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metaxus posted:Project RPM5 with an Ortofon 2M Black or Vivo Blue. I have the one before this with the mostly carbon fiber arm and it's been a great table. However, I am considering selling it and replacing it with an SL-1200.
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Owsla posted:I was all excited about the TDK table but someone posted the specs earlier and they're pretty lovely honestly. Something like <.25 wow and flutter and >60db s/n - Good direct drive tables are usually around <.025 wow and flutter and >75db s/n for reference. Interesting. How much difference would that acutally make in day to day listening, particularly if I just plan on hooking it up to my soundbar since I don't have a receiver? Also, are there any new good fully automatic turntables out there?
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metaxus posted:Project RPM5 with an Ortofon 2M Black or Vivo Blue. Thank you for this, I'll look into it.
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Received a Technics SL-1700 last week and so far have been very pleased with the sound. Only problem is that I'm finding the "s" sound can sound very hard in some songs. Is this a cart problem or did I screw something up? It still has the original Stanton 500 cart.
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Thom and the Heads posted:Received a Technics SL-1700 last week and so far have been very pleased with the sound. Only problem is that I'm finding the "s" sound can sound very hard in some songs. Is this a cart problem or did I screw something up? It still has the original Stanton 500 cart. Could definitely be a tracking force or calibration issue. Did you go through all the typical rigamarole to set it up, or leave it as shipped?
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bacon! posted:Could definitely be a tracking force or calibration issue. Did you go through all the typical rigamarole to set it up, or leave it as shipped? I checked the spindle quickly and messed around with the tracking force a bit but haven't taken it apart or anything yet. So far I'm just playing some test records on it to try and mess with the tracking force. Would hard "s"'s be indicative of a too lite or too heavy force?
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helsabot posted:Interesting. How much difference would that acutally make in day to day listening, particularly if I just plan on hooking it up to my soundbar since I don't have a receiver? Unfortunately I can't give you a definitive answer to that. It might not be an audible difference with a soundbar, not sure. Personally though I couldn't see using something that expensive with poor specs as a source. You can get a nice vintage direct drive table like a Pioneer PL-550 or PL-570 for $200 or so and a nice clean preamp for around $50, add a $60 or $70 Shure m97xe cart and you've got the best possible sound for your money. If you go with vintage Technics you can get the tables even cheaper, any of the 1970's direct drive SL series are very nice tables and you can usually get very nice condition examples for $70-$150.
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Thom and the Heads posted:I checked the spindle quickly and messed around with the tracking force a bit but haven't taken it apart or anything yet. So far I'm just playing some test records on it to try and mess with the tracking force. Would hard "s"'s be indicative of a too lite or too heavy force? I'm not totally sure - go through a guide like this one : http://i.gizmodo.com/5216965/how-to-calibrate-your-turntable-for-the-best-possible-sound and see if that helps. The most important things are the directional alignment of the cartridge, the overall balance, and the tracking force.
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Thom and the Heads posted:Received a Technics SL-1700 last week and so far have been very pleased with the sound. Only problem is that I'm finding the "s" sound can sound very hard in some songs. Is this a cart problem or did I screw something up? It still has the original Stanton 500 cart. Alignment and tracking force could make things sound better, but the stock Stanton 500 stylus has pretty mediocre treble response in the first place, so there's probably only so much you can do. It is also a conical stylus, so it is not as sensitive to correct alignment as other stylus types. The good news is that there are many replacement styli for that cartridge that will give you a large improvement in sound quality. Stanton D71EE is a good choice: http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LG&Product_Code=STAD0071EE The Stanton 500 stylus is also interchangeable with styli for Pickering V-15 cartridges. There are some good options there too, like the AME3: http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LG&Product_Code=PICKSV15AME3 Of course, there are also lots of options available if you want to get another cartridge altogether. The SL-1700 is a great table and you can definitely get very nice sound from it. edit: Both of these replacement styli take around 1.25 grams of tracking force. The original 500 stylus tracks at 3-5g. Funeral Pudding fucked around with this message at 09:22 on May 12, 2011 |
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I'm thinking of getting a Denon DL-103R, but being my first MC cart, I'm not sure if it will work with my receiver. The 103R has an output of .25mV and the manual for my Yamaha CR-2020 says the MC's input sensitivity is 50µV/10 Ohm (.05mV) and max input level is 5mV(@1Khz). Using KAB's website calculator, it says my receiver's gain is 74dB and optimum gain for the cart is 63dB. Does this meant it wont work?
