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Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Definitely show up with beer though.

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DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
Budlite, especially. Europeans love Bud Lite.

edit: Might as well bring spice too, and get it out of the way before your soldiers do

zharmad
Feb 9, 2010

Yep gonna rock the ACU's. Now I need to get a haircut in the morning. Not really his sponsor or anything, just doing a favor to a guy who would have to drive 5 hours one way on his own dime to pick him up. Basically I just have to pick him up and get him to his billets.

mambo italiano
Apr 4, 2009
Pick him up in PT uniform. Also buy him a PT belt and as you hand it to him "welcome to America" in your best Texas accent.

Also give him a dip.

Rrail
Nov 26, 2003

by Y Kant Ozma Post
Wear a NASCAR hat and tell him that soldiers are allowed to wear a NASCAR or Wrestlemania hat optionally when you are stateside.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I would love to see a Brit walking around wearing a Wrestlemania cap with his uniform.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Godholio posted:

I would love to see a Brit walking around wearing a Wrestlemania cap with his uniform.

I could possibly make this happen later this summer.

Actually, I could make it happen tomorrow but I don't have a Wrestlemania cap easily accessible.

Talking to Brits from the RAF after they've gone to the BX and seen the plethora of firearms available for purchase is pretty hilarious...as is talking to them about the Eurofighter, JSF, the newfound alliance with the French, or pretty much any defense related topic.

"Right, I worked in the Eurofighter program office back in the late '90s...the plan was that it would be second in the world only to the Raptor, but it would only cost $35 million to the Raptor's $70 million, so we could still buy more of them...that's worked out pretty fuckin' well for the both of us."

"The JSF...I don't even know...I guess we're buying the -C model now, but it's not going to matter since the way our defence budget is going we're only going to be able to buy like three of them."

"I don't trust the loving frogs...they want in NATO, then they want out, then they want back in...they want in Europe, as long as they can control it. They're doing something in the kind of not really joke of a war we're "fighting" in Libya, but that's just because it's in their backyard. And we're going to be sharing a loving carrier with them. :suicide:"

Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

End of the fiscal year, bitch.
MP's got time to order pens for year year, hooah?


SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made



Lipstick Apathy
Do him and set him up with a decent bar near his location and have a few. Make us all look good :911:

Smoke Crack
Apr 6, 2009

Oh, sure, sure. I know you. You're gonna keep on saying I'm suave and sophisticated, and then when I start to believe it, then you're gonna say how pointy head I have, and how floppy arms I have, and how dull I am, I know you.
Hi POG Supply SGT in a FA unit here, anyone know how many magazines are usually in a basic load for a M14 EBR?

Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Cage Kicker posted:

Do him

"This is how we greet all our foreign military guests. By doctrine I also have to give you a reach-around."

Defleshed
Nov 18, 2004

F is for... FREEDOM
Also if your unit wants you to do this then you should be getting paid, period. Assuming you're a Reservist, submit that 1380 with a quickness man!

A Bakers Cousin
Dec 18, 2003

by vyelkin

Smoke Crack posted:

Hi POG Supply SGT in a FA unit here, anyone know how many magazines are usually in a basic load for a M14 EBR?

Pretty sure you'll be ok giving out 7.

zharmad
Feb 9, 2010

Defleshed posted:

Also if your unit wants you to do this then you should be getting paid, period. Assuming you're a Reservist, submit that 1380 with a quickness man!

Actually just doing it as a favor for another LT who would have to drive about 7 hours one way to pick him up, I live near the airport so it's no big deal for me. My readiness NCO is gonna pay me with an RMP though.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
Ahhaha you're an LT, would have figured you for a SPC with the question but ahhh hell.

zharmad
Feb 9, 2010

DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:

Ahhaha you're an LT, would have figured you for a SPC with the question but ahhh hell.

Just trying to avoid shaving the rocking 8 weeks of between drill beard growth.

VotGs
Dec 15, 2003

Don't mind me.
Background:

Husband is currently in the basic portion of OSUT, graduating next week into the AIT portion. 19K, yay. What they're telling us right now is that he might be going to Korea. I used to be a Korean linguist, so I'm all like "OMG OKAY. 2/3 YEARS IN KOREA, I MAKE YOU THE HAPPIEST TANKER ON THAT PENINSULA IF YOU TAKE ME WITH YOU."

However...

