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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm still not convinced that at least 3/4 of the contributes on Conservapedia aren't trolls. Conservapedia is like taking Poe's Law and blowing it wayyyyyy out of its original bounds.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:RationalWiki says he was an engineer for a while: "He went to Princeton University (1981), graduating with a B.S.E. cum laude in Electrical Engineering, and worked as a device physicist for Intel, an electrical engineer at the applied physics laboratory of Johns Hopkins University,[9] and finally at Bell Labs.[10]" Perhaps he kept his strange physics views to himself at this time. Man, that must have been a pretty tricky career to have while believing that complex numbers are some kind of liberal plot. I think looking for a single incident or epiphany that sent Andy into right-wing politics isn't worthwhile; his mother is Phyllis Schlafly for god's sake.
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Thenipwax posted:The fact that "liberal" is often preceded by "bleeding-heart" shows that conservatives try to use compassion and caring as negative character traits. Their mentality is seriously "gently caress everybody else except me and people exactly like me". It's funny because they'll say "gently caress you, got mine" and then turn around and talk about how liberals are selfish little brats, and conservatives are all about caring for people and taking care of their family, community, nation, etc.
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Oh my god how do you become an electrical engineer and not "believe" in imaginary numbers, that is so loving awesomeShimrra Jamaane posted:I'm still not convinced that at least 3/4 of the contributes on Conservapedia aren't trolls. It's a source for a lot of the content on there, but I'm pretty sure this one is Aschlafly's baby. I wish there was some drug I could take to gain his amazing worldview, just for a day. (Worldview is an official conservative word, meaning "a comprehensive way of looking at life and the world; sometimes used to criticize a liberal's irrational belief system".)
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm still not convinced that at least 3/4 of the contributes on Conservapedia aren't trolls. Didn't RationalWiki once get someone into Schlafly's inner circle, like to the point of becoming his second-in-command? Or was that just some random troll?
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Grem posted:Um, attributing that story to a Priest, who can't have sex in the Catholic religion (also the only religion with nuns I'm pretty sure), and a Nun, who fall under the same no sex rule as a Priest, make it one of the weirdest stories I could possibly imagine. Should of said "Oh, so that's what people who abandon their Holy work think, I'll go ask people who stick to the word of God". Yeah, they're a weird bunch. He left the Church to get married although some in the family believe he was forced out because he was a huge alcoholic (not anymore but was). It was a different time and that part is shrouded in mystery with many of us. But they are the stereotype for those who buy into crazy e-mails. I remember a couple years ago they were bringing up some poo poo about a highway being built to transport Mexicans or something and how we were going to merge our currency with the Peso. I explained to them that these were bad conspiracy theories but they were convinced otherwise.
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Niwrad posted:Yeah, they're a weird bunch. He left the Church to get married although some in the family believe he was forced out because he was a huge alcoholic (not anymore but was). It was a different time and that part is shrouded in mystery with many of us. http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul349.html Ron Paul's most serious loving conspiracy theory. He makes no secret of his belief in the NAFTA Superhighway. I remember I read a piece by him once that started with something like "The first thing they need to do in order to build the NAFTA Superhighway is to convince the people there is no NAFTA Superhighway. Don't believe them; it's real!" It's literal crazy logic, and a major political figure pre-empts any explanation with "They'll try to convince you it's crazy, but don't believe them!"
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jojoinnit posted:I'm dumb, his work as a physicist was in the next paragraph of Wikipedia.
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http://www.wilsoncenter.org/events/docs/A%20National%20Strategic%20Narrative.pdf I wish this could be among the chain letters posted 
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Nucleic Acids posted:Didn't RationalWiki once get someone into Schlafly's inner circle, like to the point of becoming his second-in-command? Or was that just some random troll?
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Not really a chain letter per se, but a Facebook post I saw today:quote:If every fortune 500 company's profits are taxed 100%, all personal income over $250,000 is taxed 100%, annual military budget rescinded...we would still be a quarter trillion dollars in debt as a nation THIS YEAR ALONE!!! So you tell me what the problem is, do we need higher taxes or to cut spending? I'm slightly miffed by this, I can't understand how these numbers even make sense. Maybe someone could enlighten me to where this came from, and how those numbers make sense?
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UnmaskedGremlin posted:Not really a chain letter per se, but a Facebook post I saw today: Hahah, are they confusing Debt with Deficit? They accidentally made a great point. We could pay off all but $250 billion of the debt in ONE SINGLE YEAR!
