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Asbury
Mar 23, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 6 years!
Hair Elf

shinanaitako posted:

I've read most of King's books by now, and I'd have to say the one that I had most trouble going through was Hearts in Atlantis. The first story was great, but the rest were just too.. 'normal'.

Oddly enough, Low Men in Yellow Coats was my least favorite in that collection. The others are an indictment of the Baby Boomers, while that one is--like so much of his later work--shoehorned into the Dark Tower. Thematically it doesn't fit at all, unless he's trying to show how people become what they become in middle age.

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Cityinthesea
Aug 7, 2009

Ensign_Ricky posted:

Jacket art for 11-23-63's been released:


FIRST LADY ALSO OK! cracks me up for some reason.

I don't get why the front picture is in color and the back picture is not, but I'm psyched about this; this sounds the most science fictiony he's ever been and I'm interested to see what happens with it.

brylcreem
Oct 29, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Cityinthesea posted:

I don't get why the front picture is in color and the back picture is not,

Talking out of my rear end: Maybe because it was more expensive to print color newspapers and they saved it for the really, really important news. (*)

JFK alive < JFK dead?

I just finished The Stand mini-series. My god, Stephen King is a lousy actor, and the "special" effects are just that.

But all in all, it's a decent way to spend a couple of nights. There are some short cuts and changes of course, but the basic premise is there. Harold Lauder is horribly miscast, though.

For a Stephen King fan like myself, it's a solid 7/10. Casual viewers is around 5-6/10, I would think.

(*): Or maybe the publisher wanted some color on the front of the book?

brylcreem fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 23, 2011

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
The early Bachman books were set in an alternate history.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
This is pretty cool!

http://www.liljas-library.com/article.php?id=2310&ref=rss

Bardem nails 'Tower' saga

Javier Bardem has officially signed an epic deal to star in the movie and TV adaptations of Stephen King's "Dark Tower" book series. The Oscar-winning actor will play Roland Deschain in the eagerly awaited Ron Howard and Brian Grazer adaptation of King's beloved seven-novel saga. It's a momentous deal because each of the three movies in the series is to be followed by a TV miniseries. A well-placed source confirmed to Page Six, "Bardem has signed on to the first movie and the miniseries, but the intention is that he will star in all three movies and each of the TV series. It's an enormous deal for any actor, but Bardem was always the first choice." The story follows "Gunslinger" Deschain as he travels through an Old West-like landscape in search of the mythical Dark Tower to save civilization. The first movie is expected to go into production in September with Howard directing.

shinanaitako
Apr 23, 2011

Hedrigall posted:

Bardem nails 'Tower' saga
Unexpectedly good scruffy man choice.

Greggy
Apr 14, 2007

Hands raw with high fives.
Yeah, that is actually a pretty great choice. Makes me wonder who else they will be able to get.

April
Jul 3, 2006


I'm just not sold on Bardem as Roland. I believe that he has the acting skills, but something about his look just doesn't work for me. I can't put my finger on it, though. Maybe I just always pictured Roland looking scrawnier?

Also, if anyone is interested, I just found this new short story by Stephen King:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/05/herman-wouk-is-still-alive/8451

yo mamma a Horus
Apr 7, 2008

Nap Ghost
Maybe because when people seem to depict Roland, he looks like Clint Eastwood. At least, from what I have seen!

Though, I think Bardem should be loving excellent.

HorseHeadBed
May 6, 2009

VideoTapir posted:

The early Bachman books were set in an alternate history.

Is this something King himself has stated, or just your interpretation? I don't really see anything in the early Bachman books that smacks of alternate timelines. Rage, Thinner and Roadwork are all standard works of fiction, The Running Man is clearly set in the future (at least the future from the time it was written) and while The Long Walk could be construed as an alternative present, it seems kind of timeless.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

HorseHeadBed posted:

Is this something King himself has stated, or just your interpretation? I don't really see anything in the early Bachman books that smacks of alternate timelines. Rage, Thinner and Roadwork are all standard works of fiction, The Running Man is clearly set in the future (at least the future from the time it was written) and while The Long Walk could be construed as an alternative present, it seems kind of timeless.

