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Save me jeebus posted:I made a client cry today. It was awesome. I foresee a healty family law practice in your future....
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Solomon Grundy posted:I foresee a healty family law practice in your future.... gently caress. Family law you don't even have to try. They walk in the door and they start bawling. Kind of takes the sport out of it.
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May 3, 2011 05:08
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Save me jeebus posted:I made a client cry today. It was awesome. I had a client hug me today. That doesn't happen much.
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May 3, 2011 05:35
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Solomon Grundy posted:I foresee a healty family law practice in your future.... nm posted:I had a client hug me today. That doesn't happen much. Happens to me more often than I'd like... I think I prefer the crying.
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May 3, 2011 13:20
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Save me jeebus posted:The closest to that I'll get is when I file my divorce petition this week. Dang, was there another Bar failure?
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May 3, 2011 13:55
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diospadre posted:Dang, was there another Bar failure?
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May 3, 2011 18:52
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(Did a Google and thread-search to see if anyone posted this link already.) This is for all of us 1Ls who are taking a Con Law final soon... http://joshblackman.com/blog/?p=4407 quote:HLS Flashback from 1900: Student goes insane during Con Law Final, Dies from “Overstudy” 
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May 3, 2011 19:21
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diospadre posted:Dang, was there another Bar failure? No; one too many arguments that he tried to win by saying, "Well, I'm the one with a JD; you dropped out  ".And other E/N stuff.
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May 3, 2011 19:22
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I had to tell someone today that his mother had specifically excluded him from her will. He cried as I read the pertinent section out loud.
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May 3, 2011 20:21
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Save me jeebus posted:No; one too many arguments that he tried to win by saying, "Well, I'm the one with a JD; you dropped out
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May 3, 2011 20:35
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hey really sorry jebus genuinely hope this is for the best
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May 3, 2011 20:45
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Cortina posted:I had to tell someone today that his mother had specifically excluded him from her will. He cried as I read the pertinent section out loud. Interesting. I usually tell clients that they should communicate that sort of thing ahead of time, because it staves off litigation over the issue at their death. Some clients, however, are in situations where disclosure of the disownment would be seriously detrimental. Within the bounds of what you're allowed to disclosed, I'd like to hear some more of the story. nm posted:Learned a lesson did we? Don't date (or, jesus, marry) lawyers/law students. Too soon, eh?
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May 3, 2011 20:56
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Save me jeebus posted:No; one too many arguments that he tried to win by saying, "Well, I'm the one with a JD; you dropped out Oops. Sorry, didn't mean to pick a scab!
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May 3, 2011 21:18
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Today is my last day of law school classes. Last exam in 9 days. Graduation in 18 days. Bar review course begins in 21 days. Gotta cash in those Lexis and Westlaw points while I still can. Also shouldn't have taken that fedcourts class.
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May 3, 2011 23:27
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Any law goons in Chicago know someone who's leaving for the summer, and might be looking for a sublettor? I would need it from about June 1 to August 15th or so. I'd prefer to be downtown, but any place that's close to public transportation that can get me downtown would also be acceptable.
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May 3, 2011 23:28
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entris posted:Too soon, eh? Never too soon to joke about how we lawyers are broken humans.
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May 3, 2011 23:37
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qwertyman posted:Also shouldn't have taken that fedcourts class. Just got out of the final for this. I dunno, after today and not doing that hot I really wish I'd have taken Corporate Finance or a class outside of the law school instead even though I kinda dug the material.
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sigmachiev posted:Just got out of the final for this. I dunno, after today and not doing that hot I really wish I'd have taken Corporate Finance or a class outside of the law school instead even though I kinda dug the material. gently caress I have to take fed courts next year...do you have a good hornbook to recommend?
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May 3, 2011 23:59
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The last time I made a client cry was when I told her that it would not be a good use of her time to send an ambulance over to her ex's house to have the paramedics ensure that his child safety seat was correctly installed.
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May 4, 2011 00:20
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I got a critique of a seminar paper rough draft that was longer than the paper itself. gently caress seminars.