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UnmaskedGremlin posted:Not really a chain letter per se, but a Facebook post I saw today: Well he's technically right. That would be more or less the entire US GDP, which is about equal to the US national debt (14 trillion *edit* derp derp). The kicker is the "THIS YEAR ALONE." Somehow they got the idea that the US national debt is the yearly deficit. Which it's not. If the US instituted a federal tax of 100% for a single year it would be enough to pay the entire federal budget for the next four years-ish alone. PsychoInternetHawk fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Apr 15, 2011 |
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XyloJW posted:Hahah, are they confusing Debt with Deficit? They accidentally made a great point. We could pay off all but $250 billion of the debt in ONE SINGLE YEAR! You can't ask them to make that kind of sacrifice! Now, we're going to need your kids to pay for their own books this year...
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I've been emailing my dad back and forth about politics, and his mantra was always "watch the stock market". I threw that in his face and asked him why he supported Bush when he saw a record drop in the DJIA while Obama's admin has seen a huge surge in the DJIA. He then said that the reason the stock market is so high is that because Obama extended the Bush tax cuts. I then pointed out that it was already up 3k before that was even announced. He hasn't responded. Is it too much to ask for people to be intellectually honest? If you're really going to base your suppport on what the stock market does, THEN DO IT! Don't make up a reason and then shy away when shown reality. The GOP has convinced people that FREELOADERS and WELFARE QUEENS are ruining the country, and that defense spending is "keeping us safe" and therefore necessary.
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Thenipwax posted:The GOP has convinced people that FREELOADERS and WELFARE QUEENS are ruining the country, and that defense spending is "keeping us safe" and therefore necessary. Heck, just look at how much money we wasted on the F-22, considering that we didn't use it for very long at all.
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Ninja_Orca posted:Heck, just look at how much money we wasted on the F-22, considering that we didn't use it for very long at all. Or look at the Crusader tank, or the Comanche helicopter, etc. There are many projects that are literally given hundreds of millions of dollars and then are completely scrapped. Why not start at the top and cut that poo poo out? The Comanche program costed 6.9 BILLION. The Crusader program costed 11 BILLION. Thenipwax fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Apr 15, 2011 |
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quote:DONALD TRUMP ON THE ISSUES: I honestly can't tell if this is for or against. 
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quote:-Trump implied he’ll increase defense spending, build better weapons, and have better intelligence so that the US military can achieve its goals with fewer human casualties. I guess he's gonna go to the munitions factory himself, roll up his sleeves, and by god give those terrorists something to fear!
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I especially like "I'm against abortion and gay marriage, but you shouldn't focus on that in an election". Translation: If you agree with me then I get points, if you disagree then just ignore those issues, thanks.
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I really hope trump gets the republican nomination. He's unelectable to swing voters and will ensure Obama's victory in 2012. No independent will vote for a reality TV star who lost a ton of money by running a casino into the ground.
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Dominion posted:I especially like "I'm against abortion and gay marriage, but you shouldn't focus on that in an election".
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Thenipwax posted:Or look at the Crusader tank, or the Comanche helicopter, etc. There are many projects that are literally given hundreds of millions of dollars and then are completely scrapped. Why not start at the top and cut that poo poo out? I think the traditional reason is that it directed a lot of pork into the congressional districts of the politicians who championed these things, so much the better if the pork was spread out across multiple states to give the project that much more of a foothold in Congress whether it was worth a poo poo or not. Actually these "oldie but goodie" defense pork project boondoggles would make a great nostalgia thread. I remember the names of some of these things like the Sgt. York antiaircraft gun. I remember seeing the pictures in Time magazine with whatever war machine porn article they were hawking. I bet there are a lot of awesome coffee mugs, pens, shirts and other defense contractor trinkets floating around out there associated with some of this stuff. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M247_Sergeant_York
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jojoinnit posted:I honestly can't tell if this is for or against. Pretty sure there isn't 1.5 trillion dollars in oil in Iraq. Hell, maybe there is, but to "take" Iraq's oil you'd have to put troops there, and you're basically offsetting the revenue of the oil with the cost of the troops. Wait, scratch that, it's probably a lot more sinister. Oil companies come in and take the oil with U.S. military protection. Oil companies profit and social services are cut to pay for the troops. Also you're sending men and women to die for oil, but we're well past that being a surprise, I think.