I have a vague recollection of mentions of historical events that were different from actual events. I think there was mention of a Nazi invasion of the east coast or something like that.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

VideoTapir posted:

I have a vague recollection of mentions of historical events that were different from actual events. I think there was mention of a Nazi invasion of the east coast or something like that.

In which book? I never saw that in Thinner or Roadwork or Rage and I'd also always assumed Long Walk was near future.

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
There was a Nazi (not-see) fighter plane that slipped out of our world (or another one, idk) and into Midworld where it was re-branded by some duke or baron who then proceeded to crash it. I think Jake found it outside of Lud with the leader guy's sigil peeling off of the swastika on the wing. My memory of this is vague and I thought perhaps there was even an illustration, but now I think my young brain just imagined one.

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

JustFrakkingDoIt posted:

There was a Nazi (not-see) fighter plane that slipped out of our world (or another one, idk) and into Midworld where it was re-branded by some duke or baron who then proceeded to crash it. I think Jake found it outside of Lud with the leader guy's sigil peeling off of the swastika on the wing. My memory of this is vague and I thought perhaps there was even an illustration, but now I think my young brain just imagined one.

Nope, that's it in a nutshell. Even got the picture thing, it's at the start of that section of The Waste Lands.

mith
Sep 30, 2003
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Can they just leave the last two books out of the dark tower movie/tv series? Please?

I wish he'd just never come back to the series instead of that butcher job.

I still haven't read The Dark Tower and never will. Luckily a friend of mine read it first. I accept that I am better off without any resolution.

He took the only writing he'd ever done that I actually enjoyed, ripped it apart, shat on it, wiped his rear end with the poo poo covered pages, pissed all over it and set it on fire. That was my childhood you just destroyed!

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003

it wasn't that bad

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

mith posted:

I still haven't read The Dark Tower and never will. Luckily a friend of mine read it first. I accept that I am better off without any resolution.

I also am in this situation, except the friend was exhorting me to read it.

Is the last book at least better than Song of Susannah?

Malaleb
Dec 1, 2008

VideoTapir posted:

I also am in this situation, except the friend was exhorting me to read it.

Is the last book at least better than Song of Susannah?

Yes. There were parts of it I really didn't like, but as a whole, its a much better book.

Greggy
Apr 14, 2007

Hands raw with high fives.
I wonder if the movies/miniseries will include the new book that's supposed to be in the pipeline.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

VideoTapir posted:

Is the last book at least better than Song of Susannah?

It was King trying his hardest to write himself out of the multiple corners he'd written himself in to. When compared with what got us there directly (the previous two books), it's a huge improvement, but it's still pretty bad when compared to the first four books.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I thought the last book did have some really wonderfully written scenes in it.

The deaths of Eddie, Jake, and Oy, the attack on the prison, and the part with the giant underground worm.

Also I thought the ending was as good as anything that could have possibly served as an ending for a series such as the Dark Tower.

Whargoul
Dec 4, 2010

No, Babou, that was all sarcasm.
YES, ALL OF IT, YOU FOX-EARED ASSHOLE!

Chairman Capone posted:

I thought the last book did have some really wonderfully written scenes in it.

The deaths of Eddie, Jake, and Oy, the attack on the prison, and the part with the giant underground worm.

Also I thought the ending was as good as anything that could have possibly served as an ending for a series such as the Dark Tower.

I agree. There were many things I am disappointed with in the last few books, but I can't say that I ever wanted to wipe my rear end with them, or that they ruined my childhood.

I read The Gunslinger when I was eleven years old, and even if it didn't end the way I hoped it would, I for one am glad that it did end, and I don't know how else it could have ended.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Chairman Capone posted:

I thought the last book did have some really wonderfully written scenes in it.

The deaths of Eddie, Jake, and Oy, the attack on the prison, and the part with the giant underground worm.

Also I thought the ending was as good as anything that could have possibly served as an ending for a series such as the Dark Tower.

