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Casull
Aug 13, 2005

:catstare: :catstare: :catstare:
Did I fry my motherboard? I unplugged my computer without hitting the hard power switch on the power supply in order to remove a bad network card. My computer won't even go to post now- no fans running, etc. There's a green light that goes on like normal on my mobo, though, so I think it's still receiving power, it's just not turning on.

For reference, my mobo is an Asus P5QL.

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Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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Casull posted:

Did I fry my motherboard? I unplugged my computer without hitting the hard power switch on the power supply in order to remove a bad network card. My computer won't even go to post now- no fans running, etc. There's a green light that goes on like normal on my mobo, though, so I think it's still receiving power, it's just not turning on.

For reference, my mobo is an Asus P5QL.
Nope, that shouldn't hurt anything. Double-check that all your cables are securely connected (and you didn't reconnect one to the wrong spot), clear the CMOS if necessary.

Purefish
Jun 12, 2008
Is it possible to do a clean install of Windows 7 without an optical drive? I made a Win 7 image that was bootable off of a flash drive; but when I tried to install before previous OS loading, it said it needed drivers. It installed fine after OS loading, but it was not a clean install. This seems like a stupid question, but I would not put it beyond Microsoft to do something like this.

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you missed a step. A bootable flash drive image of Windows 7 behaves identically to a DVD boot, once it's made. How was it not a clean install? Did you neglect to clear the old partition before you installed and it did an actual upgrade?

Purefish
Jun 12, 2008
Just to be clear I still installed it off of the flash drive, only once the OS I already had was loaded. I remember in Windows Vista I could clear the old partions during the install. With this, only one partition was listed even though the space did not match the total disk space. I would clear everything now and install again, except I am afraid that without the current OS files I would be unable to install it.

Here is the problem: I don't have an optical drive plugged into my machine, when I tried to install Windows 7 right after a restart, before the old Windows starts running; the installation setup says it cannot install it because it does not have CD/DVD drivers. When I ran the setup on the flash drive within Windows, it installed fine. It will probably still work just as well, but for stability reasons I would like to have a clean install.

Edit: I hooked up a DVD drive and still got the same problem.

Purefish fucked around with this message at 09:15 on May 7, 2011

Crazy Eye Joe
Apr 12, 2006
My computer stopped working, and I think it's because of my motherboard.

It's an Asus P5QL.
When I turn it on, it makes one long and three short beeps, and that's it. The fan keeps running, but nothing else happens. According to Asus' troubleshooter, it means that no video card is being detected. I gave my card to a friend, and it worked on his computer. Then I borrowed another friend's card and my computer booted, but the screen didn't get turned on.

So, I have to assume my PCIe-slot is busted. Now, it's pretty hard to find a P5QL these days, so I'm considering just getting a new PCIe slot, and soldering it on. I've never even attempted this before, but I've done a bit of soldering at school, and I figure I don't have much to lose anyway.

Any opinions/tips on this? Like, how many pins would I have to solder, and how difficult would this be?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

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You should try another video card/another slot/both.

Crazy Eye Joe
Apr 12, 2006
Well, my board only has one slot, but I'd try another video card if I had one.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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You can't resolder a slot. If you need to replace the board any compatible Intel-chipset LGA775 board should work without a Windows reinstall. You should try a teardown and benchtest before anything that drastic though, as well as try another power supply.

Crazy Eye Joe
Apr 12, 2006
How, exactly, could I carry out a bench test without being able to interact with my computer?

enotnert
Jun 10, 2005

Only women bleed

Purefish posted:

Just to be clear I still installed it off of the flash drive, only once the OS I already had was loaded. I remember in Windows Vista I could clear the old partions during the install. With this, only one partition was listed even though the space did not match the total disk space. I would clear everything now and install again, except I am afraid that without the current OS files I would be unable to install it.

Here is the problem: I don't have an optical drive plugged into my machine, when I tried to install Windows 7 right after a restart, before the old Windows starts running; the installation setup says it cannot install it because it does not have CD/DVD drivers. When I ran the setup on the flash drive within Windows, it installed fine. It will probably still work just as well, but for stability reasons I would like to have a clean install.

Edit: I hooked up a DVD drive and still got the same problem.