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Zwabu posted:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M247_Sergeant_York Wikipedia posted:The results were abysmal. Unable to hit drones moving even in a straight line, the tests were later relaxed to hovering ones. The radar proved unable to lock even to this target, as the return was too small. The testers then started adding radar reflectors to the drone to address this "problem", eventually having to add four. Easterbrook, still covering the ongoing debacle, described this as being similar to demonstrating the abilities of a bloodhound by having it find a man standing alone in the middle of an empty parking lot, covered with steaks.[21] The system now tracked the drone, and after firing a lengthy burst of shells the drone was knocked off target. As it flew out of control, the range safety officer had it destroyed by remote control. This was interpreted by the press as an attempt to "fake" the results, describing it as "sophomoric deceits".[22] From that point on, every test success was written off as faked.[23]
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Lord Hawking posted:Funny you should mention that. This is a link shared by my cousin's wife through Facebook. Some of the stuff is true some is bullshit. Africa's population size having nothing to do with the poverty and famine there are completely true. Also the fact that we grow more food than humans can eat. The problem is transportation which is not only expensive but unfeasible.
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Whoops! Local Tea Party nut catching some poo poo. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/16/marilyn-davenports-racist_n_850063.html Marilyn Davenport posted:"Oh, come on! Everybody who knows me knows that I am not a racist. It was a joke. I have friends who are black. Besides, I only sent it to a few people--mostly people I didn't think would be upset by it." Yes, Marilyn, you do have black friends. Whelp! I guess that means you're completely off the hook for mass forwarding blatantly racist garbage.
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tek79 posted:Whoops! Local Tea Party nut catching some poo poo. Well, it kind of makes sense. If the President is a chimpanzee, I can understand why he wouldn't have a birth certificate. Or maybe the birth certificate certifies him as a live born chimpanzee. He did spend two billion dollars on the campaign to hide his birth certificate. I am more convinced that he is hiding something more than ever.
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Donkey Kunt posted:Well, it kind of makes sense. If the President is a chimpanzee, I can understand why he wouldn't have a birth certificate. Or maybe the birth certificate certifies him as a live born chimpanzee. He did spend two billion dollars on the campaign to hide his birth certificate. If you're not being ironic, show me your birth certificate right now.
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Stew Man Chew posted:Conservapedia is like taking Poe's Law and blowing it wayyyyyy out of its original bounds. Speaking of...
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Idran posted:Speaking of... I don't know what to believe 
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Idran posted:Speaking of... "Liberals/atheists fail to realize or conveniently ignore that mere appeals to ridicule (which is a logical fallacy) is a poor substitute for evidence and logical thinking." These people are good at the cognitive dissonance.
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Idran posted:Speaking of... This link (and the rest of conservapedia) always gives me a 403, am I the only one?
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Perestroika posted:This link (and the rest of conservapedia) always gives me a 403, am I the only one? I read somewhere that conservapedia blocks re-directs from SA, I guess they felt the business end of a goon rush at some point.
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I think Conservapedia has blocked non-US users from even accessing the site. It's really for the better sort of people who have the good sense to live in America.
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I think Conservapedia has blocked non-US users from even accessing the site. It's really for the better sort of people who have the good sense to live in America. You might even say Americans are "exceptional" compared to everybody else.
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Perestroika posted:This link (and the rest of conservapedia) always gives me a 403, am I the only one?  [Click for big]
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Vivian Darkbloom posted:I think Conservapedia has blocked non-US users from even accessing the site. It's really for the better sort of people who have the good sense to live in America. Tried it through a proxy and yep, that was it. Figures.
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Speaking of Conservapedia, their best article has to be the one on evolution. I'm not really sure what segment is the best one to highlight but if I had to pick it would be everything past and including the section titled: Creation Scientists Tend to Win the Creation-Evolution Debates. Really puts the cognitive dissonance and blatant rewriting of reality to fit their own beliefs on display.
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http://www.tektoonics.com/etc/parody/fundyath.html A link to a conservative "humor" site that the Poe's Law page recommended. Also: quote:Atheistic thinking, which has no proof and evidence that it is correct, is reduced to attempting to dilute the definition of atheism which most encyclopedias of philosophy employ. On the the other hand, in the field of Christian apologetics, many sound arguments based on evidence have been written. For example, in the field of Christian legal apologetics, which is a subset of Christian apologetics, Simon Greenleaf, one of the early founders of the Harvard Law School and a notable author and expert on weighing evidence, wrote an excellent defense of the resurrection of Jesus Christ entitled Testimony of the Evangelists. Holy poo poo...
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