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I might have to get that since the Third Coast ends at like 2005. Looks like it covers much of the same poo poo up until then, but that makes, what, like 2 books on the subject? The more the merrier I guess
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The Doo Do Chasers posted:
if you liked Elmatic go ahead and get Elzhi's 'The Preface' if you dont already have it. Elzhi is bonkers
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New video from DaVinci ft. San Quinn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f04ZqNA91mE Pretty chill beat. You can download the song here: http://soundcloud.com/swtbrds/clean-rear end-whip-full-song
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Rah! posted:New video from DaVinci ft. San Quinn: im really diggin this dude based off this and the last video of his that one of yall posted.. hes one of those cats i feel like i should already know more about
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caveman thug poo poo posted:im really diggin this dude based off this and the last video of his that one of yall posted.. hes one of those cats i feel like i should already know more about Yeah, he's one of the best from the Bay Area in my opinion. Here's another track, from his last album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCwXDh8VZJs FREE download link for that album: http://swtbrds.bandcamp.com/album/the-day-the-turf-stood-still Rah! fucked around with this message at 10:28 on May 13, 2011 |
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Went to see Blackstar (w/ De La Soul, Jay Electronica (surprise guest) and Rakim) on the 10th in London at the Apollo. They were really into it and a great time was had by all.
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Holy poo poo, I remember checking up on Elmatic around this time last year and after seeing nothing I just assumed it was dead. poo poo's good too. Also the Killer Mike tape is pretty good. After Pledge Allegiance to the Grind II (which owned) Mike seemed to go whack (Mike Bigga???) and I had assumed that Pl3dge would be bad, but now I'm looking forward to it again
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The OFWGKTA thread has more posts than the entire hip-hop thread. People ride them so hard.
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phractured posted:The OFWGKTA thread has more posts than the entire hip-hop thread. People ride them so hard. You gonna be alright man?
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phractured posted:The OFWGKTA thread has more posts than the entire hip-hop thread. People ride them so hard. our last thread had 9,078 posts, and there was one before that with around the same amount. 
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May 13, 2011 16:59
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I bet a Wu Tang thread made in '96 would be the same way...
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FWIW the OF thread is also like 5 months older. Besides, if you want more people talking, why not talk about some stuff yourself? I'd love more discussion but in my experience there's only about 3-4 other dudes who will actually talk about poo poo more than posting a youtube link with "he goes hard" under it (and one of those dudes doesn't even come around here anymore seemingly).
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How many of you guys know a decent amount about the history of hip-hop? For diversity day at my school, I made a presentation about the history of hip-hop, and I actually learned a lot that I never knew about. What are some interesting bits of hip-hop history that you guys would share?
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That the conventional narrative is simplistic and misleading.
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Akrobatik, one of the only good things out of the Boston Hip-Hop scene just had a heart attack and is in a coma. Here's to hoping he pulls through  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS-KQjqsU0o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dibyaTrXuH8
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old school stuff has the best bass lines: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbI2TS0fW4Q http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MabsE2gqeoc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN-W5cyHwCo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIUzq7X020A katatonic posted:Akrobatik, one of the only good things out of the Boston Hip-Hop scene just had a heart attack and is in a coma. Never heard of him before now, but I like this guy, and i hope he makes it.
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Dotherside, who's been my dude as long as I can remember, just dropped a new video. He's gotten pretty sick. He's from Boston area and gets compared to Mac Miller. Which I don't quite see, aside from being college-age white kids. He's got a better flow, and some nice lyrics. Plus he's got some real nice production going for him. But yeah, here's his new video, Note to Self http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuYrJnQFTiM He also made a short video of his song I Be, a while ago. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EItYQXtxKko&feature=related He's got his second mixtape coming out this summer.
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alansmithee posted:FWIW the OF thread is also like 5 months older. katatonic posted:Akrobatik, one of the only good things out of the Boston Hip-Hop scene just had a heart attack and is in a coma. Untrue, alansmithee. We also post about when rappers die or go into comas (hoping he pulls through!).