I would have liked the death of Eddie more if it had come from nowhere instead of being ridiculously and stupidly foreshadowed a few pages previous

Ensign_Ricky
Jan 4, 2008

Daddy Warlord
of the
Children of the Corn


or something...

Rev. Bleech_ posted:

I would have liked the death of Eddie more if it had come from nowhere instead of being ridiculously and stupidly foreshadowed a few pages previous

edit: nm, misremembered the picture in question.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

Duma Key.

I've probably read half of King's books, most of them from the glorious booze and coke years. I liked the premise of Duma Key. I got stuck about 75 pages in. I read the spoilers. Whoa, that does sound interesting. I will continue because it's going to get good. It didn't. I stopped at 175 pages in. I just couldn't do it. It bored me silly.

I finished Rose Madder, Bag of Bones, Desperation, and The Regulators. I liked Dolores Claiborne. I couldn't finish Duma Key.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Duma Key.

I've probably read half of King's books, most of them from the glorious booze and coke years. I liked the premise of Duma Key. I got stuck about 75 pages in. I read the spoilers. Whoa, that does sound interesting. I will continue because it's going to get good. It didn't. I stopped at 175 pages in. I just couldn't do it. It bored me silly.

I finished Rose Madder, Bag of Bones, Desperation, and The Regulators. I liked Dolores Claiborne. I couldn't finish Duma Key.

I was the exact opposite. I really didn't care about the lamp monster, I wanted more elderly retirees struggling with crippling disabilities and piecing together their ruined lives.

shinanaitako
Apr 23, 2011

RC and Moon Pie posted:

Duma Key.

I've probably read half of King's books, most of them from the glorious booze and coke years. I liked the premise of Duma Key. I got stuck about 75 pages in. I read the spoilers. Whoa, that does sound interesting. I will continue because it's going to get good. It didn't. I stopped at 175 pages in. I just couldn't do it. It bored me silly.

I finished Rose Madder, Bag of Bones, Desperation, and The Regulators. I liked Dolores Claiborne. I couldn't finish Duma Key.
To be honest, I had trouble with Duma Key at first as well. But I continued on, and it reeled my in, like most every Stephen King book has done.

Quantify!
Apr 3, 2009

by Fistgrrl

...of SCIENCE! posted:

I was the exact opposite. I really didn't care about the lamp monster, I wanted more elderly retirees struggling with crippling disabilities and piecing together their ruined lives.
Are we talking about Insomnia here?

Man boy howdy, nothing like pages and pages of some old guy looking for Pop Tarts or Metamucil to really draw you into a story.

It's hard to believe how much bad fiction I read as a kid solely because it was a Stephen King story.

ZoDiAC_
Jun 23, 2003

Insomnia is awesome

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Quantify! posted:

Are we talking about Insomnia here?

Man boy howdy, nothing like pages and pages of some old guy looking for Pop Tarts or Metamucil to really draw you into a story.

It's hard to believe how much bad fiction I read as a kid solely because it was a Stephen King story.

I meant Duma Key, aside from a few nightmares and flashbacks the first 80% of the book is about Edgar Freemantle trying to piece together his life and finding meaning through a talent in art he's suppressed his whole life. Then in the very end it's like he realized he needed a villain so an evil lamp doll shows up. Admittedly, I'm a little biased because I live and grew up in Florida, but I also liked that for once he wrote a novel that wasn't set in Maine.

I did like Insomnia too, though. Nearly every book King writes has a protagonist that's roughly the same age as he was when he wrote it and is often a writer to boot, so him going out of his way to make the protagonist and elderly retiree added a little something different.

Kruller
Feb 20, 2004

It's time to restore dignity to the Farnsworth name!

ZoDiAC_ posted:

Insomnia is awesome

Insomnia is my favorite book of his, if only because it has an ending that is an actual ending. Most of his books end like he ran out of stuff to say, but Insomnia felt like it built up to that conclusion. I believe he's said that it is his least favorite book, because he didn't like how he went about writing it, but I think he should do that more often, so his books don't end like a bad turd.