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May 4, 2011 00:28
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nm posted:Learned a lesson did we? Don't date (or, jesus, marry) lawyers/law students. He wasn't either of those when we got moved in together or even by the time we married. But law school/aftermath definitely exacerbated some parts of his personality that before I'd have called "quirky," but now that I'd call "loving insane." Feces Starship posted:hey really sorry jebus genuinely
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May 4, 2011 01:01
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The Warszawa posted:gently caress I have to take fed courts next year...do you have a good hornbook to recommend? Chemerinsky's Federal Jurisdiction ought to cover you; use a serious Con Law treatise (Tribe or something) if you want to gun hard. Fed Courts is hard because of how tough the curve is, not necessarily the material, in my opinion. Law review/clerkship types are heavily over-represented, as are people who did really well in Civ Pro. You're also at Yale IIRC, so what could you possibly be worried about?
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entris posted:Interesting. I usually tell clients that they should communicate that sort of thing ahead of time, because it staves off litigation over the issue at their death. Some clients, however, are in situations where disclosure of the disownment would be seriously detrimental. Mom has three adult children. Two of the children do not get along with the third child. I assume Mom doesn't either, but I'm not sure. At some point, a will that included all three of the children was replaced with the current will that specifically excludes the third heir and leaves everything to the other two. Mom died a few months ago, and the two heirs under the will want to sell her house. Title company refers me the file. My original plan was to do an affidavit of heirship, but because that would mean all three heirs inherit equally, that's not going to work. I tell the client that we are going to have to do a full probate, and to please bring me the original will. They can't find the original will. They have one crappy copy. In Texas, if you go to probate with a copy of a will, you have to notify all of the heirs at law, either by formally serving them or by getting them to sign a waiver of formal citation and having them agree that the copy of the will should be admitted for independent administration as if it were an original. I was told that Heir #3 had in fact received his cut of the money before Mom's death, and it would be no surprise that he wasn't in the will. The other heirs also admit to me that they do not get along with their brother, don't have a phone number for him, etc. I manage to track down an address and send Heir #3 all of the statutorily required stuff - copy of will, copy of probate application, etc. Today, Heir #3 calls me because he doesn't understand what I've sent him. A few minutes into the conversation I realize that the other heirs weren't being totally straight with me - this guy had no idea that a)Mom had done a new will and b)he was explicitly shut out of it. Cue the crying. He asked me if signing the waiver I sent him would mean that he wouldn't inherit anything, and I said, yes, by signing the waiver you are agreeing that the copy of the will should be probated as it stands. He asked what his options were, and I said that he needed to retain counsel to help him with that, as I represent Mom's Estate and can't provide him with any guidance. I called my clients, Heir #2, back, to tell her that we certainly aren't going to Probate Court next week, or possibly in the foreseeable future, and she screamed at me for telling her brother he should obtain legal representation. I certainly wish Mom had done what you suggest, because it sure would have saved a lot of time today. I also wish the heirs had managed to find the original will, because then I wouldn't have had to deal with all of this.
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Bathing Jesus posted:Chemerinsky's Federal Jurisdiction ought to cover you; use a serious Con Law treatise (Tribe or something) if you want to gun hard. Fed Courts is hard because of how tough the curve is, not necessarily the material, in my opinion. Law review/clerkship types are heavily over-represented, as are people who did really well in Civ Pro. You're also at Yale IIRC, so what could you possibly be worried about? My fed courts was packed with LR people and top of the class...not many other people willing to take an EIGHT AM class that lasts for 2.5 hours and is taught by a federal judge. It's a good class though imho and the material isn't ball-bustingly hard if you're decent at civ pro and con law (national powers not individual rights) when you come in. I used Chemerinsky's Fed Jur a little bit while studying and I got an A for what that's worth.
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Bathing Jesus posted:Chemerinsky's Federal Jurisdiction ought to cover you; use a serious Con Law treatise (Tribe or something) if you want to gun hard. Fed Courts is hard because of how tough the curve is, not necessarily the material, in my opinion. Law review/clerkship types are heavily over-represented, as are people who did really well in Civ Pro. You're also at Yale IIRC, so what could you possibly be worried about? Exactly this. The material is Con Law meets Civ Pro and the doctrinal stuff isn't that tough to get or make an argument for, but it's designed for people who want to clerk which are going to be the gunners. We actually used Chemerinsky as one of two assigned books, but we weren't allowed to use it on the final, which made little sense because he explicitly encouraged citing the squib cases from it. I walked into the test with a three page table of authority with a one sentence description of what went on that I'll have to upload to our DropBox because it was easily the most helpful thing I did (not that it mattered because I don't feel great about how it went).
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May 4, 2011 01:52
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I just took my final final. Roger_Mudd, J.D.