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It should work fine. That optimum gain figure is more like a minimum gain required for that cartridge to sound it's best. The extra gain your receiver offers just means you can use a wide array of cartridges and you won't have to turn up the volume as much with the Denon. Edit: Just swapped out the AD711s for a pair of Texas Instruments TL071s. The original Genera phono preamp was designed around a TL072 and now I hear why. The 3D stereo imaging is impressive. I tried a pair of ST Microelectronics TL071s but they sound nowhere near as good as the Texas Instruments version. Paperweight fucked around with this message at 19:36 on May 22, 2011 |
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cool, thanks!
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The gainclone is complete! I have a crappy twitpic here: http://img.ly/4mUa I'll post a nice picture tomorrow or wednesday. Unfortunately, there is quite a good deal of static/hum from my ancient Audigy2. It's completely silent hooked up to my Macbook Pro, which is good, but it will stay hooked up to my PC which has the Audigy 2. Time to replace it I guess. Otherwise, it sounds amazing! It cost about $400 after it was all said and done.
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Post pictures of the internals. Did you insulate the chips from the heatsink with mica or silicone wafers? I'm about to finish replacing all the parts on a friend's subwoofer amp. Honestly, I'll be surprised if it works even for 5 minutes. It's not even 10 years old but a lot of the small transistors are obsolete. I've substituted so many parts it'll be a finger crossing moment when I fire it up. Edit: I don't know if that's okay or bad to have them making direct contact with the chassis. A lot of the times, the metal back on say a TO-220 style transistor case is connected to one of the terminals. Sometimes they carry voltage. If the chassis is grounded, that might cause trouble too. Which chip(s) are you using? Edit 2: Apparently, on a LM3886T chip, the back of the chip package is connected to the V-. The TF version is isolated but has horrible thermal conductivity. http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/parts/94665-lm3886-t-vs-tf-simple-question-not-argument.html Paperweight fucked around with this message at 00:38 on May 25, 2011 |
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I've decided I need a new cartridge for my SL-1700. Looking for a cart that won't be terribly expensive (less than $100, preferably around $75). So far I'm leaning towards Grado Black. Anything else I should consider?
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Paperweight posted:Post pictures of the internals. Did you insulate the chips from the heatsink with mica or silicone wafers? The case is the heatsink. The chips are mounted directly to the case, with thermal paste in between.
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Thom and the Heads posted:I've decided I need a new cartridge for my SL-1700. Looking for a cart that won't be terribly expensive (less than $100, preferably around $75). So far I'm leaning towards Grado Black. Anything else I should consider? Audio Technica AT120 at $80 is interesting: http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LG&Product_Code=ATC06&Category_Code=A3
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Well I guess I shouldn't be allowed in the recycling center. Just got a Pioneer PL-120 with an Ortofon VMS 20 E Mk II cartridge that doesn't even seem to need a new stylus. Not bad for 20 €. It does need a new set of leads, though, as it hummed something awful and for good reason since the cartridge wasn't really grounded. I've never seen a cart lead just disintegrate when you touch it before.
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BattleHork posted:Audio Technica AT120 at $80 is interesting: http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LG&Product_Code=ATC06&Category_Code=A3 I got this cartridge for my SL-1400 and I'm really happy with it. For the price I think it sounds great. Was a HUGE upgrade over my 30$ piece of poo poo default cart.