Quick question. . . Is this legal Win7? I've had problems getting win7 to USB, but once it's on the stick, never a single problem installing it, and the only time I encountered problems like this was back when I was a silly little pirate and trying to install some black ice no keygen super professional WinXP edition.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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Crazy Eye Joe posted:

How, exactly, could I carry out a bench test without being able to interact with my computer?
Bench testing means disassembling everything and starting with the motherboard, CPU and cooler, one stick of RAM, power supply, and videocard. Put the board on a flat, non-conductive surface (like a box), hook up the power cables, try to power it on by crossing the power switch header pins with a key or screwdriver or something. If it doesn't POST, clear the CMOS and try again. If it still doesn't POST, try a different stick of RAM. If it still doesn't POST, try a different videocard (you can probably skip this since you've tested the videocard in another machine). If it STILL doesn't POST, try a different power supply. If none of that fixes it, you've localized the problem to either the motherboard or CPU. Since bad CPUs are the lupus of computers (it's never lupus!), you've got yourself a dead motherboard. Here's a not-terribly-shittastic Gigabyte replacement for $79.99. Or you might just wanna get a new motherboard+CPU+RAM if you're feeling the age of yours.

Crazy Eye Joe
Apr 12, 2006
POST is when it starts booting up and the screen shows startup text, right? Because when I tried using my friend's video card, it did POST, except no video signal came out of the card (the screen stayed in hybernation). To be more precise, I could hear the hard drive spinning and clicking like it should, and everything seemed normal, apart from the lack of video output. Could this have anything to do with either the power supply or some sort of compatibility issue with that video card?

Oh, and by the way, the first thing I did when it stopped working was to go out and get some new RAM, so that's definitely not it either.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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When I say "POSTs", I mean "successfully completes the Power On Self Test," meaning you have a display on the monitor and all that. Yes, that problem could certainly be caused by a bad power supply. I doubt it's a videocard related issue if your card works in another machine. You should definitely still test with one stick of RAM at a time with both the old and new stuff, just to eliminate that as a potential cause. If you can borrow a working power supply from someone that would probably be a good next step before you declare the board dead (if the other testing I mentioned doesn't fix it).

Crazy Eye Joe
Apr 12, 2006
Alright, thanks, I'll try that and report back if I have any issues.

PS: I live in Europe, but I could still buy that motherboard you linked to, right? I can't seem to find it in my country.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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Crazy Eye Joe posted:

PS: I live in Europe, but I could still buy that motherboard you linked to, right? I can't seem to find it in my country.
You're basically looking for a socket LGA775 motherboard with an Intel 4-series chipset and DDR2 memory support. Having an ICH10 southbridge chip is preferable so you can use newer harddrives and SSD if you want to, but not required (lovely retailers may not even tell you what it has). Ideally you want one from a brand that isn't terrible (terrible brands include Jetway, ECS, Biostar, and PC Chips).

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account
Is there such a thing as a low-profile USB plate? I see plenty of USB cards, but I don't even need a card, just a simple rear bracket that will make use of the excess headers on my HTPC's motherboard.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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Elotana posted:

Is there such a thing as a low-profile USB plate? I see plenty of USB cards, but I don't even need a card, just a simple rear bracket that will make use of the excess headers on my HTPC's motherboard.
Here's the first one I found on Newegg, $7.99.


VVVVV I'm like a coiled spring, man!

Alereon fucked around with this message at 00:13 on May 8, 2011

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
Dang it, I had this one <:mad:> Same link and everything.

Elotana
Dec 12, 2003

and i'm putting it all on the goddamn expense account
Haha, I looked on Newegg too but didn't see that one for some reason. Okay, how about this: my case has one of those newfangled 19-pin USB3 connectors but my motherboard doesn't have that header. Any add-on cards using that yet? All the "internal" cards I can find just have the same A-male connectors outside and in for those old pass-through workarounds.

Purefish
Jun 12, 2008
I just used a DVD to install, and it worked fine.

thrawn86
May 26, 2006

Sure, I got a secret. More than one...
^^ ah well, but this should fix it

Purefish posted:

Just to be clear I still installed it off of the flash drive, only once the OS I already had was loaded. I remember in Windows Vista I could clear the old partions during the install. With this, only one partition was listed even though the space did not match the total disk space. I would clear everything now and install again, except I am afraid that without the current OS files I would be unable to install it.