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Save me jeebus posted:He wasn't either of those when we got moved in together or even by the time we married. But law school/aftermath definitely exacerbated some parts of his personality that before I'd have called "quirky," but now that I'd call "loving insane." My condolences. I'm sure not having to deal with his debt albatross probably helps, too!
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May 4, 2011 02:53
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Roger_Mudd posted:I just took my final final. Dr. Roger_Mudd
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Save me jeebus posted:No; one too many arguments that he tried to win by saying, "Well, I'm the one with a JD; you dropped out Hi. I hear you are single and make tacos. I can pay my loans. PM me.
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May 4, 2011 07:37
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Blakkout posted:Any law goons in Chicago know someone who's leaving for the summer, and might be looking for a sublettor? I would need it from about June 1 to August 15th or so. I'd prefer to be downtown, but any place that's close to public transportation that can get me downtown would also be acceptable. PM sent! I live just north of downtown and need a subletter for exactly those dates.
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May 4, 2011 07:40
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J Miracle posted:I used Chemerinsky's Fed Jur a little bit while studying and I got an A for what that's worth. I used this too and got an A also. Best Hornbook I touched during law school, bar none. And for what it's worth, Fed. Courts has been the class most directly applicable to the shitwork I do as a first year biglaw associate. Anyhow, I have a cheap copy of Chemerinky's Fed. Jur. available. Act now and I will include copies of personal correspondence between me and Chemerinksy from during my bar study. (Seriously).
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May 4, 2011 07:41
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mrtoodles posted:PM me. Direwolf posted:PM sent! This seriously had me all exciting for a moment. Mmmmm. Tacos. gently caress you, Direwolf.
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May 4, 2011 07:45
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amishsexpot posted:all of us 1Ls Just property left (in 27 minutes). Wish me luck. Thanks for that thing btw.
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May 4, 2011 13:04
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Adar posted:My condolences. I'm sure not having to deal with his debt albatross probably helps, too! Man you have no idea. mrtoodles posted:
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May 4, 2011 13:48
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how can you PM someone a taco we need to work on this technology hopefully we can work the kinks out before lunch because I forget to bring mine and it would be really great if someone could PM me like some carnitas or something
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May 4, 2011 14:29
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J Miracle posted:how can you PM someone a taco Or, say, PM some food that actually tastes nice. Maybe a PMed eggs on toast for breakfast, or a grilled octopus for tea.
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May 4, 2011 14:40
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I am job. Bask in my glorious, semi- private PD work. Sure, I have to take two bars and not fail twice like the guy I'm replacing, but it's $10k above the salary I had when I was working before lawschool and it's a job!
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this one goes out to all the pretty lil 1Ls out there, especially the one at Fordham who thinks fashion law is A Real Thing You Doquote:I’d like to speak in defense of quitting, and quitters.
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mrtoodles posted:I used this too and got an A also. Best Hornbook I touched during law school, bar none. Omerta fucked around with this message at 00:46 on May 8, 2011 |
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Need some advice from the law goons. Skip to the bolded bit for the actual question if you don't want to read the rest of this poo poo. Here are my stats. I am 23/M, graduated in May 2010 from UNC Chapel Hill with a BA in Political Science and a 3.6 GPA. I currently work for a major insurance company as a claims manager, and make $46,000/year. I am planning on taking the LSAT in June and applying to law school in the fall. My question is about a professional designation that I have the opportunity to get in the meantime. Of course, I have not and do not plan to let my employer know that I am applying to law school until I get in and am actually set on going. Because of my performance this year, I am eligible to take online courses and get something called an Associate in Claims (AIC). It is not an associates degree--it's just a professional designation. If I do it, the company pays for the courses, I can get a $5,000 bonus, and be promoted to the next grade level which would bump me up to $55,000/year. The main reason I want to do it is to pay off all my school and auto loans before law school, which can't happen with my current money. Will getting an AIC designation in any way hurt my chances of getting into law school? Will they see it as either a "bullshit degree" (which is exactly what it is), or as me "committing" to the insurance industry, or something like that? I have heard that law schools don't like to see you spend a long time in a job, or get too involved, or something like that. Is that in any way true? Should I avoid the AIC? Fake edit: I understand that some people might be inclined to ask "why the hell are you giving up a 45K job with bonuses to get into a shitload of debt and go to law school", but I have my reasons. I have spent a VERY long time (years) coming to the decision to apply to law school, and finally am set on doing it.
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