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Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

Doppelganger posted:

Was it ever revealed what was in that box Donald Love had in GTA3?

Human flesh.

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Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

ElwoodCuse posted:

In Liberty City Stories he's revealed to be a cannibal, there's a mission where you steal corpses for him
I remember that, there's also a part in GTA3 where Ray Machowski has you kill a journalist who photographed Love at a "morgue party", hinting that he's also a necrophiliac.

But in GTA3 Love has you help him get his hands on some kind of package that's been delivered by airplane. He never says what it is, and leaves behind an empty box when he disappears.

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

As I recall, the Love thing just kinda ends because originally you were supposed to fly a plane into his tower.

For some reason they cut that out, though.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Crappy Jack posted:

As I recall, the Love thing just kinda ends because originally you were supposed to fly a plane into his tower.

For some reason they cut that out, though.

Weird. I wonder what happened to lead Rockstar to edit something like that out.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo

KFCB posted:

Weird. I wonder what happened to lead Rockstar to edit something like that out.

Really weird. Did something happen in 2001?

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Crappy Jack posted:

As I recall, the Love thing just kinda ends because originally you were supposed to fly a plane into his tower.

For some reason they cut that out, though.

I thought those were side quests for some guy named Darkel (or so was the rumor).

Crappy Jack
Nov 21, 2005

We got some serious shit to discuss.

wa27 posted:

I thought those were side quests for some guy named Darkel (or so was the rumor).

Correct. He was a Middle Eastern guy who had you committing various acts around Liberty City to cause civil unrest, culminating with you flying a plane into Love's tower.

Maybe they just couldn't find a good enough voice actor or something. I don't know why they cut him out.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Don't forget El Burro and his donkey porn memorabilia.

Crappy Jack posted:

Correct. He was a Middle Eastern guy who had you committing various acts around Liberty City to cause civil unrest, culminating with you flying a plane into Love's tower.

Maybe they just couldn't find a good enough voice actor or something. I don't know why they cut him out.

Maybe they felt that as a middle eastern man, they just couldn't do the character justice and refused to include him because of the awful stereotypes associated with such acts. They were looking out for middle eastern people everywhere.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Apr 21, 2011

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
They probably weren't satisfied with the skin they made.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Doppelganger posted:

Was it ever revealed what was in that box Donald Love had in GTA3?

I remember reading ages ago it was supposed to be some Chinese/Japanese portal to another realm or dimension based on some old myth or story. Like the Hellraiser cubes but not sure if good or evil. One of the earlier missions has you breaking out an old Chinese man who was caught by the police. Then you had to get the box with a gently caress ton of police chasing after it, you assume it drugs as its dropped by plane into the sea, but most were decoys to ensure its safe arrival.
And Love was shown to be a full out necrosex offender in the original GTA3, and not just a cannibal in LC: Stories. There was a quest to destroy photos of it.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger

Cojawfee posted:

They probably weren't satisfied with the skin they made.
I think it looks pretty cool!

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Why couldn't they have put Darkel in GTA IV? Same city, plenty of time passed since the first game to find a new voice actor, and I think it would've added something to GTA IV. Make his missions completely optional and not count towards the 100% completion, so Rockstar could keep their precious morality they insist on shoehorning into every game and we could have the mayhem that Rockstar Games used to stand for.

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

GTA3 was a fun game, but my main problem with it was the fact that when you finish almost all of the missions, you end up pissing off almost every gang and can't go anywhere without getting shot at.

It's a good thing they toned down the gangs in the later games. I think in Vice City only one gang will become hostile to you and in San Andreas enemy gangs don't attack you right away unless you are wearing green or shoot first.

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Starhawk64 posted:

GTA3 was a fun game, but my main problem with it was the fact that when you finish almost all of the missions, you end up pissing off almost every gang and can't go anywhere without getting shot at.

Oh god, the Leone mafia with their shotguns are the worst. Drive too close to two of them on the street and your car will blow up instantly.

shotgunbadger
Nov 18, 2008

WEEK 4 - RETIRED

wa27 posted:

Oh god, the Leone mafia with their shotguns are the worst. Drive too close to two of them on the street and your car will blow up instantly.

Yea it was good for story but really unless you did all your side quests and all by the near end of the game, you just had to make a wild sprint from mission location to location and pray you don't have to go by little italy.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
The gangs aren't a problem, it's just the fact that they stupidly gave the mafia dudes SHOTGUNS that can blow up your car with one blast.

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



I liked that there where gans gunning for you in GTA3 a lot though, SA probably handled it best with making it not be everywhere but still fun/important.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 26 days!

wa27 posted:

Oh god, the Leone mafia with their shotguns are the worst. Drive too close to two of them on the street and your car will blow up instantly.

I learned the hard way that any changes to the weapon stats file were global.

:kiddo: Oh hell yes gonna make the shotgun fully automatic and have tons of range and and ohgodmafiatur-

*bambambambambambam*

:supaburn:

Old Grasshopper
Apr 7, 2011

"Patience, young grasshopper."