Here is the problem: I don't have an optical drive plugged into my machine, when I tried to install Windows 7 right after a restart, before the old Windows starts running; the installation setup says it cannot install it because it does not have CD/DVD drivers. When I ran the setup on the flash drive within Windows, it installed fine. It will probably still work just as well, but for stability reasons I would like to have a clean install.

Edit: I hooked up a DVD drive and still got the same problem.

This exact problem was driving me mad a long time ago when I first installed 7, even made a post on sevenforums about it.

redownload the image, check your hashes, then wipe and remake your bootable flash. Something got corrupted, somewhere.

warcake
Apr 10, 2010
Is it possible that both my wireless keyboard and mouse are both really intermittent when the recievers are plugged in the back of my computer because of interference from the components inside?
I just built this PC and if i plug my wireless recievers into the back the mouse is really jerky and the keyboard sometimes doesn't respond to button presses. They never actually disconnect from the computer though.
I don't want to leave them plugged in the front all the time :( I hope its not a mobo problem as they are fine when plugged into the case USB ports.

EDIT: Ok im trying adding them to the back one at a time, and also disabling the wireless card and turning it back on afterwards, I've added the mouse to the back and it seems to be ok so far.

warcake fucked around with this message at 10:52 on May 8, 2011

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Does anyone else have the MX1100 Logitech mouse/keyboard?

I'm having an issue where the mouse doesn't register holding the buttons down in games. This only applies to mouse button 3, 4 and the mousewheel click (i think that's 5) as the Left and Right mouse button perform functions when held down (like shooting a gun).

It's like they're stuck on some kind of single click kind of thing so the game thinks i'm just pressing the button once and releasing when i'm actually holding it down.

Is there a setting somewhere for this or is it just part of the design for the mouse? It seems oddly specific.

Kin fucked around with this message at 12:53 on May 8, 2011

WanderingKid
Feb 27, 2005

lives here...
Do any of you guys experience a very high pitched (15 to 16khz), intermittent tone coming from somewhere in your computer case? I've had 3x Intel Core iX computers and they all do this.

BIOS is locked out on all 3 so I can't disable c3/c6/c7 states to see if these are the problem. It also goes away if I turn off the lcd displays. I don't get it.

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
What video cards did you have in them, and what model were the motherboards? There are some transformers on some models that give off a whine, and you would hear this under load, mostly.

WanderingKid
Feb 27, 2005

lives here...
Intel PM55. nVidia GT330M (mobile chipset)
Intel H57 Ibex Peak. nVidia 460GTX

The other one I need to take a look at. This problem seems ridiculously common.

Casull
Aug 13, 2005

:catstare: :catstare: :catstare:

Alereon posted:

Double-check that all your cables are securely connected (and you didn't reconnect one to the wrong spot)

Turns out I knocked my power/reset wires loose :downs: Thanks!

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood
Small question, I noticed one of the cores in my graphics card (Radeon 5970) is working under 100% load even while doing nothing. My usual idle temps used to be ~~45-50 degrees celsius, but now it's heating up to 70 and still rising over time. Catalyst version 11.3

It's still very much acceptable, but it's weird that it just started doing this all of a sudden. When I turn on the computer it's fine, at very low use, but after 2 minutes, the first core is at 99-100% load and it just heats up over time. I do not hear the fans spinning up any more than usual though.

edit: While typing this post, the 2nd core started acting up at 100%. What the hell :psyduck:

texting my ex fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 9, 2011

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Skilleddk posted:

Small question, I noticed one of the cores in my graphics card (Radeon 5970) is working under 100% load even while doing nothing. My usual idle temps used to be ~~45-50 degrees celsius, but now it's heating up to 70 and still rising over time. Catalyst version 11.3

It's still very much acceptable, but it's weird that it just started doing this all of a sudden. When I turn on the computer it's fine, at very low use, but after 2 minutes, the first core is at 99-100% load and it just heats up over time. I do not hear the fans spinning up any more than usual though.

edit: While typing this post, the 2nd core started acting up at 100%. What the hell :psyduck:

What OS?

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood

Bob Morales posted:

What OS?

