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1) Following too close 2) Just watching the car in front, rather than ahead and to the side. 3) Went for the brakes (badly) instead of swerving right under power Looks he done hosed up.
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Spiffness posted:Whenever the shoulder allows I'll be in the left most lane on the left side of the lane, so that in a traffic situation like that I can dart up the left side of the car in front of me. If traffic comes to an abrupt stop like that I say gently caress the laws and I'll ease off into the shoulder coming to a stop next to the car that was in front of me if I have to, keeping an eye on the car behind me if I have time. If I don't have time and I need to stop so abruptly that I'm worried about hitting the car in front of me, I pretty much just assume I'm going to be rear ended and get out of the path of the car behind me regardless of if I think a crash is imminent. Like someone said, gently caress being unsheilded and waiting to get hit. If there is no shoulder, or there is a bridge, allow yourself more space, but the same strategy can be applied on the right side of the lane going into the middle, or even splitting between the guard rail and car if need be. I have had a car screech to a stop about a foot into where my bike would have been if I didn't already negate their poor driving by being two and a half feet over from where I would have laid bleeding. I came to post this, I do (and have done) the same in the past. Also, one time I was following too closely years ago and I had to emergency stop, and I did the same thing, moving off to the side of the car. I ended up about a foot past his bumper so I would have given them a good thunk. Guy on the Video: Didn't have an out, had a braking mistake that would have took more of his attention, and had some bad luck. The car hosed up major and you can't help that.
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Apr 26, 2011 03:24
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Look how heavy that traffic is right when the video starts, he had a good amount of space in front of him, i wouldn't fault him there. Also just because he locked his rear for a split second doesn't mean he broke too hard or was out of control at all. It possibly took some of his attention away though About the only thing he could've done was watch the mirrors closer once he slowed enough to not hit the car in front and moved to one side or the other. This was a lovely incident and the guy would've had to be superman to get out of it. I know I would've been pancaked as bad as this poor guy if some rear end in a top hat behind me didn't even touch the brakes in that situation
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Apr 26, 2011 05:41
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If he'd been watching the traffic ahead then he wouldn't have had to do an emergency brake when the car in front did. Then when the traffic started to slow he could've done a quick head check and changed lanes before the white truck came past, leaving the silver car to run up the arse of the car in front rather than his.
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Apr 26, 2011 05:49
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This video made CNN's front page today btw.
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Apr 26, 2011 18:45
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Oh great, I guess I can look forward to an increase in the rate of people lecturing me about how stupid my chosen hobby is. Because, you know, cars never crash.
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Apr 26, 2011 19:08
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SlightlyMadman posted:Oh great, I guess I can look forward to an increase in the rate of people lecturing me about how stupid my chosen hobby is. Because, you know, cars never crash. People never get injured when cars crash.
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Apr 26, 2011 23:43
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schreibs posted:People never get injured when cars crash. LOL, donormobiles!
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SlightlyMadman posted:LOL, donormobiles! My mother/sister/aunt/friend/whoever is a nurse...
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For those of you who aren't from the Dallas area, the tollway is insane. It is stressful to drive a car down it. I would never ever attempt to ride through it during rush hour. It is simply impossible to be cognizant enough to avoid every possible wreck. This shouldn't be a lesson of "lol dumbass not paying attention, i would have used my mirrors, bunny hopped teh median and survived. squid squid". Its a lesson teaching you to know when and where to enjoy your motorcycle. It's a shame that the thought of killing another human being isn't enough to captivate the average driver's attention, but it is what it is. Commuting on roads like that in a city like Dallas is simply pushing one's luck.
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It's funny, 5 of the 6 people I work with (counting myself) have all crashed in the past year. Two track lowsides, one mountain lowside, one street highside, and the other crash I'm not sure what happened. No one I know has even gotten a scrape or bruise. Yet I had a friend die in a car accident last year. 