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Thom and the Heads posted:I've decided I need a new cartridge for my SL-1700. Looking for a cart that won't be terribly expensive (less than $100, preferably around $75). So far I'm leaning towards Grado Black. Anything else I should consider? If you like a bright, detailed sound, go for the AT-120E. If you prefer a "smoother" sound with less treble detail, but stronger midrange, get a Grado Black or Nagaoka MP-110. Ortofon 2M Red and Shure M97xe are also in your price range. Personally, I'm not a fan of either cart, but many people like them. They also won't preform as well on a Technics tonearm as the others.
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So my turntable that I found in the garage and cleaned up poo poo out on me. I have a low price range. Between these two, which is the best choice? They dont require an extra amp do they? Which one comes with a better cartridge? Sorry I wouldn't know the difference between cartridges or anything so im pretty challenged when it comes to shopping for audio equipment. http://www.amazon.com/Technica-AT-LP60-Automatic-Driven-Turntable/dp/B002GYTPAE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306704647&sr=1-1 http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PS-LX250H-Automatic-Belt-Drive-Turntable/dp/B00005T3XH/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306704647&sr=1-2 Is there a better turntable for around 100 dollars that I should look at? Any help is appreciated! edit: how about this thing? http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PLTTB1-Professional-Belt-Drive-Turntable/dp/B00009V3TU/ref=sr_1_17?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306704647&sr=1-17 playground tough fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 29, 2011 |
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Squirrel007 posted:So my turntable that I found in the garage and cleaned up poo poo out on me. I have a low price range. They're all pretty weak honestly, you should buy this: http://cgi.ebay.com/TECHNICS-SL1350-VINTAGE-AUTOMATIC-DIRECT-DRIVE-CHAINGER-/290550793038?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item43a62d434e Just make sure they pack it really well.
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Squirrel007 posted:So my turntable that I found in the garage and cleaned up poo poo out on me. I have a low price range. I obviously haven't tried one myself but from what I've heard (read) the Pyle is pretty much a waste of money. If I were buying one of those, I'd probably go with Audio Technica but both the Sony and AT are bad because you can't replace the cartridge. Whatever you do, be absolutely certain the unit you buy has a magnetic, not a ceramic cartridge. This may be a good read: http://www.knowzy.com/Computers/Audio/Digitize_Your_LPs/USB_Record_Player_Turntable_Comparison.htm
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Dont have time to check out the article until later, how about one of these? http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PSLX350H-Stereo-Turntable-System/dp/B00001ZWTY/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&qid=1306795427&sr=8-19 http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-PL-990-2-Speed-Automatic-Turntable/dp/B00009QORL/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1306795399&sr=8-10 I am liking the look of the sony but I honestly dont know enough about turntables technically. edit; ew just read reviews saying they have speed issues, so disappointing. BASICALLY I am looking for the best turntable I can buy in the sub 200 dollar range. Preferably from amazon if possible. playground tough fucked around with this message at 23:50 on May 30, 2011 |
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Squirrel007 posted:Dont have time to check out the article until later, how about one of these? If you think the Sony looks nice that's because it's basically a Technics SL-1210 Mk II clone. Like a great many record players. That's not necessarily a bad thing. I've found that most cheap units either have or will sooner rather than later have speed issues. I'd advise you to get a good used player but, sadly, that's not really an option if you don't know what you're looking for. EDIT: OK I read the reviews as well and maybe it's not just normal issues that all cheap belt-drives have... I looked around Amazon a bit and this may be out of your price range but at least I can recommend it because I've used one (well, two) and it's one of the better SL-1200 clones out there. http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-PL120-Professional-Direct-Drive-Turntable/dp/B00012EYNG 3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 23:59 on May 30, 2011 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:I looked around Amazon a bit and this may be out of your price range but at least I can recommend it because I've used one (well, two) and it's one of the better SL-1200 clones out there. http://www.amazon.com/Audio-Technica-AT-PL120-Professional-Direct-Drive-Turntable/dp/B00012EYNG After skimming that article, which put things into perspective, I think I will go with this. When I purchase this I will be able to just hook it up to my receiver and be good to go?
