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babies havin rabies posted:Oh come on now. This is totally unacceptable. Anybody with 15 minutes of spare time can look at how large the budget of the fed or any state government is and get a frame of reference. It just goes to show the extent of intellectual laziness present in this country. I can look at a federal budget of $3,500 billion and realize that any expense under $10 million is literally pocket change. Any American able to do 4th grade math should be able to figure out that those numbers can be reduced down into proportions which are relative. if you had $3,500 in your checking account, would an expense of $0.003 to learn about bear DNA be significant at all? If you consider yourself an intelligent person and if you want to live in an intelligent nation, you need to stop giving our countrymen the benefit of the doubt and an excuse to blind themselves through willful ignorance. I agree with what you're saying but I don't think it matters. They don't look it up because they don't want the real answer. It's inconsequential to them. They just want to voice an opinion that "their team" believes in. If you came to them and told them this, they would just ignore it and call you a name or something. I know this was probably posted in other threads, but it's basically these people in a nutshell. http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/ miasmata posted:But they really don't like Chu, because he's very big on green energy and conservation, so they're pretty big on defunding DOE due to that. They don't really care if bad nukes are a side-effect it seems. They just want to oppose. Reminds me of an e-mail I got a few years back from a friend. It was a typical forward but it was about some "Earth Hour". Apparently cities were going to be turning off unnecessary lights for an hour. Sort of a eco-thing to draw attention to waste and the environment. Not a huge deal to most, but this e-mailer thought it was. It talked about how this "Earth Hour" was the start of some bigger plan to force us to go hours a day without power. You can throw in all the liberal, tree-hugger, pinko, commie, stuff that is prevelant in any topic concerning the environment. Then it asked for everyone to consume as much power as they could during this hour. Basically turn on all your appliances, lights, etc. This e-mail bothered me more than most. That someone was that delusional that they would actively run as much power as they could because they didn't like others conserving. What kind of loving person thinks like that? The e-mail originated from a comapny e-mail address. So I went to their site, copy-pasted every e-mail I could find under their management/board of directors section. Then I replied to him and told him he was a loving moron and CC'd every e-mail I could find on the website. Didn't hear anything back from it but figured they would like to see the crap being sent out from their corporate e-mail accounts. Niwrad fucked around with this message at 10:24 on Apr 22, 2011 |
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Niwrad posted:It talked about how this "Earth Hour" was the start of some bigger plan to force us to go hours a day without power. You can throw in all the liberal, tree-hugger, pinko, commie, stuff that is prevelant in any topic concerning the environment. Nah, liberals don't need waste their time with that - conservatives and their energy market deregulation policies can give us all the rolling blackouts we need! Niwrad posted:This e-mail bothered me more than most. That someone was that delusional that they would actively run as much power as they could because they didn't like others conserving. What kind of loving person thinks like that? What kind of person, indeed.
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I think this is probably my favorite thread. I'm kind of dissapointed that I responded to the last few of my brother's crazy e-mails because he no longer sends me any material to post here. 
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People quite simply do not think. People on a gated internet community discussing politics with pretty strict rules of conduct (for the internet) are not representative of most people. Most people don't think about things, they just react based on pre-formed opinions that they acquired years or decades ago. It happens to everyone eventually, even people who are very introspective. Sometimes your reaction just slips by the pre-frontal cortex and you act or speak without thinking. I'm one of those people who believe that the vast majority of humanity has the capacity to think clearly and make good decisions, but most people either never learned how, are too lazy, just don't care, or all of the above. Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Apr 23, 2011 |
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The formatting is the best part. I tried to recreate it as best I could, but imagine the text size getting up to size 26 at some points (like every mentioning of the DoE):Crazy forwarded e-mail posted:This is Absolutely The funniest joke ever.........
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If it weren't for the strawman at the end they might have achieved in making a point that the DoE hasn't lessened US dependance on foreign oil. Of course, it wouldn't be such a genius and insightful email if the criticism of the DoE couldn't be applied to every action of government, ever. It's almost like we've all become as sensationalist as the media.
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Also note that most US nuclear weapons are under the control of the DoE, so dismantling it would still pass on the cost of the weapons to some other agency.
