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I'm deciding between Columbia and Chicago and the deadline to accept for Chicago is tomorrow. I still haven't received financial aid information from Columbia. Take the guaranteed money from Chicago? Give it up for a chance of money at CLS?
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Apr 15, 2011 01:22
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Apr 15, 2011 01:33
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Stop posted:Did you ask Chicago for an extension Yes, but they have not responded to my email. TLS predicts a resounding no. I am not holding out hope.
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Apr 15, 2011 02:30
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GamingHyena posted:Worse yet, if he does have to take the February bar potential employers will automatically assume he failed the July bar. Of course, he could always be honest and explain that he missed the July bar deadline but then he'll look incompetent. He should sign up for another state's bar. Pass that one. There are a number that can sign up until April 30. That gives you an excuse that doesn't make you look like your hosed up or failed. Stop posted:So if I decide to explore both prosecution and PD in law school, I'll get penalized for it when I'm trying to find jobs in those fields?
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Apr 15, 2011 03:04
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euphronius posted:I think it would be cool to talk because small town and rural law is completely different than the T14 rat race* and big law experience. Yeah, I'm curious about it too. I know that my area is flooded with lawyers but I don't really know what day-to-day practice is like. I don't think I'd ever be happy in a very small town, but Harrisburg-sized markets hold a lot of appeal for me.
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Apr 15, 2011 03:13
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Stop posted:So if I decide to explore both prosecution and PD in law school, I'll get penalized for it when I'm trying to find jobs in those fields? On the flip side, I firmly believe that it's only when you've worked both sides that you can truly gain a full understanding of the system, its positives and negatives, and can avoid common pitfalls and harmful modes of thinking.
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Apr 15, 2011 05:05
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Abugadu posted:On the flip side, I firmly believe that it's only when you've worked both sides that you can truly gain a full understanding of the system, its positives and negatives, and can avoid common pitfalls and harmful modes of thinking. As I've done both I completely agree. Also, I think this is why offices tend not to hire people who've done both, but some people call my cynical.
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Apr 15, 2011 05:14
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Stop fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Feb 15, 2012 |
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Apr 15, 2011 09:23
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nm posted:He should sign up for another state's bar. Pass that one. *thinking like a lawyer*
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Apr 15, 2011 11:19
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Stop posted:I can definitely see the logic behind that and I think it would help me clear up a lot of lingering doubts I have towards either job. I think it's fine. poo poo, most law grads don't even include law school on their resume anymore if they're trying to get a non-law job.
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Apr 15, 2011 11:53
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Last time I am going to ask this before I send in my deposit. 1/2 tuition at Chicago 1/3 tuition at NYU 1/6 tuition at Columbia means I would be making a terrible decision to not choose Chicago?
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Apr 15, 2011 15:22
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How much is the deposit and what are the consequences beyond losing it if you pull out of Chicago after accepting?
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Apr 15, 2011 15:30
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diospadre posted:How much is the deposit and what are the consequences beyond losing it if you pull out of Chicago after accepting? I think it's $500 but the problem is that I would have to withdraw from the other schools that I've been admitted to. (i.e. not Harvard or Stanford (I would have no problem throwing away the $500 if they came through but it looks very unlikely.))
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Apr 15, 2011 15:31
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Ah that's rough. Anyway I would go with Chicago since Chicago rules.
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Apr 15, 2011 15:37
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nm posted:He should sign up for another state's bar. Pass that one.
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Apr 15, 2011 15:55
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Trash Can Man posted:Last time I am going to ask this before I send in my deposit. You should be confident that Chicago is the right choice here. All of these schools are going to be roughly equivalent placement-wise. Having half the debt coming out of one of them is going to make an enormous difference in your financial situation once you start working, assuming you go into some kind of private practice.
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Apr 15, 2011 16:03
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The difference in cost is probably even more significant when you take into account living expenses.
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Apr 15, 2011 16:19
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Trash Can Man posted:Last time I am going to ask this before I send in my deposit. Yeah, I'm at Columbia and like it here, but as long as you're fine living in Chicago I'd go with that.
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Apr 15, 2011 16:25
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Stop posting variants of "Should I pay a shitload more money to live in THE CITY?" please
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Apr 15, 2011 16:31
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ragle posted:Stop posting variants of "Should I pay a shitload more money to live in THE CITY?" please gently caress you and your bad attitude. The first two variants got responded to with "go to cooley." I've been reading these megathreads since before there were no jobs, I should get to bug people with my trivial CCN bullshit a few times.
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Apr 15, 2011 16:54
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I vote Chicago.
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Apr 15, 2011 16:55
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You'd save about $40,000 over three years to choose Chicago over NYU. I don't think you've posted much about your long-term career goals, but at NYU or Chicago, it might not matter all that much. If you have no particular attachment to either school or city, I'd have no trouble picking Chicago.
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Apr 15, 2011 17:01
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qwertyman posted:You'd save about $40,000 over three years to choose Chicago over NYU. I don't think you've posted much about your long-term career goals, but at NYU or Chicago, it might not matter all that much. If you have no particular attachment to either school or city, I'd have no trouble picking Chicago. That seems to be the unanimous and objective response the only thing giving me pause is immediate family in the NYC area. Then again NYC will be there in three years, and 40k + 75k is a looot of money so I'll probably choose Chicago.