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phractured posted:How many of you guys know a decent amount about the history of hip-hop? For diversity day at my school, I made a presentation about the history of hip-hop, and I actually learned a lot that I never knew about. What are some interesting bits of hip-hop history that you guys would share? I like to think that I know a lot about the history of hip-hop, but at the end of the day I just love beats and rhymes. I fell in love with hip-hop when I heard what people were doing with words, I remember being amazed that people could do that (i.e. 16 bars of 8 syllable rhyme schemes), and it's a lot easier for me to talk about how incredible it is that 'MC Y' or 'Producer X' did 'Thing Z' than the sociopolitical undertones of why it exists in the first place. What were some of the things you discovered that suprised you? e: also a little bummed about Akrobatik, hope he pulls through. i'll listen to some Perceptionists today because that will help
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Tactical Grace posted:Went to see Blackstar (w/ De La Soul, Jay Electronica (surprise guest) and Rakim) on the 10th in London at the Apollo. They were really into it and a great time was had by all. pl3dge leaked
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phractured posted:How many of you guys know a decent amount about the history of hip-hop? For diversity day at my school, I made a presentation about the history of hip-hop, and I actually learned a lot that I never knew about. What are some interesting bits of hip-hop history that you guys would share? I guess I don't really know much about rappin before around '87-'88. The only artists I know of from before then are the really popular ones like Sugarhill, Kurtis Blow, Fat Boys, Beasties, and LL. I think my favorite thing about listening to rap is recognizing all the callbacks/homage type poo poo that goes on, which I think comes from Jazz. Like you might hear a good line or melody, and think "Oh he took that from Blackstar" and then you listen to Biggie and hear it again, and then you listen to BDP and you're sure that's where it came from originally, until you find out that KRS-One lifted it from an old dancehall track. Here's a question for you: Where did "6 million ways to die... choose one!" come from? I ask because I've heard it so many times in rap but I honestly don't know. I'm sure it's from a dancehall tune.
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dethkon posted:Here's a question for you: Where did "6 million ways to die... choose one!" come from? I ask because I've heard it so many times in rap but I honestly don't know. I'm sure it's from a dancehall tune. Cutty Ranks has an album called Six Million Ways to Die and he says that on A Who Seh Ne Dun, but I'm not sure if he was the first to say it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7qxiGxAwyQ
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chomper posted:Are there any GOOD documentaries about hip-hop in general? I know there's plenty of decent docs on Biggie and Tupac.... there has to be a decent one on the game as a whole, right? yeah I didn't really mean for that come off as shots fired at you, sorry if it did. I totally understand what you're saying now, which is one more reason why I'm so gay for bandcamp. As far as documentaries, I haven't really seen any full length, but VH1 does mini-docs for its Hip-Honors honorees, and I've heard good things about the DJ Screw doc. As far as on the entire genre, I think that's a little too wide in scope for anything less than a Ken Burns style series. It's not a documentary, but Wild Style gives a pretty good picture of early hip-hop, with a lot of important figures of the era playing characters based on themselves caveman thug poo poo posted:I like to think that I know a lot about the history of hip-hop, but at the end of the day I just love beats and rhymes. I fell in love with hip-hop when I heard what people were doing with words, I remember being amazed that people could do that (i.e. 16 bars of 8 syllable rhyme schemes), and it's a lot easier for me to talk about how incredible it is that 'MC Y' or 'Producer X' did 'Thing Z' than the sociopolitical undertones of why it exists in the first place. yeah this is me but I definitely love reading old interviews and finding all kinds of cool anecdotes, like the Bun B interview where he talks about meeting Biggie and him saying that "Pocket Full of Stones was his poo poo." dethkon posted:I think my favorite thing about listening to rap is recognizing all the callbacks/homage type poo poo that goes on, which I think comes from Jazz. Like you might hear a good line or melody, and think "Oh he took that from Blackstar" and then you listen to Biggie and hear it again, and then you listen to BDP and you're sure that's where it came from originally, until you find out that KRS-One lifted it from an old dancehall track. Also this, hip-hop is probably the best genre to nerd out on poo poo like this, especially since it leads into other genres with crate-digging and all that.
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For some reason when I started colelcting records, looking for sample sources and poo poo didn't cross my mind, until I started running into records that made me go "wait wait where the hell have I heard htis... OH YEAH its fuckin the beat from ______". Then somehow it all fell into place and I bought an old Akai. haha. Sometimes its cool buying something I've never heard of, hearing some wicked break or groove and going to whosampled and seeing if anyone's used it before. Like I was spinning this the other day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo2euyJmDMI&playnext=1&list=PL0AF5A0E820592A51 and I couldn't help but think that that song was loving filled with perfect samples. So I looked it up and only two people had used it. I was pretty surprised. Anyway, when I was in middle school and absorbing music history like it was nobody's business, I =tried to read up on hip hop history but couldn't really find any good books. But poo poo like Wild Style, Krush Groove, Tougher Than Leather, Scratch, etc were all pretty interesting sources. Most poo poo out there just focuses on NY in the 70s and 80s which is cool and all, but hip hop means so much more than that now. Luckily the South got some real recognition and has a few books on it now. Hell, Hustle & Flow did a good job, at least from what I can tell. I think a HUGE Ken Burn's style thing would be awesome. Hopefulyl some day some one will do that, and hopefully not 50 years from like he did with Jazz and Scorcese did with Blues. And I'll totally be joining on the conversation in here, I kinda hibernated on rap during the cold months and its finally starting to warm up a little here so I'm getting more in the mood to listen to it. And therefore talk about it. Haha
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I've got an interesting challenge that's surprisingly hard for me. I have a friend who challenged me to "find him a rapper that goes harder than Eminem". While this sounds easy enough, he's not exactly what I would call a true rap fan. He's completely submerged in top 40 stuff so I can't give him a lot of the better rap I have because I think it'll go unappreciated. All I can think of off the top of my head that'll satisfy him is a bunch of old Three 6 mixtapes or maybe Kendrick Lamar since he's current. Any ideas?