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I know this was mentioned a few pages back, but people always make this inane argument:quote:Iraq, currently occupied by US forces, has $15 trillion in oil reserves, second behind only Saudi Arabia, said Trump. This is a terribly thought out argument. The United States doesn't pump oil. Oil companies do. The oil belongs to Iraq. Oil companies would have to buy land, contracts, etc. from Iraq. Those companies won't pay taxes, to either the US or Iraq. The US won't see a penny. I feel like a lot of people aren't familiar with the whole "US fucks poor country over -> companies profit" cycle.
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What I'm taking away from Trump's comment is that we ought to nationalize our oil industry. I think that's a solid plan.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:What I'm taking away from Trump's comment is that we ought to nationalize our oil industry. I think that's a solid plan. How would that even work?
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crime fighting hog posted:How would that even work? Look, it's Trump's idea, not mine.
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crime fighting hog posted:How would that even work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvqRCv-DwME#t=10m55s
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Aeka 2.0 posted:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvqRCv-DwME#t=10m55s Now I have to watch these, too? poo poo...
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Not an email, but on a Facebook chain with some in-laws. I have finally broken. It was in response to this: http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-17350-9_things_the_rich_dont_want_you_to_know_about_taxes.htmlfacebook posted:OK...here is an excerpt from Real Clear Markets defining exactly how much 'taxing the rich' would produce in revenue. I can not leave it, but I am much too angry to even form a response that is rational at this point. Can anyone help out?
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Confused deficit with the debt Doesn't understand inflation or population growth Doesn't understand that the growth in the deficit since Obama took place has more to do with reduced revenue rather than increased spend Doesn't understand that much of the rest of the deficit is due to defense spending: we have 2.5 wars. And we cannot abandon them in 12 seconds, which means that will take a while -- not that these people think about that, they're concerned with social programs that consist of .1% of spending. I'd just leave it though, these people are just too far gone. Though I might point out that they don't know the difference between the deficit and debt.
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quote:There is one key difference. No other president came close to collecting more taxes than George Bush, nor did any ask the rich to carry as large a percentage of the nation's total tax burden. And he did that despite, and some say because, he lowered marginal tax rates. Oddly enough, I don't recall the rich doing that much complaining. Perhaps they were too busy growing the economy. what
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Yeah if you libs are so smart then why don't you tell me why the rich didn't complain about having their income taxes lowered?
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Just got this one, which is pretty racist:Girlfriend's Dad's Best Friend posted:
I responded with this: Do you feel the same about these people?  
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Corbet posted:Just got this one, which is pretty racist: How much you wanna bet he'll say those presidents were almost as bad as Obama?
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crime fighting hog posted:How much you wanna bet he'll say those presidents were almost as bad as Obama? He loved Bush and thinks Sarah Palin would make a great president.
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Or this rear end in a top hat I'd bet money there's a photo of Reagan with feet up too, but I can't find it.
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Apr 25, 2011 01:21
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Corbet posted:Earned privilege. Heh.
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nm posted:I'd bet money there's a photo of Reagan with feet up too, but I can't find it. Looking for it led me here: http://4thlord.com/ I don't know what to think anymore.
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Corbet posted:Just got this one, which is pretty racist: Besides this, czars, teleprompters, vacations, and the First Lady championing some cause, what other things do people use as demerits against Obama despite literally every other president doing them? Sometimes I think that reason that conservative criticism of Obama is completely bullshit-based is that they know it will cause liberals who are unhappy with him to defend his terrible policies.
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Dr Christmas posted:Sometimes I think that reason that conservative criticism of Obama is completely bullshit-based is that they know it will cause liberals who are unhappy with him to defend his terrible policies. No, it's cus he's black.
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crime fighting hog posted:Looking for it led me here: http://4thlord.com/ Scene: Midnight Snack posted:Nighttime in the house of the Fourth Moon. REAGAN rises from behind his bongo desk, looking tired. wearing nightcape(!), Nancy is naked on the floor behind him. THERE is an animal/human on the floor across the stage, people are wrapping it in tinfoil, stuffing cornbread in its mouth. He is Hungry. He puts on his skis and goggles & shuffles out from behind the desk. There is a stirring of his dancers but they stay put. Moving toward the meat he removes a ski-pole from his pants. He is feeling guilty but he knows what is best for both him and the meat. He does not fear his guilt. The MEAT wont last long in this condition anyway. 