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TEASE MY NECKBEARD posted:For those of you who aren't from the Dallas area, the tollway is insane. It is stressful to drive a car down it. I would never ever attempt to ride through it during rush hour. It is simply impossible to be cognizant enough to avoid every possible wreck. This isn't a fault of the tollway. This accident was caused by the person behind him not paying attention, that can happen anywhere. The rider did a LOT wrong in that clip. Let's start with: Riding in the center of the lane. Bad idea, not only does fluid and debris collect there, it means you have no out either on to the shoulder or into the split. Followed too closely, which leads into: Locked the rear brake. Obviously needs to practice braking. Locking the rear brake leads to: Failing to maintain situational awareness. If you can't snap your vision down to check your mirrors while you're braking, you need to practice more until you are comfortable with it. Failed to take into account his observations about the car that he had passed previously, the article says that he noticed they were laughing and dancing around and not paying attention. That means you should be on the extra lookout for that car, because chances are they will do something stupid. You better believe that in a situation like that, priority one is to get the hell away from any car that's not paying attention. There are half a dozen riding techniques there that could have avoided the situation by either not letting it develop in the first place, or giving the rider time to make an escape. Is anyone perfect? Absolutely not, everyone has a lapse of judgment. But if you make safe riding techniques habitual, your chances of getting blindsided by a situation like that go way down. This is also one of the reasons I'm super thankful I live in CA, where lane sharing is legal, the biggest danger to riders out there is high deltas, and lane sharing can help your minimize your time in crash zones like that.
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I was on my way to work yesterday and was going through an intersection that I had the right of way and no stop signs and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxGIYkavEo driver I guess did not see me but luckily I saw him.
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Ace944 posted:I was on my way to work yesterday and was going through an intersection that I had the right of way and no stop signs and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxGIYkavEo driver I guess did not see me but luckily I saw him.  Maybe he just really wanted to tell you to talk to the hand.
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Ace944 posted:I was on my way to work yesterday and was going through an intersection that I had the right of way and no stop signs and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxxGIYkavEo driver I guess did not see me but luckily I saw him. My name's Blinky, and I just want to be your friend.
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I did what you asked, did I do good?
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I was at the start of the roads that everyone around here comes for this weekend, ready to have a great ride. Unfortunately for me, a train of cruisers had the same idea. Around here this isn't usually an issue. Firstly, the cruisers spend most of the time parked in front of various bars and restaurants aruond the three counties. Second, obviously they're looking for a smoother scenic ride, and this ride is a lot of turns and a lot less to look at (arguable, tho you have less time to). Well, I started passing them, sometimes illegally but sensibly. I'd pass on straights where it was a double yellow but clearly there was no one coming and it was easy to do it safely. Anyone who has ridden 40 miles out from a city knows what I mean. Anyway, I'm about 15 bikes thru and getting a little tired of this, as it's taking forever to do safely because of all of the turns, and I was really trying to not be a dong. I acted like a total dong. We were coming up on a 90 degree right hander that was pretty slow because of a hard left shortly before it. I decided I was tired of waiting, and it was an area where I thought I had better visibility than I did, and I knew he'd be going slow as poo poo around that turn, so I decided to pass him in the exit of the turn. Lucky for me I was doing it slow and smooth on his left, unlucky for me there was a giant truck in the oncoming lane barreling towards me I didn't see. I had plenty of time and room to sneak back in my lane as I was only at about the double yellow, but it was still a stupid move. I should have waited for the upcoming straight with good visibility but I decided to have a little fun instead. It definitely made me take it easier the rest of the ride, after I passed the next 3 or 4 loving bikes.