Capn Beeb posted:

I learned the hard way that any changes to the weapon stats file were global.

:kiddo: Oh hell yes gonna make the shotgun fully automatic and have tons of range and and ohgodmafiatur-

*bambambambambambam*

:supaburn:

Hehehe, that sounds crazy! The overpowered shotguns were one of the more annoying things about the game. That and getting fat.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Capn Beeb posted:

I learned the hard way that any changes to the weapon stats file were global.

:kiddo: Oh hell yes gonna make the shotgun fully automatic and have tons of range and and ohgodmafiatur-

*bambambambambambam*

:supaburn:

This gave me a belly laugh.

Doppelganger
Oct 11, 2002

Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger
Did you guys play GTA3 with trails on or off? I was so used to it by the time I realized it was an option that it didn't look right to me without them. It makes everything looks semi-hazy and dreamlike, which to me really fit the mood of the game.

I turned them off in VC though, because they looked terrible.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Doppelganger posted:

Did you guys play GTA3 with trails on or off? I was so used to it by the time I realized it was an option that it didn't look right to me without them. It makes everything looks semi-hazy and dreamlike, which to me really fit the mood of the game.

I turned them off in VC though, because they looked terrible.

I know I must have had them on when I played it on PS2 because I didn't know about the option until I bought the classic pack last weekend and was like "what the gently caress is wrong with my FPS?" Turned them off and now the game feels way more foreign. I think I will be turning them back on because with out it the game just looks... ugly. (and that's not just the 2001 graphics)

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!

Doppelganger posted:

Did you guys play GTA3 with trails on or off? I was so used to it by the time I realized it was an option that it didn't look right to me without them. It makes everything looks semi-hazy and dreamlike, which to me really fit the mood of the game.

I turned them off in VC though, because they looked terrible.

I always turn all that stuff off, just like the film grain in TLAD and such. I'd rather have sharper ugly stuff instead of blurry graphics.

Also, anyone that's afraid about GTA4 / episodes running crap on the PC: This is no longer true. Just reaffirming this, as it's been said before. A year ago I bought GTA 4 for the PC, ran like crap, even on 800x600 with everything low. Now it runs pretty decently with medium settings @ 1280x800. This is on a laptop with a NVIDIA Quadro card, which is not meant for serious gaming, so I guess that's a pretty big improvement!

Just finished TLAD for the first time, pretty neat. The final 2/3 missions where weird though. The one where you bust into the prison has almost no dialogue, and the way Jim dies offscreen is also pretty lame. The first few missions have heaps and heaps of nonsense dialogue, but later on it's pretty silent.

The missions are OK, if a bit bland, same for the characters (except Stubbs, that guy rocks). Now on to TBOGT!

Zedd
Jul 6, 2009

I mean, who would have noticed another madman around here?



Samopsa posted:

The one where you bust into the prison has almost no dialogue, and the way Jim dies offscreen is also pretty lame.
Must be a bug, I had decent ammounts of dialog in the final mission.
Although that used a generic model in GTA4 itself, Niko had a mission involving that spoiler.

Jefferoo
Jun 24, 2008

by Lowtax
So how the hell do I install mods into the Steam version of GTA:SA? I tried some sort of like Portuguese HD mod and it crashes mid-load.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Samopsa posted:

I always turn all that stuff off, just like the film grain in TLAD and such. I'd rather have sharper ugly stuff instead of blurry graphics.

Also, anyone that's afraid about GTA4 / episodes running crap on the PC: This is no longer true. Just reaffirming this, as it's been said before. A year ago I bought GTA 4 for the PC, ran like crap, even on 800x600 with everything low. Now it runs pretty decently with medium settings @ 1280x800. This is on a laptop with a NVIDIA Quadro card, which is not meant for serious gaming, so I guess that's a pretty big improvement!

Just finished TLAD for the first time, pretty neat. The final 2/3 missions where weird though. The one where you bust into the prison has almost no dialogue, and the way Jim dies offscreen is also pretty lame. The first few missions have heaps and heaps of nonsense dialogue, but later on it's pretty silent.

The missions are OK, if a bit bland, same for the characters (except Stubbs, that guy rocks). Now on to TBOGT!

Jim dies onscreen, just in a different game.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Zedd posted:

Although that used a generic model in GTA4 itself, Niko had a mission involving that spoiler.

Yeah, it slowly dawned on me when I heard the news. I realized that in GTA IV I killed Jim.

And that made me pretty sad. I liked Jim :smith:

Edit: And speaking of "generic models", was that supposed to be Tony Prince during the deal in the shipping yard in TLaD? The model looked nothing like him and there was a different voice actor, but if I remembered correctly it was Tony that accompanied Luis in BoGT. Luis was exactly the same model and voice actor, though.

King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Apr 21, 2011

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
Trails look like poo poo on ps2 version but great on pc.

By the way all of the bulletproof cars in 3 were the best. gently caress yeah; take that Leone family.