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Squirrel007 posted:After skimming that article, which put things into perspective, I think I will go with this. When I purchase this I will be able to just hook it up to my receiver and be good to go? Well it says quote:Selectable internal stereo phono preamplifier--choose from phono or line-level output It probably comes with a very-basic-but-not-terrible Audio Technica pick-up (cartridge and needle) but as it has a standard headshell, you can later easily upgrade to a better one. For $40-60 you can get a much better one when/if you feel like it. Wait, poo poo... according to this http://www.audio-technica.com/cms/turntables/c2b92193a60be297/index.html this http://www.amazon.com/Technica-ATLP120-Professional-Turntable-USB/dp/B002S1CJ2Q/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1306797983&sr=1-1 is the newer version. At a glance I don't see anything different except the PL->LP and the addition of a USB port. EDIT: Yeah, this is the model currently sold in shops. Couldn't they think of a more inconspicuous naming scheme? Maybe their next record played will be called the APLT-120... 3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 00:34 on May 31, 2011 |
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Jerry Cotton posted:Well it says So go with the latest iteration yeah?
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Squirrel007 posted:So go with the latest iteration yeah? Well having a USB port doesn't hurt, does it? The price seems to be about the same.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Well having a USB port doesn't hurt, does it? The price seems to be about the same.
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 Thanks for the help guys! playground tough fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jun 3, 2011 |
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I have 4 "working" turntables and each one of them has something about them that makes them annoying. I have: technics slb2 - I have used it twice. I had to get a universal head shell for it and when I played it everything was fine, but over the course of 2 days I could no longer to get the pitch control right. It's a tad slow, and I can no longer move the pitch dial any farther to hit the sweet spot. Has the belt stretched or could it be a more serious problem? I guess the easy way to diagnose is try a new belt.... Garrard GT-25-AP-1 - I can't find a whole lot about this table, but it's my favorite of what I have. The problem is that it looks like the platter has been dropped at one point and is ever so slightly warped(less than a millimeter). It's very slight, but just enough to combine with the wobble on slightly warped records to make the needle jump, especially at 45 rpm. I need a new platter, but not sure how do figure out compatibility. It's the only platter out of all of them that sits on another peice turned by the belt instead of the belt directly wrapping around the platter. I might be able to unwarp the platter, but I don't know the best way to try. Philips 312 - It has fancy "futuristic" touch sensitive buttons. It seems to randomly decide to pick up the tonearm while playing and return it and stop. Maybe, the fancy button thinks it's being touched when it is not? Not sure what the problem is, but it has made me very angry and I haven't fooled with it too much because of it. Philips - Plain Jane don't even know what model it is. The only place that looks like it might have had an identifier has been removed. It doesn't even return automatically and moving the arm doesn't start or stop the spin. You turn the spin off and on with a switch on the power cord. It works perfectly fine and it's what I'm using now, because of the problems with the other tables, but it's so primitive I hate that it will go forever on the end of the record until I stop it myself. Anyone have any solutions for my problems? I also want to get opinions on a shure rtx5 cartridge. My friend picked up a table that has that cartridge in it. It uses a hyperelliptical stylus and needs a new one. It seems the current compatible needle is a 773-dhl that he can get for about 25$. Is this an acceptable stylus/cart combo or should he just replace the cartridge?