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HatchetDown posted:I've got an interesting challenge that's surprisingly hard for me. I have a friend who challenged me to "find him a rapper that goes harder than Eminem". While this sounds easy enough, he's not exactly what I would call a true rap fan. He's completely submerged in top 40 stuff so I can't give him a lot of the better rap I have because I think it'll go unappreciated. All I can think of off the top of my head that'll satisfy him is a bunch of old Three 6 mixtapes or maybe Kendrick Lamar since he's current. Any ideas? if he's the type of person who needs to be convinced that there are rappers that "go harder than eminem" you won't be able to convince him that one exists E.T. NO HOMO fucked around with this message at 23:01 on May 13, 2011 |
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HatchetDown posted:I've got an interesting challenge that's surprisingly hard for me. I have a friend who challenged me to "find him a rapper that goes harder than Eminem". While this sounds easy enough, he's not exactly what I would call a true rap fan. He's completely submerged in top 40 stuff so I can't give him a lot of the better rap I have because I think it'll go unappreciated. All I can think of off the top of my head that'll satisfy him is a bunch of old Three 6 mixtapes or maybe Kendrick Lamar since he's current. Any ideas? Send him a Necro song?
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HatchetDown posted:I've got an interesting challenge that's surprisingly hard for me. I have a friend who challenged me to "find him a rapper that goes harder than Eminem". While this sounds easy enough, he's not exactly what I would call a true rap fan. He's completely submerged in top 40 stuff so I can't give him a lot of the better rap I have because I think it'll go unappreciated. All I can think of off the top of my head that'll satisfy him is a bunch of old Three 6 mixtapes or maybe Kendrick Lamar since he's current. Any ideas? Royce sounds like he's going to pop a vein more or less constantly. Pretty sure that qualifies as goin hard.
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HatchetDown posted:I've got an interesting challenge that's surprisingly hard for me. I have a friend who challenged me to "find him a rapper that goes harder than Eminem". While this sounds easy enough, he's not exactly what I would call a true rap fan. He's completely submerged in top 40 stuff so I can't give him a lot of the better rap I have because I think it'll go unappreciated. All I can think of off the top of my head that'll satisfy him is a bunch of old Three 6 mixtapes or maybe Kendrick Lamar since he's current. Any ideas? Maybe Vinnie Paz or some of the newer Jedi Mind Tricks Stuff? Ill Bill would fit in here as well.
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http://youtu.be/VHOgiVfYcvc How's he gonna argue with that?
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HatchetDown posted:I've got an interesting challenge that's surprisingly hard for me. I have a friend who challenged me to "find him a rapper that goes harder than Eminem". While this sounds easy enough, he's not exactly what I would call a true rap fan. He's completely submerged in top 40 stuff so I can't give him a lot of the better rap I have because I think it'll go unappreciated. All I can think of off the top of my head that'll satisfy him is a bunch of old Three 6 mixtapes or maybe Kendrick Lamar since he's current. Any ideas? Brotha Lynch Hung: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbmtRooHKM0
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Chade Johnson posted:Maybe Vinnie Paz or some of the newer Jedi Mind Tricks Stuff? Ill Bill would fit in here as well. Methinks some Army of the Pharaohs is actually gonna work. Thanks y'all this list is lookin good.
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caveman thug poo poo posted:if he's the type of person who needs to be convinced that there are rappers that "go harder than eminem" you won't be able to convince him that one exists this, but since I haven't hyped up K-Rino and the SPC in this thread, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c53H-IPU02k K-Rino
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im sayin, i could rattle off a list of rappers who have at one time or another "gone harder" or at least "as hard" as even early Eminem, but for someone who holds Em in such a high regard where he needs to have proof laid out before him that there are other rappers on that level, they really arent in a position to have that view changed hopefully your friend comes to this realization with your help and youre bumping Black On Both Sides this time next week
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Rah! posted:Yeah, he's one of the best from the Bay Area in my opinion. thanks for the bandcamp link, his album is the poo poo been listening to it all day
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caveman thug poo poo posted:im sayin, i could rattle off a list of rappers who have at one time or another "gone harder" or at least "as hard" as even early Eminem, but for someone who holds Em in such a high regard where he needs to have proof laid out before him that there are other rappers on that level, they really arent in a position to have that view changed I totally agree with you. I think he's of the mind where fast=good or is still under the 8 Mile spell.
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HatchetDown posted:I totally agree with you. I think he's of the mind where fast=good or is still under the 8 Mile spell. Even then, some Twista and Tonedeff take the prize if fast=good.
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Aggro posted:Even then, some Twista and Tonedeff take the prize if fast=good.  and Busta. How did I not immediately think of Busta.
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