12, 2011 00:38
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projecthalaxy posted:Would the dream match of Lesnar vs Sapp turn into a gentleman's agreement not to hit in the face? Keep in mind, Bob Sapp was not ALWAYS a lamentable dust man. See Bojansky vs Sapp. Its seriously like 2 different people.
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Apr 12, 2011 01:54
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The match where he whined and asked Kakuda to let him quit?
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Bundt Cake posted:lesnar sapp is not a dream match you don't speak for all of us in this regard
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Apr 12, 2011 18:11
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Frank Murrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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projecthalaxy posted:I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about MMA, and the following question came up: Brock Lesnar would have spent his time facing tiny Japanese men and maybe having one fight a year against a legitimate contender unless there was a tournament. If he did enter a tournament, he would probably win, especially since PRIDE didn't have a upper weight limit or steroid testing.
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Apr 14, 2011 19:31
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projecthalaxy posted:I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about MMA, and the following question came up: brock would have died in the ring at sergei's hands.
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Brock vs. a non-broken Nog would have been interesting but Lesnar would have been tough to stop unless you were the best MMA wrestler ever. That's right, Mark Coleman would have re-gained his HW crown.
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Apr 14, 2011 20:23
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Mark Coleman is not the best MMA wrestler ever and he's a roidraging dickhole.
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you misspelled worlds greatest dad of ever
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Apr 14, 2011 21:56
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henkman posted:Mark Coleman is not the best MMA wrestler ever and he's a roidraging dickhole. name one better
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henkman posted:Mark Coleman is not the best MMA wrestler ever Who is? Mark Kerr? Chael Sonnen? I'm actually asking.
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Apr 14, 2011 22:14
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Bundt Cake posted:name one better Koscheck GSP Fitch Jon Jones Sonnen
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Apr 14, 2011 22:22
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henkman posted:Koscheck coleman outwrestled jones weeks ago dude and you have to be loving kidding about fitch, who got outwrestled by BJ
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Apr 14, 2011 22:30
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lol fitch nice troll (name cain next time)
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Bundt Cake posted:coleman outwrestled jones weeks ago dude and you have to be loving kidding about fitch, who got outwrestled by BJ Get rid of those 2 (if you want to count those BS reasons) you still have 3 better wrestlers. Or is that not enough?
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Apr 14, 2011 22:33
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henkman posted:Get rid of those 2 (if you want to count those BS reasons) you still have 3 better wrestlers. Or is that not enough? how is fitch getting outwrestled by a smaller guy (which would never happen to coleman) or coleman outwrestling jones "bs"? additionally the other three guys are not as good at wrestling as coleman
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Apr 14, 2011 22:44
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1. BJ came out with a gameplan Fitch didn't see coming and didn't train for so it's okay for him to get outwrestled for the first bit of the fight. 2. Jones is a nice young Christian boy who respects the elderly, and wanted Coleman to feel relevant one last time before he dies. And yes Kos, GSP, and Sonnen are better wrestlers. How are they not?
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Apr 14, 2011 22:51
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Everyone on the list is either a champion or a contender in 2011, which implies a bias; the things Sonnen and GSP are doing now is comparable to what Mark Coleman did in his prime. What also implies a bias: geriatric jokes and calling him a dickhole.
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Apr 14, 2011 23:02
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Except they're not? Who was the best wrestler mark coleman has fought against and won? Dan Severn? GSP and any of the other guys at the top of WW have been facing great wrestlers forever. Of course Mark can look good wrestling all the Kickboxers in Pride. The moment he faced a good wrestler he got the poo poo choked out of him. Got off his dick.
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Apr 14, 2011 23:23
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Whether or not Coleman spent more skill points on Wrestling than any other fighter is less relevant than whether or not he was able to leverage his wrestling talents into consistent success against a series of opponents with different skillsets (he didn't). I'm a Coleman fan, but come on.
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Apr 14, 2011 23:34
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None of those fighters would of won the 2000 Grand Prix so Coleman is better
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Apr 14, 2011 23:58
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henkman posted:Mark Coleman is not the best MMA wrestler ever and he's a roidraging dickhole. Dickhole must mean "incredibly nice man."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RPSwXs3Nbk http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/OhEoBD4Y-rs/ Mark Coleman: Nice Man (also he's ugly)
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henkman posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oCnqy8Klaw you're an idiot
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Apr 15, 2011 00:51
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The first 2 maybe understandable. Him breaking Shogun's arm and then starting a riot? Piece of poo poo.
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GSP trains his wrestling constantly and still had a hard time wrestling Koscheck even though he was jabbing his face off. Coleman Did Not Train for about ten years and still was incapable of not completing a takedown. The only force more powerful than Coleman's wrestling is Sean Tompkins' monumental levels of incompetence.
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Maybe that's because Koscheck is also a great wrestler? Also again I ask: who is the best wrestler Coleman fought AND beat?
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henkman posted:Maybe that's because Koscheck is also a great wrestler? Also again I ask: who is the best wrestler Coleman fought AND beat? As a two time NWA champion, Dan Severn is a far better wrestler than Josh Koscheck.
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Apr 15, 2011 01:14
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The original question was about wrestling in an MMA context, hence the term "MMA Wrestler". Josh is better.
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Nogueira is a saint and even he lost his temper on TUF. I have no idea what you want from the man.henkman posted:Maybe that's because Koscheck is also a great wrestler? Also again I ask: who is the best wrestler Coleman fought AND beat? Most of Koscheck's career has been spent outwrestling kickboxers. Also someone will have posted Roidtech by the time I hit submit
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