Sorry

Windows 7 professional, 64 bit

I googled around and apparently it's some combined firefox 4.0 and driver issue. I let the computer rest for a while, and haven't been able to replicate the issue again (maybe it was some weird one time thing), but the idle temps are still high, currently at ~~60 degrees.

texting my ex fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 9, 2011

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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Skilleddk posted:

Sorry

Windows 7 professional, 64 bit

I googled around and apparently it's some combined firefox 4.0 and driver issue. I let the computer rest for a while, and haven't been able to replicate the issue again (maybe it was some weird one time thing), but the idle temps are still high, currently at ~~60 degrees.
That's fixed in Catalyst 11.4, though Catalyst 11.5 also just came out. Update your drivers (don't forget to install the Catalyst Application Profiles afterward!) and you should be good to go.

McGuirk
Jan 28, 2010

I'll take you out, buddy!
I just inherited an X60 laptop by Lenovo, and I have two questions:

Where can I find a good battery replacement that doesn't die in 6 months, like all the reviews for the ones I find say they will, and two, can I do a SSD replacement on this laptop?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

McGuirk posted:

I just inherited an X60 laptop by Lenovo, and I have two questions:

Where can I find a good battery replacement that doesn't die in 6 months, like all the reviews for the ones I find say they will, and two, can I do a SSD replacement on this laptop?

If you have a SATA drive, yes. If it's PATA, you -can- but it'll be expensive. My T42 (Pentium-M) is PATA :( I kind of want a X60 but it'd have to be dual-core, and a little bit faster because mine is borderline to slow to use anymore. Well, it'd probably be okay with FluxBox or XP.

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Looks like i found a workaround for my mouse problem above. It turns out the logitech software gives the buttons a predefined "task". You can modify these tasks to be used on any buttons in addition to additional things like registering multiple keyboard commands to a single button.

By default the 4 and 5 buttons are set to "forward" and "back" for windows functions, so changing one of those to "generic button" let it register single click and held click functions in games.

The thing is, even when changing it from "back" to "generic button" the button changed still acts like the back button. I've no idea why the "forward" and "back" settings in the program would prevent the mousebuttons from doing anything when held down. :iiam:

MeKeV
Aug 10, 2010
^^^ Does this help you get to where you want? http://uberoptions.net/

Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.
I've been playing SC2 on my laptop. It doesn't really have a graphics card that can handle it and I think it might have cooked it a little bit because my computer barfs up when playing videos and stuff a lot now too. I was looking to replace the graphics card but after doing a bunch of (attempted) shopping around and research it looks like replacing a graphics card on a notebook is at best difficult if not impossible?

Is this true? Is there some sort of clever work around that isn't going to cost me a lot of money?

TITTIEKISSER69
Mar 19, 2005

SAVE THE BEES
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Nutsack Rangoon posted:

I've been playing SC2 on my laptop. It doesn't really have a graphics card that can handle it and I think it might have cooked it a little bit because my computer barfs up when playing videos and stuff a lot now too. I was looking to replace the graphics card but after doing a bunch of (attempted) shopping around and research it looks like replacing a graphics card on a notebook is at best difficult if not impossible?

Is this true? Is there some sort of clever work around that isn't going to cost me a lot of money?

Nearly all laptops ever have had their graphics integrated into the motherboard. Very very few had removable/replaceable graphics modules. I don't know if that's still even done any more.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

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Nutsack Rangoon posted:

I've been playing SC2 on my laptop. It doesn't really have a graphics card that can handle it and I think it might have cooked it a little bit because my computer barfs up when playing videos and stuff a lot now too. I was looking to replace the graphics card but after doing a bunch of (attempted) shopping around and research it looks like replacing a graphics card on a notebook is at best difficult if not impossible?

Is this true? Is there some sort of clever work around that isn't going to cost me a lot of money?
What's your laptop brand and model, and what GPU does it have? Have you tried dusting out the vents with a canned air duster, and checking the CPU/GPU temperature with the appropriate programs?

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Nutsack Rangoon
Mar 30, 2010

EVERYTHING IS NUMBERED HERE. THE MONSTER IS ZERO.

Alereon posted:

What's your laptop brand and model, and what GPU does it have? Have you tried dusting out the vents with a canned air duster, and checking the CPU/GPU temperature with the appropriate programs?

It's a Dell Latitude D830 about 4 years old now.

GPU is a NVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M.

Any hope? I'll get some canned air tomorrow and give it a clean. Probably a good call, I can't remember if she always got this hot. It might be a silly question, but if I can't change the graphics card is there anything I can do short of building a new computer?

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