CobwebMustardseed
Apr 8, 2011

And some said he would just be a shell of his former self upon his return.
I am jaw-on-the-floor stunned at how many of you guys liked Under the Dome. Never have I been more pissed off/disappointed in the ending of a book than I was at the end of that one. I read it over the course of about two days while I was sick in bed, so I was about as absorbed in the story as is possible. And, yes, as many people have stated in this thread, Big Jim Rennie was a truly loathsome villain. Which is why I was so eager for him to get his comeuppance and furious when it never really came. The worst punishment I could imagine for Jim Rennie would be to have the dome lift and to have him exposed for the lying, evil bastard that he is. Show the town and the whole world what he truly is and make him suffer through every minute of his humiliation. We come so close, so many different times in that novel to someone revealing his true colors to the town, but it never happens. And it ends up not mattering anyway, because every one in the town dies in the last fifty pages of that book. Arrrrgh. After trudging through so much detail and so many insignificant scenes, there is just so little pay off. It killed me.

That book ruined my faith in Stephen King. But maybe if I just go back and read 'Salem's Lot and The Shining (his two best, in my opinion) again, I'll forgive him.

hatelull
Oct 29, 2004

CobwebMustardseed posted:

pissed off/disappointed in the ending of a book than I was at the end of that one.


I enjoyed the book up until the last portion of that final act, and at that point I am completely on board with this sentiment. It's certainly not the worst ending to a King book (Cell, The Stand, that book where the girl gets shot for no good reason at the end of the book, <insert your favorite here>) can take that title. However, like you I wanted to see the dome lifted and the real world roll back into the town. Instead we got a nasty Firepocalypse, an anti-climatic end to both dad and son, and some vague stuff about aliens. He could have at least afforded us a reach around in the shape of a victory lap.

Leovinus
Apr 28, 2005

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Under The Dome was a book I felt didn't need an amazing final act. Yeah, I'd have liked to see a more satisfying end for Big Jim, and it does have a bit of an out-of-nowhere resolution for the nature of the Dome itself, but I was more interested in the journey than the destination. I liked watching the town turn to poo poo so much I didn't really care that it didn't have a particularly astonishing ending.

SlightButSteady
Sep 13, 2007

Soiled Meat

Leovinus posted:

Under The Dome was a book I felt didn't need an amazing final act. Yeah, I'd have liked to see a more satisfying end for Big Jim, and it does have a bit of an out-of-nowhere resolution for the nature of the Dome itself, but I was more interested in the journey than the destination. I liked watching the town turn to poo poo so much I didn't really care that it didn't have a particularly astonishing ending.

I tend to agree. The main theme for me was despair that got worse and worse, and I found it interesting the way the characters didn't react the way I wanted them to.

To bring despair to the books conclusion I thought that seeing that the outside world was their salvation away from the dome - and just as, or more importantly, away from Big Jim Rennie - it could conclude that it was there to protect them from a massive meteor bombardment that wipes out most of the Earth. Meaning they may have to live inside of the dome for the rest of their lives.

I don't know if that's corny, but I started second guessing the ending when everyone was seeing the "pink trails" and thinking that was a forewarning of what was to come. When the ending came, I was a bit disappointed.


Also Bruce Spence is totally the Chef.

Raunchy
Jan 22, 2011

I hated The Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon

ass is hometown
Jan 11, 2006

I gotta take a leak. When I get back, we're doing body shots.

Raunchy posted:

I hated The Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon

cool story bro.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
There's a reason it's called Under the Dome and not Escape From the Dome :colbert:

Raunchy posted:

I hated The Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon

The Guy Who Hates The Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon :xd:

Yancy_Street
Nov 26, 2007

drunk octopus
wants to fight you

...of SCIENCE! posted:

There's a reason it's called Under the Dome and not Escape From the Dome :colbert:


The Guy Who Hates The Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon :xd:

I Am Indifferent About the Guy Who Hates the Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon(or IAIAGWHGWLTG for short).

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Sep 28, 2004

Asphalt Engine posted:

I Am Indifferent About the Guy Who Hates the Girl Who Loves Tom Gordon(or IAIAGWHGWLTG for short).

I am Tom Gordon.

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