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CAPT SCRAPS I'm suing a law firm for being bad guys, would you be willing to talk with me on the telephone sometime? [] yes [] no If yes, please pm me your telephone number. Love, Roger_Mudd
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Ok, I have a vandalism (misdo, under $400) where the police used night vision goggles. a. Why do the police have night vision goggles? This is a crappy small town with nothing but meth. b. Why are they in a patrol car responding to a noise complaint (which eventually became vandalism)? They were not SWAT. The cop thread got closed, so I'm posting here. Goddammit, they may not be able to fund my position next year, but the cops get night vision goggles?
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My complaint is pretty consistently that they rely on halfass dipshit information to obtains for their warrants that are basically "Crackhead joe says that citizen X has Y amount of Z in his house" and don't do fuckall for surveillance before kicking in citizen X's door and sticking a shotgun down his throat so I'd be happy if the cops were using night vision goggles and trying to be sneaky and do their goddamn jobs also they can afford military fetishist poo poo because of the wonder that is proceeds of crime, aka we got you with some drugs so gimme all your poo poo
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Apr 21, 2011 01:18
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nm posted:
It amazes me the cop funding this poo poo burg town I live in has. Recently they got a radio controlled flying camera. I can't wait for one of our guys to have that in their case. Every downtown festival is littered with their tactical vehicles/law enforcement porn.
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Apr 21, 2011 01:36
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drat Phantom posted:And if anyone could tell me to what extent BU/BC transfer students get their biglaw dreams raped at OCI, please let me know so I can have the appropriate amount of lube on hand. TIA Why in the world would you transfer to Boston? Can't you get in somewhere better?
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Save me jeebus posted:It amazes me the cop funding this poo poo burg town I live in has. Recently they got a radio controlled flying camera. I can't wait for one of our guys to have that in their case. Every downtown festival is littered with their tactical vehicles/law enforcement porn.
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Apr 21, 2011 04:40
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nm posted:Run a suppression motion on that one. I think there's case law to support that. You might even make the Supreme Court. Scalia would say the founding fathers did't know about drones and lay the smack down in my dreams (he's kinda good on search issues) I'm pretty sure that trying to suppress evidence gathered by drones in a public downtown festival is a nonstarter.
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MaximumBob posted:I'm pretty sure that trying to suppress evidence gathered by drones in a public downtown festival is a nonstarter. Agreed, the Kyllo case (using infrared cameras to spy into people's homes, a 5-4 decision with justices all over the drat place) was limited in what it protected: "We think that obtaining by sense-enhancing technology any information regarding the interior of the home that could not otherwise have been obtained without physical "intrusion into a constitutionally protected area",(Silverman, 365 U.S., at 512), constitutes a search-at least where (as here) the technology in question is not in general public use." Public festival = not protected area.
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Florida v Riley would seem to suggest that as well. Kyllo was hosed to hell because Scalia got all indignantly erect over the idea of it being used to spy on the woman of the house drawing her evening bath.
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Petey posted:Florida v Riley would seem to suggest that as well. Kyllo was hosed to hell because Scalia got all indignantly erect over the idea of it being used to spy on the woman of the house drawing her evening bath. Scalia posted:To begin with, there is no necessary connection between the sophistication of the surveillance equipment and the “intimacy” of the details that it observes–which means that one cannot say (and the police cannot be assured) that use of the relatively crude equipment at issue here will always be lawful. The Agema Thermovision 210 might disclose, for example, at what hour each night the lady of the house takes her daily sauna and bath–a detail that many would consider “intimate”; and a much more sophisticated system might detect nothing more intimate than the fact that someone left a closet light on.
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MaximumBob posted:I'm pretty sure that trying to suppress evidence gathered by drones in a public downtown festival is a nonstarter. These things are at the festival to show them off. They're not using them there. The festival is for showing everyone their tank and drone, to say "hey guys, we're really the military" or some poo poo. --- And Kyllo -- Well some woman might be skinny dipping in her pool with 25 foot walls.