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Orange Devil posted:No, it's cus he's black. Really, I think I'd respect them more if they'd just come out and say it. At least then they'd be honest. Still ignorant and actively working against their own interest because gently caress the poors, but then at least we'd all know where we stand.
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ClosedBSD posted:His "Grady for President" video is like if he took every racist email and smashed it all into one speech Holy poo poo "reeducation" camps for blacks!
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Dr Christmas posted:Besides this, czars, teleprompters, vacations, and the First Lady championing some cause, what other things do people use as demerits against Obama despite literally every other president doing them? My father-in-law regularly brings up Obama bowing to the king of Saudi Arabia. I've already explained that there are pictures of a half-dozen presidents doing that for that very same king, and that it's traditional to show respect to foreign heads of state in their preferred mode, and he acknowledges it every time, and he still brings it up.
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Here's one you can circulate to your conservative friends: The Reagan by Frank Jacobs Once upon a cold November, back in `80, you'll remember, Came to pass a great election, with a wondrous change in store; By a landslide, one was winning, promising a new beginning; Tall and proud, he stood there, grinning, like so many times before; Who was he, this cool one, grinning, like so many times before? 'Twas The Reagan, nothing more. Once he was inaugurated, Reaganomics he created, Promising a balanced budget, like we had in days of yore; "Though," he said, "our debt is growing, and a bundle we are owing, "I'll cut taxes, 'cause I'm knowing this will save us bucks galore;" "Please explain," a newsman asked, "how will this save us bucks galore?" Quoth The Reagan, "Less is more." Pushing for defense, he pleaded, brand-new missiles would be needed: "That's the only way," he said, "to keep the country out of war;" "True," he said, "they're not required, and they're not meant to be fired; "In five years they'll be retired--still we must build hundreds more;" "Tell us why," a newsman asked, "we must be building hundreds more?" Quoth The Reagan, "Jobs galore." Was he real or from a movie? "Make my day" sure sounded groovy, Standing up to Congress or the rebels in El Salvador; Flicks like "Rambo" he promoted (sev'ral times, it should be noted); Once John Wayne he even quoted, when Kaddafi threatened war; "Does this mean," a newsman asked, "we're heading toward a Mid-East war?" Quoth The Reagan, "Hit the shore." During times he wasn't dozing, many plans he was proposing, Dealing with the deficit, which he no longer could ignore; "Cuts," he said, "I'm recommending, pending our ascending spending, "With attending trends suspending, then extending as before." "Does this mean," a newsman asked, "a balanced budget like before?" Quoth The Reagan, "Nevermore!"
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Facebook Post posted:Seems like the only change we have seen from Obama and his administration have been the gas prices from $1.84 to a national average of $3.86 LoL a health and immigration bill that never passed and twice the amount of troops in Afghanistan. Yeah, if you compare the cheapest station in America on November 1st 2008 to the average price today then it's going to be a lot higher. Why don't you compare the national average then to the national average now? Oh, because it's not as strong of a point when the difference is $1.40 instead of $2.02.
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Corbet posted:"he problem with public housing is that the residents are not the owners. This is pretty much a rant against the concept of rental, period. Although I'd imagine he associates renting with young people and immoral hedonistic unbanites, so go figure.
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:This is pretty much a rant against the concept of rental, period.
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PsychoInternetHawk posted:This is pretty much a rant against the concept of rental, period. Yeah, somehow I really doubt he thinks the same about people who live in an apartment as he does about people who live in (dun dun DUNNNNN) PUBLIC HOUSING. I'm surprised he didn't fit the term "the projects" in there somewhere.
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Defenestration posted:Basically, only property owners are worthwhile Perhaps they should be the only ones allowed to vote?
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nm posted:Confused deficit with the debt Luckily for me someone else jumped in and has been trying (futilely) to debate him. Has been an entertaining read, and quite the exercise in personal restraint. He has now gone on to talk about how Obama is waging class warfare against the rich (in the same paragraph that he explains he is not wealthy) and that if he thinks the wealthy should pay more taxes then he should just move to Cuba. Also Bush collected more from the wealthy than any other president, and Reagan was responsible for the Clinton administrations good parts and raised tax revenue more than any president by closing loopholes while lowering taxes.
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Corbet posted:Just got this one, which is pretty racist: I guess FDR is his favorite president than.
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crime fighting hog posted:Looking for it led me here: http://4thlord.com/ I didn't think people this crazy could write html.
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