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Had a nice close call this morning. Was running a bit late and riding like a total dong, important to get that out of the way. Coming up to a 4 way light with turn lanes some rear end in a top hat decides she can make it (turning left across traffic) before me and the rest of the traffic go through. This would have been fine if a)I would have been going the speed limit (riding like a dong) and b)she didn't panic and stop sideways blocking in my lane. Cue very hard braking with a quick lane check and swerving into the other lane. Missed her rear bumper by a foot or two. Way too close for comfort. Could have been prevented by slowing the gently caress down and expecting people to be complete retards. Also need to bleed my front brakes, didn't feel right under really hard braking. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 13:46 on May 6, 2011 |
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May 6, 2011 13:43
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This riding like a dong thing seems to be contagious. 
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Oddly it seems to be a part of many of the close calls, I guess I should take a lesson from this.
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nsaP posted:Oddly it seems to be a part of many of the close calls, I guess I should take a lesson from this. Same here, seems riding like a dong may be dangerous after all. Considering I've put on ~28k miles in <1.5 years of riding I have had very few close calls, especially while not riding like a dong.
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Z3n posted:Alright, let's do some crash analysis: Putting this video on my phone to use as a response whenever I get the "Why do you lane split isn't that super dangerous?" thing from non-riders.
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Z3n posted:This isn't a fault of the tollway. This accident was caused by the person behind him not paying attention, that can happen anywhere. The rider did a LOT wrong in that clip. I used to live about a block north of where that happened. I used to drive up and down that tollway a couple times a day every day. My toll bills were not fun  .Looking at the start of the video, he's not following too closely at all, especially considering moderate Dallas traffic. What he did do wrong was not pay adequate attention to traffic in front of him, which is a cardinal sin on the Dallas North Tollway. Traffic on it through Addison is absurd, and the highway is pretty narrow for the number of lanes on it. Also, that section of the DNT goes below surface level for a bit and makes a turn, so its especially sketchy. It will slow/stop suddenly and often. For panic stops like that I try to ride to the side of the lane closest to the center of the road, so I can pull up alongside the car I'm following (and let them absorb any rear-ending that would otherwise receive). Looks like the guy got really lucky with the outcome.
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Scrapez posted:That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. combine that with terrible drivers driving way too fast, hills up and down on these things, constant construction, 24hr- rush hour traffic and you have VA. see below... chryst posted:Every one of my close calls has been right here. I stay my butt away from this area at all costs. It's a deathtrap. pic is related: 
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May 19, 2011 23:27
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We prefer to say we love animals, K Thanks.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:Not that I can pick one US state from another but how do you rate one state as worst at Porn Usage - too little or too much?
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Well more reinforcement to not trust anyone on the road yesterday. Out messing around on the CRF and pull up to a stop sign. Wait a while for a break in traffic to turn left. Van with right blinker on starts slowing down so I pull out. Driver hits the ABS and is on the horn...I was a couple feet from being t-boned.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Well more reinforcement to not trust anyone on the road yesterday. Out messing around on the CRF and pull up to a stop sign. Wait a while for a break in traffic to turn left. Van with right blinker on starts slowing down so I pull out. Driver hits the ABS and is on the horn...I was a couple feet from being t-boned. You are invisible until you are about to dent their vehicle. Indicators are no indication. Brake lights are broken until they aren't. All bets are off when it comes to vans. Repeat this mantra 5 times and say a Hail Mary every time you put the key in the ignition.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Well more reinforcement to not trust anyone on the road yesterday. Out messing around on the CRF and pull up to a stop sign. Wait a while for a break in traffic to turn left. Van with right blinker on starts slowing down so I pull out. Driver hits the ABS and is on the horn...I was a couple feet from being t-boned. I won't even pull into traffic in a car until I see someone with a blinker on actually begin to turn. The blinker means nothing to me when it comes to perpendicular traffic.
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Aargh posted:Not that I can pick one US state from another but how do you rate one state as worst at Porn Usage - too little or too much? I want to know what the deal is with "weakest gov't influence".  You were doing 125 in a 45 back there. So? DL, insurance and registration sir. Nope.BrumBRAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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M.C. McMic posted:I won't even pull into traffic in a car until I see someone with a blinker on actually begin to turn. The blinker means nothing to me when it comes to perpendicular traffic. That is usually my rule so not sure why I made the stupid exception yesterday.
