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Russian Bear posted:Is that guy in the video driving a Caterham or a Lotus 7? That looks fun as hell, I wish they did something like this here. It's a Westfield, says so at the end. http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/
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echomadman posted:new superretards vid  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2YAwZP_35A
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I recenty became the owner of a DRZ400s, and while its a neat little bike, I only got it so I could convert it to a SM. I put a couple ads up on Thumpertalk and SMJ hoping to trade my dirt wheels/suspension/brake bits for the SM parts. I was wondering if that was a reasonable trade, and if not, what could I reasonably get for those parts?
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Nyyen posted:I recenty became the owner of a DRZ400s, and while its a neat little bike, I only got it so I could convert it to a SM. I put a couple ads up on Thumpertalk and SMJ hoping to trade my dirt wheels/suspension/brake bits for the SM parts. It's not really a reasonable trade. The dirt wheels are worth about 500, and the SM wheels are worth about 800-1k. If you want to do it on the cheap, I'd recommend an EBC rotor setup with a 320mm rotor using the stock caliper with an adapter plate on the stock DRZ400S forks, and then you could either lace a 17in rim to the stock hubs, or run a stock SM front wheel. Other options are using a KTM rear and making an axle for the front (details on that on thumpertalk). Don't have time to write up all of the swap possibilities right now but if you want more info to go on, post up.
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Ahh thanks, I had that feeling. Actually, I was wondering how may differences there are between the sm and the s. Will I need to completely replace the forks, or is it only the matter of changing out the springs or what not? Also, how does the ktm replacement work? Is it just the rims, and wouldn't KTM parts be far more expensive than the same DRZ parts? Sorry about all the questions but all I know about SM's is that I have a burning desire to own one and zero cash.
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There's really no need to swap suspensions. The S forks actually have more travel though they're a bit softer stock which is easily remedied. Some guys actually prefer the S forks for sumo setups but YMMV.
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Symphoric posted:There's really no need to swap suspensions. The S forks actually have more travel though they're a bit softer stock which is easily remedied. Some guys actually prefer the S forks for sumo setups but YMMV. Ah thanks for that. I was hoping to avoid doing a complete swap. So what would it take to stiffen it up on the cheap. Also, I haven't really grasped what is involved with the brake/speedo changes. Is it really as simple as getting a new set of rotors and an adapter, or do I need to completely change out he rotors, calipers, and everything else? Nyyen fucked around with this message at 03:04 on May 15, 2011 |
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May 15, 2011 03:00
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I'm starting to seriously consider picking up a DRZ, just need to sell my current bike first. What are they going to be like for someone 6'5" and about 220lbs?
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Nyyen posted:Ah thanks for that. I was hoping to avoid doing a complete swap. So what would it take to stiffen it up on the cheap. Also, I haven't really grasped what is involved with the brake/speedo changes. Is it really as simple as getting a new set of rotors and an adapter, or do I need to completely change out he rotors, calipers, and everything else? If you pick up some SM wheels the stock speedo will work, and usually you can get them with rotors included. You should also be able to use the stock caliper with a caliper relocater bracket. They sell these on Motostrano as well as other places (you can also get rotors there if you need one). With the oversized rotor the stock S caliper is plenty good enough. If you end up going with aftermarket wheels or a KTM wheel swap you'll need to get a Trailtech Vapor or something for the speedo. The rear KTM wheel bolts right on but the front takes a bit of work, I think you need a custom axle and possibly spacers to get them on but I'm not really sure. Seemed like too much work/money to me so I never looked much into it. For the back brakes most people just stick with the stock S size rotor and not worry about the caliper at all there. As for the suspension, you could go with some stiffer springs if you feel the need. Personally I just put some thicker fork oil in and messed with the adjustments and found it worked well enough for me with the stock springs. It's the kind of thing you need to ride around on a bit and figure out what's best for you.
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Aargh posted:I'm starting to seriously consider picking up a DRZ, just need to sell my current bike first. What are they going to be like for someone 6'5" and about 220lbs?