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mrtoodles posted:Why in the world would you transfer to Boston? Can't you get in somewhere better? Probably, but on some days I'm an emo baby and want to move to be with my SO. She's in Boston and that legal market is pretty insular according to other law students. I've heard (and checked on law firm websites) that BU and BC kids make up a pretty huge contingent of firm hires, as many of the Harvard kids end up leaving. Right now I'm looking at applying to Berkeley, Columbia, Chicago, and NYU just in case but on other days I'm thinking gently caress it I'm shipping up to Boston because I want to end up there anyway. Also going to drop the app on Harvard but that poo poo is an uphill battle even if I bump by GPA up to 3.9. Damn Phantom fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Apr 21, 2011 |
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drat Phantom posted:Probably, but on some days I'm an emo baby and want to move to be with my SO. She's in Boston and that legal market is pretty insular according to other law students. I've heard (and checked on law firm websites) that BU and BC kids make up a pretty huge contingent of firm hires, as many of the Harvard kids end up leaving. If you get into any of the schools you listed and go to Boston instead. Well, drat, I think you're the new law school forum idiot.
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drat Phantom posted:Probably, but on some days I'm an emo baby and want to move to be with my SO. She's in Boston and that legal market is pretty insular according to other law students. I've heard (and checked on law firm websites) that BU and BC kids make up a pretty huge contingent of firm hires, as many of the Harvard kids end up leaving. It's not that it's easier to get a Boston job out of BU/BC than it is out of a top school, it's just that Boston is essentially the only option BU/BC grads have, so the ones that do well there get jobs there. Also, firms don't go "Welp couldn't get the Harvard grad, time to take that dude from BU." You're just being silly.
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Petey posted:To begin with, there is no necessary connection between the sophistication of the surveillance equipment and the “intimacy” of the details that it observes–which means that one cannot say (and the police cannot be assured) that use of the relatively crude equipment at issue here will always be lawful. The Agema Thermovision 210 might disclose, for example, at what hour each night the lady of the house takes her daily sauna and bath–a detail that many would consider “intimate”; and a much more sophisticated system might detect nothing more intimate than the fact that someone left a closet light on. Lady of the house? Daily sauna in her house? Does Scalia not realize that not everybody in the country lives in WASPy multi-million dollar estates?
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drat Phantom posted:Probably, but on some days I'm an emo baby and want to move to be with my SO. She's in Boston and that legal market is pretty insular according to other law students. I've heard (and checked on law firm websites) that BU and BC kids make up a pretty huge contingent of firm hires, as many of the Harvard kids end up leaving. The Boston market is very insular and you will be an outsider during OCI, because you will not have actually started at BU/BC. Boston's market is also poo poo. It's just poo poo.
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I have to make a decision: Georgetown or Michigan. Georgetown is 1,000 a year cheaper than Michigan. (I'm getting 15k a year from Michigan out of state, and 17500 a year from Georgetown.) I like DC and am neutral Ann Arbor. Decide my fate!
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molomoloch posted:I have to make a decision: Georgetown or Michigan. Where do you want to work?
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Having gone to GULC, I would say go to Michigan. I think the GULC "brand" is overrated, and you'll be competing for summer jobs with a ton of loving law students who want to work in DC for the summer, so the market in DC is very very stiff.
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The Warszawa posted:The Boston market is very insular and you will be an outsider during OCI, because you will not have actually started at BU/BC. This is completely true. I'm at BC (2L). While everyone I know has a job this summer, more than half are outside of Boston. Boston firms are hiring small classes. One transfer student I know (from a lower-ranked Boston school) bombed out of OCI, in spite of him being exceptionally personable and a Boston-native. If you're going to be stupid and go to BU/BC, go to BU. They did better in our joint BU/BC NYC OCI last year based on the interview sheets they posted.
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qwertyman posted:Lady of the house? Daily sauna in her house? Oh he realizes it, he just doesn't care about anyone else.
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molomoloch posted:I have to make a decision: Georgetown or Michigan. Michigan. T13 or bust.
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I've been considering law school, still am even after seeing the scary OP. I have a bachelor's in business administration from University of Michigan, with a focus in accounting. I was considering going to law school to specialize in tax law, and then taking the bar and CPA exams. With my accounting background would I stand a better chance of achieving employment than my other peers, or should I just go get an MBA then CPA instead and become a corporate whore?