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I've come up with a pretty good sequence that I follow for turning left on busy streets. I think it's saved my life at least a couple times: 1) Turn on left blinker 2) Check mirrors to be sure you're not about to be rear-ended when stopping 3) Come to a complete stop 4) Press firmly on rear brake 5) Shift attention to oncoming traffic lane while continuing to monitor rear 6) Throw flaming molotov cocktail into oncoming traffic 7) loving gun it
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SlightlyMadman posted:I've come up with a pretty good sequence that I follow for turning left on busy streets. I think it's saved my life at least a couple times: SlightlyMadman has an extra two hands, I done seen 'em!
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SlightlyMadman posted:1) Turn on left blinker
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Hand signals are also useful if it's unclear what you might be doing. E.g. are you turning across traffic into a side road or about to overtake a line of cars. I think they're pretty good for making the point "hey, pay attention because I'm about to do something". Usually a good thing on a bike. I mean, let's say you had just managed to perfect your fourth-gear one handed stand up wheelie. You wouldn't want anyone to miss that.* * Internationally understood symbol is an index finger jabbed skywards and then four fingers held aloft with the thumb crossed over the palm. Like so: "I am about to hoist a minger - check it out bitches"  "Fourth gear muthafucka!"  Note that these symbols should not be used while riding in China, as emergency services may attend. "It's hosed again - knew I should have bought Japanese" "Yep, I have lost fourth gear"
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 IT'S ALIVE!Had a bit of a close one yesterday. On a right turn from a main road to a small side road, I was going maybe 20-30kph when I hit a bit of gravel right at the apex. I had actually spotted the gravel, but dumb as I was I figured that I'd hit the very edge of it and be mostly on the asphalt. The rear tire lost all traction, kicked once to the left, once to the right and I was ok, narrowly missing a car on the other side of the road. Once I unclenched and my buttcheeks gave up their deathgrip on the seat, I rode another 100km in a slightly more sedate and much more eagle-eyed style. I'm just glad the Bandit is so forgiving and mild-mannered, no bike suffers fools gladly, but where some kill you instantly, some just go "sheesh, beginners  "
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Strangely enough, I saw a dog with a truck full of gravel wielding a shovel near that very spot yesterday. I wonder if there's any connection between these events?
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Saga posted:Strangely enough, I saw a dog with a truck full of gravel wielding a shovel near that very spot yesterday. GOOOOOOON RAAAAAAAGE  (Actually, I think it was the dickbag in the Saab who tried to cut me off a couple of times. He looked like a shifty sort of person)
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kind of embarrassed to post this but I figured I should share so you all can mock me I came back from out of town and didn't have my bike for a week, I picked it up from a friends and decided I HAD to ride. Immediately I noticed that my front brake was feeling pretty spongy but I figured it would be fine for a short ride through the city. 10 mins into the ride I was going 70 km/h( the speed limit) and approaching an intersection the light turned yellow at the exact moment where I felt I was going too fast to stop in time but was far enough away I would blow through a red. So I hit the brakes. I took all of my focus off of everything else and just focused on the feel of the levers trying to get as much braking action out of the bike as I could without locking my tires ( I was lucky too because I actually did lock my rear a bit, I felt it wiggling around). I came to a stop about 2 feet past the crosswalk. I noticed I had also stalled my bike. This is really embarrassing as I am not sure if I forgot to pull in the clutch or what exactly happened. Anyways I was saved by the fact that I didn't panic even when I recognized that I wasn't going to stop in time and that I know how to stop properly ( or at least I think I do, if I did something wrong I would love to know) also I went straight home and bled my drat brakes and even ordered some DP HH+ pads. long story short: bleed your brakes! edit: I guess my mistake was that I didn't "lay'er down" SaucyPants fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jun 26, 2011 |
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