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There's not many ways to poo poo up a scene where the Big Bad Wolf tells the Adversary, "You're bigger than us, stronger than us, but if you come into our world we will destroy everything you personally love." Willingham really hosed that scene up.
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Cut for brevity. Ugh.
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so... does this mean that Bigby will now start keeping The Adversary's people in conditions of horrible apartheid and run magic bulldozers through their homes?
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Lamuella posted:so... does this mean that Bigby will now start keeping The Adversary's people in conditions of horrible apartheid and run magic bulldozers through their homes? Fabletown will also be getting billions of dollars from the US every year.
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Apr 6, 2011 14:18
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Witters posted:Cut for brevity. "We're Israel, and you're Palestine! Oh, and we can hit you anywhere like a terrorist bomber." "But wouldn't that make you Palestine, and ruin your analogy?" "I..um...SHUT UP!" Edit: Oh, thanks for recommending The Unwritten. It's a drat fun series. I even picked up Sweet Tooth because of you awesome people. 
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:"We're Israel, and you're Palestine! Oh, and we can hit you anywhere like a terrorist bomber." Wow.... time to stop buying the Fables hardcovers and spend my money on good books. I'll devote some $ towards Unwritten. Thanks for the heads up all!
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Apr 8, 2011 11:36
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Scalped, Unwritten and Sweet Tooth are the best books from Vertigo right now, in that order.
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Apr 8, 2011 19:43
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wildlele posted:Wow.... time to stop buying the Fables hardcovers and spend my money on good books. I'll devote some $ towards Unwritten. Thanks for the heads up all! Yeah, Fables took a turn for the worse lately. Jack of Fables started off well and degraded after the Great Fables Crossover. In fact, the Great Fables Crossover in general was so bad it damaged both series. Jack of Fables ended terribly, and I expect Fables will as well unless the quality improves. And Willingham realizes no one wants to hear his conservative political views.
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Apr 9, 2011 01:06
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Mister Roboto posted:Yeah, Fables took a turn for the worse lately. Jack of Fables started off well and degraded after the Great Fables Crossover. In fact, the Great Fables Crossover in general was so bad it damaged both series. Willingham needs to learn a lesson that a lot of talented people with very strong views learned the hard way: no piece of art is made in a political vacuum, but you don't have to be aware of that politics to enjoy the work because you damage both the work and your views if not handled with the figleaf of impartiality. In other words, I like what he does but he needs to keep doing it and leave his politics at home because they're not helping.
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Good piece on the Scalped panel at WC -> http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=31768
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Apr 9, 2011 11:55
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I just reread the first trade of Unwritten after getting the new one, did anyone else notice Callendar is in the first issue at the convention, as sort of a bitter author who is jealous of Tom Taylor's popularity? Did I completely miss something about how he became the leader of a shadowy cabal? Also, Scalped is so goddamn good. Goddamn. It hits all the right badass notes and all the right emotional notes at the same time.
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Awesome! posted:Scalped, Unwritten and Sweet Tooth are the best books from Vertigo right now, in that order. I agree with that but I'd replace Unwritten with American Vampire and recommend everyone go buy the complete Daytripper trade by Gabriel Ba & Fabio Moon. I know vampires are approaching zombie levels of played out and beyond in the cultural zeitgeist but I like Snyder's spin on it and the first arc co-written by Stephen King is great. Plus Rafael Albuquerque's art is stellar.
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I just read the first TPB of Lucifer and thought it was fantastic. Does it stay as strong as this through the whole run?
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pouge posted:I just read the first TPB of Lucifer and thought it was fantastic. Does it stay as strong as this through the whole run? It's been a while since i last read it but i feel pretty confident in saying it only gets better from there.
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pouge posted:I just read the first TPB of Lucifer and thought it was fantastic. Does it stay as strong as this through the whole run? The first TPB of Lucifer is arguably the weakest. You're in for a hell of a read.
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blue.eyed.ash posted:The first TPB of Lucifer is arguably the weakest. You're in for a hell of a read. 
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blue.eyed.ash posted:The first TPB of Lucifer is arguably the weakest. Pretty much. I was't all that impressed by the first tpb but the second was really great.
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Apr 12, 2011 09:23
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Keep in mind as you read the first Lucifer trade that Mike Carey's best work is unwritten at that point in time.
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blue.eyed.ash posted:Keep in mind as you read the first Lucifer trade that Mike Carey's best work is unwritten at that point in time. Punster.
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pouge posted:I just read the first TPB of Lucifer and thought it was fantastic. Does it stay as strong as this through the whole run? I found my affection for the series dipping on the non-Lucifer centric issues, but otherwise it did just keep getting better, with my favorite single issue of the series being the final one. edit: poo poo, that needed a pun in it somewhere
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I have to imagine someone is shopping Scalped around to AMC and the like. It's too loving good.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I have to imagine someone is shopping Scalped around to AMC and the like. It's too loving good. Yeah, and people really do love undercover stories. The format of the comic book and it's pacing seems like it's easily translatable to television. I hope it happens and even if it doesn't at least we have the comic.
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Recently, Aaron talked about working on the script for a Scalped pilot, but it wasn't picked up as of yet. He was excited about it, and he was hoping he could have a role similar to Kirkman with The Walking Dead.
