|
Pester posted:And if the one other bit of history mentioned needs refreshed, Roy gets peeved at people forgetting their evil deeds because Xykon couldn't remember killing Roy's father's master. Or Roy's name, in any of their encounters.
|
#
?
Apr 18, 2011 20:47
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 10:33 |
|
|
I love Thog, but it's gonna be awesome to see Roy go full Conan in this pit fight.
|
|
#
?
Apr 18, 2011 21:32
|
|
|
crime fighting hog posted:Is what Roy is referencing online or in the books? You read this stripe for years nearly biweekly and you forget the small stuff. Heck, it updates so slowly, I've forgotten almost all of the plot. I'll probably spend a few days re-reading the whole thing whenever it finally wraps up.
|
|
#
?
Apr 18, 2011 23:11
|
|
|
The funny thing is Roy is actually more expendable from a plot perspective than Thog, because it's been established that the party can rez a member pretty easily and it's unclear whether Nale would Rez Thog.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 10:00
|
|
|
Toussaint Louverture posted:The funny thing is Roy is actually more expendable from a plot perspective than Thog, because it's been established that the party can rez a member pretty easily and it's unclear whether Nale would Rez Thog. This is stupid. You are stupid. It took them almost a year (?) in-comic to find a priest that could rez Roy.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 10:11
|
|
|
While that's technically true, that priest was Durkon.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 10:28
|
|
|
Interestingly enough, this is one the few situations in 3.x D&D where fighters actually shine. Combat is assured to take place in melee, with neither combatant being able to really force saving throws, nor deny the other a tactical position. Roy actually has the upper hand in a few ways, Combat Expertise can allow him to fight defensively at the cost of a iterative attack once Thog rages, forcing Thog to sacrifice power attack to even stand a chance of hitting Roy, Thog's special features (rage included) don't give him much of an upper hand over Roy's feats, both buffing to hit and damage rolls in a similar fashion. He also has some 5 unknown fighter feats, that are likely pretty focused on hitting things with his sword in more reliable ways. The only downside is if Thog begins to make sunder attempts, because in unarmed combat Roy doesn't stand a chance.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 11:22
|
|
|
Red_Mage posted:Interestingly enough, this is one the few situations in 3.x D&D where fighters actually shine. Combat is assured to take place in melee, with neither combatant being able to really force saving throws, nor deny the other a tactical position. Please... at Roy's level, any mage could kill, dominate, imprison, or paralyze him with no trouble at all, from point-blank range if need be. Just about the only way to not completely outclass him would be to throw brute-force blast spells, which is probably why that's what most mages do in OotS-world.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 11:51
|
|
|
Ashenai posted:Please... at Roy's level, any mage could kill, dominate, imprison, or paralyze him with no trouble at all, from point-blank range if need be. Just about the only way to not completely outclass him would be to throw brute-force blast spells, which is probably why that's what most mages do in OotS-world. Um, this has nothing to do with mages? Well, except Red_Mage, who's correct: Roy has a good mechanical chance to put Thog down.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 12:14
|
|
|
Ashenai posted:Please... at Roy's level, any mage could kill, dominate, imprison, or paralyze him with no trouble at all, from point-blank range if need be. Just about the only way to not completely outclass him would be to throw brute-force blast spells, which is probably why that's what most mages do in OotS-world. Yea Roy's gonna be in some pretty big trouble when some random spell caster from the crowd starts throwing save or dies at him. Until then he'll have to busy himself beating the crap out of Thog.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 12:34
|
|
|
Well, considering the gladiator armor is probably barely functional, I doubt either Roy or Thog have an AC over 13. From a mechanical standpoint, it's really just a Power Attack vs HP reserve race.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 12:45
|
|
|
inthesto posted:Well, considering the gladiator armor is probably barely functional, I doubt either Roy or Thog have an AC over 13. From a mechanical standpoint, it's really just a Power Attack vs HP reserve race. Otherwise known as "Whoever goes first wins"
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 16:48
|
|
|
Unless Thog has leap attack or levels in Frenzied Berserker, I don't think any one-shotting is going to happen.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 17:23
|
|
|
Affi posted:This is stupid. You are stupid. It took them almost a year (?) in-comic to find a priest that could rez Roy. More accurately it took a year to escape Azure City and arrange for circumstances in which Roy could be raised, and this was largely because he died during a massive party-splitting battle which separated the party for, well, about a year. The current circumstances, in which the Order of the Stick are all in the same place and Elan is the son of the local dictator, are very different.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 18:53
|
|
|
Especially given that Tarquin aims for his son to leave and grow in power, as well as his right hand man being noted as capable of resurrection and prepared for it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 19:10
|
|
|
Affi posted:This is stupid. You are stupid. It took them almost a year (?) in-comic to find a priest that could rez Roy. Durkon's 20 yards away. Literally the only problem is Roy losing yet another level. He'd be like 3 levels behind. A fighter three levels behind the party is only a little more useful than a commoner three levels behind. Even the diamonds aren't an issue for parties in the teens.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 20:27