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Apr 15, 2011 17:03
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Thanks much for the advice all. We'll go ahead and submit the waiver request + second application (may as well) and investigate the other options out there.
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Apr 15, 2011 18:11
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MechaFrogzilla posted:Yeah, I'm at Columbia and like it here liar liar pants on fire.
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Apr 15, 2011 18:16
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Red Bean Juice posted:Is anybody going to the Tenenbaum oral argument before the First Circuit Monday? Seems like it'd be a good way to get some nerdlaw cred in. RBJ, please email my username at Lawyerist.com. I've got a proposition (non-sexy) for you.
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Apr 15, 2011 18:32
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Trash Can Man posted:immediate family in the NYC area. you know what you can buy with 40K? plane tickets
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Apr 15, 2011 18:47
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Feces Starship posted:you know what you can buy with 40K? plane tickets Hell, $40k will likely get you an old lovely used plane.
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Apr 15, 2011 18:52
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samglover posted:proposition (non-sexy) It's never sexy, is it  (check your e-mail)
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Apr 15, 2011 19:02
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nm posted:Hell, $40k will likely get you an old lovely used plane. Alright, thanks for your help everyone. I am going to Chicago and buying a plane!
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Apr 15, 2011 19:41
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Trash Can Man posted:Alright, thanks for your help everyone. I am going to Chicago and buying a plane! Better take Aviation Law, it's a super-important class for both bar prep and private practice. I hear that the ABA is recommending that Aviation Law and Space Law both become required 1L classes.
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Apr 15, 2011 19:44
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entris posted:Better take Aviation Law, it's a super-important class for both bar prep and private practice. I hear that the ABA is recommending that Aviation Law and Space Law both become required 1L classes. Can you get a Space Law job outside of HYS? If so I am down.
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Apr 15, 2011 19:51
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Trash Can Man posted:Can you get a Space Law job outside of HYS? If so I am down. Of course. It's a competitive area, but it's not too exclusive - compared to working in a very accessible field like international criminal law, it's only a little harder to break into. You aren't going to be making the big bucks in a Space Law practice, you'll be looking at a lot less money, at least as an associate, probably something around 80k or so. That's pretty respectable for public interest work anyway.
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Apr 15, 2011 20:15
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In France with EADS headquarters there are a few "space" law jobs. Its mostly contracts for sattelite stuff.
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Apr 15, 2011 20:16
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entris posted:Of course. It's a competitive area, but it's not too exclusive - compared to working in a very accessible field like international criminal law, it's only a little harder to break into. You aren't going to be making the big bucks in a Space Law practice, you'll be looking at a lot less money, at least as an associate, probably something around 80k or so. That's pretty respectable for public interest work anyway.
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Apr 15, 2011 21:20
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nm posted:What about space criminal defense work? The biggest problem with that area of practice is, surprise surprise, the clients. They're poor, they're unreliable, and a lot of them are oxygen intolerant, which means you will be holding client meetings at their location, which is usually a space ghetto with space drug dealers and space pimps all over the place (hold on to your wallet). Space criminal defense is just another ShitLaw area of practice like landlord-tenant and torts, basically, but like other areas of ShitLaw, you still gotta know it for the bar exam. I think the biggest problem with Space Law courses in law school is that none of the professors have really practiced in the field - they all approach it in theoretical terms, usually slanted by their liberal bias. entris fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 15, 2011 |
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Apr 15, 2011 21:25
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entris posted:The biggest problem with that area of practice is, surprise surprise, the clients. They're poor, they're unreliable, and a lot of them are oxygen intolerant, which means you will be holding client meetings at their location, which is usually a space ghetto with space drug dealers and space pimps all over the place (hold on to your wallet). Space criminal defense is just another ShitLaw area of practice like landlord-tenant and torts, basically, but like other areas of ShitLaw, you still gotta know it for the bar exam. The exchange rate sucks, too. The dollar is vatiable against the Intergalactic Monetary Unit, so after you take the case to trial, and do all of the math, you find out that your retainer was only $0.75.
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Apr 15, 2011 23:04
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Solomon Grundy posted:The exchange rate sucks, too. The dollar is vatiable against the Intergalactic Monetary Unit, so after you take the case to trial, and do all of the math, you find out that your retainer was only $0.75.
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Apr 15, 2011 23:13
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Looking for some advice about LSAT timing. About me: -Took the LSAT last October, made a 170 without a crazy amount of studying. The last ~3 practice LSATs I took before the real one averaged out to about a 171. -Graduate this May, will be doing Americorps for a year. -3.5 UGPA, 3.75 if you discount my freshmen year GPA when I was pre-med (I plan on writing an eloquent addendum on my application, hopefully they care). -I'm not URM. I want to get my LSAT higher, especially since my GPA isn't very pretty and I plan on some intense studying starting in June. I'm pretty confident that with this preparation, I can get that score to at least a 173 and hopefully closer to ~175. So my question is, October or December test date? I ask because I'm not too sure how the schools I'm looking at (T14 + UCLA) factor in a retake in terms of admissions and money.
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Apr 16, 2011 00:11
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