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Witters posted:Mike Carey's urban-magician Hellblazer run is probably my 2nd favorite after Delano's; Ennis comes a close 3rd. Even though I prefer the down-and-out, working-class, inner-dialogue Constantine, Carey's stories were very interesting and well-crafted. He does a phenomenal job tying up all the different storylines from his arc into a rather satisfying conclusion. There was a bit of intrigue and suspense that I felt was lost during Azzarello's run. "Rather satisfying" is putting it mildly. The end of Carey's run is quite possibly the best way to end the story of John Constantine, to the point where I can't imagine the hypothetical last issue doing any better. The "Don't you loving believe it." scene is just the perfect final note: His friends and family have been hurt, he's deliberately been a bastard to the last few people that respected him, and he walks away with nothing in the world but regrets and a guilty conscience. Goddammit that's a great issue.
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Minor nitpick, but does anyone else think that maybe Aaron is overdoing the part where he has a couple having a conversation where they're thinking the opposite of what they're saying? It doesn't really bother me that much, but I feel like it takes something away from the first time he used it as a device in the arc about the gambler.
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Unwritten's latest Mr Bun (Pauly!) issue was really good but if you tried to use it as a jumping-on point into the series you'd be fuckered.
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I just got/read the latest Fables trade, Rose Red. Man this series has really declined, these last two trades haven't even been complete story arcs. I know it's an ongoing series with no definite end but come on. Buckingham's art is still great at least. That said, Vertigo is the poo poo. I agree that Scalped would make a great TV series. I feel like a lot of writers pull the same crap with John Constantine that they do with Batman, they feel the need to endlessly recite the same roots of the character bullshit (My parents were killed by a criminal so I must avenge them!/Despite my good intentions I'm damned and will drag down or gently caress over my friends and anyone else close to me!).
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null posted:I just got/read the latest Fables trade, Rose Red. Man this series has really declined, these last two trades haven't even been complete story arcs. I know it's an ongoing series with no definite end but come on. Buckingham's art is still great at least. What was wrong with Rose Red?
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SkellingTon Loc posted:Minor nitpick, but does anyone else think that maybe Aaron is overdoing the part where he has a couple having a conversation where they're thinking the opposite of what they're saying? If you are talking about the guy and his sick wife that is one of the best issues of the series. He perfectly nailed a couple that has been married for a long, long time, is still in love and just really, truly, suffering.
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^burtle posted:If you are talking about the guy and his sick wife that is one of the best issues of the series. He perfectly nailed a couple that has been married for a long, long time, is still in love and just really, truly, suffering. I think he's referring to when Dash & Carol are talking when he sobers up and she finds out she's pregnant and has the abortion
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This might belong more in derailed, but since Gaiman is pretty much synonymous with Vertigo in the comics world, I figured it would be okay to put it here too: American Gods is getting adapted for an HBO series.
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I wouldn't get too excited about that, the same sort of thing has been announced and cancelled like 15 times for Sandman, it's literally a running joke at The Onion's AV club.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I wouldn't get too excited about that, the same sort of thing has been announced and cancelled like 15 times for Sandman, it's literally a running joke at The Onion's AV club. at least with Game of Thrones, HBO has finally demonstrated they're willing to break away from the modern/historical drama thing and try something a bit out there. Though I guess Carnivale was one of those, and that got cancelled 3 seasons early
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Kaleidoscope posted:I think he's referring to when Dash & Carol are talking when he sobers up and she finds out she's pregnant and has the abortion Yeah, it felt kind of odd since previously their relationship has been a show, don't tell kind of a thing.
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Just finished the 3rd trade of Fables and I am loving every bit of this series. Kinda bummed out that it takes a decline in quality later on. I'm definitely going to be picking up Scalped on all of your recommendations. Is their a particular or preferred order to reading Fables and Jack of Fables? Sorry if this has already been asked, but I didn't want to wade through 13 pages.
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Borrego posted:Is their a particular or preferred order to reading Fables and Jack of Fables? There's hardly much overlap between the two series until much later when there's a crossover and it will be very obvious when it happens. Just keep reading Fables until Jack leaves, then read both however you want until the obvious crossover when you may want to be up to date on both series.
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Awesome thanks!
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So after seeing it built up so much, I was kind of underwhelmed by Daytripper. To me, Bras is a complete non character. He has no flaws, no failings at all. It becomes comical at the midway point when he is leaving notes all over his house for his wife to find that talk about how much he loves and cherishes their relationship. The entire book is as saccharine as a goddamn hallmark original picture. Part of this I can chalk up to the obituary theme, where maybe we are only seeing the positives, but the end result for me is that I can't feel anything for this character. That in turn starts to make the hook at the end of each issue feel like a gimmick, and eventually it just feels like ham fisted emotional manipulation. I understand in terms of story and characterization the book is going for subtle, but it doesn't feel subtle, it feels unstated. The art is lovely though, and I think that is the only reason I saw it through. If this was a movie or a straight novel I wouldn't have finished it. Maybe that is a little harsh, because there were some pretty neat things in it, but I think, for me, it's a case where the whole isn't as good as the sum of the parts.
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