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cosmicjim posted:I also want to get opinions on a shure rtx5 cartridge. My friend picked up a table that has that cartridge in it. It uses a hyperelliptical stylus and needs a new one. It seems the current compatible needle is a 773-dhl that he can get for about 25$. Is this an acceptable stylus/cart combo or should he just replace the cartridge? I would definitely keep that cartridge. The RXT carts are rebranded versions of Shure's M series. I think RXT5 is an M111HE. It's a good cart. Not too far away from the legendary Shure V15, and better than anything Shure still offers today. The 773-dhl stylus might be OK, but that manufacturer (Pfanstiehl) has a lot of quality control issues with their styli. It's kind of a crapshoot weather or not the stylus will be any good. LPgear offers a replacement stylus that is more expensive, but their styli also tend to be of higher quality. http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LG&Product_Code=RSR16X Many of the M series styli are interchangeable, so you might also be able to use a new Shure brand N97xE stylus. I'm not sure if this combination would work though, so you'd have to do some research. edit: LPgear also lists a Shure brand replacement for RXT-5. http://www.lpgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LG&Product_Code=SHSRXT5 Looks exactly like an N97xE. Pretty sure that's what it is. Funeral Pudding fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 5, 2011 |
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I just finished building an AMB Laboratories M3 headphone amp to drive a pair of Sennheiser HD600s. It rocks like mad. I should have built this years ago. The cool thing is that it can be converted to a stereo preamp or drive a pair of 8 ohm speakers with 2-8 watts depending on your power supply. When I get time, I'm going to try it out connected to the Genera phono preamp and spin some records. Now I need to clean up this mess and go to bed. Edit: Plugged in the Genera phono preamp for the first time in 2 weeks. At first I thought my new headphone amp just sounded crappy with vinyl or something. Left it plugged in and went to do something else for a couple of hours. Come back and tried another album. Sounded completely different this time around. It didn't dawn on me until later that the Genera takes a while to warm up and sound it's best. Anyway, the AMB Laboritories M3 and Graham Slee Genera phono preamp make a killer DIY combo for vinyl playback through headphones. Edit 2: If even just a static kind of sound is coming out of that particular channel, at least the output section is working. Sounds like a problem in the preamp. Maybe a dirty switch contact or a flakey relay? If it was hum, I'd suspect a bad filter or coupling capacitor. Paperweight fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jun 17, 2011 |
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Minor trouble shooting help? So my Pioneer SX-626 has been pumping my music loud and clear for a long time, but it may have finally kicked the bucket. I was listening to an LP today and all of a sudden the left speaker started blasting a lot of static. I figured my speakers were shot, but when I switched to aux it was fine, all of the other inputs (Phono 1, 2, FM AM) had really bad static on just one speaker. Any words of wisdom for me, or do I just have to replace it?
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LooksLikeABabyRat posted:Minor trouble shooting help? Might just be a dirty switch or pot. Is it better/worse if you move any of the switches/knobs around (even ones that don't seem relevant)? If so, a cleaner like Deoxit will definitely fix that problem.
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strtj posted:Might just be a dirty switch or pot. Is it better/worse if you move any of the switches/knobs around (even ones that don't seem relevant)? If so, a cleaner like Deoxit will definitely fix that problem. I was sort of going all over the place with the knobs and it didn't seem to help much, but I went on a weekend trip and came back and now it's working again for some reason. Hopefully it was a fluke.
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I have an pioneer sx-770 blackface model and i currently have some cheap sony bookshelf speakers plugged into the A channel. My parents just moved and they found a no name subwoofer probably from some 5.1 surround sound dvd box set thing. I was wondering if I could plug the speaker wire into the B channel or would that be a bad idea.
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I've suddenly realized that all of my old vinyl must be worn to hell. After listening to a virgin reissue of Dire Straits' Communiqué yesterday, it's obvious that my cartridge is not all that bad. No crackling, no popping, no distorsion, very nice stereo separation. I can easily tell when the tape hiss kicks in as a song begins. That album is really well recorded and mixed. This is exciting, but has the potential to be expensive if I decide I need more new vinyl... Can anyone recommend a cheap online store (preferably in Europe) that has a good selection and will ship to Sweden? Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 14:49 on Jun 22, 2011 |
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I have a Dual CS 606 table....and nothing else. What else do I need to get this working? Amp, speakers etc. The table itself is in good condition, I just don't know what else I need. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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