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Endless Mike posted:They'll be fine. You might want to get some taller bars, but other than that, I don't think you'll have an issue. With the banana seat, you'll have plenty of room to side back and forth to get comfortable, and I'm heavier, so that's not an issue. Fine then, was half looking for an excuse but I guess it's time for a new bike.
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May 15, 2011 12:39
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Aargh posted:I'm starting to seriously consider picking up a DRZ, just need to sell my current bike first. What are they going to be like for someone 6'5" and about 220lbs? I can only speak to the height part, but I'm 6'5" 190 and everything was reasonably placed for me stock.
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Just have to sit farther back to wheelie. Upside is sitting forward you can launch a wheelie from a dead stop like a badass.
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Nyyen posted:Ahh thanks, I had that feeling. Actually, I was wondering how may differences there are between the sm and the s. Will I need to completely replace the forks, or is it only the matter of changing out the springs or what not? Also, how does the ktm replacement work? Is it just the rims, and wouldn't KTM parts be far more expensive than the same DRZ parts? Ok, so the spacing on the forks/swingarms is the same for both the right side up (S) and the upside down (SM) forks. So you can swap wheel sets between S and SM models without a problem. However, the rotors are different on the SM model vs. the S model, front and rear. So are the swingarms and axle adjusters. So you can swap SM wheels over to your S but you'll need to use S model rotors, and the S model axles and forks/swingarm, or do the full SM conversion and use SM upside down forks, S model swingarm, S model axles/axles adjusters. The solution to the wimpy S model front brake rotor is to toss an EBC 320mm rotor, it comes with an adapter so the stock caliper gets spaced out. It's around $150 from speedaddictcycles.com with discount, IIRC. The KTM stuff is a direct bolt on on the rear as long as you have the same axle size. The front requires new spacers or spacers and sleeves if you get the right size wheels. I found a set of Duke 2 wheels for $500 with rotors and sprockets, so it made sense. I had an axle made for around $80 (although it was the cause of no end of irritation getting it made). (I realize some of this is now redundant but I wrote it last night and forgot to submit it) Symphoric posted:If you pick up some SM wheels the stock speedo will work, and usually you can get them with rotors included. You should also be able to use the stock caliper with a caliper relocater bracket. They sell these on Motostrano as well as other places (you can also get rotors there if you need one). With the oversized rotor the stock S caliper is plenty good enough. You'll need a the correct size speedo drive to get the speedo to read right, IIRC.
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Z3n posted:The solution to the wimpy S model front brake rotor is to toss an EBC 320mm rotor, it comes with an adapter so the stock caliper gets spaced out. It's around $150 from speedaddictcycles.com with discount, IIRC. My current rotor (310mm) should probably be replaced. Z3n posted:You'll need a the correct size speedo drive to get the speedo to read right, IIRC. vvvv Thanks  vvvvv
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Symphoric posted:You wouldn't happen to have a link to this would you? I searched the website but got about 1000 hits on EBC rotors and none seem to have any details on what wheels they fit. But maybe I'm just dumb. EBC part number: SM6017C Contact speed addict cycles through http://www.speedaddictcycles.com/c=Cct2wZR2TgtyHoaK3s3nOcTnU/contact_us.cgis to order...it's not listed on his website at the moment. Mention you've been recommended by Conan for the discount You can see the EBC stuff here: http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Assets/2011_USA_MC_Cat.pdf Page 336/Suzuki/DRZ400 (they all run the same rotor bolt spacing/axle setup, unless you have an SM model, which uses different fork legs.
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Symphoric and Z3n posted:A bunch of useful info. Ahh that pretty much covered it. Thanks.
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Successfully resealed the rocker cover on my KTM LC4 engine. That bad boy was seeping oil like a motherfucker before, but a liberal dose of Hondabond 4 and 72 hours fixed that up. When I cracked open the rocker cover there was basically no sealant present, which is pretty scary if it came that way from the factory.