|
|
|
Is it just me or is Elan's dad somehow breaking the 4th wall? He's essentially saying that Thog is a homicidal maniac and yet everyone still likes him.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 20:51
|
|
|
The first strip vaporized the 4th wall. You may actually have inhaled a little back in '03.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 20:59
|
|
|
Misandu posted:Yea Roy's gonna be in some pretty big trouble when some random spell caster from the crowd starts throwing save or dies at him. Until then he'll have to busy himself beating the crap out of Thog. I'm wondering if something isn't going on here, though. Consider that Roy whacked the poo poo out of Thog from behind and the sword went "clunk" or whatever, knocked Thog down but he didn't say "Ow" or otherwise indicate that it actually hurt, AND there are no scuffs or red lines indicating HP damage on Thog. Any one of those things, I wouldn't think anything of it, but all three? Just sayin'.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 21:21
|
|
|
navyjack posted:I'm wondering if something isn't going on here, though. Consider that Roy whacked the poo poo out of Thog from behind and the sword went "clunk" or whatever, knocked Thog down but he didn't say "Ow" or otherwise indicate that it actually hurt, AND there are no scuffs or red lines indicating HP damage on Thog. Any one of those things, I wouldn't think anything of it, but all three? Thog is a mid level Barbarian in some sort of 3/3.5 world, his skull is about as resistant to damage as wood so it's not too surprising they make the same noise when you hit them with a long metal stick.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 22:14
|
|
|
There is also the possibility that Thog was given some buffs before he was shoved out into the arena.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 22:18
|
|
|
The simpler explanation is that visible body damage is relative to hit points, and Thog is just made out of hit points.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 22:25
|
|
|
inthesto posted:The simpler explanation is that visible body damage is relative to hit points, and Thog is just made out of hit points. thog's mostly a barbarian, right? D12 hit die? Yeah, he's just tripping over hit points by this point.
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 22:48
|
|
|
High level 3.5 barbs also get some DR. With a nonmagical sword I could see it coming into play
|
|
#
?
Apr 19, 2011 23:34
|
|
|
Morand posted:High level 3.5 barbs also get some DR. With a nonmagical sword I could see it coming into play But isn't this Roy's father's sword reforged with meteoric iron and enchanted with - oh look I've gone cross-eyed 
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 06:06
|
|
|
Morand posted:High level 3.5 barbs also get some DR. With a nonmagical sword I could see it coming into play Nilbop posted:But isn't this Roy's father's sword reforged with meteoric iron and enchanted with - oh look I've gone cross-eyed  Barbarians get DR X/- (aka 5/-) which means it isn't affected by the magical properties that usually bypass damage reduction.D20 SRD posted:Damage Reduction (Ex) I like to pronounce it "Dee Are 5 Slashdash" because it sounds like a Mario Kart game. Misandu fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Apr 20, 2011 |
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 06:11
|
|
|
Roy's sword is +5 though, so I guess he's just rolling usual weapon damage?
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 09:31
|
|
|
That's not his sword, that's a loaner.
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 09:33
|
|
|
Pope Guilty posted:Roy's sword is +5 though, so I guess he's just rolling usual weapon damage? Roy isn't using his sword. efb: should've been using inherent bonuses Red_Mage fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Apr 20, 2011 |
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 09:33
|
|
|
Welp. Nevermind me, then.
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 09:34
|
|
|
(His name is Roy Greenhilt.)
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 09:35
|
|
|
It's a gladiator battle. They probably gave him a dull sword to make sure the fight is drawn out and interesting. No one wants to see a coup de grace in the first 10 seconds. It's like MMA or boxing. Sure, talking about someone getting knocked out in under 10 seconds is cool, but people who paid money to go to that fight probably would have enjoyed a bit more of a show than 10 seconds...
|
|
#
?
Apr 20, 2011 19:58
|
|
|
Mystic Mongol posted:(His name is Robert Paulson.) (ftfy)
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 01:50
|
|
|
Wow, I never noticed until now that Thog is literally just a recolor of Roy with fangs.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 19:50
|
|
|
Every male character is literally just a recolor of Roy with additional features.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 19:59
|
|
|
Gay Polymers posted:Wow, I never noticed until now that Thog is literally just a recolor of Roy with fangs.  The art isn't really complex. You should have seen this earlier.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 20:28
|
|
|
KOraithER posted:Every male character is literally just a recolor of Roy with additional features. Durkon 
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 20:40
|
|
|
Kuros posted:
I know it's not complex and all, that was just something I'd never noticed. Plus Thog hasn't been around for awhile. Whatever, forget I said it. 
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 21:54
|
|
|
Gay Polymers posted:I know it's not complex and all, that was just something I'd never noticed. Plus Thog hasn't been around for awhile. Whatever, forget I said it. I didn't mean to come off as a dick. I apologize. 
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 22:04
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 22, 2024 10:33 |
|
|
Of course, Thog in particular is also Roy's evil opposite; they have more reason than normal to be visually close.
|
|
#
?
Apr 21, 2011 23:29
|
|