Husband's OSUT unit commander is saying that only his gaining unit can request command sponsorship. I thought that losing unit filled out the paperwork, forwarded it on to the gaining unit and then they handled it. That also seems to be what the 2ID Korea website says. Not sure if its different for IET soldiers PCSing for first duty station. I'm also hearing that CS is taking forever/hard to get, which means I want to start on it ASAP.

Anybody have any good advice/ideas/wtf should my first/next step be? I see him for his family weekend next weekend, and this will be our first chance to seriously talk about what's going to happen and what we need to do, so I'd like to come armed with as much info as possible.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
I'm not sure exactly, but if he's 19K that means Casey and I'm fairly certain they're not huge on CS as of yet, despite the whole rest of peninsula moving that way.

I'm sure that you read this milper message: http://www.2id.korea.army.mil/meta/files/commandsponsorship/procedures/korea_tour_tormalization_milper20090309.pdf

and more importantly the USFK regulation you will figure something out. I'm going to look though for a minute and see what I can find :
http://www.usfk.mil/usfk/Uploads/120/USFKReg614_1.pdf

long and short of it seems to be good luck though :(


edit: as of the date of that last regulation date (nov 2010) only like 500 people are authorised command sponsorship at Casey (Dongducheon)

DEVILDOGOOORAH fucked around with this message at 02:38 on May 13, 2011

VotGs
Dec 15, 2003

Don't mind me.
Yeah, most probably Casey. And since everyone and their mama seems to want to go to Korea (and then promptly hate it while they're there.....), positions are hard up.

Thanks for the links, reading them now...

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


So do WileyXs actually fit anybody? Nobody I know thinks they're loving expensive issued sunglasses fit.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

I'm writing an ARCOM for one of my E6s who is ETSing. What dates should I put under "period covering"?

E: Also, any suggestions for writing the citation? I can't find any retirement/ETS citation examples.

E2: Found these two, what do you think?

FOR EXCEPTIONALLY MERITORIOUS SERVICE AND PERFORMANCE WHILE SERVING AS THE/A ___________________. (RANK/NAME’S) DECISIVENESS (or LEADERSHIP), EXPERTISE, AND PROFESSIONALISM DIRECTLY ENHANCED THE COMBAT READINESS OF HIS/HER UNIT AND REFLECT GREAT CREDIT ON HIMSELF/HERSELF, THE “TEAM OF WINNERS” BRIGADE, AND THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

FOR EXCEPTIONALLY MERITORIOUS SERVICE AND PERFORMANCE WHILE SERVING IN A VARIETY OF POSITIONS CULMINATING AS THE _____________. HIS/HER LEADERSHIP, EXPERTISE, AND PROFESSIONALISM IS OF THE HIGHEST CALIBER AND DISTINCTION, AND THUS, IT IS WITH GREAT HONOR THAT WE RECOGNIZE THIS SOLDIER’S SERVICE TO HIS/HER COUNTRY OVER THE PAST _______YEARS. __________SELFLESS SACRIFICE REFLECTS GREAT CREDIT UPON HIMSELF/HERSELF, THE “TEAM OF WINNERS” BRIGADE, AND THE UNITED STATES ARMY.

EBB fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 13, 2011

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
You put the dates of his entire enlistment.

GreenMeat
Sep 2, 2002
slow mutant

DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:

You put the dates of his entire enlistment.

Sure about that? ETS isn't like retirement...I don't think they work the same. It should be just like an end of tour award.

I'd look it up but it's Friday afternoon.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
My ETS award was my entire dates of my time in service man. Doesn't make it right but the people that wrote it had been doing this a minute too.

edit: though my entire TOS was spent within one brigade so yeah IDK man I'm talking out my rear end gain trying to steer LTs wrong thats what I'm here for

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
Also please tell me "Team of Winners" is a fill-in-the blank sort of thing or is that for real y'alls motto

GreenMeat
Sep 2, 2002
slow mutant

DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:

My ETS award was my entire dates of my time in service man. Doesn't make it right but the people that wrote it had been doing this a minute too.

edit: though my entire TOS was spent within one brigade so yeah IDK man I'm talking out my rear end gain trying to steer LTs wrong thats what I'm here for

Yeah, that's a nice touch if you can get away with it. Meritorious service awards other than retirement are restricted to the period served under the recommending command, though.

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Yeah, it's just boilerplate I dug up and modified afterwards. I checked back with the unit, and we're going with entrance date to ETS date for the award, and I wrote bullet points based off of old NCOERs and my own observations since I wasn't deployed with him.