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So I'm wanting to get into Supermoto's (Christoff's fault). This will be my first bike, so I'm looking for low maint, dependable, solid, etc. A friend's cousin is selling a 2006 DR650 Street and Trail (S? SE?), Yellow, with 6000 miles on it for $3000. I'm wondering what the average consesus is if it's worthwhile to look into. For starters, I hate yellow and would want to change the panels and all that to black - how much am I looking at there? Also, I want a supermoto. Christoff's got me wanting a DRZ400sm bad. With that in mind, what am I looking at to make this thing a sumo? Is it even worth looking at or should I just keep on the search for a 400? (I live in the loving boonies and there's nothing even on craigslist remotely close.) I live 2 miles from work and want the bike mainly for the daily commute which is what I'll mostly use it for. I'll use it to cruise around town but probably not any major road trips. I like to play in the dirt with my jeep sometimes on my way to / from work, there are plenty of mild trails around here for joyriding. I'm 5'8", 30" inseam, 165lbs. Sorry I haven't gotten all the info, it's a pretty casual exchange right now with my friend so nothing serious, I told him I might check it out. Just wanting your opinions. edit: more info. edit2: But then again looking more at craigslist I did find this listing http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/mcy/2378498158.html much higher mileage but lower price. Fiendish Dr. Wu fucked around with this message at 05:51 on May 16, 2011 |
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Christoff is selling his 690SM right? Why not buy that? It's not QUITE the worst beginner bike ever 
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needknees posted:Christoff is selling his 690SM right? Why not buy that? It's not QUITE the worst beginner bike ever He's actually on the other side of the country or I would.
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im scoring some bargain stuff for the DRZ. OEM supermoto wheels with less than 500 miles, $600 off ebay. ohlins shock for $250. Thought i'd spread jealousy throughout the realm. Need to sort out the forks, also did the opposite of most and put a quieter exhaust on the DRZ. previously an E full system, i put on a new S full system i got for free, and i love the stealth of it I wonder how it would go with a 470 motor and the S exhaust
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:So I'm wanting to get into Supermoto's (Christoff's fault). This will be my first bike, so I'm looking for low maint, dependable, solid, etc. You live in a sad, sad land. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/search/mcy?query=supermoto&srchType=A
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:So I'm wanting to get into Supermoto's (Christoff's fault). This will be my first bike, so I'm looking for low maint, dependable, solid, etc. God, there really is nothing available in your area. I wouldn't recommend Sumoing a DR650. Air cooled single, heavier, suspension isn't as modern. However, some people have done it. Figure you're going to spend at least 1k on a supermoto conversion on top of the purchase price of the bike though. I wouldn't recommend commuting a 2 mile ride on any motorcycle, though...not enough time for the bike to get up to temp and run properly before you're at work. If your commute is that short, and you want to do some offroad playing around, I'd probably look for a smaller, lighter bike. KLX300 or similar such option. Supermotos are great but generally more street oriented and it sounds like you're more offroad oriented. Yautja posted:im scoring some bargain stuff for the DRZ. That is drat cheap. That ohlins for $250 is especially crazy. Stealth exhausts for life. In my experience, when you bore out the bikes and keep the S/E model exhausts on them, they tend to get huge midrange but run out of steam at the top end like crazy.
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Zool posted:You live in a sad, sad land. I know  And DC is 2 hours north of me.  Z3n posted:God, there really is nothing available in your area. I wouldn't recommend Sumoing a DR650. Air cooled single, heavier, suspension isn't as modern. However, some people have done it. Figure you're going to spend at least 1k on a supermoto conversion on top of the purchase price of the bike though. I'd say I'm actually more street oriented, I guess my op made it sound more offroad. I'm drawn to sumo's because from what I understand, just swap out the tires and have fun. As far as the 2 mile commute, I suppose I really could take the scenic route by the beach on the way home and add 4+ miles (which I probably would anyways).