The 4 expansion characters meeting other characters in 4 and somehow blending into the story and offering a different view on the things was the best loving part of the gta4 games. It was bad rear end doing that one diamond mission with Niko as Johnny in TLAD and then seeing how much of a monster Niko is. Johnny is like holy poo poo! after seeing all those bodies.

Jupiter Jazz fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Apr 21, 2011

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
Heh, forgot about the Niko side of that mission; played it about a year ago. I really liked the stories weaving together like something out of Pulp Fiction.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
I think it'd be badass if they did that even more in GTA5.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


bort posted:

Try this: http://www.motioninjoy.com/wiki/en/game/guide/gtasa

I wrote that button setup and it was working for me. I don't recall if the right stick worked properly or not, but I used it to 100% GTA III.

Just wanted to say thanks so much for this! I've been wanting to replay Vice City for the longest time on my PC but wasn't able to due to the controls being a bitch with a controller. This completely fixed that problem for me.


EDIT:

So I never played LC or VC stories? Are either worth picking up?

Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Apr 21, 2011

MikeRabsitch
Aug 23, 2004

Show us what you got, what you got

Boondock Saint posted:

Just wanted to say thanks so much for this! I've been wanting to replay Vice City for the longest time on my PC but wasn't able to due to the controls being a bitch with a controller. This completely fixed that problem for me.


EDIT:

So I never played LC or VC stories? Are either worth picking up?

Both stories were good. It was great playing through LC again with all the improvements they had made within the series. VC Stories is just more VC which is never a bad thing.

Dotcom656
Apr 7, 2007
I WILL TAKE BETTER PICTURES OF MY DRAWINGS BEFORE POSTING THEM
Does anyone know of any good car replacement packs for GTA IV? About a year ago I went through modding tons of cars in game and ended up breaking something horribly. I'd rather not repeat that experience and just use one large car pack.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Himuro posted:

The 4 expansion characters meeting other characters in 4 and somehow blending into the story and offering a different view on the things was the best loving part of the gta4 games. It was bad rear end doing that one diamond mission with Niko as Johnny in TLAD and then seeing how much of a monster Niko is. Johnny is like holy poo poo! after seeing all those bodies.

That was very well done, and as I said a few pages ago, I'm betting GTA5 has multiple protagonists right out of the box so that there's more of that.

I don't know quite what it is, or if it's just a combination of many little things, but I loved TLaD so very, very much. The missions are mostly pretty varied (not as crazy as TBoGT, but good enough) and the story was amazing to me. They did a great job of capturing the feel of the whole biker subculture, the VAs did fantastic, the stuff between Johnny and Ashley, the emails Johnny gets from his brother, etc. It was also a nice change of pace to have a protagonist that was reasonably sane and basically a good person (CJ was like that too, except when the game randomly decided he wasn't). It was the perfect change of pace after the exhausting experience of playing Niko, poster boy for PTSD and cognitive dissonance.

Jupiter Jazz
Jan 13, 2007

by sebmojo
I'm betting GTA5 will have multiple main characters due to that "leak" (if it's true) as well.

Playing as both a cop and a gangster would be neat.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Himuro posted:

I'm betting GTA5 will have multiple main characters due to that "leak" (if it's true) as well.

Playing as both a cop and a gangster would be neat.

Especially if you got to play both sides of a crime. Hell, make that the bridge between them... catching the gangster being the last mission of the cop and then taking over as the gangster to break out and continue your crime spree.

Also, do you have a link to the link stuff?

Gyshall
Feb 24, 2009

Had a couple of drinks.
Saw a couple of things.
GTA: The Wire? Sign me up and take my money.

conscript salad
Oct 5, 2005
I am not allowed to post outside of CC or repsnake will hurt me.
I really want a more dynamic car-jacking mechanic. Open door, pull out motorist and drive off is all a single button press. Same with parked cars; break window, open door, hot-wire and drive away.

Give the motorist a gun or pepper spray. Have them put up a fight while still inside the vehicle.

And allow me to acquire equipment to steal cars without getting into a police chase from the get go. Like using a slimjim that requires me to move the analog stick around until i feel the sweet spot and the controller rumbles. Sure if I'm already wanted and in a hurry I can just smash the window in but giving me that option would make the game much more tactile.

I think a hot-wiring mini game could work well too, something along the lines of the lock-picking one from Bully.

Cage
Jul 17, 2003
www.revivethedrive.org

conscript salad posted:

And allow me to acquire equipment to steal cars without getting into a police chase from the get go.
In GTA4 this will only happen if a cop sees you stealing a car, otherwise you won't get any stars.


You should check out GTA: Chinatown Wars if you have a DS, PSP, or iOS device. I never played it but it involved little minigames to do stuff like breaking in cars.

quote:

Older cars require a few turns of a screwdriver in the ignition, while other cars require hotwiring. Newer, more expensive cars require the player to "hack" the computerized immobilizer.

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VoidAltoid
Sep 27, 2005
And the mini games get quite old very quickly because you steal cars so often in a game titled Grand Theft Auto. Even with different minigames for each one, I got sick of it pretty quick because I just wanted to get in the car and go, not play a minigame to be able to drive off.

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