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baronvonwalz posted:With my accounting background would I stand a better chance of achieving employment than my other peers, or should I just go get an MBA then CPA instead and become a corporate whore? No. Your grades and where you go to law school will determine your employment chances. Also, your employment chances are slim to none because it's law school. Also, if you go to law school there is no need to take your CPA exam because you're a lawyer, not a CPA, and you will never be a CPA. BigHead fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Apr 21, 2011 |
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Apr 21, 2011 18:22
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molomoloch posted:I have to make a decision: Georgetown or Michigan. Is this a real question? Michigan.
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molomoloch posted:I have to make a decision: Georgetown or Michigan. t13 
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BigHead posted:No. Your grades and where you go to law school will determine your employment chances. I've seen a couple firms posting that they want someone with a bachelor's degree in accounting, a JD, and the ability to take the CPA exam. I'm not saying its common, but it happens. That being said don't go to law school
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entris or some other GULC student, what is gulaw wireless password? I'm in your library. Come find me!
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J Miracle posted:I've seen a couple firms posting that they want someone with a bachelor's degree in accounting, a JD, and the ability to take the CPA exam. I'm not saying its common, but it happens. Point of curiosity, it seems that the biggest reason posted in this thread for the reason not to be a lawyer is "Some people don't have jobs after graduation," yet that's the case for a lot of degrees. We're in the tail end of a recession/start of a recovery, why would it be expected that lawyers would be insulated from dismal job prospects?
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baronvonwalz posted:Point of curiosity, it seems that the biggest reason posted in this thread for the reason not to be a lawyer is "Some people don't have jobs after graduation," More accurately, "some people don't have jobs after graduation but still have to pay six figures worth of money that in the best case, could have gone somewhere more useful to them and, in the worst case, they don't have at all," but hey, don't let that stop you! I've found that if a) you're going free or really cheap, and b) you're going to a school that's good enough to actually get one of the limited jobs available, the thread generally defaults to "you probably don't want to be a lawyer, look at us, we're broken shells of people and it's the profession that did this to us, but hey, if you do, knock yourself out." edit: (alternatively if you're a Canadian going to school in Canada, but that mostly falls under a) and also because there are only two of us still posting here (who are, I think, both unemployed).) Dallan Invictus fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Apr 21, 2011 |
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We're getting an intern from the local Podunk U for fall semester. She's a witness in one of our old cases and a self-proclaimed "mover and shaker" at Podunk U's pre-law society. Our big homicide is settling, our wiretap trial will be over by fall semester, and our last big sex assault case got settled as of this week. Basically unless we get another big case, we're down to bread and butter stuff (DUI/DWAI, DV, c/s possession). How best to abuse the free labor without jeopardizing my job and instilling the "don't go no jobs die alone" outlook?
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Apr 21, 2011 19:33
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Task her with throwing out job apps/resumes.
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evilweasel posted:Task her with throwing out job apps/resumes. God drat.
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entris posted:God drat. Seriously. You should at least recycle them.
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out of curiosity, have any of the non-HLS admitted student weekends talked up a huge employment spike for the 2011 2L summer? HLS had some interesting data on just how bad 2L hiring became from 07-10, but they didn't have actual data for 2011 2L employment, aside from claims of a potential 30%~ increase from 2011. I'm wondering if there's any actual validity to these claims, if it's HYS-only, or if there's a real, discernible T14 market recovery.
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Apr 21, 2011 20:14
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Everything you're told at admitted student weekend is a lie.
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Dallan Invictus posted:More accurately, "some people don't have jobs after graduation but still have to pay six figures worth of money that in the best case, could have gone somewhere more useful to them and, in the worst case, they don't have at all," but hey, don't let that stop you! I finished two days ago and am definitely unemployed  Applied for a pretty sweet gig today - $45k and 8:30-5:00 hours. Can't say it was worth drat near six figure debt, though.
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diospadre posted:Everything you're told at admitted student weekend is a lie. sure, but if there's any consistency to these claims across the various schools, I'll at least be more inclined to believe them. also they were extremely forthcoming with data about how the market trouble had impacted HLS, and what this meant for 2L summer positions, and it was pretty dismal. They didn't hide the fact that everything had gone severely downhill, so I at least give them some benefit of the doubt. It's not like Cooley claiming 95% employment or whatever.
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I mean this with no sarcasm at all: thanks for the real talk about the BU/BC move.
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