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:I'd say I'm actually more street oriented, I guess my op made it sound more offroad. I'm drawn to sumo's because from what I understand, just swap out the tires and have fun. They work fine on mild offroading with just the street tires on there. No need to swap tires. As to the commute distance, that's your call...short trips are hard on bikes though, they see their most wear while coming up to temp and the oil never has the chance to get properly hot and burn off condensation and water that builds in the oil.
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2 mile commute i'd use one of these: Z3n, agreed on the 470 there. We all mostly use low end & mid range anyway, i rarely top it out. the 470 would give me the most useful power without spending heaps on fcr41, full system exhaust..
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DRZs pop up around DC on occasion. The bike market here is mostly affluent lawyers and IT professionals, so they're not as common as other things. I've only ever seen one or two supermotos on the road besides mine.
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What world do you live in where a 470 kit is cheaper than an FCR?
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I mean, for an FCR41 I already have an fcr39 on my E model, going to a 41 would be silly without a full system exhaust since the 39 gives superior low to mid range power. money would be better put into the 470.
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Z3n posted:They work fine on mild offroading with just the street tires on there. No need to swap tires. As to the commute distance, that's your call...short trips are hard on bikes though, they see their most wear while coming up to temp and the oil never has the chance to get properly hot and burn off condensation and water that builds in the oil. This is often how my DRZ gets treated, ~6 minute drive to work. I do usually try to warm the bike up for at least 5 minutes. Could this be causing my issues with my DRZ intermittently not wanting to start?
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cmorrow001 posted:This is often how my DRZ gets treated, ~6 minute drive to work. I do usually try to warm the bike up for at least 5 minutes. Could this be causing my issues with my DRZ intermittently not wanting to start? Do you put it on a trickle charger? A bunch of starting, idling, and then a short ride could definitely cause battery issues. Yautja posted:I mean, for an FCR41 Ahh, right. Or you could just buy a KTM 690 SMC 
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mate i would love a 690. Unfortunately i've spent way too much dollars in bikes over the years, namely, multiple KTM 950 Adventures & Super enduro and need to smarten up and buy property or something. Or at least a round the world motorcycle trip At the moment ive got less than $2500 invested in the DRZ, even after a corbin seat, 28L tank, motard wheels, ohlins shock.
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Very nice. I was about $3500 into my DRZ when it was all said and done. Did the motomaster caliper work out for you?
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i didnt have that for long, it went with the last KTM 950. wish i had of kept that for this DRZ!
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On the topic of short-commutes: this is the reason I am fixing up my BSA Bantam. I'm commuting just a few miles every day and it's murder on the oil. I'm currently changing the oil at half the recommended interval and still its coming out black as the interior of beelzebubs bum. The Bantam, while not awesome-supermoto-commuter-fun, is a 2t and much more amenable to short journeys.
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Aargh posted:I'm starting to seriously consider picking up a DRZ, just need to sell my current bike first. What are they going to be like for someone 6'5" and about 220lbs? You can come ride mine if you are ever in Newcastle.
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Dubs posted:You can come ride mine if you are ever in Newcastle. Cheers, think I might just hunt out a few test rides at dealers maybe this weekend then wait for something to pop up on eBay / bikesales / is there anything else? Also what's considered high / excessively high mileage on DRZ's, there's been a few show up online with 40-50000km's (30 thou miles). Would they be any good? Or really at the end of their lives? eg. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-MOTARD-DRZ-400-SM-5-500-/130521740987?pt=AU_Motorcycles&hash=item1e63b3b6bb
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Aargh posted:Cheers, think I might just hunt out a few test rides at dealers maybe this weekend then wait for something to pop up on eBay / bikesales / is there anything else? Huh, that's a 470 bike. I'd wonder who's built it, modded bikes are only worth it if they're reputable and you have some kind of backup on the engine or are getting it cheap enough to pay for a replacement engine for when it pops. High mileage on well cared for, stock DRZs isn't a problem, but on built bikes it's real hit or miss.
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