We shot for an MSM at first, but the BN XO said it wasn't going to happen. Based off of what I saw and comments from others, I can see why. My guy is a great soldier, but it would be very difficult to make a strong enough case. I would have shot for it anyways even though it would probably be downgraded, but I was flat out told to write it for an ARCOM. I know the form is going to get tweaked once I kick it up to the company commander, but I don't really see an ARCOM getting rejected for his ETS award.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
PROTIP: Only the approval authority for a MSM can downgrade it, not the BN XO. Put him in for an MSM, it gets downgraded then guess what, he gets an ARCOM, and hey wow same end result. Or maybe he gets an MSM for his years of service and not the same award that a PFC gets for winning a BN board once

Sorry obviously you see that, way to be spineless (its ok thats how it works man no offense)

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

:catstare:

NAPALM STICKS TO
Jun 22, 2005

yeah that's kinda lovely, I got an ARCOM for my ETS award and I'm a shitbag Specialist who did 4 years and got out

3rdEyeDeuteranopia
Sep 12, 2007

It can be hard for E7s and O3s to get MSMs as ETS awards. Heck a lot of O3s get AAMs.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
no doubt he'll walk out with an ARCOM, but you know he could look at the 638 and at least think "hey i got put in for a MSM but that dick head BN CDR who doesnt even know me and downgraded it :doom:" or think AB thinks he's a piece of poo poo for not even trying

3rdEyeDeuteranopia
Sep 12, 2007

Or they'll just have him redo the form and put arcom.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
which is hosed up but it's the game but when said SSG comes up to AB and is like "AN ARCOM???" AB's eyes can swell up with tears and say "I PUT IT IN AS AN ARCOM" and deflect the blame. Gotta play those games because everyone want's to be a douchebag and if the SSG gets an MSM for ETSing then what does an MSM for a CGO as a tour award who worked in the mayor cell or something count for

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

It's a lovely situation. I could put him in for an MSM, but it wouldn't even make it to the BC- my CO would kick it back for a re-write first. I'm a 1LT with no friends in staff and no staff time under my belt, meaning no options on the political side. What the gently caress am I supposed to do?

HCT, I know you're pissed, but that's how things are right now and I can't change it. Cut me some slack here, I'm not out to gently caress a good NCO out of an award.

DEVILDOGOOORAH
Aug 2, 2010

~Animu fan~
Nah man you're good, it's the system. For all I know the guy deserves a COA. The politics of awards just irritates me because at the end its officers trying to do some loving bullshit to protect the honor of their loving MSM/BSM for loving being the aide de camp of the assistant g2 or some bullshit aristocracy ringknocker bullshit. U cool wit me AB come 2 my thread

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Crushed, my nigga. :cheers:

GreenMeat
Sep 2, 2002
slow mutant

DEVILDOGOOORAH posted:

no doubt he'll walk out with an ARCOM, but you know he could look at the 638 and at least think "hey i got put in for a MSM but that dick head BN CDR who doesnt even know me and downgraded it :doom:" or think AB thinks he's a piece of poo poo for not even trying

This is the way to do it. If the MSM gets downgraded to an ARCOM at least the guy's got the 638 and narrative for an MSM in his records, which shows that his firstline thought he deserved it. There's no loving reason to rewrite. If leadership at each echelon on the way up doesn't like it, they just recommend downgrade and pencil in some comments. The awarding authority gets the final say, not mid-level management. It's in the regulation; why don't people get it?

Nillerz
Jun 24, 2008

Nillerz posted:

Why don't I eat veggies? I don't look at them as *food*, in the classical sense.
AM I POSTING ABOUT HOW WOMEN ARE STUPID, WEAK AND WORTHLESS? REMIND ME THAT I AM AN INFANTILE MANCHILD WHO REFUSES TO EAT VEGETABLES
Any good guides for ways to paint the M249?

Smoke Crack
Apr 6, 2009

Oh, sure, sure. I know you. You're gonna keep on saying I'm suave and sophisticated, and then when I start to believe it, then you're gonna say how pointy head I have, and how floppy arms I have, and how dull I am, I know you.
I thought only m4/16 was authorized for painting.

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thetechnoloser
Feb 11, 2003

Say hello to post-apocalyptic fun!
Grimey Drawer
Regarding periods of award.

Retirement awards cover the last 10 years back from the eff date of retirement.

ETS goes back to date arrived under the recommending command.

PCS goes back to date arrived under the recommending command.


Our brigade and post won't do em any other way than that, which is in fact IAW regulation.

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